a poem for dzhokhar

April 21, 2013

warning: hateful commenters trying to hack the blog by mimicking regular benevloent users’ names. please proceed with caution and respect.

given the amount of controversy surrounding this blog, i wrote about the act of writing of the poem HERE if you’d like to read it.

you don’t know how it felt to be in the womb but it must have been at least a little warmer than this.

you don’t know how intimately they’re recording your every move on closed-circuit cameras until you see your face reflected back at you through through the pulp.

you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers.

you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.

you don’t know how many times you can say you’re coming until they just stop believing you.

you don’t know how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is until they hold your head under the water.

you don’t know how many vietnamese soft rolls to order.

you don’t know how convinced your parents were that having children would be, absolutely, without question, the correct thing to do.

you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the bottom of the boat.

you don’t know how to get away from your fucking parents.

you don’t know how it’s possible to feel total compassion in one moment and total disconnection in the next moment.

you don’t know how things could change so incredibly fast.

you don’t know how to make something, but the instructions are on the internet.

you don’t know how to make sense of this massive parade.

you don’t know how to believe anyone anymore.

you don’t know how to tell the girl in the chair next to you that you’ve been peeking at her dissertation draft and there’s a grammatical typo in the actual file name.

you don’t know how to explain yourself.

you don’t want two percent but it’s all they have.

you don’t know how claustrophobic your house is until you can’t leave it.

you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown.

you don’t know where your friends went.

you don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot anyway.

you don’t know how your life managed to move twenty six miles forward and twenty eight miles back.

you don’t know how to pay your debts.

you don’t know how to separate from this partnership to escape and finally breathe.

you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway.

you don’t know how to measure the value of the twenty dollar bill clutched in your hurting hand.

you don’t know how you walked into this trap so obliviously.

you don’t know how to adjust the rearview mirror.

you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.

you don’t know how to drive this car.

you don’t know the way to new york.

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http://www.facebook.com/hallospacegirl5 Denise Bickford

this is what I have been waiting to read about this situation all week. thank you. thank you.
- http://www.thisisadnauseam.com/ Jasmine
  
  Same here.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  there has to be more than the news, the facts. making art is how I deal.
  
  connect the dots
  
  we all are.
  - AmandaPalmerwatcher
    
    PUKE
    you hypocrite
fortunata

beautiful. are you going to make this a song?
http://twitter.com/GalInTheGreyHat CMPowers

Wow, just wow. Thank you.
Dchase

My heart breaks for him, there is no way to commit such an act of violence without becoming a victim of it yourself.
My heart breaks for the hate I have seen all over the internet this last week, and the ignorance that goes with one group of people thinking they’re righteous and some how better.
Hate is hate.
Hate turns into fear, fear into death, and back again.

If only is now the story of his life.
- Jeremy
  
  Amen
- Vyvyan
  
  I cannot “like” this enough. You’ve perfectly expressed what I’ve been feeling since this entire business began. I wish I could print this out and put it through every letterbox on the planet.
  - http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
    
    thank you. xx
- The Green Devil
  
  Bullshit. He’s no victim. Not one of the hundreds if not thousands of people whose lives he devastated if not outright destroyed ever did anything to him. A victim has no choice- he had choices and he chose to commit horrifying acts of evil.
  - dchase
    
    My life has been spent picking up the pieces of what evil leaves behind, specifially the children. I choose not to hate, because if I give in to hate I am no different. Part of that choice is recognizing the humanity of everyone. Is does not mean I don’t believe that this man deserves justice. It just means I recognize that justice and vengeance are two different things. Dzhokhar is now defined by his choice. That is sad to me, it is sad when anyone succumbs to hate.
    - The Green Devil
      
      I admire you for working with abused children and recognize the tremendous strength it requires. Myself, I hate child abusers, mainly because I dated a woman who had been repeatedly abused over the years by her father. Her body bore the scars of many suicide attempts made in an effort to escape the pain of what she had endured and there were nights she would wake up screaming from nightmares too horrible to comprehend. I do not feel it lessens me or my humanity to hate people who inflict such pain on innocent people. They deserve to be loathed and reviled and hated for their actions.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
        
        as someone who endured abuse as a child, i disagree that abusers deserve to be loathed and reviled and hated. i did my share of loathing etc. but came to the realization that i was only perpetuating the abuse by doing that. i was hurting myself for having been hurt. i came to realize my perpetrators only did what they did because they were suffering. that doesn’t mean that what they did was ok. not by a long shot, but hating them only separates them from any hope of change. it keeps the cycle going. and breaking the cycle became more important to me than my rage. i respect your right to have a different perspective on it than i do. i just wanted to share mine with you.
      - http://twitter.com/Anamorphotic Anamorphosis
        
        I totally agree with that. Loathing may be an initial reaction. It may be a reaction that lasts for years. But eventually loathing just eats up the person who loathes. I spent my childhood being tortured. I still carry burn marks on my skin from my abusers and that is the least of it. As an adult, I spent a decade and a heap of money overcoming that past. I now work with both abusers and trauma victims as a mental health clinician. And, as Bessel Van Der Kolk, the most cutting edge clinician of trauma research in our time, says, “Trauma is to mental illness and psychiatry as the germ theory is to medicine.” I forgave my abusers, in my own fashion, and was able to heal. My sister could not and she went on to torture me and to nearly destroy herself in the process. She attempted to kill my dog, she killed the family cat, she tried to kill me, she almost killed herself. I feel badly for her but I don’t hate her. She is still suffering even now. My current life is a good one. It is more than that. It is amazing and full of friends and love. I wish she could heal and have a good life as well, but because she cannot we are strangers to each other. Because of what she did to her body she will likely die in her 50’s if she is very lucky. I do not spend my spleen on those who abused the both of us before she turned it on me. They are surely miserable and I am not. And if they were not miserable, they would not feel afraid to apologize to me. However, I have far more important things to do than to wait for their apology. And because I went through the ring of fire, such as it is – I can actually help people who want healing to make it to the other side. So, in that way, my childhood curse is now my gift to others.
      - kmwilliams
        
        But does the hate help? You or anyone?
      - The Green Devil
        
        Why does an action have to help? But to answer, yes it does help. It tells me that I am a feeling human who is still capable of feeling outrage and capable of hating evil, rather than being an apologist for evil persons or evil acts.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        It’s a false dichotomy. One can feel outrage at evil and also reject hatred. Anger is an absolutely appropriate response. I feel it too. But I also try to transform it into something that *will* help–or at least will NOT cause any more harm. I have had plenty of reasons in my life to hate–rapists, child molesters, racists, violent criminals, bullies–but I learned that hatred only lets them live on in me, continuing to do violence to my spirit.
        
        You call Amanda’s poem “bullshit” and act as if you know THE truth, THE only right response to this. You are entitled to your feelings, your response. But so are those of us who seek a more compassionate one.
      - The Green Devil
        
        Wow, someone is apparently pro-child molester, based upon the “down” vote. Classy.
      - Félix Marqués
        
        If you see everything as “us vs. them”, you’ll be a step further from seeing things as they are.
        
        I know it’s a very useful lens to employ and all, but the world simply is much more complicated.
      - The Green Devil
        
        There’s no grey area when it comes to what that twisted fuck did. If you have a problem seeing that as evil and came somehow justify it, I pity you for your lack of humanity. There is no justification for what was done. None. Zero.
      - EvilPenguin
        
        “us vs. them” is the most important lens to see things through. “us vs. them” is the most basic level of viewing things in survival. The questions are what you decide the criteria is to be “us” and how many levels of “us” there are, as well as what you do to “them”.
        
        The smallest split between “us vs. them” should be between people that threaten me and mine and people that don’t. The largest split between “us vs. them” should be who will I share my deepest most intimate parts with and who will I not.
        
        If you are part of the them that threaten me and mine, then I should be able to employ force, fear, and violence to protect myself and those I am responsible for.
        If you are part of the them that I will not share my deepest most intimate parts with, htne I should simply not share those aprts with you.
        How we react to “them”, depending on who the “them” are is what is important.
        Dzhokhar has firmly chosen to be part of the “them” that not only threatens me and mine, but has killed and maimed the “us”.
  - http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
    
    It’s Harris and Klebold all over again. he left that backpack right at the feet of little Martin. Martin won’t know anything anymore. I don’t seek revenge, just justice.
  - wilder
    
    In the time before he went beyond saying “beoiwefwe poopie daddy” he was innocent. Somebody found him when he was old enough to learn and taught him how to hate and kill
  - wilder125
    
    Somebody taught him at an innocent age. He didn’t just suddenly wake up one morning and design an amateur explosive that military has seen in a couple of countries outside the U.S. in the past.
    
    So, one day he was innocent. One age he was innocent. One innocent year he was saying “poopie, mommy. poopie”
  - Blurry
    
    Have you ever been so driven by madness or anger that you decided to bomb a marathon?
    Didn’t think so.
    He is definitely a victim in his own right.
- http://www.facebook.com/sidmarcoseh Sid Marcos
  
  This is so, SO spot on that I have to reply.
  
  It seems to me that many people aren’t emotionally equipped to understand such a potent statement. I think, oftentimes you must have experienced that darkness in yourself and have ‘come back’ to be able to relate to other people in the same situation.
  
  No, he’s not THE victim but he is nonetheless A victim of hate – and that’s my heart goes out to him too. If you can even try to understand him rather than react with hatred or wanting to see him suffer in return then you end the cycle – and as cliche as it is – genuinely make the world a better place.
  - The Green Devil
    
    Hatred is a conscious choice, especially when one chooses to manifest itself and hurt others. Hate is not some controlling force. Hate has no free will. It is a willful act that one does not have to commit. Everyone talks about this kid like he’s a fucking simpleton incapable of distinguishing right from wrong, rather than a 19 year old adult who’s an aspiring med student and was in college.
    - http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
      
      The first thing one does when anger or hatred show up is justify them.
      
      “This anger is righteous, because otherwise it wouldn’t have sprouted”.
      “This hatred is righteous, because it’s the natural consequence of this horrible event”.
      
      We pre-approve hatred, allow it to dictate us, and then erase that shameful, covert approval. We send the invader forces packs of new, shining armour and then forget the present. We are then stunned by them and think that, if we give them reign for a short while, they will give it back to us.
      
      But hatred and ire are not emotions that appear on command, and they are as hard to fight back as fear, or love, or many others. The difference being that you don’t betray yourself as much when feeling those other emotions.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Philip/591615305 Michael Philip
        
        Opposition to hatred is a pernicious idea. It’s actually rooted in hatred itself: Hatred of your own well-being. If you despise yourself and your own well-being, then it logically follows that you would promote a view that “you become what you hate by hating it.” Love of your enemies, love of the petty and the despicable, is the exact opposite of self-preservation.
      - http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
        
        Please, do explain to me why I am “loving my enemies”, or “loving the petty and despicable”, and all the other intrincacies of my soul that your clever intellect so instantly captured upon reading my post.
        
        You realize I can not-hate someone *without* loving them instead, right? Why am I supposed to feel one *or* the other? Are you so absurdly passionate in your everyday life? Must we all live in one of those two extremes?
        
        Oh, and do please write me a full paper on how much I “hate my own well-being” because you just nailed me to the core and I am shaken and eager to understand myself better. I would have probably felt lost for the rest of my life weren’t for your acute observations on the inner workings of my ideology.
        
        All I said is that excusing hatred is losing self-control. I value my self control. I also value my ability to not turn into a bloodthirsty vengeance-seeker when something goes awfully wrong. I like being actually able to stand back and think. I wouold say that is much more beneficial to my survival and prosperity.
    - http://twitter.com/arfisk Tony Fisk
      
      ‘Hatred is a conscious decison’? Au contraire. Hatred, or any expression of strong emotion, may well be an addictive behaviour. http://www.davidbrin.com/addiction.html
  - http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
    
    I could never begin to understand a human who leaves a lethal bomb at the feet of a child, knowing in seconds that child will be dead. The pain of losing your child is worse than dying yourself.. Now Martin’s parents are left with a pain that will never go away. How do you understand that?
- http://revsean.com/ revsparker
  
  “if only is now the story of his life.” powerful words and probably the most powerful punishment. The most recent word is that he had a gunshot “entrance wound in his mouth, exiting through the throat and back of the neck.” He tried to die and now will, one way or another, live with the consequences of his actions. Will it bring back the dead? Of course not, it never does. As for me, I remember being 19. I remember being the parent of a very angry 19-yr-old man. I remember fearing that in a moment of rage he would do something and I would be *that* parent. I just can’t bring myself to wish for any more suffering.
  - dchase
    
    Maybe it is age that makes me feel sad for him. He is more than young enough to be my child. He is someones’ child. There was a time when he was held in their arms and all the hope in the world shone in their eyes. The suffering of the victims is overwhelming. He will suffer the comsequences one way or another. Enough is enough, hate only increases the suffering. Hate is evil winning.
    Evil winning ensures it will happen again
    - EvilPenguin
      
      Hate can be good. Hate can be helpful. It is all about what you hate.
      Should you hate the child molester? Debatable.
      Should you hate what he did? Without any qualms about doing so.
      You can hate an action, you can hate a behavior, you can hate many things. I believe that what a person hate that person should try to destroy. When a person tries to destroy what they hate they should have no guilt over trying to do so.
      The key though, is to be sparing about what you hate, while being zealous in that hatred.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=845030373 Toni Palmer
  
  He made this choice. This was no accident, or brief moment of youthful misstep. It was planned out. My heart breaks for the victims. He chose his consequences.
  - dchase
    
    I know that, maybe it is the state of the world, how polarized my country has become, how after the pessimism and seeming hopelessness of the nineteen-eighties there was a brief spirit of optimism in the world which has since been lost. I have spent most of my life actively involved in trying to make the world a better place for the generations that will follow and what I see instead is increasing violence, personal attacks amongst strangers just for having different perspectives, a wild passionate societal embrace of hate and otherness that makes me think my children will never have a better world, a hopeful future. I don’t want to offer this man sympathy, I just don’t want to succumb to hate.
- Blurry
  
  Go you.
  We mourn for everyone. Even the lost souls who need the most mercy.
  And we especially mourn for the ones who lost their lives.
  It’s horrible when innocent people are killed senselessly.
- WarmMetaphysics
  
  Do you feel sorry for rapists, too? They commit horrible acts of violence. Are they victims as well? I don’t hate him, but I definitely have no sympathy for him or for people that choose to hurt and kill others. He is NOT a victim. Putting him in the same category as the people that had their lives ruined is sick. If you had to pick up the pieces of a little boy or watch a family member’s legs be blown off, then I seriously doubt (and hope) you would not pity the poor murderer. Violence isn’t pretty, and romanticizing it is disgusting.
  - Kirsten Petersen
    
    I have not seen anyone ‘romanticize’ violence in these comments. It seems like everyone is hung up on semantics.
http://twitter.com/DietDeity Brenda Oelbaum

I don’t know how to feel about this boy…he could be my son, I’m sure he didn’t know what the what would happen if that bomb blew up, I don’t think he even knew that it would. I don’t know either, and that makes me sad.
- DiscoZombies
  
  He placed a bomb at the feet of women and children, a bomb. You’re saying he was too stupid to know that bombs explode? I’m so sick of everyone sympathizing with him, he didn’t wreck his dad’s car or break a window, he killed innocent people on purpose. I’m not saying I hate him, or that I even know what he was thinking, but you can’t say he didn’t know the bomb would go off, that’s like saying if you pointed a gun at a person and pulled the trigger you didn’t know you’d shoot them. We can’t forget his rights, but we can’t forget theirs either the real victims, the 4 people that no longer have any rights because he chose to take them away. I can’t feel sorry for him, and I never will.
  - http://twitter.com/DietDeity Brenda Oelbaum
    
    What I’m saying is there is no way he had seen the bombs they were making blow up in real life..like his brother might have while in Russia…when you see something like that in videos it’s not the same…it’s like watching a film. You don’t really understand the physicality of the events. I was in a war zone years ago and we where taken by soldiers to see some charred Syrian Soldiers…don’t ask it was a completely surreal experience…it was like watching a horror film…you could see their bones through they gloves and it was not until the wind changed and I could smell burned hair and flesh that it became real to me. It is very possible for him to have no idea what he was doing. That doesn’t make him innocent, and it doesn’t make him stupid either…it just makes the situation harder to deal with from any stand point…and once again very sad.
http://twitter.com/imjeskidding Jes

I love this.
I’m 18. He’s a year older than I am. I think it was so strange how the media was interviewing his friends and acquaintances. They all said basically the same thing, that he was nice and friendly and this is totally unexpected.
Then I sat there and kind of realized that’s the scary part. He was human and pretty ‘normal’.
Some people are saying we should kill him or hate him. I hate the act he committed. I hate the pain he caused. I don’t think I could ever hate him though, or wish death on him.
Or anyone else like him.
I was just talking about your bully blog last night actually. When I was about 12 or so I was on the beach down the street from me when the schools most renowned bully and all of his friends showed up. They pushed me around and called me a ‘fat faggot’ over and over again and broke my glasses and left me there.
Last year we were 17 and he threatened to blow up the school and he’s now on house arrest. His futures permanently scarred. No one likes him. And he has no social life.
I was a victim of his and yet I feel bad for him.
Clearly he has problems.
We all have our own problems.
I wish people would remember that.
And I wish people would remember how fear is such a more intense feeling than happiness. It’s more controlling. It’s more physically shaking and paralyzing and controlling than a lot of our other emotions.
I’m glad they didn’t kill him.
I hope he grieves.
And he fixes the damage he’s inflicted somehow. By jailtime or something. I don’t know.
But I also hope he finds himself again. And I hope he escapes whatever hell that’s been shaking him.
http://twitter.com/imjeskidding Jes

I love this.
I’m 18. He’s a year older than I am. I think it was so strange how the media was interviewing his friends and acquaintances. They all said basically the same thing, that he was nice and friendly and this is totally unexpected.
Then I sat there and kind of realized that’s the scary part. He was human and pretty ‘normal’.
Some people are saying we should kill him or hate him. I hate the act he committed. I hate the pain he caused. I don’t think I could ever hate him though, or wish death on him.
Or anyone else like him.
I was just talking about your bully blog last night actually. When I was about 12 or so I was on the beach down the street from me when the schools most renowned bully and all of his friends showed up. They pushed me around and called me a ‘fat faggot’ over and over again and broke my glasses and left me there.
Last year we were 17 and he threatened to blow up the school and he’s now on house arrest. His futures permanently scarred. No one likes him. And he has no social life.
I was a victim of his and yet I feel bad for him.
Clearly he has problems.
We all have our own problems.
I wish people would remember that.
And I wish people would remember how fear is such a more intense feeling than happiness. It’s more controlling. It’s more physically shaking and paralyzing and controlling than a lot of our other emotions.
I’m glad they didn’t kill him.
I hope he grieves.
And he fixes the damage he’s inflicted somehow. By jailtime or something. I don’t know.
But I also hope he finds himself again. And I hope he escapes whatever hell that’s been shaking him.
- Scott
  
  I agree with you 100% I know how the minds of people like him work. I’m like him.One minute you’re a perfectly normal person with a nice attitude, the next you’re thinking things and you have no idea how they came into your head. As time goes by those thoughts return over and over again. Solutions, ideas, fears, pains… It takes a strong mind to not let them get to you and I would never ask anyone to take my mental state upon themselves. I don’t wish him pain. I don’t hate him. I pity him because I know where’s he’s been. I wish him the best of luck in whatever comes next and hope that he has the chance to reflect upon what’s happened.
  - http://twitter.com/1duffer Joel Spealman
    
    You are not like him. This is not something he did “one minute” without thinking. Do you think you could live in peace if you murdered someone? You would not care about killing an 8 year-old boy?
    
    And this was planned for months. At any time he could have said “NO!” Instead he had HATE in his heart for Americans, only because we are Americans and not Muslims. He had a thousand times to reflect on what he was doing and he chose to kill innocent people. He chose to kill every day he was training for this attack. Good luck, I hope your life is happy, because we do all have some really bad days, but on our worse day most of us choose to not kill another person.
    - Kat
      
      Why does everyone assume that because he is Muslim that must have been the reason for him to act out? For all we know he was just another troubled American individual who realised that being smart in high school doesn’t mean you’re smart in college and you have the ability to fail and life is hard and just snapped. He came here when he was very young. Does his religion make him more or less American? There has been no concrete evidence regarding the reasoning behind these attacks yet. Let us not jump to conclusions.
      - Bob
        
        There’s a quote from Tamerlan going around that says he doesn’t understand Americans, and he had his girlfriend convert to Islam. Dzhokhar had a social networking profile with numerous links to Chechen independence and Islamic revolutionaries. Obviously, none of this is conclusive – I only even mention the Chechen independence part because it’s a fairly radical movement, helping to demonstrate his political views – but I’d say there’s more to support their being radical Muslims than there is to support the theory of Dzhokhar’s grades being the cause.
      - eval
        
        pretty sure he was influenced by his radical brother.
  - BritS.
    
    There was no ‘one minute, then the next’ in this act. It was planned, pre-meditated, carried out. Sloppily… but you don’t come together with someone, make a bomb and detonate it, then kill a cop and continue your crime spree… without a LOT of agency, a great deal of determination, and a self-righteous hatred for one’s fellow man.
    
    He had a choice; this is what he chose.
- 1duffer
  
  Hi, I understand that you don’t know much about Justice. Justice, the Judicial System, is not about hate, but it says there is a price to pay when you do bad things. There is nothing worse than the death and maiming he inflicted on others. Death is hard on the family and friends, for instance, who will make money to pay the bills for the young children who are motherless. And what about the aspirations of the 8 year old boy who is dead. Gone in an instant.
  A man was sitting waiting for a loved one to finish the race and now he has no right and no left leg, What will he do?
  These atrocities must be addressed. In Massachusetts they do not put people to death for murder, but the Federal Justice system allows for killing the assassin. For me I do not care if the State kills him or keeps him in jail until he dies..which could be 75 years or so. Just as long as he never is free again. But if the Feds choose the death penalty, I will not be upset.
http://littlelioness.net Fiona

peace
Gemma

You are a wonderful human being and I appreciate you.

Thank you for sharing this.
uccella di paradiso

just lovely! you should make it a song, ms. palmer!
Trix

Holy hell, Amanda…THIS is why I love you so damn much. Yes. We are all human, we are all deeply flawed, we are all struggling. Some of us are much luckier in many ways than others. Thank you.
Katie-Maggie

Yes, Amanda. Yes.
Jenny Bruin

When you plant a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people, there is no way you cannot know what could happen. There is a point where either you get off the bus (even if it means your own death) or you are willing to proceed with the deaths of innocents.
We on the left say it time and time again about US soldiers: They could have refused orders. They knew what they were doing when they fired that missile. And on and on.
But this kid? This kid we want to hug and forgive and love? We want to say he couldn’t have known? That is spineless. He knew, acted, he killed. He continued killing.
You don’t have to hold hate in your heart, but not hating does not mean accepting, forgiving, or pitying. He deserves every ounce of suffering he will ever feel, and nothing he can do will ever replace or equal that which he took away from so many other people. Fuck.Him.
- Tansy
  
  The question that NEEDS to be asked is WHY. WHY so that it can never happen again,
Vyvyan

Thank you for this.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Donovan/1022546771 Dave Donovan

“you don’t know how your life managed to move twenty six miles forward and twenty eight miles back.” What a powerful, powerful line.
- http://twitter.com/QofTU Queen ofthe Universe
  
  I thought the same thing and about how many times in my life I have felt EXACTLY like that, both when I was young and now that I am old. Made me cry.
- Damo
  
  But I would walk 500 miles
  And I would walk 500 more
  Just to be the man who walked 1000 miles
  To fall down at your door….
Brody

This is what the world needs to be taking away from this situation. No more hate, no more fear, no more blame.
- lentower
  
  You paraphrase Martin Richard’s:
  
  “No more hurting people
  
  PEACE”
The Green Devil

That little fucker killed an 8 year old boy, a cop, and two women, not to mention maimed hundreds of people. He’s not a child. He has free will. He didn’t have to do what he did. He could have dropped a dime on his brother. He didn’t have to place that bomb. He could have surrendered to the police when they stopped him and his brother. He didn’t. He made his choices, and may that fucker pay every single day that remains of his life for his choices.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=703335175 Hannah Shmulsky
  
  You’re going to choke on all that bile.
  You have no idea what he’s been through. He’s already paying. That “little fucker” has probably been paying for years.
  - lentower
    
    What Hannah said.
    
    and:
    
    Don’t judge anyone until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes.
    - Discozombies
      
      Having been fucked is no excuse for being fucked up.
      - Robert
        
        I love that you just quoted Kimya. I also love that your quote applies pretty well to both sides of the fence here. A+.
      - lentower
        
        Which is why he should go to jail for the rest of his life.
        
        But is not a reason to hate him.
      - The Green Devil
        
        No, I hate him because he killed and maimed people. Sorry if you don’t feel my hatred is acceptable but frankly I don’t give a flying fuck. It’s not like I’m hating on him because I hate Chechens or something random like that. Maybe you’re comfortable not hating someone who killed, among others, a sweet little 8 year old boy who will now never get a chance to live.
      - quicksilver
        
        look, you can hate him if you want, but i think the main point that everyone – amanda included – is trying to make comes down to this: the bell tolls for thee. more pain and suffering, how ever well-earned you may find it, is not going to erase crimes committed.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I’m not asking for the crimes to be erased, since such a thing is impossible. I am questioning the moral compass of those who feel some sort of pity or empathy for a man who committed such a brutal act of evil and murdered/maimed innocent people. What does it say that the grass hasn’t even had a chance to take root on the graves of those he murdered that some people are seeking to empathize with the man who killed them? At the very least, it’s a gross act of disrespect and spitting in the face of those who haven’t yet begun to heal from their loss.
      - Brittany
        
        This is a very narrow-minded, sad way to think. Being able to empathize with someone in no way means you’re condoning their actions, and it’s not spitting in the faces of the victims. Every single person in this world, no matter how fucked up they are, comes from a context that has made them that way. Trying to understand that is not saying you agree with what they did, and it’s not disrespectful to the victims. Trying to understand why someone is the way they are, why they’ve done things they have, is never a bad thing. It can help to prevent such things in the future. It’s knowledge. I understand why you feel the way you do, especially since you personally know people affected, and I’m truly sorry for that. In my opinion, though, labeling someone blindly as a monster without understanding that they come from a context and have been shaped by the world around them does a huge disservice to our rational society. We’re leaps and bounds from the pitchfork witch hunt days, but thought processes like these just slow our progress.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I strenuously disagree. When they made the conscious decision to kill as many people as possible, any claim to humanity was forfeited by them. They chose, through their actions, to remove themselves from the realm of civilized society. Who gives a flying fuck what drove them to it, except as an exercise in aberrant psychology and a curiosity as to how someone could do something so evil? Nothing in their background could possibly excuse what they did.
      - http://www.facebook.com/nova.armada.5 Nova Armada
        
        Ok, we get it. You’re a proud hater and you hate this. So why are you doing what you are just condemning and spread the hate so vigorously among these good people who are just trying to process this uneasy situation the least harmful way possible?
      - The Green Devil
        
        “Proud hater”? What kind of fucktarded slur is that? “Uneasy situation”? Goddamn, this wasn’t somebody making a joke in questionable taste during a wedding toast. This is 4 people dead and hundreds maimed, many for life. Jesus fucking Christ on a unicycle, if you’re that incapable of deciding if that little prick is evil or not after what he did, you really need to be clubbed upside the head with a clue bat repeatedly.
      - http://www.facebook.com/kellie.knight.165 Kellie Knight
        
        Amen to that!
    - http://twitter.com/FairDaizie FairDaizie
      
      You could walk a mile in Jeff Bauman’s shoes, except the bomb blew both his legs off.
      - lentower
        
        FairDaizie
        
        It’s true that many people were injured.
        
        But saying it here is not constructive to the point Hannah was making.
        
        I hope you gain in compassion over the years.
  - myname
    
    How would you know? Close personal friends? Then why didn’t you help him? Everything seems so poignant when Amanda Palmer says it. Sheep.
    - lentower
      
      myname Why do you think gun shot wounds don’t hurt?
      
      Dzhokhar has at least two, as well as other injuries.
      - myname
        
        Yep. Well earned, I should say.
      - myname
        
        Besides which, I didn’t say I don’t think gun shot wounds hurt. Is not that the very purpose? So, what’s your point?
  - myname
    
    And, by all accounts, he hasn’t been paying for years, He’s been a happy, well-adjusted, Obama loving pot head. Just like me, just like many of you. I never blew anyone up…
  - The Green Devil
    
    I make no apologies for hating that fucker. We make value judgments every day of our lives and I am quite comfortable hating someone who killed 4 innocent people in cold blood and maimed hundreds more, condemning them to a lifetime of trying to put their shattered bodies and psyches back together.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  “Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned.”
  
  my guess is that he won’t need any of our help to “pay for” what he’s done…he’s living inside his own head and body right now, and i can’t imagine what it’s like in there. that, i presume, is payment more than the cruelest torture anyone else could inflict on him from the outside.
  - Catherine
    
    A lot of guessing and presuming going on here.
    - m
      
      it takes already a lot of guessing to affirm that he was guilty without any concrete proofs, as everyone seems to be doing without any questioning. stop eating what the american media sells you indiscriminately. try to think for yourselves, for a change. it’s not yet the time to celebrate justice nor to condemn blindly dzhokhar and his brother. and Amanda, thank you for this beautiful and compassionate poem. you’re too fucking amazing. love your work.
      - http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
        
        If you don’t consider pictures of him putting the bomb at the feet of Martin, or confessing to the carjack victim or throwing bombs at the police-not concrete evidence, what do you consider concrete?
  - The Green Devil
    
    You think he regrets what he did? He’s not stupid. He and his brother made careful plans to kill and maim people. They succeeded. I doubt very much he regrets what he did, and no matter what he feels, I highly doubt it anywhere near approaches the collective pain he inflicted on others. Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve a moment of pity. It is pity better spent on the real victims here. Let this cockroach rot in hell.
    - kmwilliams
      
      Is it possible to know where pity is better spent? Maybe pity is not finite. Maybe people have the capacity to feel pity and sorrow and love for both friends and enemies? Maybe friends and enemies and strangers and heroes and villains are all just humans, caught in the storm. I don’t know if he regrets what he did. Maybe he doesn’t. If that’s the case, I feel pity that he doesn’t. If he does, I feel pity that he does. Sorrow for him, for his brother, for his family and friends, doesn’t diminish the sorrow I feel for anyone else. When I love someone, it doesn’t make me love anyone else less. I am not diminished by my capacity to love or pity or cry or rage. I am increased. All emotions increase in direct proportion to how much you feel them and how hard you cling to them, nourish them. I’ll continue to feel my pity for him and for the victims and for strangers and friends and internet avatars.. and I think feeling that will make me feel fine(r).
      - The Green Devil
        
        It speaks to your character that you would pity someone who CHOSE to rip apart the lives of total strangers. He made a conscious choice to do this and if you choose to feel pity for this scumsucking evil prick, that says a lot about you.
      - kmwilliams
        
        And what does my feeling pity and sorrow for the victims and their families and friends say about me? Does one outweigh the other? Does my pity and sorrow for one human being contradict or counteract my pity and sorrow for another?
      - The Green Devil
        
        You have a choice, KM. Feel pity for the victims and their families or for the person who caused their pain. It can’t cut both ways. Expressing empathy toward the murderer is spitting in the faces of the victims and makes the sympathy you say you have for them worthless and insincere. Grow a set and make a choice.
      - http://twitter.com/Cylithria Cylithria Dubois
        
        sometimes not making a choice takes a bigger set then one knows!
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Philip/591615305 Michael Philip
        
        not making a choice is cowardice and it just shows that you are just empty
      - kmwilliams
        
        Why doesn’t my sadness for the victims and the families make my sadness for the perpetrators “worthless and insincere”? If it can’t cut both ways. Am I not spitting in the bombers faces by feeling sorry for the victims, by that logic? You think one is stronger?
        
        You want me to make a choice (I can’t grow a pair as I lack the testosterone). Ok. The choice you are presenting to me seems ultimately to be between love and hate. Ok, I choose love. In all its forms, sympathy, pity, compassion, attempts at understanding, casting no stones, perpetuating no hate. The choice is not difficult. The practice is not easy. Hate is easy, love is hard.
        
        It’s really not spit in your (or anyones) face to try not to hate, to try to understand, to try to see humans beings where a glance or a glare would see only monsters.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Philip/591615305 Michael Philip
        
        the choice is quite simple, you’re choosing to side with a terrorist and a monster. there’s nothing too difficult to see or understand here
      - lentower
        
        One can have compassion for both victims and victimizers,
        as I have compassion for you.
        
        I hope as you get beyond the pain of knowing someone who knew some of the victims, you’ll grow into realizing this.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        It can and does cut both ways. Again and again and again and again and again. Read history.
      - http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
        
        I’m really sorry you’re so angry.
      - The Green Devil
        
        A friend of mine lost a family member to that little fucker. There’s a photo of them in the moments before the bomb went off, just enjoying a sunny day cheering on the runners and not having a clue that right behind them is the person who was about to end their life. I have every right to be angry and I don’t give a shit if I am judged for being angry about this or being angry that there are those who feel this murderer is entitled to any sort of pity or compassion for the conscious choice to commit evil that he did. He made his choice, innocent people are dead and maimed, and if there are those out there incapable of judging evil and being able to justify it or make excuses for it, I don’t have to accept that.
      - http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
        
        You don’t have to do anything. We all handle these things in different ways.
        I’m sorry for your loss. All my best to you and yours.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I thank you for your kind expression of sympathy. I did not express a direct loss, It’s my friend whose family is having to deal with this nightmare and who knows their reaction if they were to read these comments here expressing the belief that we should feel some sort of empathy for the person responsible for the murder of their loved one.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
        
        i agree with TGD that it says a lot about you. i don’t think we agree on what it says though.
    - http://www.facebook.com/kellie.knight.165 Kellie Knight
      
      Hey may not regret what he’s done, but I think that’s only a reason to pity him. There’s something broken inside him
  - Just me
    
    This is assuming that he is a person and feels remorse. I believe that he does not feel the way a normal, rational person does. He will not “pay for his actions everyday”. He did what he thought was right and just and will feel, I believe, comfortable with his actions from the day he planed them until the day is unholy soul no longer walks the earth. He is, quite simply a misguided piece of shit, and anyone who thinks otherwise is ASSUMING that he is the same as you
  - Jah
    
    My guess: Criminology wasn’t your major.
    I do love those naive pseudo liberal ideas, however, we live in a very real and empirical world. mayhap quoting recent studies would serve the better purpose.
    The words of great scientists seems extremely poetic, give reading a try.
- flynn99
  
  In all of this, I have yet to see real evidence that Dzhokhar and his brother planted the marathon bombs. I’m not saying they didn’t, just that nothing conclusive has been proven. (Has it? someone tell me if I’m wrong.)
  
  And if they did, if they wanted to kill and main all those people, if they wanted to do that to be happy (because we’re all always trying to do what makes us happy), then they must have been suffering in a terrible angry place in their minds. Think of the victims, help the victims, have compassion for the victims, but have compassion also for those that kill.
  - lentower
    
    Never hurts to be skeptical.
    
    I have hear media reports that they have pictures of Dzhokhar putting his backpack down right next to the Richard’s family just before that blast.
    
    Also that they found scraps of a backpack of the same make that contained one of the bombs.
    
    Neither are conclusive.
    
    The evidence of them kidnapping/car jacking in Cambridge,
    being the cause of a high-speed chase,
    and the shoot-out in Watertown,
    seem more conclusive.
    
    I hope that the criminal analysis of the explosive residues, from
    Monday and Thursday show a conclusive match.
  - The Green Devil
    
    http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/04/19/boston-bombing-suspect-martin-richard.jpg Other photos showing them carrying backpacks that matched the ones found at the scene. And I am guessing that the police probably have purchase records of the specialty batteries that were bought that were used in the bombs and are well on their way of tracking down the purchases of the pressure cookers. And if they’re not guilty of this, they’re guilty as fuck of engaging the police in a shoot-out and also the dead brother had a bomb strapped to his chest.
    
    And no- I refuse to have any sympathy for those fuckers. They had choices. They are not victims in any manner of the word. I have compassion for those who deserve it but none for those who commit cold-blooded murder.
    - Artemis Hope
      
      Do you really need to just post 500 times on this page about how much you hate him? We get it. Move on… writing your hate over and over again isn’t going to bring any of these people back to life, it won’t put anyone’s limbs back on.
      You’re hurting. I’m sorry. I am happy to accept that you may choose to grieve in a different way than me.
      Now, move on please and let the rest of us grieve in the way that will be most helpful to us.
      - miserichik
        
        Thank you Artemis, I was going to comment that Green Devil might want to direct some of this energy into HELPING his friend who lost a family member, not regurgitating the same thing over and over. GD, please, we see that you’re hurting and grieving. Everyone is. Go use this energy more wisely than you are now. We understand your feelings, there’s no need to beat them into us any more.
        
        Peace.
  - http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.
    
    They told the person whose car they stole that they did it. Plus, one of the people who was badly wounded in the bombing saw him put the bag down two minutes before it went off, and as soon as he woke up in the hospital he told everyone he knew who one of the bombers was. There’s really not a lot of doubt in this case.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=703335175 Hannah Shmulsky

Amanda, this made me cry. Thank you for your compassion and understanding. Thank you for your ability to put it into words so well. Hate just begets hate; Dzhokhar needs to make amends for his actions, but he is a struggling human being and we don’t have the right to judge him, because dammit, we’re not omniscient.
http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen

This isn’t a poem for Dzjokhar, it’s a poem for yourself because you imagine you know how he feels. This just makes you the CNN of poets, though – you didn’t know this boy, but you’re putting words and feelings into his mouth when he can’t anymore. Sometimes a huge crowd and the lack of a time delay turns an act of creative response to tragedy into something hurtful and presumptuous, and this feels like one of those times to me. You are trying to be empathetic but you are papering over his real personality with one you’ve constructed for the purpose of empathy. Please don’t make this about you, and don’t make your own feelings into his feelings using the megaphone you wield. Be better than CNN.

-A fan
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  this isn’t about me. or him. it’s pretty much about everyone.
  - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
    
    You made it about him when you dedicated the poem to him in the title, and when you described his emotions in second person in the poem, emotions regarding situations of the last few days that only he can really describe accurately. He isn’t a symbol of youth and alienation, he’s a real person lying shackled to a hospital bed with his throat cut open. The best any of us can do for him and for ourselves is to hold off on judgment and not to invent his motivations out of the ether.
    
    I understand that you are trying to acknowledge his humanity, but you aren’t really succeeding in that if you are inventing his feelings to fit what you see of the situation.
    - http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
      
      the you isn’t him.
      
      read again.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        “you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the
        bottom of the boat.”
        “you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown.”
        “you don’t know how to make something, but the instructions are on the internet.”
        “you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.
        you don’t know how to drive this car.
        you don’t know the way to new york.”
        
        I think it’s clear that some of the thoughts and feelings represented in this poem are supposed to be his or his brother’s, just as others are representative of how other people were reacting to the marathon events. And other people in the comments are responding as if much of the poem is from his POV, and praising you for it – and you are responding appreciatively to those comments. So I do think that the effect you are going for, and succeeding in, is to make people feel they have an insight into his fear, his uncertainty, his disconnection.
        
        So why do you not feel that this is making premature assumptions?
      - http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
        
        I think you’re being a little bit over-literal. The whole country has gathered at their television screens to digest these details. This story is inhabiting the hearts and minds of a nation, and other nations as well. Including these details is a way to tap into our collective imaginations and fascinations, and you can see from the comments that many people are identifying with that. Specificity is the key to making art real for people, and using these details is a way to tap into our collective horror at not just this kid, but at all people who commit atrocities.
        
        You can read a poem any number of different ways, but it seems like you’re only looking at the literal level, not the greater implication. Poems are poems because they’re poetical.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        This definitely is a powerful moment, and one that lives in people’s imaginations and fascinations more than in facts or observations, currently. That’s my point – in the absence of any clear understanding, using details of the attack and manhunt alongside more emotional writing makes people feel like they know this young man’s point of view.
        These poems do have great implications, and one of those implications is to provide a perspective that often looms larger than more delayed and realistic portrayals of events. That was my point about CNN poetry. I just feel that this poem produces a false sense of intimacy with something we don’t understand very well just yet.
      - http://twitter.com/n3cr0phelia Alejandra
        
        She wrote a good poem.
        
        Poetry is supposed to provoke an emotional response, even if it’s just identification… yourself (the reader) or with an other, whether real or imaginary. I don’t think you’re quite getting it (the process of writing poetry and inspiration) BUT I am a little bit excited and pleased that you feel so strongly about it, that you feel poetry is that powerful. It is.
        
        I am really disconnected from the media, what I know about this event I’ve heard from people I know re-telling what they’ve heard or read.
        I don’t trust the media, but I trust poetry.
        
        I managed to let it affect me without connecting it to any specific event or person (I clicked a twitter link and didn’t read the subject line, went straight to the small text) it speaks for itself. Who it’s “for” doesn’t matter (to the reader) unless you make it matter… which you have.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        “I don’t trust the media, but I trust poetry.”
        
        I know that journalism has been doing a shitty job of things lately, but my whole point with these comments is that both are types of communication, and both can be used to mischaracterize a situation. And please don’t tell me what poetry’s about – I’m not as ignorant about the form and function of poetry as people here seem to assume.
        
        Poems exist to create an emotional response or to use the language in new and bizarre ways, but there’s a choice that every writer makes repeatedly when they write a poem. In this case, it seems like Amanda wants to emphasize the humanity of Dzhokhar along with the humanity of other members of the community. The way she’s doing that, though, is by ascribing a lot of sentiments to him, or comparing him blandly with a lot of very different people. I think her version of humanity dismisses the agency he had in the situation, and his feelings towards committing these acts.
      - wilder125
        
        I only trust media by reading multiple sources. At least 2 at minimum from outside the U.S. I will never get a complete story without having multiple stories
      - Iheartpoetry
        
        Diggingellen – take a break.
      - AmandaHugenkiss
        
        Actually, it’s shit.
      - Anon
        
        I guess art is hard. Oh well.
      - albe
        
        and this is hatred
      - Poem Critic
        
        How good can it really be, if it doesn’t rhyme?
      - http://twitter.com/mArusyA_ts masha tsarkova
        
        it’s a poem if the author says so and graphically shows that it is. rhyming is absolutely unnecessary.
      - http://twitter.com/Anamorphotic Anamorphosis
        
        A poem does not need to rhyme to be a poem. My favorite poet is Joyce Mansour who was a surrealist poet. Her work is amazing and soul wrenching and none of it rhymes. I have a chap book I bought of her stuff that she published with another poet – Ted Joans, who is also amazing and much more joyful with his words. He doesn’t rhyme either. I bought the tiny book for 30 bucks and found out it was normally being sold for 200.00. Beat poets often didn’t rhyme and neither do many modern poets. Some rap artists lean heavier on rhythm than rhyming. I am not saying that you should dislike the poem or that you should like the poem. I just wanted to let you know that it isn’t great form to discredit a poem simply on the basis of rhyming. It makes one sound as if all they read are limericks and the like.
      - kt
        
        ..Are you serious right now?
      - luci_fer
        
        I hope that got 42 likes because it was funny >.<;
      - Ilpalazzo
        
        “I don’t trust the media, but I trust poetry.”
        What does that even mean??
      - http://www.facebook.com/marlo.ricciardi Marlo Miller Ricciardi
        
        It means nothing. Libtards are blithering idiots and don’t realize it which exacebates the idiocy.
      - john
        
        its so interesting that you have a terminal inability to express yourself without insults.
      - witchbyrd
        
        can i have a link to the good poem she wrote? all i can see is this terrible poem.
      - http://www.facebook.com/marlo.ricciardi Marlo Miller Ricciardi
        
        Well, where is it? This was pure drivel.
      - Keith
        
        Just because something gets a reaction doesn’t make it good. So may things in the art community get a reaction and they’re terrible. This poem was poorly written and the only reason anyone cares is because this horrible act of violence just happened and she’s trying to somehow justify how we’re all humans. It’s garbage is what it is.
      - Guest
        
        “Poems are poems because they’re poetical.”
        
        Not so.
        Let’s ask William Carlos Williams:
        
        “I have eaten
        the plums
        that were in
        the icebox
        
        and which
        you were probably
        saving
        for breakfast
        
        Forgive me
        they were delicious
        so sweet
        and so cold”
      - http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
        
        And you don’t find that poetical?
      - Good God
        
        I think the word you’re looking for is “poetic.” But this “poem” is neither poetic or “poetical.” It’s shit. Not to mention even more attention whoredom on the part of Ms. Palmer.
      - Basho
        
        Wow. You think Williams, the best example of late modernist stylistics, is ‘shit’? All poetic techniques are there. It’s simple yet sublime.
      - Good God
        
        I’ve taught poetry and literature at a college level. Yes, it’s shit. Williams would be offended to be named in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.. Ms. Palmer has sure fooled a lot of people over the years with her Emperor’s New Clothes. And you all follow like lemmings. Attention whoredom. Move along. Nothing more to see here.
      - Anon
        
        Well, maybe art is hard after all and besides he does kinda look like you a young bob dylan, in that creepy friday the 13th. kind-of way.
      - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
        
        What about rhyming?
      - Gurp
        
        Yeah I don’t get it
      - Xeithgeist
        
        He was referring to Ms. Palmer’s poem. Not William Carlos Williams.
      - http://www.facebook.com/marlo.ricciardi Marlo Miller Ricciardi
        
        basho, he is talking about the content not the form and it is “shit”.
      - http://twitter.com/evilforestgnome diana
        
        So true!
      - Dan
        
        First of all, “poetical” is a word, in the dictionary. Less commonly used, but it’s a word. She’s entitled to use it if she enjoys it’s cadence or just wants to be cute about it or whatever. You’d think such an esteemed literature genius as yourself would know that.
        
        Second of all… MAN, grad students get uppity after their first TA assignment. I’ve taught undergrads too, but I didn’t come to the conclusion that my aesthetic tastes are now the ruler against which all artistic expression must be judged. You got into grad school. Congrats. It’s not that hard. But you clearly haven’t learned much.
      - kt
        
        Is it attention whoredom just because so many people have seen it? Why would she need to be an attention whore? She already has an entire musical career, a TED talk, is married to a popular author.. Just because so many people are going to see it doesn’t mean she’s an attention whore..?
        I’m sorry I can’t even adequately respond because that just doesn’t make sense.
      - Iheartpoetry
        
        Well it had your attention. If you don’t like her work, why are you here, on this blog post?
      - Poem Police
        
        Don’t think that’s a poem. Sorry.
      - http://www.facebook.com/marlo.ricciardi Marlo Miller Ricciardi
        
        The guy is murdering scum. The “poem” sucks. That is the greater truth, no implication necessary.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=783817577 Paul Pearson
        
        It’s a poem. It’s art. Even if 100% of each line was factually incorrect, there would still be a valid reason for its being. It’s not reportage, it’s imagination.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        Poetry isn’t journalism, but it doesn’t exist in an apolitical vacuum. Poetry has been used to valorize war, justify repressive states, and as propaganda just as it’s been used as a protest/activism tool. So, certainly poetry isn’t inherently factual, and is based on imagination, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no moral or philosophical implications to using a current event like this to produce a particular emotional response.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=783817577 Paul Pearson
        
        True, and no doubt that implications you speak of are part of Amanda’s intended effect. It’s completely understandable that people be outraged by the idea of sympathy, or more accurately empathy, of the mind of the culprit. But I don’t think AP’s poem was a value judgment in either direction — you can’t reasonably say she’s in favor of people getting killed. It’s an attempt to represent the emotional blueprint of an accused killer. Yes, yes, in our outrage about this incident, it’s fair to question why we should even consider that, because we risk looking like we support the killer. When in essence, I think Amanda was just trying to understand his motives. Why does she do that? Because she’s an artist. That’s her job.
        
        She does not endorse what he did. She does not suggest that we need to coddle this guy. I don’t feel like I owe this guy my sympathy at all. But I think Amanda’s reason for posting this poem isn’t to encourage sympathy for the devil, as it were — she’s talking about the random, psychological impulses this guy had that we might recognize as familiar. That such a profile could be within any one of us. Why this guy chose to do what he did because of those impulses, we can’t say. The takeaway I get from AP’s poem is that she’s trying to explain the common roots that we have with this guy. We chose to overcome our emotional questions; this guy took the cheap, immoral and terrible way out. Talking, or even theorizing, about why he did what he did, and comparing it to similar emotions we have within ourselves, might be good steps in preventing this terrible act from happening again.
        
        I feel the way you do about sexual predators — why should I try to understand them? Fuck that. They do what they do when they know it’s wrong. I don’t have any patience for them. But I don’t think AP’s saying we should be patient, I think she’s saying we have to understand what happened with this guy. And yeah, maybe that means we should try to “understand” sexual predators, and as much as I’m loath to do that, granted, perhaps someone with more patience than me will someday figure out why they do what they do, and hopefully figure out how to stop someone from doing it.
        
        Amanda’s not trying to curry sympathy for the Boston bombers, she’s just saying “Holy fuck, I feel those impulses, but I’ve managed them. I know how it feels.” She’s taking a chance because she needs to bring this killer’s feelings and actions up to her level to try to get to the answer as to how this guy felt killing was an acceptable response, and why hers, and arts in general, is different. It’s not empathy as we have come to know it, it’s problem-solving. But I definitely get why people are pissed.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        I never say here that what she did is immoral because she’s creating sympathy for a probable killer – many other people take that tack, and that’s not what I’m saying. I have been saying that she invented a person when she wrote this poem and tacked his name on it, that she is underlining the humanity of Dzhokhar by ascribing to him feelings that she has no idea whether he has – she’s trying to emphasize his humanity by turning him into a symbol or a representation of what she imagines he might be. There’s a conflict there, and it’s important to recognize it. I compared her to CNN because that’s what this reminds me of – CNN does with facts what she is doing with feelings.
        
        And I don’t think that she raised the questions you say she did (“Why did we and Amanda choose our paths based on that information, and why did Dzhokhar choose his? How do we heal that? How can we stop what Dzhokhar did based on what we know about how we feel?”) with this poem, but that could just be because it was ineffective.
      - KeepItToYourselfNextTimeAmanda
        
        Well for me the reason I didn’t like the poem isn’t because I think she is an attention grabber or that she was disingenuous on purpose. I didn’t like the poem because it is a message that is over and over again being touched upon, it was only ever going to be read by people that agree with it based on her audience and if we revert to cynicism then why does she feel she needs to make her responses to the incident so public? My cynical side will tell me she is either a self-absorbed artist operating under the pretense of delving into the problems and emotional states of others while truly just wanting to espouse her own sentiments or that she used it as a way to garner attention. Maybe this all just betrays my sense of admiration for the tortured lonely reserved artist but I feel as though making a statement about anything on such a public platform debases the message automatically. To be completely honest it felt like a 12 year old wrote it, like a complete lack of depth and then a sense of arrogance and snobbery, typical of people who think themselves artists, when she says that we are only scratching the surface of her profound poem.
      - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
        
        The poem ignores that he WANTED to kill people and he wanted to do so because he felt that they were evil in their un-Islamic freedoms and that he probably feels proud that he killed these people and happy because it means that after his death he will ascend to Paradise. In other words, precisely the motives which he almost curely feels which are the MOST alien to Amanda Palmer’s own likely world view.
        In other words, she’s not engaging the alien and different, she’s assuming that it’s someone who thinks just like herself, just a little more violent and mixed up.
        It’s an act of dis-respect toward the terrorists, and indeed toward Islam, greater than any I’ve ever committed. I would salute her for this, if I didn’t strongly suspect she had the reverse intention.
      - kippollo
        
        I’ve seen people throw shit on a canvas, but that doesn’t make it art or imaginative.
        
        Hell, throwing shit at a canvas and praying it sticks is pretty much the summation of Miss Play For Hugs’ entire career.
      - john
        
        yet Kippollo, even though you dislike her you take your time to criticize her for her passions, her love, and her honesty. don’t you have a more productive way to utilize your time?
      - Jan
        
        It’s not a poem. It’s not art. It’s a bunch of scribbled lines. If this is poetry, all my tweets are poetry. Still, It has a valid reason for its being: the woman has the right to express herself.
      - Pat
        
        I think that Ms. Palmer is telling you, over and over again, that you don’t know. It’s not a conversation with Dzohkar, it’s a conversation with the reader; we don’t know.
        At least, that’s how I have read it.
      - http://twitter.com/mattaukamp matt aukamp
        
        She’s putting all humans in the situation, so one could empathize with how powerful and difficult things can become. She’s using the kid’s experiences as fence-posts to hold up the idea. It’s a challenge for you, the reader, to imagine being the person in those situations. With YOUR feelings. And imagine what it might have been like to be him, with HIS feelings. She’s not a reporter. She’s not factually laying out what this kid was thinking at all times. That’s not art. She’s a writer and poet and she’s exploring, and encouraging the reader to explore. That’s what art does.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285020134 James Hoggatt
        
        My head begins to ache with how narrowly you view art.
        
        Its not ABOUT him. Does it INVOLVE him? Absolutely. The “you” in the poem is not only simultaneously him, but me, you, amanda, Cher, and the girl down the road playing magenta in the late night Rocky Horror.
        
        These emotions and ideas are things that we all went through, and is a story we all share. I picked at my fingers relentlessly. I definitely found newfound love for my fat-ass legs. I bet you did too. I bet Dkzokhar did as well. Each of these lines are different for each of us. We respond violently with sadness, happiness, fear, hate, love, anger, or any number of other emotions.
        
        Do any of us feel the same as he did? No. Do you feel the same as me? No.
        
        Does this poem mean completely different things to everyone that reads it? Yes.
        
        Should you be angry? Yes Sad? Yes Happy? Yes Confused? Yes Furious? Yes Loving the poem? Yes. Hating the poem? Yes
        
        Just as long as you feel something about what happened. Something you think about for a moment.
      - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
        
        This poem made me think more about how Amanda views the prerogative of art than anything to do with the perspectives of those who commit terrorism. It makes me think that she cares more about emotional power than about emotional verisimilitude. Not all poems need footnotes or accuracy, but there is something to be said for responsibility in one’s artistic portrayals, particularly given the microphone she commands.
        
        There has to be a there, there.
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        I don’t get this. If I write a crazy poem, no one will care. Why shouldn’t Amanda Palmer be able to do that, too? We don’t own her.
      - New York I love you.
        
        Excellent response. Summing it up without summing it up at all. Not black and white. I don’t even know yet how I feel about the poem, it wasn’t hateful and negative though. I’m feeling better now after reading your point of view. thanks.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        and poetry isn’t journalism.
      - Jennifer
        
        “this isn’t about me. or him. it’s pretty much about everyone.”
        “The you isn’t him.”
        
        Make up your mind. Did you mean everyone else? It’s certainly not about me. I’ve never been responsible for the death, dismemberment, or injury of 160 people, I’ve never hidden in a boat, and I’m pretty sure I could find my way to New York. He is not a victim, not even of hate. He is a perpetuator. Terrorism is not romantic.
      - wilder125
        
        So she should have said You all, or Y’all, instead of “You” which can either be singular or plural, is that it?
      - AT
        
        Amanda, no disrespect intended, but you can’t profess to make ‘art’ and then tell readers that their interpretation is wrong. Especially when it’s something as literal as this.
      - wilder125
        
        So the author is wrong in saying it’s for and about everyone. Especially when everyone is responding differently aka taking it a different way or even taking it personally.
        
        Hmm.. interesting theory
      - http://twitter.com/77danielsan Daniel John
        
        This.
        Look, I(‘ve) adore(d) Palmer’s music. And I believe a poem has achieved success if, like other art forms, it has cultivated from its audience an emotional response. After scanning through all of the vitriol posted below, clearly the poem is successful in this regard.
        
        But as far as poems go I wouldn’t say it’s great. You would’ve gotten more effective topical satire out of a limerick or haiku.
      - Christ Why
        
        She’s not telling anyone their interpretation is wrong, she is telling them the way SHE intended it, not the way you should perceive it.
      - AlwaysPeanuts
        
        If people are interpreting it wrong and she has to correct them, then it’s not presenting it’s message well and it’s arguably not good art. For example, if I want to make a painting addressing the plight of African Americans in history and people see it as a portrait of a random man, then it’s not an effective piece.
      - Christ Why
        
        There will always be people who interpret art differently than it was intended. People are interpreting it wrong, but a lot of people are also interpreting it in the way it was intended, or in another way completely. That doesn’t make it “bad art.” Art is up for interpretation, and poetry isn’t always nearly as obvious as a painting as you described.
      - AlwaysPeanuts
        
        Oh my god, this. As an artist, I try not to put too much meaning in my own pieces because I know that the viewer will just take what he or she wants from it. I find that when artists write paragraphs about their paintings that it’s just a bunch of pretentious garbage. Art is what it means to the viewer, and if you have to explain it in an essay, it’s shitty art. Obviously, if people are interpreting it wrong, it’s not good art because it doesn’t present its message well enough. You may as well have fingerpainted a Jackson Pollock.
      - http://www.facebook.com/bridgetamc Bridget McGraw-Bordeaux
        
        ok so since a lot of us don’t seem to get how this -isn’t- about him, do you think you would be willing to elaborate on what it -is- about?
        
        because so far your lack of explanation only furthers the legitimacy of the response that “we” just must not “get” art or whatever other insult people have thrown out at those of us who don’t like this poem.
      - HmmMaybe
        
        If people are interpreting the “you” as him, then the you *is* him. I’m pretty sure that’s how ‘art’ works. If you did not want anyone to think that, then this poem is not a very good expression of what you were actually trying to convey. Personally, I think you absolutely intended for the “you” to INCLUDE him.
        
        I also think you forgot a few lines about how he (sorry, “you”) stood around watching people die after the bomb went off, then went back to your life like nothing happened.
        
        Is that something you can identify with also? If not, I think you’re cherry-picking, and ignoring the whole truth. That’s absolutely your right – but I don’t see how you can be too upset at those who are cherry-picking in favor of the victims instead of the criminal.
        
        Just my two cents.
      - Wayne Blackburn
        
        Don’t you know? The subject is whatever the ‘artist’ says it is, no matter what it actually says, even if they change that claim over time.
      - one of the three percent
        
        ignore the sheep
      - FunnyFaceKing
        
        the you is amanda, everything’s always about amanda
      - panda
        
        thank you. i read the poem. then read the comments. then had to read the poem again. i thought maybe i missed something because everyone is assuming the poem was written in the strict perspective of dzhokhar. thanks for clarifying what i had originally thought.
        
        poetry is meant for personal interpretation, but it doesnt help when people don’t really know how to read poetry.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcelino-Soliz/1474415971 Marcelino Soliz
        
        you are so much nicer than I am when faced with stupid people. That’s what makes you a good person.
      - ZepFan
        
        Amanda, I just found out who you are and now I wish I hadn’t. You’re clearly exploiting human tragedy for personal gain and that is absolutely despicable. Get rid of that “support my art” box and direct all donations towards the Red Cross you terrible excuse for a human being.
      - Tansy
        
        It’s automatic at the end of posts.
        
        She didn’t just add it there specifically to get you to donate because of this poem.
      - ZepFan
        
        She could easily remove it. She’s doing this for money, nothing else.
  - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
    
    that is exactly what i took away from it…and it gives definition to the feelings inside that are so confusing and that is why it is brilliant. This should be in literary journals.
    - http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
      
      Brilliant-really, have you read much poetry?
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        Reading and writing off and on since I was 8. Poetry is my favorite form of art. I had been dead a little for the last few years…. separated from poetry and then I discovered Amanda Palmer a couple of months ago. She brought me back to it. So yes. You??? If you want to have a conversation please email me: tanyas13sonnets@gmail.com. I had to disconnect notifications from Disqus…for now.
      - http://twitter.com/n3cr0phelia Alejandra
        
        I dare to assume he/she has not.
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        thanks for not assuming my gender. but your assumptions about my familiarity with poetry in your “dare” is incorrect. I don’t think I should be judged in this manner for liking a poem. Please direct your anger elsewhere.
    - miserichik
      
      I agree with Tanya. Since the line about the iPhone is what people are highlighting, let me translate it into a non-terroristic viewpoint…haven’t we all been somewhere, in trouble, stranded or left behind, or lost, and we look, and our phone battery is blinking red? We’ve lost our way and our connection to help is failing. In this way, we’ve all felt alone.
      
      OF COURSE she doesn’t condone what he or his brother have done. But she still might feel for him as a human being, however misguided or wrong or sick he is. Taking it literally makes it not poetry, and poetry is to be translated or rearranged to fit a viewpoint.
      
      Oh, and Tanya’s poetry is beautiful, and I’ll fight to defend it, she’s a friend.
      - AgainKeepItToYourself
        
        haha do you really think that all these people responding are ignorant of how these thought lines can be translated into our lives? you are as deluded as your friend tanya and amanda
      - miserichik
        
        Well, that’s your opinion, and if you think so, then maybe you should follow your name and keep it to yourself. I do think that many of these “people” are ignorant and want to lash out at an artist who is merely expressing her feelings. I’ll stick up for anyone I feel is being disrespected. that’s what friends do.
  - http://twitter.com/Jedlight Aline Carriere
    
    No. It’s definitely about you. This has nothing to do with him. You don’t know him. Even his family didn’t know him. You’re trying to explain him, understand him, where he’s coming from, what he might have experienced, but this is fantasy, your imagination, so it is definitely about you – what you need to get through this experience. That’s fine. It’s cathartic. And it’s not about everyone, because I am someone and it’s not about me. Even before he was caught I hoped he would be captured alive and have a chance at redemption. Even then I thought that might be too much to hope because putting a bomb down next to a child means he crossed a line – a drop that breaks the surface tension. But, I don’t want to lose hope that people can change, that he can change, that hate can be conquered. So, I would still like to see justice and redemption. But, I have no use for pity.
  - Commenter
    
    It’s about whatever we understand it to be about isn’t it?
  - http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
    
    How very Postmodern of you. No, it isn’t pretty much about everyone,and I don’t see how you can say it is.
    - wilder125
      
      And yet, she has so many replies to it.
      - Maggie
        
        How does her getting a lot of replies say anything about who the subject of the poem is?
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285020134 James Hoggatt
        
        Because you responding is the point. You are suddenly vocal about something horrific that you were part of as an observer and as an American. This was always about you, otherwise you wouldn’t be here posting.
      - http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
        
        I think that’s a stretch-I’m here responding because it’s okay to write bad poetry,butnot okay to obsfuscate to defend it.
      - Maggie
        
        Yeah, the thing is, I didn’t become “suddenly vocal” about something horrific I was part of because I read a poem by Amanda Palmer. I live in Boston, so the topic came up once or twice before this morning. In fact, I seem to recall that even people outside of Boston were discussing these events well before she dashed this off. And now that I’m thinking about it, this poem hasn’t really caused me to discuss the event at all, it’s just caused me to say that I think the poem is bad and Palmer is grubbing for attention again. The only thoughts it’s provoked are “Holy shit that first line is hilariously stupid” and “Scratch that, this whole poem is.”
        
        In other words, I’m here posting because the poem is terrible and ill-conceived. Me responding does not make the poem about me any more than getting drunk with my friends and mocking “Showgirls” makes that film about me.
      - barbara
        
        agreed. this poem has not brought to the surface ANY discussion of the actual event, especially absent discussion of the victims, of terror, of hopelessness. the discussion that has emerged is mostly shallow and crass, just like the fucking poem.
      - Hash
        
        Experiencing getting drunk with your friends and mocking Showgirls is totally about you though. It has very little to do with that movie and everything to do with the experience you have outside the movie.
      - Maggie
        
        I’ll agree that who I am helps dictate my response. But that doesn’t make the work itself about me. That my response to “Showgirls” is to seek it out and laugh at it rather than avoid it, or cringe through it, or whatever, is about me. But that doesn’t make the film “Showgirls” about me.
        
        I think the better argument is “It’s about us all because she says so.” Fine. I can accept that. It’s obvious that’s what she intended, the poem is hardly complicated. My problem is the logic of “You responded so that means something good about the poem!” That I can’t agree with.
      - Maggie
        
        Just to be clear, I know you personally haven’t said that me responding means the poem has some kind of power. That was in reference to the others on the thread.
      - Maggie
        
        Oh, wait. Unless by “something horrific that you were part of as an observer” you mean “reading this poem,” in which case yeah, I guess this did make me suddenly vocal about it.
      - Hash
        
        You did also watch Showgirls at least once. That can be fairly traumatic in it’s own way.
      - Maggie
        
        I’ll not deny that!
      - http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
        
        And?
    - Rage
      
      It’s about everyone being human. Nobody is full demon or full angel.
  - YouBetcha
    
    Because really, aren’t we all worried about our iPhone’s battery life while hiding in the bottom of the boat? I mean, metaphorically.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Macker/518709704 Brian Macker
      
      You mean sarcastically also, I hope.
  - Maggie
    
    Oh.
    
    Then consider this my formal request to not be included as one of the subjects of this poem. Actually, can you send around an opt-out email? I know a lot of people would appreciate it.
    
    THANKS.
    - http://twitter.com/PParkTighe Patrick Park-Tighe
      
      Opt-out? That’s a luxury none of us can afford. We are all the subject of the poem and if that offends you so intensely then maybe that should inspire some soul searching. Nothing about this tragedy happened in isolation. This nightmare took seed in our community and it—sadly—played out in our community. So running away indignantly only perpetuates the disease and gives it freedom to spread and entrench itself. The difference between heroes and monsters are a thousand intangibles and the uncertainty of circumstance. But until we can come together with courage and talk honestly we’ll never understand how that strange alchemy works and we will be a less kind, more frightened society because of it.
      - Maggie
        
        It doesn’t offend me intensely in the way you’re saying. I think the things you’re saying are true – this didn’t happen in a vacuum, a person being a hero or a monster can absolutely change depending on circumstance (though I’m having a hard time picturing this exact act ever being heroic, no matter what the circumstances), and of course I think it’s important to remember that Dzhokhar is human.
        
        This particular poem, however, is flippant, shallow, trite grandstanding for attention which, given the subject matter, is what I find offensive.
      - kt
        
        Then don’t read it.
        It’s that simple.
      - Maggie
        
        How do you propose I know if I like a poem without reading it? Like, seriously. How does this work for you? I read a bunch of reviews and decide not to read something based strictly on other’s opinions? Or I develop psychic powers?
  - wilder125
    
    I think we can all agree that if you didn’t want to see reactions and comments, you wouldn’t have written the poem. So even the negative ones, I’m assuming, are giving you variety. After all, you’re obviously responding with calm and rational yet caring replies no matter who says something.
    
    Authors are always surprised when readers get something completely different from the true points of a poem, novel, article. Sometimes the surprise is good. Sometimes the surprise results in the author needing therapy after discovering the weird thought processes of a particular reader.
  - WhatIsThisShit
    
    Yeah, it’s probably about Jeff Bauman. You should write this on his prosthetic legs that he lost because this misunderstood symbol of alienation and child-killing took them from him. You know. That 19-year-old adult who killed an 8-year-old because he had no empathy for those around him nor who he would be killing. This isn’t about everyone. It’s some post-modern bullshit trying to put words and emotions into the mouth of a guy who has yet to say a word about what he did.
    - http://twitter.com/ThatDobson Nathan Dobson
      
      Side note, Dzhokhar has yet to “Say a word about what he did,” because his throat is slit. He literally cannot say anything. Probably never will be able to.
      - http://twitter.com/namelessw0nder Tasha
        
        Uh…source?
      - Christ Why
        
        Uh, the news??
      - http://twitter.com/namelessw0nder Tasha
        
        There is no indication that his throat was SLIT. His neck was injured and he has a breathing tube in place.
      - WhatIsThisShit
        
        Oh, I know. And it’s a shame. I wonder if we will ever know for sure if he tried to kill himself and failed or if the injury was a result of the shoot-out. In either case, he can still communicate with nods or with pencil and paper. Eventually we will know more about him, or at least what the police are willing to share. But what we “don’t know” (to quote a poem) is anything about Dzhokhar’s emotions, so we should definitely not be creating them for him. Thanks for your reply!
      - brabra
        
        he is writing, though. he has already been talked to and written respones, though i don’t expect we’ll know what they are , anytime soon, if ever…
      - jon
        
        too bad
  - gregoryabutler
    
    If your badly written poem is “about everyone” then it’s really about no one. If it’s about this specific guy, it’s obvious that you can’t feel his pain – I get no sense from your poem that he’s currently sitting shackled to a hospital bed with multiple gunshot wounds facing spending the rest of his life in prison or a secret CIA jail. You didn’t project that urgency in your work at all.
    - Ed
      
      The irony is that the impression I get from this poem in general and Ms. Palmer in general is that she really isn’t capable of feeling anyone’s pain. The poem shows a startling lack of empathy.
      - gregoryabutler
        
        In general, I think Amanda Palmer is monumentally self absorbed – this is just one of many examples. Remember, this is the person who raised $ 1.2 million from kickstarter, but then didn’t want to pay her backup musicians when she was on tour (she offered them hugs and beer in lieu of actual wages). I don’t think she can feel anybody’s pain but her own.
  - LOL
    
    who said
    
    “we’re all under a boat with our iPhone”?
    
    yep, that’s everyone.
    
    LOL
  - everyone?
    
    hmmm … my post got deleted. guess this blog is only about “some” people (not every one)
  - http://soundcloud.com/helloposer poser
    
    i can understand what @twitter-14755254:disqus is saying. maybe there would be less controversy over an approach like this: (for example) i wrote this song to find peace after an unexpected death. i hope it feels as good to you as it does to me. <3 http://youtu.be/aahvSXa2HyY?t=18s
    - AEB-NY
      
      Listening to it now. I love it, thank you.
  - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
    
    Ah, I want to apologize. Now that I read the title I see the poem is “for” not “about” a mass-murdering terrorist. That’s much more artistic so I’m way less offended.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Elaine-Kurpiel/100003688922056 Elaine Kurpiel
    
    I read this poem and feel it could apply to any of us. Parts of it may have been geared toward Jokhar, but I also believe that, though I truly despise what he and his brother did, there is always a reason – legitimate or not. My caring about him in no way lessens the feeling I have for all the victims, families and friends. But, again, nearly all of that poem can and does apply to most of us. Life is a journey and we need to watch for signs to show us the way. And we have to empathize with each other. Despise the action but not the person.
  - iamstephenruiz
    
    Yeah, we can all relate to this. I remember the time I thought about Vietnamese food while blowing up a child with a bomb and then hiding in someone’s boat.
    - kt
      
      No but I think the point is that you may have thought about the former the same way someone who thought about the latter did.
  - Hmmidontthinkso
    
    He should never even rate, I’m sorry, but his actions are his own. Don’t give him relavence. He was evil. People who read this drivel have no brain, no morals, no sense of community, just me, me, me. Get over it and do something worth value.
    - broken
      
      Regardless of whether we want them to have relevance or not, evil people do shape our world. They give us a chance to respond to their cruelty and remind us work to improve our world together. I am in no way whatsoever excusing what he did. It was awful and he should have to take responsibility.
      
      Poetry can be analyzed in many different ways. I don’t think it was at all reasonable for Amanda to assume that she wouldn’t receive backlash against this poem. Art is subjective. We each get something different out of it. If one person hated it, and another loved it, that’s their prerogative. I, personally, did not like this poem (as a piece of art). However, I do appreciate that it (as a statement piece) has made people talk, think, and argue about the relevancy, significance, and appropriateness of the work. It is important for us not to forget how we feel at this moment: all the outrage, all the sadness, all the pain – it’s something the victims will have to carry with them the rest of their lives.
  - Ed
    
    Please never write a poem about yourself and put my name in the title, OK?
    - bigstone
      
      No need to worry I sure the only time she will think about you is to dismiss you
      - APfansR_Idiots
        
        Good puppy! Now run to mommy and drink your kool-aid!
  - Emily
    
    All I’ve ever seen you do in the media is make things about you. You are obsessed with yourself and your “art.”
    - Rage
      
      No worries Amanda, SHE DOESN’T EVEN GO HERE.
  - http://www.facebook.com/steven.blair.9022 Steven Blair
    
    The only offensive thing about the poem is that is sounds as if Judy Jetson wrote it from inside a 7th graders holo-brain. ( In the future kids try to affect pretensious empathy after the Great Vagrant War destroyed the Homeless KIng)
  - http://www.facebook.com/marlo.ricciardi Marlo Miller Ricciardi
    
    What a twit you are. Pure brainwashed Obamabot. I’ll bet your mother is sooooo proud (sarc).
  - Keith
    
    It certainly isn’t about me. I would never consider murdering innocent people. I also would never try to show how a murderer is somehow humane. Some people are just evil. Plain and simple.
  - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
    
    You’re assuming that everyone thinks alike. The whole point of his subscribing to a violent revolutionary ideology was that he wanted to think DIFFERENTLY.
    And by the way, as an self-exhibiting opinionated woman, you were high on his notional kill list.
- http://twitter.com/Personal_key Jade V
  
  “I write to give myself strength. I write to be the characters that I am not. I write to explore all the things I’m afraid of. ”
  
  ― Joss Whedon
  - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
    
    Yeah, but that’s precisely what Amanda Palmer HASN’T done. If she honestly explored Dzokhar’s character, she’d have to deal with the Islamic-terrorist motives animating him, and that might involve facing something a lot scarier than generic violent teenage alienation. Since, of course, women like Amanda Palmer are specifically among their targets.
    - a_lethe_ia
      
      she didnt write about him. she wrote about “you”. so about us. all
      
      and.. well if you see at the age-graphs of poor islamic countries, you might see that the islamic terrorist movement might be fueled by a lot of teenage-alienation. alienation and hate stems from war, poorness and colonization, carefully picked up by radical people, nurtured and bred and then gave back. and to more people. young guys, some well educated but wth no job who see theyr land in flames because some people lied about WMD and such. and there is more of it. and yeah, religion. our opium. can go good, can do horribly, horribly wrong in the hand of poor, angry young guys.
      - http://www.facebook.com/yolande.liddy Yolande Liddy
        
        I’m sorry, but these two brothers were not living in ‘poor islamic countries’…they were living in the US with all of the freedom and opportunity available to each of them. The younger was in a wonderful university, probably with a large government financial aid package, so that he could pretty much do what he wanted. he noted that he was a lifeguard and wanted to save people in one twitter post and yet this same person chooses to blow up men, women and children without even a glance back at his carnage. sorry, no sympathy here for he or his brother, only the victims and their families.
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        like dylan klebold and his buddie? like the guy at virginia tech? adam lanza? like the una bomber? like the “pro-life”-guys who bomb clinics?
        
        yeah. he said he wanted to save people. so why did he the exact opposite? (and well he isnt the only one.. father kill all their families, students shoot students, some seemingly nice guys rape if they see the chance(eg the peoson is so drunk she/he cant consent)..
        
        like them. and like that, we dont know. thats the sad thing.
        maybe there is something inside humans which can do that. ist easy to hat for-but this wont solve anything and-more important it wont prevent.(well totally preventing is impossible) but the latter is far more important to me. understand why he did it(if he did) he lives. maybe he can give answers
      - http://www.facebook.com/yolande.liddy Yolande Liddy
        
        I’m unsure what you are trying to say….I believe the Adam Lanza’s, klebold/harris, etc. are as much terrorists as these two, maybe for different reasons, but terrorists nonetheless. Any individual, regardless of their reasons, who decides that blowing up or shooting up innocent people to avenge whatever grievances they hold are terrorists. Sure, we can ask him to explain why he did it, but psychologists have been trying to understand for years why certain people have no empathy for their victims. Luckily for society, as a whole, their numbers are small, however, for every victim of these random, calculated acts of violence, there is no amount of understanding that will heal their pain. My problem with Ms. Palmer’s thesis for her poetry is why she didn’t try and see it from the victim’s perspective as opposed to the perpetrator.
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        well,
        i think-or i am the opinion that the things, they have done are
        terribly terribly wrong and that there need to be consequences. But
        only this wont change anything. saying “they are terrorist,
        these people ARE like that” is too easy-and i believe that this
        might not help in preventing such things.
        
        iknow, there are a few people who are, for example born with severe
        psychopathy, but the most killer or terrorist are, jeah, normal
        people who become that kind of killer-monstar-sadistic-person(well,
        sometimes they aren’t sadistic, sometimes they are..). and that’s
        the scary thing-that you get normal people to do.. but to know what
        got them, you have to ask. you have to put your moral system aside
        and try to delve into their heads, life and thoughts to understand
        why these people thought it were right-or maybe just necessary to do
        this. (i say necessary because this reminds me of a book i read, but
        its German and i don’t think it got out in English, but there is
        some book with a similar theme, called “Ordinary Men. Reserve
        Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland,” by
        Christopher browning. it deals with exactly that question, which has
        been asked gazillion times in our life.. “what has to happen
        until a seemingly or real “normal” human becomes a
        mass-murderer. here its about the einsatzgruppen in Poland, during
        Unternehmen Barbarossa and executed Jews. Mothers, children, old men,
        everybody-they had to dig a big hole, then strip naked, lay down, get
        shot, after that, the next had to lay down, on the body of the
        other…and, well, these people who shot-were normal guys. policemen
        who had sworn to protect people, not to murder them. even if they had
        to shoot little crying children, they carried on(although they felt
        horrible the first time(and if they had to shoot a child which looked
        like theirs), but they felt also that this was a time and state where
        no intervention could be made-maybe, that was a though, was dzokhar
        in that situation because he SEEMED to me not very characteristic for
        that what we know about islamic terrorist-derps (and i think stated
        that his brother had the plan and all this) maybe he got caught in
        and hadn’t the guts to get out? i dont know-i know and deeply feel
        that what he has done is wrong. i mean, i cant even eat animals
        because i hate violence-but is was one time someone who was very
        violent, but i got better. maybe that’s why? i often thought about
        killing but some day realized with help of a very precious friend,
        that this is the wrong thing to do, even if world is shit and had not
        treated me well. so maybe we´ll need to understand comes from that
        place-and as i said the point that i am sure is, that knowing the
        mind state of these people can help to prevent this. and being
        empathetic too-but not about dzhokhar alone, but about other things.
        about some beggar on the street, about the person with bruises you
        meet and know he/she was lying about falling down stairs (these
        people often want to talk) about a the loud scrams and crying out of
        the flat next to yours.. there are so much possibilities to chance
        something to better-and even if that person don’t want help right
        know, trying is important-maybe we can prevent a killer like this by
        helping victims of abuse to get out of the situation. if we stand our
        for another, defend the classmate against the bullies and stand up if
        we see sexual harassment, racism or other hate, and even if its only
        to show “you are not alone, there are people on this world who
        are good. so no need for destroying it to fit ist to you..”
        
        and something other I wondered here- I think the people who clearly
        despise the poems.. well, some of them use really demeaning language,
        they try to act like psycho-docs and call her crazy or ill
        (narcissistic-by someone who says he knows her and is capable do
        diagnose serious psychological illnesses via internet.) they use
        strawmen to imply things she never said or wrote, sometimes they act
        straight up and try to insult or offend her by writing the idiotic
        things people write if they are hurt and in anger and try to stop
        that shitty feeling.(well, I know what shit I did,so I understand,
        but I reprove that(like the bs I did in the times I didn´t had
        myself under control enough)they try to degrade her(by using strawmen
        or by implying she does write with ill intent and I don’t mean
        people like you who can articulate and criticize without slipping
        down on unfair words and try to act their fear and-well anger (and I
        understand all of that) out on her because she has dared to have
        empathy with someone other people consider unworthy for that (which
        is okay because nobody forced them to have empathy for that kinda
        people-but some of them act like she had and would play to install
        mind-controlling to bring us all into loin dzhokhar and approving
        terrorism…)
        
        well,my point is.. why we can´t we behave like adult people and voice our
        anger or compassion or whatever in a way which would be deemed
        appropriate by our grandmas, grandpas and the queen of England?
        
        guh that’s long. i think i might
        (okay, the latter.. but this cant be that hard-well its the internet,
        but it shouldn’t be that hard..gah)
        
        well I believe I made a few errors- I am not very good at tense, so often I mix the wrong past-tenses together and then its strange, but well, I am a non native speaker, I am allowed too^^
- Karina S
  
  Dzhokhar was not an evil person down to the core; I don’t think anyone
  truly is. The poem isn’t about Palmer’s empathy for him, although it’s
  not your right not tell her that her empathy is invalid. It’s about
  humanizing. If we write off people who do terrible things for the sole
  reason that they were heartless and sick and inhuman, all we’re doing is
  denying our own potential to turn into monsters. What I read from this
  poem is that just because a person does horrific things, it doesn’t
  mean they are no longer a person. All the media coverage and news
  stories are very alienating, and lots of people lose sight of the fact
  that this was a kid, a kid who was once happy and had friends, but
  somehow got confused and angry, and maybe he was sick or someone took
  advantage of him. I think Palmer is trying to express this dichotomy
  between Tsarnaev’s disgusting actions and the good part of him that is
  probably still there. If we don’t acknowledge the human in everyone,
  it’s too easy to write off people like the Tsarnaev’s as monsters, and
  then we end up ignoring the root of the problem, which is within us and
  society. And the first step to solving a problem is admitting there is
  one.
  - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
    
    I never said he was evil. I never said her empathy was invalid. I never said we shouldn’t humanize this person.
    
    It’s just not true empathy or humanization if you invent someone’s feelings and then empathize with them.
    
    As an example: Say that his true feelings are a tremendous sense of accomplishment – he and his brother successfully produced bombs, avoided getting picked up before the marathon day, pulled off the explosions, he went back to school for several days and went to the gym, partied with friends, etc, and avoided suspicion until Friday’s events. That takes a tremendous amount of skill and ingenuity, and perhaps his true feelings are that he’s proud that it worked, he’s mourning his brother, and he’s angry that he didn’t manage to commit suicide or commit another attack before being captured. Do you think he would read this poem and feel empathized? Feel humanized? Feel really understood?
    
    I’m not saying we should assume that my hypothetical is the true situation, but I think that her poem is a complete fiction with a real person’s name attached to it, and that it’s been written without many of the insights that will come with time.
    - McDuff
      
      Congratulations, you just declared all literature about historical figures invalid. The police in charge of ensuring only acceptable art gets written would like to thank you for your service.
      - BeeJACKS22
        
        It’s called common sense and sound judgment, 2 things you clearly lack. No police action, self-regulation.
      - anon
        
        there’s art, there’s literature; and there’s bad writing. no police needed to know this is bad writing.
      - Hash
        
        There’s bad writing and there’s writing you don’t like. Is this a good/bad poem? Debatable. Does a certain percentage of reader not like it? Indisputable. I think Larry the Cable Guy is just awful, and yet he not only exists but is also a millionaire, not that I’m comparing the two but I’m certain you get my point. Black Licorice.
      - anon
        
        what is your point — millionaire = what?
      - Hash
        
        One would assume it equals popularity, but I’m hard pressed to find anyone who likes his work. Popular does not necessarily equal good just as unpopular does not necessarily equal bad.
    - albe
      
      well, a poem does not have to be true because art doesn’t have to talk about reality by means of reality. In my opinion it is about having the chance to think differently (no reference intended). Seeing things from another point, higher, lower, equal, whatever. Media relates facts and has the duty to tell what is true. But beside facts and truth, there is human. Indeed, you cannot tell what Djokhar really felt/feels, and that is the point, remind you do not, and you cannot judge. Well, at least that is how I read it. Djokhar is a name, a poem is an idea, and I don’t read it as if it were talking about him as human, but more as some kind of symbol. History and people will never be able to tell us his real thougths and feelings. this is a water drop in the ocean.
    - 4-Q-2
      
      Wow….Really support this guy don’t you?? You think he is a hero I bet…?
      Poor cowardly sap never got that second chance to kill..or how did you put it??
      
      “That takes a tremendous amount of skill and ingenuity, and perhaps his true feelings are that he’s proud that it worked, he’s mourning his brother, and he’s angry that he didn’t manage to commit suicide or commit another attack before being captured.”
      - http://twitter.com/PatriotLand Daniel
        
        But yes he did get a second chance to kill, and then the innocent little children murdered the security officer in cold blood.
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285020134 James Hoggatt
      
      Amanda doesn’t present this as truth, she presents it as discussion. I bet you money, however; that many of these thoughts were thought by him, because they are human thoughts. They are natural thoughts one would think.
      
      Assuming that Amanda is trying to paint a wholly accurate or wholly complete picture is reading way beyond what you are presented here. Amanda posits ideas, not truths. Perhaps you should show some restraint in reading beyond whats on that page.
      
      However, you did play her game, you added to the discussion. In that way, your reaction is everything she wanted and more. It made you think. Your truth is different from her truth, which is different from my truth, and different from his truth. That is the point, we see different things in each other from afar.
      - http://www.facebook.com/kelly.adlington.33 Kelly Adlington
        
        Thanks for being a respectful voice in this debate. You’re so right…the whole point is discussion, from any side present.
      - JINNASH
        
        Your point is worthless. She cares more about her “feelings” than what actually happened. Classic sign of immaturity.
    - Keith
      
      No. The guy was evil. He killed innocent people including a child. That’s evil. I don’t care what his motivations or thoughts were. He’s evil.
      - nj_v2
        
        U.S. drone strikes authorized by Obama in Yemen, Pakistan, and elsewhere kill innocent people and children. Is the person who pushes the “fire” button evil? Is Obama evil?
      - http://twitter.com/stupidjerkface Hmph.
        
        Blaming bad things that happen on “evil” is as much of a copout as blaming it on the Devil. Same as calling them “monsters.” Nope, they’re human, and Americans, and that means we should probably try to figure out why these things happen in the first place. A magical force called evil is just something we have to shrug and live with, and that’s bullshit.
    - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
      
      It’s just not true empathy or humanization if you invent someone’s feelings and then empathize with them.
      Exactly. It’s as if I write a story about Jesse James and tried to “humanize” him by claiming he was fighting for racial equality. Considering that JJ started his career as a Confederate guerilla raider with Quantrill’s band, this would to say the least NOT be about Jesse James, but rather about some violent fantasy of my own.
  - Vertebrae8
    
    Let’s see if you say that when the perp is a young racist white male militant Christian fundamentalist who assassinates an abortion provider, or something. I guess it all depends on how cute he is?
    - BeeJACKS22
      
      But he wasn’t. But there is an abortion clinic in Philly where babies out of the womb were murdered and left for dead that you could look into if it concerns you so much.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1558645006 Lori McLeod Wilke
        
        Will Amanda write a poem for those murdered babies…the one that survived the abortion and was flailing about in a toilet until the nurse reached in and severed his spinal cord?
      - http://www.facebook.com/lisa.winne.clark60 Lisa Clark
        
        No; rather, she will write about Kermit Gosnell, as if he’s some hero; even though he’s such a bad person that he now has been condemned by pro-abortion rights groups.
    - anon
      
      oh, you mean eric rudolph?
    - http://www.facebook.com/yolande.liddy Yolande Liddy
      
      so do you somehow believe that if these two brothers were blonde with blue eyes people would somehow overlook their carnage or try and explain it away…..prior to our knowledge of these two, plenty of people on the left were saying it must be a tea partier whose upset about paying more taxes while those on the right were hoping for a jihadist that looked like bin laden. a killer, a jihadist, a school shooter, you name it, they are all terrorists in their own way and these two, no matter what their list of grievances, were nothing more than that.
  - BeeJACKS22
    
    He is an evil Phuck and deserves to die for blowing up 8 year old Michael Richard. He put the bag right next to him. Leave the earth as soon as possible please.
    - AshleyNoel
      
      It’s Martin Richard…
  - JINNASH
    
    Your type of ignorance(Naive?) is what gets good people killed. I hope you are not any type of decision maker. I don’t really care about Amanda’s emotional state. This childish type of smug nonense is why she is not to be respected. My feeling are for those who lost life or limb. It time for the whiny nonsense to get out of the way to that us adults can make decisions without having to put up with the likes of you and Amanda.
    - stormypink
      
      “It time for the whiny nonsense to get out of the way to that us adults can make decisions without having to put up with the likes of you and Amanda.”
      Oh thank God for you adults and next time say it without typos—you a**hole
      - JINNASH
        
        Typos are a part of life, and a small one at that. Because of your selfishness and immaturity, you are still are still unqualified to make decisions.
  - http://www.facebook.com/jim.harvey.980 Jim Harvey
    
    MURDERING an 8 year old boy and tearing the legs from his sister as well as maiming and amputating limbs from other INNOCENT people and you say he’s not evil? What, in your universe then WOULD qualify as evil? I’m curious.
  - susy
    
    Do you feel the same sympathy toward someone who brutally kills a gay person?
    - Paige
      
      Empathy and sympathy are different things. And yes, that murderer must have had a very confusing and sad upbringing to have behaved so monstrously.
  - anon
    
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    
    The motivation for his killing was love. He believed that non-muslims are monsters – non-muslims are sending people to eternal damnation.
    
    +++++++++++++++++++
- JJ
  
  From a writer’s perspective i read this with a crushing indifference; from a human perspective I read this and really wished I hadn’t.
  - http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
    
    Not sure if you are refering to the poem or my thoughts on it, apologies if I caused any crushing indifference!
    - Anon
      
      sympathy for terrorists? yikes! Yeah, no I think I liked Amanda better when she was in the Dresden Dolls. This is just too freaky for me.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285020134 James Hoggatt
        
        Its not sympathy, its a reminder that even ‘monsters’ are human. If we just dismiss him as just a psychopathic monster then we never stop to really ask what drove the person who ate the same lunch that I do (spring rolls) to do such horrific things.
        
        We know what he did, and sure there will be motive. But I think Amanda and many other people including myself, want to know what turns people into agents of death instead of agents of war.
        
        Motive is not the only part of the question. We will put names and places around him, but I am curious as why all those parts turned into this.
      - Anon
        
        One day you go on a crusade against bullying (which is awesome! thumbs way up!). Next day it is telling us that these same bullies are human beings worthy of apologist rhetoric and we should care about their motivation(s) as they carry WMD into crowds of innocent people? Amanda and Bieber should date.
      - Anon
        
        So then are the kids who were bullied to the point where they felt the need to shoot up their school also just demons whose motivations and feelings we should disregard as we further dehumanize them?
      - anon
        
        No, now they will be held accountable for their actions before the eyes of the court and by the laws of the land. We need justice to solve these social issues, not more your of your misplaced bleeding-heart nonsense. Honestly, I think Paris Hilton did a better job at drumming up publicity for herself than virtually scuttling her entire career to gain notoriety. This kind of terror-apologist misguided sympathy is quite sickening and offensive to ordinary people. If you want to “piss-christ” your way into the press, you quite certainly have succeeded today. I’m shocked and embarrassed that some of you would prefer that we should take advantage of a terrible unfortunate situation to bolster attention to some imaginary “cause” hoping to receive donations and make money when people have lost their only loved ones and are suffering from this very real tragedy. Maybe you are just desperate enough to take advantage of anything you can to make yourselves more powerful, when in fact, you are supporting the very bullies you condemned last month. I don’t really think you stand for anything except yourselves and your personal gain, publicity, notierty, and the fleeting power you attain from these kinds of pseudo intellectual piss-christ antics. I feel sorry for you.
      - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
        
        Piss-Christ indeed. I’d be more impressed if she were willing to offend against Islam than against Boston.
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        why, there are enough people in media who are do it, specially in usa where free speech and the asshole-ism which people think of as free speach goes by partly ignored. srs, with ppl like that geller-loon and enough of them in the republican (and surly democrats as well) party, with enough of that here in europe (wilders, sarrazin, the 7% which the nazi-party in greece, (now they go out at night and beat immigrants half-to full-death, but its crisis and that’s what people do-beating the one under them, not the one at the top who had a part in economic crisis.. and all the right wing semi-dictators (hungary, bye bye democracy i say)
        
        and there is the internet and such.. so if you serach for antiislamic and islam-critic stuff you will find. but maybe not at the homepage of amanda palmer who has little to no ground to write something this kind because i dont think shes that kind of a journalist or a critic of religions. so why should they and what do you want here if you know this here is not yu cup of tea?
        just because you want to read this, nobody has it to write for you? and, free speech goes for people with other opinions too^^
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        and against Boston? dud, that’s a city. city cant be offended. my car and my flat cant be offended how much i write poems about their shittiness.(if i write some poem about my annoying shitty egoistic neighbour who tortures me with his shitty music at 3 am, he might be offended if he reads. so..little difference i know, but there is)^^
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Kilpatrick/1109772025 Mike Kilpatrick
        
        Your shitty poem can’t be as bad as having a flat cunt. That must be dreadful.
      - Jenny Hand
        
        Jordan. No wonder your profile picture is a dog.
      - DL
        
        As far as I’ve noticed, the suspect (which is what he is) is already being tried and found guilty, guilty, guilty (“Hang them!”) by the media and the press, rather than being held accountable before the eyes of the courts, into which he should surely enter as innocent until proven guilty, no?
      - http://www.facebook.com/tsondru Logan Morton
        
        Wow, you really have a strong need that is not being met. I’m sorry to say that I haven’t really received one thing from your rants that are of value, in terms of allowing me to connect with you and what’s important to you. I hope some day that there could be a greater cultural awareness of the destructive and alienating nature of criticism and blame, how they limit and stagnate our perceptions of each other and create violence. In such a world, tragedies like this could be avoided more often.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803683287 Paul White
        
        If you think Amanda is ridiculous to imagine that this man was a real person with real feelings, motivations, and a history, then you are equally ridiculous to imagine that he wasn’t and didn’t.
      - Kimberly Gibson
        
        So very true. The problem is that what she wrote is based entirely upon the assumption of guilt. She can assume all she likes, but he’s still innocent until proven guilty. Based on tremendous amounts of reasonable doubt evidence, they’ll probably kill him before they’ll be able to FAIRLY convict him.
      - James Spader
        
        Sorry, that’s mostly a myth. Bullied kids stay victims, they don’t become the killers. The bullies are the killers.
        
        Except for Adam Lanza. He’s the only one who ever paid for what he bought. But then he shot up the wrong school.
      - captdot
        
        “…the kids who were bullied to the point where they felt the need to shoot up their school”. As I see it, herein lies the problem. This statement reads as though there is justification for such acts. We have been inured to violence, many times looking for something to blame. The culture of violence is ubiquitous in the large urban areas – Chicago, Philadelphia, LA, etc. – Gang murders are blamed on isolation, frustration, disintegration of the family – anything to take some of the blame off the perpetrator. This is wrong. There is NO justification for murder.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Kilpatrick/1109772025 Mike Kilpatrick
        
        Yes their isolated…by being in a gang.
      - Mark
        
        By all accounts the lead Columbine shooter wasn’t actually bullied, in fact he was reasonably popular and bullied other kids. The bullying thing was just a nice-sounding narrative the media ran with. The kid was actually just a hateful narcissistic psychopath, there’s no value to trying to empathise with him or understand his motives.
      - xtine
        
        well, she’s married to Neil Gaiman, but they do have an open relationship. not sure if she’s Bieber’s type though
      - disqus_ptH8mjfIDn
        
        But you know Neil Gaiman and Dzhokhar actually do look pretty similar, give or take 30 years or so.
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        yes. because its neither onl one of that. its both, in a part. i believe that most violent people (i was one myself-not bully, though, but none the better) are really unhappy with their, our shitty way of coping. yes, there are people who are sadists and who have fun. and there are people who cant feel any empathy. but even these people started somewhere. 99% of violent people arent violent by nature. there are so many other things, but one of them-society-we can chance. at least try.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Kilpatrick/1109772025 Mike Kilpatrick
        
        Ok this made no sense at all. Interesting concept the violent non bully. Aggressive public
        masturbation?
      - stormypink
        
        Forgive if you wish to be forgiven.
      - AlwaysPeanuts
        
        It’s impossible to know what drives someone to cast carnage and sorrow upon others because nothing will make sense to us, and they will not provide us clues. But sympathizing with terrorists and murderers is appalling. The people we SHOULD be writing poems for are the victims and the people who put their lives at risk to save others. What Dzhokhar did was selfish and unempathatic. He killed without regard to who was there. This was not a revenge crime or a crime targeting a person who had done him wrong – it was merely attacking innocents, and as many innocents as he could. Let’s not put him on a pedestal of “oh he’s just misunderstood!” The only reason we should try to understand him is to prevent this from happening again, not to sympathize with him.
      - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
        
        I think what really got me was the expression of sympathy with Dzokhar for being waterboarded, which is really funny because apparently he’s going to be treated as a civilian, so he won’t be waterboarded. Note that this is essentially a cookie-cutter version of “sympathy” — it’s being plugged into the situation without regard for the facts of the case. Just as the list of motivations being assigned by Palmer to Dzokhar apply to some generic model of an “alienated terrrorist” — we could make him a 1970’s IRA member or a 1950’s Mau Mau without changing any of the lines.
        In other words, it’s all about Palmer: Dzhokhar and the suffering he and his brother inflicted are just the excuse. Which is why it’s so morally offensive.
      - stormypink
        
        you don’t know how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is until they hold your head under the water
        This line could be seen as a promise or a semi-threat, not sympathy
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Kilpatrick/1109772025 Mike Kilpatrick
        
        Or just an embarrassing lack of talent?
      - stormypink
        
        When did Amanda say he was misunderstood?
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        We should be writing poems for whomever we please. There are no rules in poetry.
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        We should be writing poems for whomever we please. There are no rules in poetry.
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        We should be writing poems for whomever we please. There are no rules in poetry.
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        We should be writing poems for whomever we please. There are no rules in poetry.
      - Kirsten Petersen
        
        We should be writing poems for whomever we please. There are no rules in poetry.
      - Sam Houston
        
        It was the spring rolls that made him do it. Think about it before you utter criticism. Can’t you see that the spring roll represents the antithesis of the Draconian Noir. With foresight shattered to decipherable indignation for the soulless claxton of our ephemeral youth, the young nave procured forth into the succubus of Liberal epitome. The King’s transom lay forth in his White castle to wretched the forthcoming lacquer of a righteous taught. Oh bosom, stay thine contentious journey.
      - http://www.facebook.com/jordan.bassior Jordan Bassior
        
        His motive appears to have been Islamic jihad, based upon his own statements and those of his brother made prior to the attacks they carried out. I would trust their own statements as to their motives over random speculations regarding them. As for the deeper inner psychology, the poem is not about that, it’s about Amanda Palmer’s own fantasies regarding them.
        Here, I’ll put it another way. Amanda Palmer just culturally appropriated Chechen Islamic jihad and wrote a poem about it. And if we can sit through the poem, the Vogons will spare our lives.
      - Guest
        
        Please educate your self on what “jihad” is before using it as part of a racial insult.
      - stormypink
        
        Get spell check too !!!
      - a_lethe_ia
        
        its strange that htheir fb pages arent the kind one would expect from these violent- jihadi types.. drinking alcohol and having party wand watching western stuff doesnt fits into the “i am so much holier than thou”attitude these people (well, at least the salafi/whahabi-gyus/gals i know-but these aren´t violent, only ultra orthodox)
        
        well, i think his older brother might gotten into that cult and well, family ties (like this sniper in, what was it?new york, which worked together with his brother too.. often they ahave deep relationship and somewhat power over the younger-or maybe he complicited and they got themself deeper and deeper.-the neigbours, kids from the school and the family was very shocked because these-like school schooter were considered friendly and nice.. (well, like the dads who abuse their children, or the priest or, wll, most perpetrator who maintain some nice sides and then a kind of beast within..)
        
        i wouldt say chechen islamist-they got away the older brother was one or such-so he might had ties to other chechen-community, but tthey dont seem nationalistic, they dont have any text or such bullshit (al qiuadia and taliban are after bombings very prod of themdelf and wave their virtual dicks in glory-but these two? no manifesto unlike breivig who shot almost 80 kids, no tasteless-film like the nsu who shot 10 people… or like the una bomber or most of the very white, very american terrorist-most like to boast about their bullshit. (and well, how many people write down bullshit without intending to do`look at youtube and if you want to believe every user, we need more armies than we have people^^
        
        but-well. nothing is proven.. its very possible, but 100% sure? i dunno. so lets wait..
        
        and remember the hundreds of death people in other countries who didnt wanted to die either but are lagely ignored just because they aren´t (mostlywhite) americans and for the media, 3 dead Americans are more worth that 200 dead iraqui people. sad but it it, what it is.
        
        (btw people from syria have shown their condolence)^^
      - http://twitter.com/just1again Nancy Mattice
        
        Thank you, James. And than you, Amanda. I have been feeling “off”. Of course it is because of the horror of the bombing, but it is also because of an uneasiness that come from asking the same questions that you so. How does someone get to this place? This cannot be what he always intended to make his legacy. In 5th grade Dzhokhar didn’t say ” I want to make bombs and kill people when i grow up”. Inside the killer is a human being .
        There is a certain essence of humanness we all share. But lets not kid ourselves, acts of violence are carried out every day, whether by words, guns,IEDs, or drones. In an impressionable , angsty mind, who knows how this can be twisted to make something so horrifically wrong seem like a reasonable action.
        This is not sympathy on my part for a terrorist. This is just confusion and sadness about the human condition. Sometimes I wonder what that condition really is in its pure state.
      - GoodGravey
        
        So much anger in these comments. And I guess I understand it. But what I DONT accept, ever, is this perverted attitude in so many to refuse to ask the really tough questions. Not “Why did he do this?” but “How did we reach this point?”
        
        Most people don’t want to go there because it requires them to look at themselves, and not liking what they see, they shut it out and cry “monster”.
        
        So done mentioned his motives were “jihadist”. That’s not going deep enough. Why? Why did he have those motives? What is it about us that seems to engender such hatred?
        
        “Justice” otherwise known as the penal system because there is no true justice there, isn’t a solution. Understanding the deep root of these problems is the key to solving it.
        
        Inside all of us is a monster, just waiting for the right (or maybe wrong) set of circumstances to come out. Every single one of us is capable of doing these deeds. If this is “all about AFP” then it is because she is demonstrating her realisation of this.
        
        For some of you, the hate spilling from you is the perfect example of why this happened.
      - GoodGravey
        
        PS. sorry Nancy, that was meant to be supportive of YOU. Realised it didn’t read like that.
      - Luke
        
        You will never be able to fathom what went wrong in this kid’s brain. By engaging in speculation that you “eat the same food as him” you simply state that he is like any other human but some greater or lesser event in his life caused an adverse reaction in his internal circuitry. Even so, why do you want to compare yourself with this lunatic? Do you fancy killing 8 year old children and permanently maiming over a hundred more? While anatomically speaking, you are correct, “monsters are human,” but any “human” who desires so unleash such agony on fellow humans is simply a martyr for some unknown cause.
        
        By showing compassion for this troubled soul, you simply play right into his hand. He wanted attention, but was too psychologically impaired to achieve it in a normal way, just like the rest of us. You will probably never be able to determine why he would do something like this… And if you were to figure it out, it certainly wouldn’t be as a result of throwing profanities into poetry and calling it art.
      - underthunder
        
        It’s a mistake, and one of the most tragic ones of our age, to say that compassion is the same as justification of someone’s actions. Compassion is one of the essential things that make us fully human, and yet is sadly missing in public discourses like these. That poor young man is living eighteen flavors of hell right now whether he can even begin to fully feel them or not, and to understand that and have compassion for it is not to excuse or somehow justify his brutally unjust and violent act.
        
        Don’t be so scared of caring about all people; it won’t kill you. But not caring, or even worse, wishing harm and loss and pain and suffering on others, will yes kill us all. There’s no contradiction between Justice and compassion. Trust me (or don’t, but take some time to see what others more articulate than I have said, and then look in your heart and see what you find).
        
        And yes, the studies are in and the research is overwhelming: a common and frequent response to past abuse and unhealed trauma is to become an abuser and inflict trauma on others. It’s not the only response, but with the exception of the small portion who are genuinely psychotic, all those who do this stuff have had it done to them in some form. As they say, “you could look it up”.
        
        You really want to stop these horrific acts? Start creating a just and livable society, founded on decency respect, and genuine opportunity and equality – and I will put my life savings on “black” to say we’ll see a massive reduction more than anything else we could possibly try.
        
        But yeah; that’s a lot harder than calling people names and slinging hate around. Easier to point fingers and claim “those people” are not like “us”, even when “we” never have lived through what they have and have no idea how we would respond if we had.
      - Ter
        
        Was this really about death though? How many deaths were there? Who is to say it was not simply for the thrill of the power he had in that moment, the terror, the sensations, the pictures of his face, and the legacy he left behind. I feel like it this was a death thing, there would have been more of it. It is important to still have empathy.
      - Jim
        
        Mmmm, maybe not so human.
      - Jenny Hand
        
        James. I agree with you.
      - Kimberly Gibson
        
        There is always more than one side to every story. Neither you nor Amanda will find the answers you’re looking for in Jahar. You’ve accepted, obviously without question or even the tiniest bit of homework on your part, the illusion of a monster created by both the government and the media. And despite what the government, media, and American people have done to him, I still doubt you’d find in Jahar, a monster today. At 56, one of the greatest lessons I’ve learned….question what you’re told, see, hear and expected to believe. What is the motive behind the teller? To what extremes will they go to move their agenda ‘forward’? We were once a great country and last time I checked, still innocent until proven guilty.
      - http://twitter.com/QueenxNina Nina Burns
        
        “Sing for the terrorists” was a Dresden Dolls lyric.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tsondru Logan Morton
        
        When people do not receive empathy, they terrorize.
      - POLONIUS
        
        When people do not respect their own intelligence; they make mistakes. And empathy without intelligence is blissful ignorance. And coincidentally, that is how some people tend to make a very good living off of other people’s misery.
        
        “This above all: to thine own self be true.”
        
        This means you!
      - http://twitter.com/IAmYourVampire Gracie
        
        “Sing for the president. Sing for the terrorists. Sing.”
      - Ably
        
        He is innocent. There is no proof against but proof for him. Just research before you believe the media’s lies.
  - Anonymous
    
    I’m no poet, or author, or english major, but where does this speak of amanda? Yes she’s painting the picture against the view of the reader in saying “you don’t know…”, but last time i checked you can write something outside of your own beings inside the story or poem. JK Rowling ISN’T Harry Potter…
- http://www.facebook.com/kymberlee.dellaluce Kymberlee della Luce
  
  I hear the critical thinking you’re doing here. I have to say that I don’t really see how Amanda is making anything about her OR even making it about him. Art is transpersonal. Also, we all see life through different filters.
  
  I have a hard time understanding the need for criticism here unless it’s just a need to find something to attack when one is feeling powerless. I think we’ve all see that type of behavior fairly recently.
- http://twitter.com/mattaukamp matt aukamp
  
  It appears, by this post, that you don’t know much about what writing is about… Or why people do it.
- http://www.facebook.com/thecoppo Paul Coppolelli
  
  it’s called a persona poem. it’s a valid poetic device. you might want to try it sometime. pick someone you despise, and try and get inside their head, try to feel the human roots of everything you despise about them. then write it.
  
  it may not bear any relation to the reality of that person, but the exercise expands your ability to appreciate the fact that we are ALL human.
- Schmiggles
  
  This poem. Once seen, cannot be unseen. I think I’d rather watch paint dry…..
- Layla
  
  You mean the Boston Bombing WASNT about me?
- stormypink
  
  you think these are Dzjokhar’s thoughts? You think he’s upset about 2% milk or where are my friends or how there is a misspelled word on the computer file name of a person sitting near him at a cafe?
- BigAustin
  
  @twitter-14755254:disqus you said it much more eloquently than I. +1
- loulou
  
  diggingellen, I love you!
- http://twitter.com/artfulgaby Gaby Smith
  
  Artist do imagine how others feel, that’s part of the “job”.
- http://www.facebook.com/tsondru Logan Morton
  
  Wait, who is being presumptuos again?
- http://twitter.com/kenna Kenna
  
  Your message if probably the most human message I’ve ever read for the longest time.
- 1000’s to hell or one?
  
  each non-muslim leads 1000’s of people to eternal hell.
  
  Is it crueler to kill one person or
  
  to allow 1000’s to be lead into hell?
  
  I propose he did this act of LOVE for the 1000’s being led to hell.
- ShutUpperofGayFags
  
  Shut the fuck up,
- Rick
  
  Fearless self expression is a rare virtue…we were all ready to jump on board once the ship was built…naysayers and quiet friends alike. Let’s remember Amanda cast her feelings into a torrent of rage, fear and confusion when few of us would commit to publishing any original perspective. It was, for most of us, just easier to use her words and feelings as a launch-pad for our boisterous, and many times, insensitive comments.
  
  Thank you Amanda for “a writing” that started this dialog…now forty-five days has passed and all of us are better for the interaction. We spoke our mind, showed our fears and looked within….we loved, hated, agreed, and despised you with passion (and occasional indifference)—but all-in-all, it was great to travel the path from your mind down to your heart…
  
  As always, best….
- mindy
  
  It’s titled A Poem FOR Dzjokhar, not A Poem BY Dzjokhar.
matt

Beautiful – thank you. Sanity and compassion, so rare, so needed.
As others have said, this needs to be sung.
http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.

Dzhokhar apparently lived about a block from me, in that house on Norfolk Street you probably heard about on the news. My neighborhood has been all over the TV. There were cameras and reporters and FBI and police here on Friday. I didn’t know him personally, but I must have seen him many times as just one of the many teenagers in the neighborhood. We took the same bus from the same bus stop, him to school and me to work. It’s hard for me not to think about him as a human, as a kid, and wonder what happened, what went wrong and when and why. How this could happen in my awesome little diverse neighborhood where no one cares if you are Muslim or Catholic or Jewish, black or white or Middle-Eastern or Asian or whatever you happen to be. How could you feel that alienated? I walk by the mosque they attended every time I go to the grocery store. People are friendly here. How could he hate us so much that he wanted to kill us? It’s entirely baffling to me.
- http://www.psychichealerchristine.com/ Christine Pohl-Peters
  
  I don’t believe he hated anyone. I believe he followed his brother cause he thought his brother knew best or didn’t want to lose his brother. But in the end he did.
- Damo
  
  thanks for sharing.
- Perplexed
  
  “where no one cares if you are Muslim or Catholic or Jewish, black or white or Middle-Eastern or Asian or whatever you happen to be. ”
  
  I would argue that someone cared. Cared enough to learn how to make a bomb and employ it’s use for such a horrific result.
  - http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.
    
    I dunno, if someone is killing blindly and indiscriminately it doesn’t seem to me that they are targeting people based on race or religion. They were targeting anyone who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, at an international event that draws people from many different cultures and nationalities. They injured at least one Muslim man that I have heard about.
    - http://twitter.com/fhare666 Frank Hare
      
      This is what Islamic Jihadism is about. Anyone who is not Muslim or calls themselves Muslim but is not following Sharia law is a valid target for killing, raping, and slavery. To the fundamentalists, the Koran and Hadith are not just the writings of Muhammad and his followers. They explain how you as a devout Muslim must live your life in detail: how and what to eat, how to dress, when to pray, whom to marry, how to act, etc. etc. In minute detail. Radical Islamists interpret and take literally many passages in the Koran and Hadith that they deem allow them to kill, rape, cheat, lie to, and enslave anyone who is not a fellow devout Muslim with either no or minimal penalties under Sharia. Fundamentalist Islam and modern Western society are incompatible. Fundamentalist Islamists believe capitalism and democracy, well anything but the Caliphate really, goes against God’s will, word and law, and is anathema. This is how Jihadi justify mass killing of both Infidels and Muslims alike, as long as the Muslims were not devout enough for their liking.
      - http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.
        
        But… from all reports I’ve read, Dzhokhar was not even close to being a devout Muslim. His friends all describe him as a “stoner” and said he drank a lot of alcohol, two things which are forbidden by Islam. Maybe he had a sudden change of heart very recently, but I’m not really comfortable assuming that he is a religious extremist without more evidence than “he’s a Muslim and he set off a bomb.” His brother is a different story, there is actual evidence that he was a religious extremist.
        
        I’d rather wait and hear some evidence before making judgments based solely on a stereotype. It doesn’t hurt anyone for us to wait and see before making up our minds. We are not police/FBI in charge of the investigation having to make these difficult decisions. There is no need to jump to conclusions. Many people did that about the marathon bombers and many of them were wrong.
      - http://twitter.com/fhare666 Frank Hare
        
        I understand in theory your desire for hard evidence of his piety, but there may not be any hard evidence of such a thing. People are allowed to make educated guesses, and mine is he was brainwashed into jihadism by his brother and others. By most accounts so far, this is very consistent with the events and evidence. If you’d care to put forth an alternate theory that makes some sense, I would be willing to listen.
      - http://twitter.com/fhare666 Frank Hare
        
        From CNN ( I know, not the most reliable source…):
        
        “The preliminary interviews with Tsarnaev suggest the two brothers fit the classification of self-radicalized jihadists, the government source said.
        
        Dzhokhar Tsarnaev conveyed to authorities that his brother believed Islam is under attack and its adherents must fight back, the source said.”
- witchbyrd
  
  sarah, if you are white, your perception of ‘no one caring’ about race or ethnicity or religion is basically meaningless because you are protected by your privilege.
  - http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.
    
    I’m the same color as the suspects and my religion is a much smaller minority in this neighborhood than theirs is. So I think I have at least some idea of what they might have experienced. Plus, this neighborhood is very mixed and I don’t think it is majority white (although I don’t have the demographic numbers to prove it). Lots of middle-easterners, many recent immigrants, Indians and Pakistanis, many black and Latino folks, Russians, South Americans, Portuguese. Little bit of everything.
    - witchbyrd
      
      you are from the caucasus? or you mean, you are a white person and you perceive the suspects to be white?
      - http://www.concertmanic.com/ Sarah V.
        
        Why don’t you just accuse me of whatever words you are trying to put in my mouth and save us both the trouble of you baiting me?
        
        Have a nice day.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I’ll translate- she’s saying you’re a snot-nosed privileged white cunt. Of course, she has nothing to base that upon, other than, well, “Sarah” sounds like a white girl’s name, and never mind what you say about who you are or what you look like. Please play the stereotype game.
- Coach K
  
  His uncle explained it.
  Dzhokhar is a LOSER
- Coach K
  
  His uncle answered this already.
  Dzhokhar is a LOSER.
- Coach K
  
  Uncle said it: “He’s a loser”
- wiccabasket
  
  People forget that bit. That there is something that goes wrong in the brain that makes people hate like that. That not every ‘monster’ is actually a monster all the time. That people who commit evil acts can sometimes carry out acts of kindness.
  
  It doesn’t cancel the evil out, but it should go to show that we are all capable of committing atrocities beyond our wildest imaginings. It’s not hard to do. When we ‘other’ it, we isolate it and deny it – and it makes it easier for evil to flourish.
  
  Someone mentioned the Steubenville rapists earlier on in the comments. I am a survivor. I believe that those boys committed a hideous crime that they should face punishment for. I can, however feel some empathy and wonder how kids get so fucked up that they do something so vile to another human being and then think it is ok. At some point that person was a son, a brother and a friend. I then look at the families and support network around them and wonder ‘what did you do to make them think this was ok?’.
  
  It’s not excusing it. It’s questioning why it happens so we can stop it happening again.
- Fanintheattic
  
  Why are you reposting the exact comment you made previous
Penny Dreadful

as Neil wrote, “Nobody’s creepy from the inside, Hazel. Some of them are sad, and some of them hurt, and some of them think they’re the only real thing in the whole world. But they’re not creepy.”
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  neil.
- http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
  
  I’ve known creepy people.
Lucy

Beautiful. These are the words that I’ve been struggling to put my finger on. I lost my voice among the fear. Thank you, thank you for helping me find it.
MrMainEvent

The best way to let go of hate is to spend time thinking about ways that we may be able to positively impact Dhzokar’s specific victims- not even the people that he killed but the people that survived: the carpenter who can’t use his hands anymore because of the nerve damage, a marathon runner racing for charity who had her leg amputated, an entire family of four- each now with various amputations and disabilities to deal with for the rest of their lives, etc. I urge anyone moved by this poem to seek out those stories.

It may be wrong to dwell on hating Dhzokar but it is just as wrong to assume that since we feel compassion and moments of self doubt that Dhzokar and his brother experience those same feelings in the same way.

We don’t know whether Dhzokar knew the way to New York. But we do know that he knew the way to Cambridge, Watertown and the Boston Marathon finish line.
- lentower
  
  All we know is that Dhzokar OR HIS BROTHER knew the ways to those places.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  thank you for this
Trix

Yes. Because as soon as we de-humanize the perpetrator and perceive of them as so separate from us, no matter how certain we are of his or her guilt, we automatically put ourselves at risk to commit the same sort of violence as they did. And at that point, how are we any better? We aren’t.
- KaliforniaUniKorn
  
  You’re insane.
  - Dawg
    
    Insane and stupid. The touchy-feely hippie vibe oozing from most of the comments makes me nauseous. There should be no empathy for a person that can do this, he should be shunned until he is convicted. Then a big, fat needle stuck in his arm to put him to sleep, like a rabid dog. Most of the world views us as soft and blames us for everything, even the stuff we didn’t do. These animals are a product of that world.
lentower

We may never know how much Dhzokar is a victim himself.

Family, friends, and society certainly failed them both.

I wish before they acted, both of them could have seen Martin Richard’s:

“No more hurting people

PEACE”
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1251933113 Chris Martinez

This is worth a song
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  a poem is a song without background noise.
  - damo
    
    your poem is noise without the background song.
- Damo
  
  No, no it isn’t. In no way shape or form is this ever worth a song…
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1251933113 Chris Martinez
    
    It fascinates me. I don’t think the boy should be cuddled or pardoned or excused, I hope he sees the ultimate punishment the law will give him. Still, his youth, and the fact that he seemed to have such a wonderful life and network of friends who are still stunned at what he’s done makes me wonder about the choices he made. It’s a tragedy he decided to suddenly take the road he did that ruined so many lives, and yes I do feel it’s worth a song. Young people, even those with seemingly stable lives, can suddenly destroy their own and others with a single series of choices. What’s wrong about examining or pondering that?
Jean

Very brave of you to post on something so controversial. But then you’ve always been brave, I guess. Or it seems like you are always anyway. Thats what makes you inspiring. Thank you. Art helps me deal with all this shit as well. And the people getting all upset that you dare to have empathy or dare to imagine what was going through his brain- well that’s the thing, they themselves are scared and hurting and afraid to think you might be right and he may have been normal and he might not have seen a “way off the bus”. This is why art is important. It connects us, unveils our deepest fears and gives us a glimps of our shadow. So thank you for the poem. I’ll be sharing it with my friends. Even if I know some of them won’t like it. Because they need it the most.
Carla Miller

The poem is nice but why are you giving him so much “Value”?
Ani

I live in England and have never been to Boston but thankyou from one human to another.
Juliana Fajardini

What do bugs me is: We don’t even know if he and his brother actually committed anything. Really. We only know what government and police want us to know. And, frankly, I can’t trust an institution that shots dead someone that wasn’t proven culprit in yet. That’s terrifying to me. That’s terrorism: everybody that doesn’t fit, or that is different somehow, may be culprit even if he or she isn’t indeed. What now if that was a mistake? Who’s going to take that boy life’s back?
- http://twitter.com/ben_cheese Ben Adams
  
  If you fire at the police, if you throw explosives at the police, they are going to protect themselves.
  - m
    
    if you see you’re face on the news as a suspect for terrorism, you know you have to run, cause american forces kill before asking (or send you down to guantanamo to rot).
- The Green Devil
  
  Take a look at this pic. See the little boy in the front? Moments after this picture was snapped, his body was ripped apart in an explosion. See the asshole in the white hat in the background?
  
  Still have your doubts? If so, perhaps the eyewitness account of the guy who had his legs blown off might sway you. Or perhaps the security camera footage from the 7/11 that he and his asshole brother robbed.
  
  http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/04/19/boston-bombing-suspect-martin-richard.jpg
- lentower
  
  If it’s true that the older brother was actively shooting and throwing bombs at the police,
  is it OK for the police to shoot back?
- m
  
  finally, someone here with a brain. THANK YOU, JULIANA!
- Coach K
  
  wow.
http://www.facebook.com/charlie.nacho Constantin Necrasov

Poetry is not a way to deal with this. Not at all.
- http://twitter.com/fountain_penmj M. J. Johnson
  
  Maybe poetry is not the way for YOU to deal with it. Don’t dare to presume what is right for other people.
- Rose
  
  Why not? (This is not supposed t be hostile. I’d really like to hear your thoughts).
- http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
  
  What a delightfully absurd statement.
- Heather Lynn
  
  Who are you to dictate how a person deals with this?
JDo73

Buddha says “You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.” There is no either/or…one can feel compassion for all…even if it is not whole…even if it is with a bit of bile in your mouth…stand on your tiptoes and hope…thanks Miss Fucking Palmer
- lentower
  
  Thank you.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=845030373 Toni Palmer

Love you, Amanda, but this man and his brother deserve NO sympathy.
When I was a confused and lost “teen”, I shoplifted, I smoked pot, I skipped school, I listened to Loud and angry music, I wanted to kill myself. All of that is a normal reaction to depression, loss, not fitting in.
What these men did is fucking despicable and disgusting. They had so many chances to give this a second thought, to reconsider, to not pack shrapnel, beebees and nails into a pot. To just simply fucking STOP! They thought this out, they built bombs, the walked the walk, placed the bombs in predetermined places and walked away as other humans lay bleeding and dying on the sidewalk.
http://www.psychichealerchristine.com/ Christine Pohl-Peters

Beautifully written and emotional. Thank u for sharing
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie

suffering
and lack of compassion are the only reasons a person could choose to
murder people with a bomb. suffering and lack of compassion are the only
reasons people call for someone to be strung up or raped in prison. it
is the same illness. the antidote isn’t more suffering and lack of
compassion.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
  
  weird. i copied and pasted this from a facebook comment i made. no idea why it pasted like this. it wasn’t broken up like this before but it ended up looking a bit like a poem. unintentional, but i like it.
MRobertson

I don’t think this is a about that poor, sad child who committed these crimes against humanity. I think it’s about the world. About us, about him, about you, about us…Anger is an emotional that is addled with grief and pain, but not for the other person. Anger tears you down and brings you to the verge of animal caged. Thanks for so eloquently/succinctly jotting this down. I’ve been too wordy lately myself.
Callum

I’m not going to lie, I hated him. The thought of him made me sick. I wanted him to suffer. But reading this, I’m remembering that there’s a human being stuck in there beneath the violence and confusion and above all, he needs help. I don’t think he can ever be forgiven for what he did, but there’s no benefit in further suffering being imposed on him. I’m sure he’ll suffer enough in his own head for what he’s done.

Thank you for opening my eyes.
- The Green Devil
  
  He wanted to kill and maim people. He accomplished his goal. What makes you so sure he wants help? You’re nothing to him and if you had gotten killed in the bomb blast, he wouldn’t have so much shed a tear for you. Do you think if that little fucker has any shred of conscience? He had days after killing those people to come clean and turn himself in to the police or to drop a dime on his brother. Instead, he and his brother went out and killed a cop.
  
  Now are your eyes open?
  - lentower
    
    You’re not going to change any more minds here,
    repeatedly re-posting the same hate,
    again, and Again, and AGAIN.
    
    Perhaps it’s helping you personally?
    - jujyfruit0
      
      Thank you. I’m feeling a bit defiant in the face of trolls today. I’m glad I’m not the only one.
      - http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood
        
        The dude lost someone in the Boston bombings. Lay off.
        Practicing empathy against those who have hurt us is a noble goal, but it’s not our job to force others to do it. I’ve never been to Boston; it’s easy for me to step back and philosophize on the greater impact of empathy and understanding, and wax poetical about what good it does the world to try and love even the most hateful people. And I do believe in that. But I’m not about to tell someone who’s lost so much more than I have that he’s not entitled to his anger. If you preach empathy, practice it when someone on the internet is irritating you.
      - jujyfruit0
        
        That comment wasn’t made out of lack of empathy, quite the opposite. We’re all figuring shit out here, that’s all. No forcing of opinions, just trying to stand for what I think is a positive way forward. That is all, nothing more.
      - The Green Devil
        
        Yes, because let’s stand with terrorists, it’s far better than standing with “trolls”. I sincerely hope you are high or drunk while writing this.
      - lentower
        
        The Green Devil isn’t a troll.
        
        He states in another comment that a friend knows some of the victims.
        
        We owe him compassion either way.
        
        Hopefully as his pain diminishes,
        he’ll grow more compassionate.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        This is one of my problems with so many of my dear friends. We owe him compassion, AND we owe him and this little community an honest response. My response is that he is entitled to his feelings, but NOT to continue to spew disrespect toward everyone who disagrees. If you need examples of disrespect, reread his implications that people are stupid, using drugs, need to be beaten repeatedly with the “clue stick”–etc.
      - lentower
        
        Yes, he certainly is not respectful.
        Quite immature.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I am compassionate toward those who deserve compassion. I do not hate without cause or blindly.
        
        But nor do I tolerate evil. I’ve dealt with enough evil people in this life to know that compassion and empathy toward them means nothing to them and they laugh at your weakness and will fuck you with it given half the chance to do so and will enjoy doing so. I am a harsh realist when it comes to human nature.
        
        Try seeing the tattoo on someone who was in a concentration camp and whose only “crime” was being Jewish and hearing their stories, and then try to conjure up empathy for those who imprisoned them and killed their family. Try facing a man who raped his own daughter repeatedly over the years but does not express a modicum of regret for destroying his own flesh and blood’s life and turning her into a suicidal mess and who knows he will never be held accountable because he rigged the system to discredit her and her story.
        
        Try facing those things and then tell me about empathy.
        
        My words are harsh but are spoken out of harsh experiences. I would love for the world to be a happy place full of love, but it isn’t. We can only make our own little corner better and hopefully can find others with whom to connect to make the community stronger and larger. Despite what you might think, my world is happy, full of music and art and friends and family, but I am not so blind as to not see what is on the outside. One thing I admire about Amanda is how she built this amazing community of outsiders. I remember seeing the Dresden Dolls when they could barely get more than a handful of people to show up to their gigs.
        
        Like it or not, evil exists. Evil will not go away on its own accord. Evil must be confronted and vanquished, especially when it is forced upon us and we have no chance to turn the other cheek.
        
        Want to know how we vanquish this particular instance of evil? We give that evil little fuck the tools our legal system affords him. We give him the opportunity he did not give his victims, to make a case for his life and at least have an opportunity for mercy and justice. “Even a goddamn werewolf deserves a day in court,” Hunter S Thompson once wrote, and he was right. But that doesn’t mean we have to like the werewolf or empathize with him. He’s proven his inhumanity, aggressively and with extreme malice. Why are people so eager to hand his humanity back to him before we even know if he even wants it back?
      - lentower
        
        I’m so sad for you.
        
        So full of hate.
        So empty of understanding.
        So immature.
        
        In so much pain.
        
        I hope you grow over time,
        to become full of love and increased understanding.
        
        Compassion isn’t earned or deserved,
        it’s due all that lives.
      - lentower
        
        The Green Devil
        
        It is so sad that you are so full of hate.
        
        I hope you grow beyond it in time.
    - The Green Devil
      
      If you’re the sort of person who isn’t bright enough to comprehend that what I am writing isn’t preaching some kind of blind irrational hatred like racism or homophobia but a condemnation of a specific evil act committed by a specific person and my refusal to allow others to implicitly approve of this act by expressing “empathy” toward this murderer, you really need to step back, take a deep breath, and do some soul-searching and consider your position of giving comfort to someone who doesn’t deserve it while simultaneously detracting from the loss suffered by thousands of people. It’s a zero sum game here, sport. You’re either for the victims or for the murderers. Make your choice and live with it.
      - lentower
        
        It’s not a zero sum game for me.
        The choice you have made is not one I have to make.
        The choice you have made to hate,
        hurts you more than it hurts anyone else.
        
        Yes, the bombers did evil.
        
        But we also owe them understanding and compassion.
        As we owe the victims.
        As we owe you.
        
        Even if the bombers weren’t victims themselves.
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        I don’t think you’re a troll either. My love goes out to you though I do not know you. I feel for everyone. And I especially feel for you right now. Your pain is obvious and I hope that time will heal it.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        What we comprehend is that you are attacking everyone repeatedly because they won’t parrot back to you your own beliefs. That you are unrelenting in your attacks and insults. That even when people DO say, “These acts were evil” you continue to attack because you don’t think we are angry or hateful enough. And that for all you say “make your choice and live with it,” you won’t be happy until you condemn us for not choosing as you have chosen.
  - Tina C.
    
    Dude… Broken record. Time to give it a rest. By and large, all who comment here hear your pain and anger. Maybe you yourself need to put pen to paper and channel some of those emotions in a more positive way. I hope you find peace eventually
    - The Green Devil
      
      How about we at least have the decency to allow the families to bury those they lost before we tell others to “give it a rest” and expressing public sympathies toward their murderers and a plea to understand those poor misguided boys?
      - Tina C.
        
        Haranguing and bullying others who attempt to sympathize with your POV while maintaining their own POV does your argument no favor.
        
        Know this: Your pain is valid. Your anger is valid. You have every right to feel as you do. My heart, and many other people’s hearts, goes out to you. Many of us feel the same anger–many of us also had friends and loved ones who were in harms way or were hurt. We ALL feel you.
        
        But please, redirect the anger elsewhere. Do something positive for YOU. And yes, give the verbal vitriol a rest. Let the healing begin, friend.
  - miserichik
    
    GDevil, please go away now. Yes, we’ve heard you. Yes, you’re angry. It’s okay. But go away and don’t make us swallow YOUR hatred anymore.
kre8tv

I get a kick out of how self-described “constitutionalists” are among the ones who take issue with your exercise of free speech and liberty.

Until it pisses some people off, poetry–like all art–is just white noise: art that matches the sofa.

Keep making stuff that doesn’t match their sofa, Amanda. We have your back.
- http://twitter.com/QofTU Queen ofthe Universe
  
  I love this phrase: “just white noise: art that matches the sofa.”
- BritS
  
  Ugh. ‘Free speech’ is a *political* concept that protects the speaker from the GOVERNMENT. It does not protect the speaker from other individuals who think that their opinions, or their self-involved ‘art,’ is ridiculous and choose to inform the speaker of this.
  
  By all means, support Amanda’s work… but please don’t invoke constitution like it’s some kind of legitimate rhetorical argument, when you want people to shut up.
- wilder125
  
  A poem that doesn’t offend at least one person on the planet is a poem I don’t want to read.
  
  Same goes with novels. Michael Moorcock’s Cornelius Quartet for example. At one point the series was banned by just about every country then the ban was lifted
- GuyMontag
  
  We’re not saying that her right to free speech be taken away. We’re just telling her that she’s stupid.and her poem is shit.
The_Pip

Empathy is the answer. It has to be or we lose our humanity.
Nick

As an actor, specifically one who spends his time mostly playing Richard III or Iago types, I spend a lot of time trying to somehow understand these supposedly evil characters. I was at the marathon on Monday as was my uncle who works in the medical tents at the finish line. I saw up close exactly the fruits of this boy’s labors. I know in time I will come to possibly get an inch of understanding as to why he did such awful things but for now my hate is still burning brightly. As much as we might hate to admit this, understanding is indeed NOT the same as approval. It is a means to finding the rudder in this often chaotic world. I don’t believe Amanda is condoning these acts one bit. Its a way of reconciliation through art. I struggle to say whether I like the poem or not but I do understand the need for it. Thank you.
- dunst43
  
  They did this because of the Koran. Read it.
  - Nick
    
    I have read the Quaran. During her late teens and early twenties my mother was a nun and when i showed up 15 years later i immediately had christianity thrust upon me. Religion only hasas much power as individuals give it. The fact is we DONT KNOW why they did this. We just have to wait. That being said these were evil acts and should be punished accordingly. I do hate these two men. But i still see why Amanda wrote the poem. There are as many ways to deal with tragedy as there are sand grains on a beach. Let the haters hate and understanders understand. The outcome will not change.
    - dunst43
      
      You have read the Koran. Where in that book was there a prohibition against the murder of non-Muslims for the sake of Allah?
      - Nick
        
        Yes yes i know it says if you see the infidel kill the infidel and all that. The Bible says love thy neighbor and the crusades still happened. Im not here to debate religous texts. As of yet we dont know why our city was bombed other than shit poor choices and bad ideology.
      - dunst43
        
        Nick, the purpose of the crusades was to free the Jews and Christians from Muslim rule. If you’ve read the Koran you know how Islam treats infidels. And since you’ve read the Koran you know how it sanctions the killing of kuffar.
      - Nick
        
        Like i said im not going to debate religious texts. Have a good one
      - dunst43
        
        No debate needed. The Koran says what it says. Koran 9:5 and 47:4. Seems pretty clear.
      - wilder125
        
        Debates are always needed. Otherwise the world thinks we’re all of one mind and one opinion
      - Nick
        
        However i think you might believe im some sort of Suspect 2 apologist. Let me clarify just to be sure. I had to see men screaming and crying while their limbs were leaking with blood on Monday. Im like everyone else right now: angry, confused, and waiting. Lets just see where this leads.
      - dunst43
        
        See where it leads and then go past that to find a way for us to end this carnage. It’s time to stand up and end this.
      - Nick
        
        Haha one incident at a time. People have been butchering each other for ages. There isnt one easy fix end game solution to terrorism. Which is unfortunate. We’re mostly up againt nations of idea rather than geography.
      - dunst43
        
        Terrorism is a tactic. Who is using this tactic and what is the motivation? It’s not Lutherans pissed at Presbyterians. We must defeat the “nations of idea”, in your words.
      - Nick
        
        But just how do you defeat that? You are right, it is a tactic. But destroying an idea is much more difficult. We cant just fight the Nazis and win the war anymore. These guys had recently become American citizens. They were in our borders and in our culture. There isnt going to be an Alexander the Great”Gordian Knot” fix to all of this. I guess im just confused by you. We seem to want the same things but by different degrees because you keep pushing back.
      - dunst43
        
        The Nazi of the last century is the Islam of this century. They were allies in WWII and their ideology hasn’t changed. Nick, you have to realize that there is evil in the world. There has always been evil and sometimes it manifests itself. Look around you. Look at the world. Where is the conflict and what is the dominate ideology. Sweet dreams.
      - Nick
        
        Exactly my point. Again i say i was at the marathon bombings. An internet poster doesnt need to tell me there is evil in the world thank you very goddamn much. This dominant ideology is more fluid than Nazi ideology. We cant just start throwing bombs at a piece of land and calling it a day. We cant just kill its Hitler and say we won. We already did that. And this atrocity still happened. Anyway this discussion doesnt even pertain exactly to the rest of this thread. Goodnight.
      - wilder125
        
        As a friend in a debate once put it. The bishops were outnumbered by the king and all the kings horses and men. Especially when they were with the crusades and couldn’t stop the crimes. If they’d tried, “Friendly fire. Oops, we did honor the priest with grace and respect. We even avoided drinking for a couple hours”
http://www.angrymetalguy.com Angry Metal Guy

I can’t help but be sad every time I see that kid. He did horrible shit and it’s all a huge human tragedy. But the tragedy for me is as much about the dead people as the fact that it even came to this in the first place…
Alexander Doyle

This is raw. This is hard to read. This is controversial. It isn’t wrong, though. No more wrong than he’s done…he was and still is a human being with thoughts and emotions that, for whatever reason, led to his terrible, unforgivable acts. Throwing him to the lions and cheering is what will dehumanize US.
- http://twitter.com/quickliftzwick Lisa Zwick
  
  Wasn’t going to respond until I saw this and had to.
  “No more wrong than he’s done”? That’s a confusing line. Are you saying you don’t think what he did was wrong??
BK

I just wanted to write a quick comment and say that the people who don’t like the poem are not compassionless. The people Amanda is retweeting now, are saying things like “… her blog, but go read it, now, if you have any compassion in your heart,” and “Too many people think empathy equals condoning all actions. #NotTheSameThing .” I respect people’s opinions who have empathy for the suspect, and I wish that people in the comments would respect mine for not having empathy. I’m really not a bad person, and I don’t think the others here who share my opinion are either.
- J
  
  It’s sad that we have to defend not empathizing with a child killer…
  - Rose
    
    It is interesting that the people who are pro-empathy, who I do agree with by the way, are being so dismissive of other’s opinions.
    - http://twitter.com/radishthegreat Radish™OfWillendorf
      
      Interesting, but 100% expected. That’s what what people who *heart* terrorists do–pat themselves on the back for “feeling empathy” and then bash everyone who disagrees.
  - http://twitter.com/sophware Sophware
    
    i read it as observing (and even critiquing) more than empathizing. it’s entirely possible i hear what i want to hear.
  - wilder125
    
    In my case I have empathy for the innocent baby that got slapped on the bottom by the doctor. Somebody started molding the kid to hate when he was old enough to take and keep knowledge. Whether it’s just the news and books, I don’t know. But someone had a hand in it.
  - PBL
    
    It’s sad that people don’t understand the difference between sympathy and empathy…welcome to the “eat pray love” generation.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  thank you for writing this.
  i gotta say: it pains me to see people over-react in any direction.
  
  seeing people saying “you’re a compassionless asshole!!!” is always very funny….
  it doesn’t work that way.
  
  xx
  - miserichik
    
    {{hug}} definitely true.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1575722360 Joey Chang
    
    You just lack viable creativity and rely on shock value to get attn
    - Christ Why
      
      Joey Chang has spoken everybody! We’ve all been wrong this whole time. I’ve been blinded by shock value all these years, god dammit!
- Nick
  
  Well said. Much respect.
- Tansy
  
  The ‘people that don’t have empathy’ are being tactless twat internet trolls. There is no discussion to be had about it, just post and run pointless comments.
lentower

So sad to see so much hate here,
among Amanda’s fans.

This is worse than the negative comments on ted.com about
Amanda’s TED talk.

Sad, because hate does the hater much damage,
and prevents real understanding and progress.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  thank you len
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  I think people are confused about what they are feeling and how to process this. But mixed in with the hate are the most beautiful comments of people processing the poem….. I have been missing literature classes with all my heart… and this feels like a large dissection of a remarkable literary piece… I agree about the hate spilling through…but it is bringing out the love too.
  - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
    
    and i change my mind…this is an awful thread.:( I hate this…..wow…attack a woman for a fucking poem! what the fuck.
- noevilstar
  
  There’s a bit of hate and name calling here, yes. But there’s also
  some honest disagreement and discussion. I happen to think that posting
  this poem was ill timed. It’s not necessary to *hate* Dzhokhar (or
  Amanda or anyone else) in order to think that there’s a time and a place
  for everything. (AFP encourages honest discussion among fans. The
  people calling her names, like the “F. You, Andrea Palmer” (!) person
  below, clearly aren’t fans.)
  - lentower
    
    This is an excellent poem,
    and it’s a good time to post it.
    
    It has helped Amanda and many others deal
    with this week in Boston.
    
    To put off that healing,
    just because there are people in the world who
    prefer to hate, than understand, would have been wrong.
    - http://twitter.com/noevilstar RatsLiveOn
      
      Hi, Len. I know you’re a long-time AFP fan. Me, too. I’ve seen you at a couple of shows, several years ago now. I know there are a lot of “haters” posting irrational/hateful things here. I’m not one of them, and my point was exactly that — to highlight that there are more than 2 types of people posting here (those who say Amanda was 100% right to post this poem and those posting hateful things). There are others who disagree or perhaps partially agree, who are trying to have a rational, adult discussion, as I’m sure Amanda is okay with.
      
      Whether the poem is excellent, awful, or somewhere in between is irrelevant to my question — whether it was a good idea to post the poem at this time. *Writing* it may well have helped Amanda deal. I’m glad of that. And, whether to post it to her own blog is, of course, her prerogative. My opinion is that she should have waited. Not, as you say, because people prefer to hate, but because people need time to mourn. Good timing can be just as important as good writing.
      - lentower
        
        Hi RatsLiveOn
        
        I understand what you are saying,
        but don’t agree with it.
        
        There is no time that is perfect,
        except the time Amanda chooses to post her blog to her blog site.
        
        Amanda needs to share her grief and mourning with her community.
        
        And the haters would still be here at your more perfect moment.
        
        thanks -len
- Alex
  
  Most of comments that I see are constructive, mature criticism – We’re not ‘haters’ just because we dislike the content or message of the poem.
  - lentower
    
    Alex
    
    I have no problem with the constructive, mature criticism given with love. Not everyone likes or even understands what blank verse is. Not everyone likes poetry of any kind.
    
    I am sad for those who are showing hate for Amanda and others because of it.
    
    Who are not willing to let her handle her grief her way.
    
    best -len
Guest

Beautiful poem, Amanda. Immediately made me think of Whitman’s Leaves of Grass. “I do not ask the wounded person how he feels, I myself become the wounded person.” These events are not about a single person; they are about all of us. And we can only deal with them by doing so together. Thanks for sharing. xx
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
  
  that is beautiful. i think it’s time i revisited Leaves Of Grass. <3
- poetess
  
  Good God – no! whatever is above is atrocious. Please, please don’t conflate it with Whitman!!!
  - Tansy
    
    This is like multiple personalities arguing with each other. Most def good for a giggle.
http://twitter.com/QofTU Queen ofthe Universe

This has been altogether a hellish week for me. Aside from thinking Boston is a pretty awesome, I am an appointed caregiver to a disabled Veteran spouse who suffered greatly as the result of IEDs in Afghanistan. He is a mixture of reiki master and trained soldier and he knows that doesn’t make sense, to anyone, even to himself. It has been impossible not to watch the TV but the images and pain let all the nightmares creep back in. There are weeks we go with no issues for him but if anyone knows anyone with PTSD & TBI issues, when it rolls in, its hard to beat back. This was hard for him because just like you and me, he sees this boy is a child. He was raised here. He probably loved his brother more than anything in the world. Despite my husband seeing the worst of humanity and having suffered greatly in his own injuries, he looks at this kid with sadness. No matter the legal terms, no matter what it makes everyone feel better to name him, strip rights from him, it doesn’t change that this has happened before and will happen again. This happens in many countries over and over every day. We some how seem blind to that and when it hits us here, we are so outraged. What about the places it happens every freaking day? You can’t change that. You won’t change this, no matter the laws, the outrage and effort.

After little kids are murdered en masse in CT, our Senate can’t agree on how to make that at least a little bit harder. How truly, profoundly sad is that?

You have to figure out what pain is creeping into people like this and try to fix it. I am not naive enough to think you can if everyone but you shouldn’t be so naive to think it will never happen again.

If a soldier who is permanently disabled from an IED blast in Afghanistan can find compassion for this child of the universe, then maybe what Amanda is doing here freaking matters. Props to you Amanda for trying.

Dear haters: Get off her back.
Mary Jane

look at all the disagreements, so we’re not a cult after all, yay
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  hahaahahaah
- Derek_anny
  
  Except it’s probably one of those unwritten rules of the universe that all cults are torn apart from inside. So maybe we are. Que sera sera.
http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood

Hating those that have hurt us is easy, and comforting. I can’t judge people who handle tragedy by going down that road. If we can hate them, it means they are something “other” than ourselves, someone we can distance ourselves from. We don’t want to believe we’re from the same dumb, clueless species as that person.

Dzhokhar’s story is deeply, awfully wrong and a pointless, stupid waste. But we’re from the same dumb, clueless species as that person, living in a dumb, clueless world where children kill other children. We can’t change that until we admit that.

I just hope we can find a way to have this reaction when the transgressors aren’t as young and photogenic and baby-faced as this kid, when they’re old and different races and nationalities and have scarier eyes and less education. Empathy is much harder than vengeance, but so much more helpful.
T

I love this poem.
(This is coming from someone who lost a friend in Boston.)
I don’t feel bad for Dzhokhar, and I strongly suspect I never will… But this poem helped me understand a little.
http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit

The scariest thing about this kid is all of the people who knew him in high school, hung out with him, got high with him, had crushes on him, and never saw a hint, an inkling, of the dark turn he was capable of.

It left me feeling this could happen to any of us.

I felt that as I dealt with my own anger over the last week. Anger at everyone and everything, but never any inclination to violence. Why? What unspeakable, uncrossable boundary do I have, do most people have, that some people lose? Can we all lose it? How does it get lost, and where does it go?

It seems to me there are two qualities that protect us from approaching, much less crossing that line.

The first is empathy — for the victims, for the first responders, for the survivors. For the perpetrators. For their families. For the random Czeck guy who gets harassed because some asshole doesn’t know he’s not Chechen. For the asshole whose ignorance make him lash out however he can, just to feel like he’s not victimized by his fear.

These guys put pressure cookers full of nails down at the feet of happy strangers, looked them in the eyes, and walked away. How profoundly must their sense of empathy have been broken to allow them to do that? How did they get so broken? Who broke them? Can it happen to any of us?

The second is expression. If you can express your anger, your despair, your hope, your empathy, you can reassure yourself that you are still connected, still human, still safely on this side of that line.

I’m struggling with how much I hate this kid. It’s hard for me to read lines that put me in his thoughts and in his shoes, and force me to empathize with him. But empathy and expression, that’s what it’s all about. That’s what we have that he lost. It’s a hope we can cling to — as long as we can do this, it won’t happen to any of us. It’s appropriate, and necessary, and hard as hell, and I’m grateful to you, Amanda, for taking us there.
http://twitter.com/mightyrosebud Heather Waters

For over 15 years, my mother was a corrections officer at a max security facility for male offenders. 3 out of every four inmates is in for murder. I played three shows there; one of which was for death row. I’m the only person in the 200+ year history of the prison to have been granted that kind of access. The whole of my experiences changed my (then) very uncertain opinion about the death penalty. I’ve shared this story at a few times since then and have been called all manner of names, including sociopath. However, I’m okay with my thinking. A lot of folks would rather talk eye-for-eye thinking… execution, revenge, hatred, anger… because they’re base and easier to digest. Considering the humanity of a killer, of a criminal is discomforting; it means possibly having to recognize something ugly in yourself. People don’t like to do that. Demonizing is easier. Black and white thinking is easier. I loved this piece; thank you for posting it.
- Ruth
  
  I love you Heather Waters. I hate the death penalty! I hope I live to see the end of it, but I doubt I ever will. Sad times, indeed.
  - http://twitter.com/mightyrosebud Heather Waters
    
    Hi Ruth, thank you for the kind reply. Sadly, I agree… I don’t think we’ll see the abolition of the death penalty (on a national level) during our lifetime.
Jemma

This poem confuses me. I don’t know why.
- lentower
  
  Good poetry often does.
  
  You could re-read it in a while, and a while after that, and …
  - Jemma
    
    I do keep reading it but I keep getting more confused. Though I do see it as a good thing. Again not sure why.
    - lentower
      
      A night’s sleep might help.
    - damo
      
      Your confused because it is bad poetry. Non-senscical ramblings, loosely tied together though word repetition, trying to be “deep”, without any real depth, only observations.
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        I am sure a lot of people said that Ginsberg was bad poetry when his work was published. I would rank this poem pretty close to the depth and intellect of him…. I guess everyone has their own opinions of good and bad poetry.
    - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
      
      save the poem for later. process your feelings and go back. if you are confused by a poem at first read take time between readings. process an image or a thought at a time. Even if you get this on the first read…. it gets deeper and deeper with each read. I have saved it on my computer to go back later.
http://twitter.com/marcosfaria70 Marcos

I love you.
Anon

Thank you for this. I’m in the Boston area and my day yesterday went like this:

Brunch: Conversation with close friends about how effed up the whole week was and how the long-distance pontificating about “Did I hear they’re doing warrantless searches?!” and “This IS letting the terrorists win” was just as unhelpful as the local cries for more death as a solution for deaths. A conversation about how relieved we are for our city, and how proud we are for our first responders, but at the center of this is both a public tragedy AND a private tragedy and it’s a shame that the former will forever overshadow the latter.

Afternoon: At another friend’s house, where her friend, was chortling over the overnight social media update of an officer she knew that said (paraphrased) “standing guard over the devil, many of you will be sad to hear he survived.” No, I’m actually happy he didn’t die…I’m sad to hear he’ll be faced with a segment of our legal system who is broadcasting and sharing something like that. In a week when so many of our law enforcement officers and first responders showed the best of us, I could have done without that peak into the worst of us.

Evening: Not attending a “celebration” party. Again, I’m relieved, but I don’t know as I’m in the mood to celebrate. And given that, based on posts from the party, they were actually naming drinks after entire ethnic groups, I’m especially glad I didn’t attend. I understand the pressure relief after the week we’ve had, but let’s be better than that….please?

Been thinking a lot over the past few days that, I picked a hard road for myself when I became athiest/humanist. I don’t have any easy answers of good and evil where morality is black and white. I’m stuck in the moral grey area where I can find sympathy for a killer. But in the end, I definitely prefer it to the alternative.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham
  
  “I’m sad to hear he’ll be faced with a segment of our legal system who is broadcasting and sharing something like that. In a week when so many of our law enforcement officers and first responders showed the best of us, I could have done without that peak into the worst of us.”
  
  Hardly a peek into the worst of us. Just a peek into a different perspective.
  
  “We sleep safely in our beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf.” – Orwell
http://twitter.com/NancyBoi NancyBoi

Thankyou, thankyou Amanda. This is just what we all need. Until we recognise people doing the people doing this kind of harm as a part of humanity. Glimpse ourselves in them and them in us, we can never begin to understand. Only by making our fellow beings “other”, does the environment exist for this kind of act.

Hug someone today. Someone who no-one else wants to hug.
jujyfruit0

It pains me greatly to see what I think was a good shot at opening up our understanding, of each other, of how we got here, of how we make decisions & react and counter-act, get so many angered hateful comments. And the older I get, the more of this I have seen again and again, the more reluctant I am to feed that fire. So rather than sit back and reply to every negative comment with a ‘there, there, you’re just sad & confused, and haven’t gotten it figured out,’ let me just say this:

I have jack shit figured out. How about you? If you’re intent on sending out more hate into this world, if you’re really determined that it’s somehow a solution, that I have no right to my desire for compassion, then I guess we’ll part ways, because that’s not a world view I can share.

The poem above? It’s adding to the conversation, not shutting it down. It’s opening up a heart when it feels so easy to hang up the do not disturb sign.

This comment isn’t going to change anyone’s mind, I’m aware of that. But if you, like me, feel like there’s room in this world for more compassion, not less; for more exploration & communication, not less; for a chance to hold out a hand to someone we disagree with, who has hurt us terribly; if you think there’s any room in this world for that (hint: it’s a big world) then that’s a start. I’m with you. I think Amanda is probably with you. Don’t feel dogged for reaching out. It doesn’t make you a weak, sad person.

It makes you fucking human. And I fucking love you.
- The Green Devil
  
  You feel compassion for a mass murderer who killed in cold blood and who could have turned himself into police in the days after but instead, killed a cop and went on another shooting/bombing rampage? That’s some fucked-up shit.
  - jujyfruit0
    
    Exactly. This is ALL some fucked up shit. And I refuse to stand down and let you try to bully ANYONE else into thinking that somehow YOU’VE got it all figured out, that your hate-filled comments are fixing anything. Because they aren’t. Telling someone to take empathy and compassion out of their heart and fill it with hate? Kinda how we got the Boston mess in the first place, man.
    
    But you’re still human, even if you are a troll. So I still fucking love you.
    - The Green Devil
      
      What is there to figure out? This man murdered and maimed people in a willful act. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist or someone with years of specialized training in psychology to know that what he did was evil and wrong. I might not have all of life figured out, but this part I am 1,000,000,0000% certain,
      
      And no, this isn’t how we got into this mess in Boston. Hating an act of evil and condemning it and those who committed it is far different from working oneself into an irrational and baseless hatred that manifests itself in the murder and maiming of innocent people. Very very different things.
  - http://twitter.com/indeciSEAN indeciSEAN
    
    “You feel compassion for a mass murderer…” – No. Stop. Right there. Some people feel compassion for other people. And things bigger and smaller than us, as well. I’ve been scrolling through this seeing pieces of your comments the whole way down, but this one got through. Compassion is not equatable to sympathizing or agreeing. I believe if there was more of it – and less finger wagging, cursing, and hypocritical dismissal of human life – we might all be a little less fucked-up. Maybe.
    
    Or maybe not. But I think my suggestion – even if it’s wrong – ends with a whole lot less hurt.
http://twitter.com/Cylithria Cylithria Dubois

You don’t know how to not hate. You don’t know how to not love.

Beautiful Poem Amanda. It’s amazing how you captured all of the things “you” don’t know, so knowingly.
m

the worst part of all this story is seeing so much hate and certainty towards a suspect that still doesn’t have a confirmed guilt. that’s why I cried for him when I watched him get caught, watching everyone cheering and saying that “justice had been served”. what justice? justice only happens after proofs presentation. for all we know, he could be just a boy. that’s why this poem touched me so much. i understand it’s hard to think straight after a tragedy like that, but don’t be so easily fooled by american media and government.
- lentower
  
  Which is why I hope he lives,
  goes to trial,
  and has a good defense team.
  - m
    
    not very likely. if he survives, he will end up in guantanamo. he’ll probably be tortured until he accepts to sign a fake declaration of guilt. this happens all the time. do you have any ideas of how many people there are innocent and never had a fair trial? do you think that the u.s. government will take it back if they don’t find any proofs (as they still didn’t) after all the freaking circus they put up in Boston?
    - lentower
      
      I be very surprised, if he lives, if they don’t try him in Boston.
      
      A good defense team would try to get the trial moved to another state.
Elsa

I don’t think anyone should apologize for feeling slight sympathy for him. It shows the understanding that he’s a human, and therefore never completely evil. He’s horribly broken, but it’s not as if he were born that way.

No one is born a monster.

People are complex beings. Even the ones that do bad things.
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  I personally believe that there are humans that can be entirely evil….but I do not believe that I have the authority to make those judgements. I don’t know what to think about this kid. But people are losing their minds and doing crazy bad things and who am I to judge either way? I agree that he is horribly broken. I also agree that no one is born a monster. Society makes monsters.
- dunst43
  
  “He’s horribly broken, but it’s not as if he were born that way.” So what changed from his birth to his murderous acts? Could be Islam??
  - SoPleasantlyStrange
    
    racism is disgusting.
    - http://twitter.com/sarje sarjé
      
      Really, this is more a case of religious persecution, but yeah. That’s disgusting, too. And (partly) why we have a land we call our own, however disjointedly.
    - Jah
      
      That’s not racism.
      And if by “Islam” he meant the Islamic radical preachers who encourage such actions, I found that cause plausible.
    - Jah
      
      That’s not racism.
      And if by “Islam” he meant the Islamic radical preachers who encourage such actions, I found that cause plausible.
    - Jah
      
      That’s not racism.
      And if by “Islam” he meant the Islamic radical preachers who encourage such actions, I found that cause plausible.
    - Jah
      
      That’s not racism.
      And if by “Islam” he meant the Islamic radical preachers who encourage such actions, I found that cause plausible.
- Jah
  
  I agree, evil doing is human.
  Adolf Hitler was 100% human being, for instance. He also had feelings, some of them made him order the mass murder of millions, but who are we to judge. His last hours at the bunker must have been hell. Poor lad.
Personality Dialysis

Empathy is hard. It’s a conscious act. Anger is impulse. People commit crimes like this because they go through a justification process that dehumanizes the victims. They stop seeing them as people. Which is shy we HAVE to fight to have empathy. Even when we burn with hate. Or we become the perpetrators and the justification process starts anew.
Thanks for this poem.
I’m glad I’m not the only person who feels this way.
- Personality Dialysis
  
  Also, empathy is, to me, the beginning of understanding why. I care a LOT about why because that is how you stop these things from happening again. Hating the perpetrators does nothing to stop it from happening again.
  - The Green Devil
    
    To understand does not require empathy, which implies pity. And who said hatred has anything to do with stopping this from happening again? Hatred is a judgment of a specific act and those who perpetrate it. Some of us believe in speaking out against evil and condemning evil acts and countering those who somehow seek to justify what happened. You want to stop something from happening again, stop acting in a manner that others can interpret as a justification for their own sick evil thoughts, that they’re really not such bad people and that others understand them. Shit like that is how some people end up thinking it’s okay to shove a bag with a bomb next to an 8 year old kid and setting it off.
    - Personality Dialysis
      
      The word pity does not appear in the definition of empathy. You are thinking of sympathy. Hatred doesn’t have anything to do with stop things from happening again. You are correct. That is why I have little use for hate. I can only live in a world where bad shit happens if I look for the ways to make things better in the future.
      
      I respect your right to speak out against evil and condemn evil acts. I’m sickened just as I imagine you are that this happened. I wish it didn’t happen. I am not justifying anybodies actions. I want to understand how the perpetrators justified their own actions. That is what empathy is. Putting yourself in somebody elses shoes and trying to understand what the world looks like from them. You are implying that my trying to have empathy is what allows people to do things like this. Does your condemning of them as sick and evil stop them?
      - The Green Devil
        
        We all want to understand what happened and why they did what they did. Maybe we will get an answer. I hope we do. I for one would like to know what motivates a person to do something so evil in what is probably the vain hope that we can somehow use this knowledge to prevent something similar from happening again.
        
        In the meantime, we need to make it clear that what he did was evil and wrong and is not to be tolerated. Not that this will stop people, but to paraphrase and rework a popular saying concerning the Holocaust, all that’s required for evil for triumph is for people to not speak out against it. Expressing empathy toward those murderers is in essence standing silent in the face of their evil acts. Others with similar sick impulses could also take comfort from the appearance that others will not condemn them should they also commit acts of evil, thereby encouraging them by providing a justification, however flimsy, that they can latch upon.
      - lentower
        
        It’s sad your world view is so narrow.
        
        Yes, what the bombers did is evil.
        
        But I can still have empathy for them.
      - The Green Devil
        
        “Alleged”? They confessed that they committed the bombings to the person whose car they hijacked. There’s photographs placing them at the scene of the bombings and carrying backpacks that matched those recovered. They robbed a 7/11 and the robbery was captured on video. They also engaged in a firefight with police officers in Watertown and threw bombs and hand grenades at the officers.
        
        You can have empathy for them. That’s your right. All I will say is my wish to you is may you go to a bar in Dorchester- say, the Eire Pub- and be sure to regale the regulars with your feelings of empathy for those Chechen scumbags. Be sure to do it in a nice loud voice so no one will doubt your sincerity. I’m sure they’ll all form a big hug circle and you can all weep together.
      - lentower
        
        It’s sad you are in so much pain.
        
        So much pain, you have to lash out at me and others.
      - tattyheid
        
        I would prefer he lived long enough to be tried in a court of law not a court of opinion unlike his brother he will probably be murdered by the good ol USA if found guilty anyhow
      - The Green Devil
        
        He murdered his brother by running him over with a car and dragging him.
      - http://revsean.com/ revsparker
        
        What the bombers did is evil and wrong.
        
        Hatred is not necessary to make that statement.
anothermasshole

Innocence can leave a person at almost any age. This kid is 19. My daughter is 19. Soldiers in other lands are often 14. He is not innocent.He knew what he was doing, and what the result would be for him. In America, anyone can walk away from almost anything. He did not.
- m
  
  how do you know he is not innocent? how come everyone is so sure about it? i understand you lost someone and, as the rest of the country, you must be trying to find someone to blame. be careful with that. it’s exactly that kind of feeling that leads the US to seek revenge and fuck up the rest of the world. one week ago, 17 people were killed by american drones in Afghanistan (12 of them were kids). no one gave a shit. this is exactly the kind of thing that produces terrorists (and, again, it doesn’t mean dzhokhar was one of them). WHEN WILL AMERICANS REALISE THAT US ARE PRODUCING TERRORISM ITSELF???
  - lentower
    
    And have been for a long time.
    - m
      
      american government is the worst and most terrifying terrorist on the whole world.
      btw, wasn’t the hiroshima bombs birthday this weekend?
      - lentower
        
        Hiroshima 6 August 1945
        
        Nagasaki 9 August 1945
        
        And I hope Truman’s advisers were right,
        that a million plus lives were saved.
      - m
        
        violence to end up violence? this wasn’t about saving lifes. it’s just like this filthy “war on terror”: a stupid excuse to make political power stronger by killing thousands of innocents.
  - m
    
    (I evidently meant “the U.S.”, not the pronom “us”)
LizaTulip

Positioning the two lines about parents, with the content of those lines, is particularly affecting. You’ve captured a sense of alienation and anger consistent with emerging reports. Thanks for sharing your understanding and healing.
gabu

After reading this I felt strange and somewhat wrong for feeling sorry for the boy but you people showed me that I feel that way because we are all humans after all. At least one thing about this sad situation feels right then.
IDon’tKnowHowtoSaymyName

Amanda I love you, thank you.
geotigger

This is a beautiful and timely poem about humanity and where we’re at; at some point that can no longer be measured or factored by one particular culture’s sense of historical timing. I don’t know how we will all manage to live together on one planet when we all know each other’s business but that knowledge is being spread faster than we can figure out how to live with it. The whole of human populated earth is turning into a small town full of gossip and hearsay and compassion and empathy is running to catch up. We need so much compassion and so much empathy to deal with this level of interaction but the internet is faster. Isn’t it? Is it? I hear and read the way people react to current events, even not as tragic or as crucial to the whole system of social justice as what has happened in Boston and I worry, I fear that we won’t make it. We’ll take each other the wrong way and assume the worst and hate and hurt and kill each other. And then, on the other hand, I see such heartfelt care and concern and empathy and humanity and I think, well maybe Amanda Palmer’s Empathy Army will save the day. I don’t know. I’m sorry for this ramble. The world wearies and scares me and your poem, your art eases that fear.
CardinalIron

Poems I feel are the personal thoughts of the writer. This poem is less about the subject of the poem, then its creator, asking questions to better get to their own truth. The poet is projecting their views about something, we are looking through their eyes, not the eyes of the subject of the poem. This poem can make you feel a million and one different emotions about its subject, but the subject is not what’s being projected, its the poet’s thoughts towards the subject that is. That is what I took from it.
Genevieve

I did not know how to take this poem at first but after your clarification with diggingellen ‘the you isn’t him’, I read again and absolutely could see how this relates to every American during this era. Everyone is just so pluged in, tuned out, and spaced out with the news and media. It feels at times we are all drones and it’s hard to swim to the surface and gasp for some air. There is just so much to take in anymore it’s overwhelming.
It’s weird, the night police caught dzhokhar, most of my friends were posting such cruel statements about their wishes for his demise but within 24 hours it seems as though it has all been forgotten and they are back to posting their pathetic meme’s about monday mornings and the days in a life of a parent.

We are all a bunch of overprivlaged, spoiled Americans.
- lentower
  
  Except for the Americans who aren’t:
  
  – black
  – poor
  – brown
  – undocumented
  – jailed because of the color of their skin
  – etc.
a person

amanda – I have supported your art by going to several shows. I felt funny being asked to donate at theend of this poem – at first I thought I was being asked to donate for the victims in Boston (that would not have made me feel funny) – I really admire your music – I thought this poem was about healing though – just sayin – it felt inappropriate
- jujyfruit0
  
  The ‘donate what you want’ is at the end of her page, not specific to this blog, this post. It’s just a generalized reminder after every post, and shouldn’t be viewed as anything else, I don’t think.
  - a person
    
    thanks – makes sense in that context – just felt funny given the topic – as a first time blog visitor I was unaware of its persistant placement. (I wonder if you can turn it off for certain pages?)
    - jujyfruit0
      
      You’re welcome. Not sure about turning it off, and I can see how that might be off-putting if you aren’t aware of that. But turning it off seems…counter-productive I guess. Now’s a good time to show support, send love/money in whatever directions our hearts take us.
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        I agree..and I don’t think that the focus right now is on the page set-up. I think the feelings and conversations taking place from what people are taking away from the poem itself is the meat of what is going on right now…. my phone is blowing up with so much emotion on multiple sides. It’s kinda crazy to watch this unfold.
- lentower
  
  Amanda and her team just added a donation link to
  
  http://onefundboston.org/
  
  at the end of all three of her blogs on the Marathon bombings.
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  her donation button is on every page of her blog. It’s an auto- link. I don’t think she has it there on purpose. The boston donation link was intentionally added.
ladymiseryali

I feel bad for this kid because I don’t believe he’s some monster. I believe he got caught up in his brother’s views and his brother’s anger towards the US. He got in over his head. I hope we can get answers as to what lead up to this act. This poem is a good way to deal with what has happened, to show empathy towards this kid, as well as ask why in a beautiful way.

Well done, Ms Amanda.
http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed

I am crying. This is beautiful and true.
kylecassidy

In the years that will come some of this will be washed away in the collective memory of those who follow us, but the art will stay. people will wonder who dzhokhar is like i occasionally wonder who Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester were, but they’ll be moved by words like this. thanks for this.
Damo

Man, that was a horrible, horrible poem. You have absolutely no talent. Stop now, before your “poetry” shuts down Boston again.
- ladymiseryali
  
  Back under your bridge.
  - damo
    
    it is a mish-mash of a proclaimers song (I could walk 500 miles)/visa commercial (dance like no one is watching)/the movie american beauty…it’s like an anti-meth ad.
- lentower
  
  a spot of humor!
Sylvia

this is the first time this comments section has made me feel broken, not healed.

i can’t make myself hate him because i don’t know him. and because i don’t know him, or the thoughts in his head, i can believe that the terrible things he did aren’t all of who he is. and inventing perspectives to explain (not excuse, but to help me understand) people’s actions, so that people may not be as inherently terrible as their actions imply, is the only way i get through the world on a daily basis anyway.
- jujyfruit0
  
  ‘I can’t make myself hate him’. And that’s a wonderful thing to point out. When you feel forced to hate, well, we all might as well give up. Compassion fills in the gaps, every time. It’s what moves us forward, hate holds us back, brings about the misery we are in now. Stay compassionate, you’re doing it right.
  - Sylvia
    
    thank you.
  - The Green Devil
    
    Do you think hatred has no validity? Should we not hate Hilter, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, four men who collectively have almost a quarter of a billion human deaths directly attributed to their actions? Why is it so wrong to hate evil?
    - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
      
      wow. I’m going to leave this thread and I think it is going to take me a few weeks to process what I think…. about hate and love and good and evil. Thank you and everyone for sharing your feelings so powerfully. This might haunt me a little.
- The Green Devil
  
  What more do you need to know about him beyond the fact that because of what he did, there is an 8 year old who will never grow up , a beautiful young redhead who will not be there to dazzle people with her smile and help others, Chinese woman who will never fulfill her promise and make her family proud, and an officer who will never again serve those he swore to protect, not to mention the people who lost their limbs, their hearing, and will never again hear a car backfire or fireworks go off without suffering horrible flashbacks?
  
  He did this by design. This was his and his brother’s plan. This was no accident or a whim. It was a carefully thought-out and evilly executed plan.
  
  It’s not easy to accept that some people are evil, that some people cannot be “fixed” by understanding them better or showing them love. But unfortunately, such is the case in life. If you can come to grips with that and stop believing the fallacy that all people can be understood or fixed, it will help you get through the day.
  - Musings
    
    If I knew you better, I would take the T on over to Dorchester (where I gather you are from your comments) and give you a hug, buy your a beer, and let you vent all over me. I hope that this is helping to process your grief, truly, to the point that it is less of a sharp knife. I am not trying to patronize you or even disagree that the bombers were evil beyond helping. I really am not the judge-all on that, but everything I read of yours suggest that you are in pain and angry — as you should be. Please in the meantime, feel free to email me, if it helps. We may disagree but I am close by and I am listening. laughinglearningliving@gmail.com (sorry for the gushy email, it’s an old account)
    - Musings
      
      Sorry, that still sounds patronizing. I really don’t mean to be. What I mean is, we in Boston need to take care of each other, and I’m willing to be helpful in the ways that I can.
      - The Green Devil
        
        I appreciate the sentiment and understand that your heart is in the right place. Thank you. I’m angry at what that little fuck has done to destroy the lives of so many people and am angry that people are trying to excuse his actions or plead for us to understand him before the families have even had the chance to buried the ones he’s murdered.
http://twitter.com/Kambrieldesign Kambriel

The importance of doubt,
of admitting that which we do not know
in a world where conclusions are rushed,
and people are either “with us or against us”.
Horrific stories related in black and white
help to comfort.

In black and white, we (think we) know…

who to villainize
who to believe
who to punish
who to grieve.

When we “know”,
we can neatly wrap up our conclusions
find resolution.

Our stories, our choices, our decisions, our lives
exist in a world filled with mysteries,
some of which
we weren’t meant to comprehend.

Sometimes the bad guys wear white hats & sometimes heroes wear black.

Truths can be harder than that
and unspoken stories are forever painted
in endless shades of grey.
- jujyfruit0
  
  Thank you. Beautifully put. I might come for Amanda’s posts, but I stay for the beautiful conversation created, and for you, Kambriel. You always sum up so wonderfully.
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  this is beautiful too.
kmwilliams

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/america.html

http://buddhismnow.com/2011/03/26/unbiased-compassion-by-dalai-lama/

xo
- lentower
  
  thank you.
  
  both of these are worth the time to read and see.
Amy

Since I spent a full day watching the news and the search and listened to his friends and family I have spent so much time wondering what could have possibly gone wrong. It really seems like this is a kid who got caught up in something beyond him and my heart aches.
Dave

We have to live with ourselves and our actions.
The choices we make the decisions we take.
I can live with mine.
Can you live with yours?

I’m alive because of the choices I made – I’ve lived with terrorism for most of my life. While it wasn’t every day, it was often enough. It injured friends, and targeted family. Often they think they have nothing left, and a man with nothing to live for is the most dangerous man alive. You don’t have to love them or hate them or forgive them. But it helps if you understand why they do it.
http://coinoperatedbear.deviantart.com/ CoinOperatedBear

I remember Columbine, everyone thought I was going to be the one to do it at my school (overweight, gay, wore a trenchcoat and hated everyone) and I wondered about the mindset of those kids. As more and more of these incidents happen, I don’t think I’m any closer to understanding it beyond people screaming to be noticed. Thinking about what could drive someone to that length doesn’t make their actions right, but by understanding where the world and society failed them, we can prevent those failures in the future.

There is no bringing the dead back. As there are a few of you who lost family and friends in the bombing, I’m sorry for your loss. I’m sorry that their wounds and deaths all appear, and may well be, pointless, lost and wrong. All that’s left are questions and lost potential and tributes and angry rhetoric and one kid who is going to answer for it. I hope that this time we can find the right questions to ask ourselves on how to make the world better. How we can heal, help and rebuild.
winkingjesii

hate breeds hate. love breeds love. it is your choice.
http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed

The Stranger. by Albert Camus. This poem is on that level and the reactions from this thread..same.
Juice (Julia)

Hi. I love this poem.. It’s not really about the Dzhokhar or the events that took place last week… It’s really about human nature And empathy.. The idea we all feel pain.. And that we all make mistakes because we are all human.Humanity!!!!! The problem is judging from the comments is that people can’t get passed the title and don’t realize that the poet was Only using last week’s events as a backdrop to discuss human nature and compassion and the realities of life. .Which is a dialogue found in almost all art! ….. And is also found in life. – juice <3 humanity !!!!
OH

It’s called “a poem FOR dzhokhar” not “a poem ABOUT dzhokar”. So much of it is so universal. Some of it has more than one meaning. Like “you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.” could be about the men who planted the bombs or it could be about your feelings towards your step-brother, or it could give someone else insight into feelings over a failed relationship or any other interpretation that hits the reader. That’s the beauty of poetry. Strip away the title and this wouldn’t be inciting rage like this. I don’t understand the problem honestly.
- Coach K
  
  she showed sympathy for a child killer. (and 4 others who were innocently killed) Glad I could help you understand the problem.
  - Tansy
    
    There you go with that hate thing again. Aspiring to be what?
    - Coach K
      
      listen, I did not write the poem.
      - Tansy
        
        True. But you sure have a lot of opinions about it that you run away from when someone tries to have a discussion about it with you.
      - Coach K
        
        the poem is clearly written FOR Dozhkar. It clearly references his “struggles” without any sort of indication that he is NOT the victim of the Boston bombing, but in fact the cause of it. To paint him as a sympathetic character is just wrong in light of what he did.
      - Tansy
        
        So your point of view is the only correct one then? That’s not what America was founded on. Rushing to hate and be angry does not help and don’t tell me you know different. Asking why someone would do this and getting answers stops another Dozhkar from being created in the future.
      - Coach K
        
        See Johnny Alpha’s comment. More coherent than I was. Getting late as I got nailed above for misspelling transvestite.
  - anonymous
    
    Empathy is not the same as sympathy.
http://twitter.com/betsiwithani betsi krisniski

Perspective: the recipe for understanding. Thank you, Amanda. <3
Robbie

Thank you Amanda for having the balls to post this.

I’ve been feeling guilty, over feeling sad for him. I just keep reading all these comments from his friends saying things like “I can’t believe this was Jahar” and I can’t help but think “what went wrong?” I can’t help but feel for him as he lies injured, handcuffed, guarded and alone.

I am in Boston, a Berklee student, and I spent the week fearful like everyone else. I felt relief when he was captured Friday night, like everyone else. I feel for the bombing victims and the policemen who were shot.

But the more I read, the more I learn, the more I feel for Dzhokhar too.

Thank you for making it okay to feel that.
Ourit

A poem for all of us. Thank you, Amanda.
http://twitter.com/TheReddestRose So Red the Rose

I love how your blog always continues the conversation we’re all having & builds on the ideas & thoughts you (& we) have shared weeks or months ago. To me this particular piece connects to the blog on bullying & hate & pain from a few months back. I shared a story of being attacked & how I wondered what would’ve happened if I had come from love that night instead of screaming back at her. And I am wondering that here, now. What might have changed his path? And how might we change the trajectory of this country by coming from love?

Is it a radical idea to suggest compassion? To urge forgiveness? I suppose it is when someone has taken the life of an innocent child (I wept over Martin so much) & destroyed lives & bodies & faith. But I do suggest that. If not for his sake, for our own. So we do not become more poisoned by fear & hate than we already are. If we choose wrath & rage it will not heal us. It will not make things better or safer. It will only add to the darkness. The quote “Darkness cannot drive out darkness” has been passed around quite a bit recently. It feels relevant to me. It feels true. I hope we do find our way to forgiveness & healing & light. I feel like we all need light more than ever now. I know we do.
http://twitter.com/WittyUnderling Witty Underling

To me, this poem is about everybody this week. All of us. Dzhokhar, his brother, the victims, the spectators, the media, me. All of us. Confusion and delusion and not fucking knowing anything at all.

The only time I was warm and safe and loved, i was a fetus, and I don’t remember it.

I don’t know the way to new york.
wickedangrybroguy

why is amanda palmer such an idiot? why does anyone care what she has to say about anything?
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  People care about what she has to say because she is not an idiot. And this thread isn’t about loving or hating Amanda Palmer. Apparently even idiot trolls like to find their way to threads that are of greater importance than whether a person is liked or not. Seriously…if you don’t like the woman…don’t visit her fucking blog.
- ladymiseryali
  
  Obviously you care, since you wasted your time making an ass out of yourself on her blog……
Michael Main

It is not a contradiction to possess empathy for the victims as well as the perpetrator. In fact empathy and love for the criminal is exactly what you owe to the victim, for without those there is no path to understanding the cause of their suffering. Hate is a conscious choice. It is also the antithesis of wisdom. Hate is wilful ignorance. It is also very easy and highly seductive. And it achieves nothing. It prevents no harm and can only encourage the very things you fear. Hate is the understandable expression of fear. Love is the incomprehensible expression of courage.
Maleficent

Everyone has the right to feel how they want to feel about a killer, of course, but I’m definitely not a fan of this, nor do I understand how anyone could sympathize/empathize/pity a cold blooded killer. He is as much a monster as his older brother was. The fact that he was younger makes him no less culpable. Nobody is writing poems for the older brother. Why doesn’t he get the same compassionate reactions?
http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed

When I was 18 (millennia ago) … I dated a very dark broken man in his 40’s that twisted my brain into darkness slowly through brainwashing techniques. Yes my fault through bad choices and bad decisions and not having my eyes open. Thankfully nothing bad came of it but it could have. He wanted me to run away with him and join a crazy cult militia in Montana and I almost did… but I was so psychology fucked in my head… it took years to put everything right. I woke up one day with absolutely no identity. What if I had done something to hurt people? No one knows what is going on with this kid. But one thing I do know is that children today live in an entirely different mindset than I did when I was his age… I feel pain for everyone. But I can’t help but wonder what psychological factors played a part in his brain. Some people are strong enough not to be manipulated or do these evil things. But some people just aren’t. Love and hate. Strength and weakness. Light and Darkness. These are all things human beings struggle with on different levels. And this poem portrays that as well as this huge outpour of emotions of anger and love that is happening because of this poem. Love to all. Amanda acts as a guide towards light to her fans. Even with this poem …even with the anger is is creating in some people. Keep an open mind. No human is without the capacity to be broken.
http://www.facebook.com/brandi.mimbs Brandi Mimbs

Everyone is so busy reacting to the chaos all around. If we’d focus on the chaos within once in a while, maybe the world would be a touch less scary. Keep shining the light on love and understanding.
bbbb

You are all idiots. He is not a victim. The victims are the ones in the hospital because of this piece of shit. How dare any one of you give him sympathy. I bet you wouldn’t be giving him any sympathy if you were in Boston on the day of the terrorist attack. Yes I said it, this piece of shit is a mother fucking terrorist. The fact that any of you are giving him sympathy makes me sick.
- ladymiseryali
  
  I thought we lived in the USA, where people have the right to feel whatever the fuck they wish. You don’t have to agree with how others feel, but don’t insult those who feel differently than you do.
- lentower
  
  The bombers are both victimizers and victims.
  - jennifer626
    
    You are utterly and entirely full of s***. THE BOMBERS ARE NOT VICTIMS. What the hell has happened to our civilization that this is not only being considered an acceptable philosophy, but people challenging it are subject to claims that they are “demonizing” the bombers? THEY WERE DEMONS.
    - lentower
      
      jennifer626:
      
      You’re so full of hate.
      
      So empty of understanding.
      
      So immature.
      
      So full of pain.
      
      I hope, in time, you heal.
      
      You become full of love.
      
      You become full of understanding.
      - jennifer626
        
        I don’t need your “hope.” I’m doing just fine, thanks — living a life where I don’t murder innocent children and don’t spend time oozing emotion and “empathy” for those who do. Your response was entirely consistent with the ridiculous, misplaced “let’s love everyone while they mutilate us” theory I commented upon, so thank you for the reinforcement.
      - lentower
        
        jennifer626
        
        you get my hope anyway.
        
        i hope you learn to love someday,
        and stop hating.
        
        hating just breeds more hate,
        more killing, more bombings,
        more starving children,
        more of what’s evil in the world.
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  many of the people posting sympathy here were in Boston on that day.
  - lentower
    
    Like Amanda, et al, I live in Boston, and lived through this last horrid week.
    - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
      
      I’ve read all your comments Len. You seem to be an amazing man with a lot of love in your heart. Thank you for everything you have said. I don’t know why I can’t stop reading this thread. It disturbs and hurts me. I have never seen controversy over a poem with my own eyes before. Sending my love and thoughts your way. Everyone’s way. Amanda’s way. I’ve been following and she was affected emotionally too. Do any of the angry people get that? This past week has been horror after horror. People just need to reach out and love. *sad sigh*
      - miserichik
        
        I’m starting to feel the same way, Tanya. I can’t stop reading this thread and it’s painful. Len, you’re awesome and I’d love to meet you someday
      - lentower
        
        Tanya
        
        Thank You.
        
        Angry, hateful people usually don’t get that.
        Many are so much in pain, that all they can do is strike out in pain.
        Speaking reason to them with love is sometimes all you can do,
        and hope they grow beyond it in time.
        
        It appears this is your first time, encountering the diversity
        of human reaction. Nothing wrong with reading it all. It’s educational
        in many ways.
        Just don’t let the hate and anger change you.
        
        love and thoughts back at you -len
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        It wasn’t my first time seeing it. It was my first time seeing it here. It was my first time seeing it directed at art. I see it on the media sites and on facebook sites. I became an Amanda fan a few months ago. I actually come here to look for peace and hope because I live in fear and I am trying to break free of it. So …yeah …. seeing it here affected me strongly. But I am still going to fight the good fight. And Amanda’s latest blog gives a bit of comfort. And so did you.
      - http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
        
        also Len.. I was never a person who interacted with people I did not know online. I love people but have always been scared…of people. So that little chain was something that was recently broken. I find myself making friends all over the world and just having conversations….I thought it was a good thing to do this. Sunday….almost made me want to shell up and just stop talking and go back to being the silent observer…you know? But Fuck that. I have so much love to give. It is so much better to share it…right? Life is suppose to be about living and sharing. And art unshared is empty and lonely. At least to me it is.
      - lentower
        
        Sharing is better. And Amanda’s fans are a very supportive community.
        
        And yes, dealing with the hate/fear/verbal_violence is hard.
        
        Again, Thank You and Most Welcome.
- http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
  
  Why would there be a finite amount of sympathy in the world? Where are we saying not to be appalled and angry at what happened? Where are we saying we’re not horrified by the violence, or that he shouldn’t be punished?
  
  A person is a person and hate isn’t born in a vacuum, by showing compassion for someone, you’re not doing any harm.
http://twitter.com/ajwink A.J. Winkelspecht

And he didn’t know how not to smile while placing a bomb next to an innocent 8-year-old kid, because he’s a fucking monster.
Musings

A Response to Amanda Palmer’s Poem

I will not say his
name.

I will not say his name–
not because evil
is nameless, or
even that
he is evil

I will not say his name:
the man who hid
in
a boat,
the color of surrender,
bleeding and alone,
while a city held
its breath
and 10,000 men lurked
around every corner

I will not say
his name,
because already we forget:
Lingzhu. Krystal. Sean. Martin
–
Martin, who in the sign between
his hands fortold a lifetime
that
would not be spent
in the bottom of a boat,
hiding from his crimes,
a
lifetime where
the gap between his teeth
would fill and
he would run
to the finish

I will not say his name
but I wonder if once
he held
a sign too
- http://tanyas13sonnets.com/ Tanya Speed
  
  wow… this is powerful too.
  - Musings
    
    Thank you.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  a poem for a poem. i can’t thank you enough.
  - Musings
    
    I was over on the Shadowbox for the last couple of days, saying I wanted to write poetry to get my emotions out as a Bostoner but I couldn’t get it out really. Everything was too sharp and too numb all at once. Then I read yours and it fell into place – what I wanted to say, how it felt. So thank you.
  - KimSparkles
    
    That is an awesome reply. I think this was too soon, but an awesome reply nonetheless.
  - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
    
    me too. first poem I’ve read all day.
- Jenny
  
  Wow!
  - Musings
    
    :-)!
- Tina C.
  
  This is such a beautiful response to such polarizing prose. Thank you for this.
  - Musings
    
    Thank you for reading, and taking the time to comment.
- theshamburglar
  
  Her name was Lingzi. I guess you forgot already.
  - Musings
    
    Ironic, pathetic, and sad at the same time. Thank you for reminding me. I won’t forget again.
- theshamburglar
  
  You didn’t fix it.
  - theshamburglar
    
    Lingzhu =! Lingzi. It take all of two seconds to fix.
    - Musings
      
      I made a typo based on yes- faulty memory and countless initial misspellings of her name in press. I can’t fix it because I don’t have an account. I am truly sorry about that.
      
      I’ll retype it below:
      
      A Response to Amanda Palmer’s Poem
      
      I will not say his
      name.
      
      I will not say his name–
      not because evil
      is nameless, or
      even that
      he is evil
      
      I will not say his name:
      the man who hid
      in
      a boat,
      the color of surrender,
      bleeding and alone,
      while a city held
      its breath
      and 10,000 men lurked
      around every corner
      
      I will not say
      his name,
      because already we forget:
      Lingzi. Krystal. Sean. Martin
      –
      Martin, who in the sign between
      his hands fortold a lifetime
      that
      would not be spent
      in the bottom of a boat,
      hiding from his crimes,
      a
      lifetime where
      the gap between his teeth
      would fill and
      he would run
      to the finish
      
      I will not say his name
      but I wonder if once
      he held
      a sign too
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001164662661 Susan Daniels
        
        This is beautiful, and true. Let’s not forget him, any of them.
      - Musings
        
        Thank you. Yes, let’s not.
      - CBSPIVEY
        
        your poem is so beautiful. do you mind if I share it, crediting you of course?
      - Musings
        
        Of course. “Musings” is what I use to share my poetry in this space. Thank you.
    - Musings
      
      Thanks to you and indeciSean, I got it fixed above. Thank you.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  Loved it. Loved both. Thanks.
  - Musings
    
    Thanks, I appreciate the love.
- http://twitter.com/diggingellen diggingellen
  
  Awesome! This is something that should be read. Great tone. And I loved “a boat, the color of surrender”
  - Musings
    
    Thank you. I really, really “dig” (if I can be totally corny here) your comments on this post (especially the initial CNN poet comment), and I think, in my eyes, Amanda’s slightly terse replies to your comments were more harmful than the poem itself. I hope in either case, to see your replies on other blogs because you so eloquently put what many of us who are in neither the “I hate this and your stupid eyebrows” or the “I love you and this, unequivocally and forever” camps feel.
- lentower
  
  Thank you.
  - Musings
    
    Your welcome, Len. Hope that you are doing well.
    - lentower
      
      I hope you are doing well too.
- Marionette26
  
  Please don’t repost that as your own. I’m pretty sure you just copy and pasted it word for word, and you didn’t give credit to Musings at all. She’s a wonderful writer and poet, and it’s a bit sketchy to post something of someone else’s without making it clear that it belongs to someone else.
  - Musings
    
    Thanks for being my knight in shining armor, Marionette ;-).
- blurry
  
  Well isn’t that a great rendition.
- ZapFan
  
  where can i donate to works of art like this?
  - Musings
    
    Just pass it forward, in the way that you wish. Thank you.
- http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
  
  Thank you (and thank you for writing an actual poem, with rhythm)!
bizzy

Thank you for sharing. I’m sad to see a lot of people writing hurtful comments on your Facebook page. We can’t know anything about his motivations yet; so yes, I agree this is a poem about a character derived from small details provided by the media. That is okay. It’s also about everyone. Thank you for bravely choosing empathy. It shows an excellent example of how to heal.
Grace

People who have survive clinical/chronic depression, like I have, KNOW that everyone is capable of ANYTHING. I don’t know what I would have done in I didn’t have my family and the means to pay for help. Maybe I would have been a killer, commited suicide or an addict… Right now, that I am finally fine and functional, that seems so inhumane but I remember what I felt during those years (when I was this kid’s age) and violence felt like an impulse to relieve pain.Maybe it is religion or another social reason that we divide people in bad/good… No. We need to address the complexity. There’s a reason the US is the most violent nation.
http://twitter.com/_TeDiouS_ Tom Steiger

There are no perfect security measures. No number of guns or bomb-sniffing dogs or metal detectors can keep us safe. The only way to keep us safe is to eliminate the terrorists.

There is no way to exterminate terrorists. Attempting to do so only breeds more terrorists. The only way to eliminate terrorists is to prevent the process by which adorable babies grow up to plant bombs in crowds.

The only way to prevent the process of producing terrorists is to understand that process. The first step in understanding that process is the realization that terrorists are not monsters, they are human beings who made a series of bad decisions, presumably for comprehensible reasons. In other words, empathy.

So as a question of pure pragmatism empathy is required to eliminate terrorists.

Empathy is not a zero-sum game. Having empathy for the perpetrators does not mean that you have none left for the victims. Empathy is not absolution. It does not imply that you believe the terrorists do not deserve punishment. Empathy is merely the realization that these guys weren’t born evil. They became evil in an unfortunate process that we need to understand as well as possible if we want to prevent terrorism.
- rellabee
  
  Thank you for expressing so eloquently what I have been thinking about muddily while reading through the comments here.
Chris

Thank you so much for writing this, Amanda. I thought I was alone in feeling compassion for Dzhokhar. As everyone else has said, this by no means implies that I support his actions, or that I don’t feel compassion for the victims, or that I don’t think he deserves to be brought to justice. Of course, I believe he should be tried in a court and held accountable for his actions. But is he not a victim as well? Even if he’s just a victim of his own hatred and fear? Are we not ALL human? Haven’t we ALL been afraid of something, and suffered from that fear? Haven’t we all done something crazy out of fear?

I agree with what one of the other commentators said: I too have recovered from a very dark place, and so perhaps I am more quick to empathize as I feel I know all too well the horrible acts human beings are capable of, whether they are violent crimes or not. Regardless, this kid was just that: a KID. Along with my prayers for the victims he helped hurt, I pray that while he sits in jail he finds the peace that he so desperately needs.
- http://www.facebook.com/wgregshea Greg Shea
  
  JLynn, make up your mind, it’s atrocious, its beautiful…
  
  Some lines about him, most about everyman.
  Naming it for him, “Joker,” that’s a bit much.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham
  
  He was not a kid. He was nineteen.
  
  The commonality of mankind is not a good excuse to feel bad for someone who rejected that commonality.
  
  There is such a thing as wasting your compassion. I won’t waste any on someone who rejected compassion for everyone else. I can construct a scenario in my head where Dzhokar deserves compassion too, it’s very similar to yours, but I reject that scenario. I’d rather spend my compassion on people who deserve it, rather than on whoever I might feel it for at a particular moment.
http://twitter.com/jennydevildoll Jenny DevilDoll

I don’t see this as solely regarding Dzhokhar, who’s motives we don’t know and may never. Right now I’ve just read it and it’s hard to know, but speaking personally this piece may have shifted something in my head a million lectures on how we’re supposed to be feeling about traumas never could.
We won’t see much light without if we’ve completely buried it within.
biz

thank you for bravely feeling and showing empathy for humanity. it is very hard right now for some people to see many different meanings that your words could have. we all feel very painful, difficult emotions, and so i understand why many people have very strong, negative feelings about this poem. i was angry at first that people are writing hateful comments to you–but if I’ve learned anything in my life, i have learned that empathy is healing. so everyone, keep making art, share your experience, always try to understand the hurtful actions of others. you might interpret them incorrectly, but at least you will heal yourself after you have been hurt.
http://www.csdaley.com csdaley

Thank you for the words. They made me finally put my words down in my blog. I think writing may be the best medicine. I was having trouble dealing with all my emotions this week.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  you’re welcome. i sat down this morning intending to check my email, decided to write a blog instead, this idea tumbled out, i wrote it in ten minutes, and pressed send without re-reading it.
  
  it’s amazing how much it can help.
  
  connect the dots.
  - http://twitter.com/skullmandible Cohen is a ghost
    
    “i wrote it in ten minutes, and pressed send without re-reading it.”
    
    yeah that’s how it reads
http://twitter.com/Leka4U Leka

Sadness all around; hate all around. Where’s the Love, Acceptance, and Understanding?
Cecilia

I’m doing a diploma in counselling & have learnt you must have UPR (Unconditional positive regard), empathy & you have to always, always be non – judgmental But I’m out of class right now and despite all of the things I have learnt and all the resources I have, I’m finding it hard to feel or fake (like you have to do a lot with clients) the slightest bit of empathy for this man. It’s making me question myself and what i aspire to be. He sickens me. But, and my point is looming i promise, everybody deals with tragedy in their own way. We all know Amanda uses the internet for her grief sometimes. What is wrong with trying to get in his head? What’s wrong with trying to piece his feelings together, whether they are right or wrong, for poetry? Or a story? Or a song? I’m finding it hard why people are finding it so completely offensive. We can’t all feel the same or we’d be brainwashed, dull and robotic. Let people feel what they need to when tragedy strikes. Or, scratch that, always/
Jenny

Your poem reminds me a lot of Gus Van Sant’s film “Elephant” (Trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htlsOf3PnGY) which regards the Columbine massacre of 1999.

It doesn’t make any attempt to give explanations or present everything in black and white, nor does it contain any of the original facts. It’s more like a poem or a dance about the original subject matter. I’ve been writing about it in an essay as everything has been unfolding in Boston, the coverage reminded of Columbine, and how we treat these mass media events, how we attempt to pin things down in black and white. I’m not saying we shouldn’t question things, but the way the media presents large scale events like this seems like it could potentially cause more harm, because it is glorifying, in a way, as well as potentially causing us to look at things with blinders on Obviously what Dzhokhar did was horrific, but this sort of thing doesn’t just sprout out of nowhere. There’s a bigger picture.

I don’t know. I’m rambling. I appreciate poetry, but it’s never been an art form I really “get.” However, your poem really got to me. Thank you for your art, is continues to inspire me, and I hope one day to create art that is as beautiful and thought provoking. =]
- http://twitter.com/gingerland62 gingerland62
  
  It reminded me of Columbine also. Two young men who have the world at their feet decide to attack defenseless victims and murder children.
  - Jenny
    
    I think you missed my point slightly, but yes, I agree and disagree with you.
Mary Jane

maybe it’s just me, but when I first read the poem – even though I was aware of the title – the topical/political aspect of it was in the background but my thoughts and feelings as I read it went way beyond it.

the poem can be read as just being about dzhokhar, but I saw myself in it. it conveys a very very specific sentiment that I often experience, hell we probably all do, and reading it felt like YES YES YES!! this is familiar, it’s this thing that I feel all the time but never name! it’s an underlying feeling that’s there in the background of my life that are generally good and great and under control, but here and there if you listen closely there’s a part of you that just doesn’t know and is really confused about everything.

anyway that’s what it made me feel. I kept reading it throughout the day and finding lines that I haven’t noticed before, like “you don’t know how to explain yourself / you don’t know how to get away from your fucking parents.”. damn.

I also need to seriously learn not to just mindlessly read/listen to new AFP stuff in the middle of the day while I’m out and about and busy doing things and then when it throws me into a whole different dimension of emotionalism be surprised by it. I should pretty much be expecting it by now. note to self, open AFP url’s responsibly.

bottom line, I love this poem.
http://twitter.com/siorghra Miranda

It’s okay if you don’t feel empathy or pity for those who have committed terrible crimes, but… what is the point of raging at those who do? Are we hurting anyone for including the perpetrator in our losses? Is it helping you in any way to try to stamp out that warmth? Be angry. Rage if you must. But place your anger and fear where they belong, not with those that love because our big hearts are easy targets.
Agnes

“When a subject is highly controversial…one cannot hope to tell the truth. One can only show how one came to hold whatever opinion one does hold.” —Virginia Woolf
http://www.facebook.com/Vegangurrl Steph Ford

And sometimes the only way to weep and mourn and try to make sense of things that we have yet to understand is to write. That my dear friends is exactly what Amanda did.

For we are the children of love and hate
Yin and Yang
Good vs. Evil
Where are we to draw that line?
Who are we to accuse and judge?
Anger and fear
Understanding and confusion
We are part of the lost and found
in the back corner of an old abandoned building
where dust bunnies are collecting and the echos
of voices are long gone.
We are hopeful and proud.
We are lonely and downtrodden.
We are imperfect in our imperfection.
Let us not forget.
We are human.
KaliforniaUniKorn

This woman doesn’t know why she’s an idiot.
http://twitter.com/falsehorizons Aisha

I don’t hate this man, in fact I don’t care about him in the slightest. I care about the victims, and protecting people from future tragedies of this sort. There is nothing to be gained from my hate and I recognise that. However, I do question the wisdom of sharing this particular piece of art with the world at this moment in time. Make it, absolutely, if thats what you feel the need to do. ‘But share it? Hmm. There are people who have lost lives, family members, friends, even limbs and with any or all of those things, their lives have changed drastically.

Amanda, I do like you as a person and as an artist from what you have shared online, and from the music I have listened to live and at my computer. But I think that this might be a case of tunnel vision, of creating and being so lost in the process that perhaps you didn’t see how hurt, how outraged, and how incapable of digesting and properly understanding your work many people are at this time. It does not help that you tell those who do not get what you were trying to say “read it again”. It almost hints that they are too stupid to understand when really, they do want to. Why would they be here if they did not wish to comprehend, if they weren’t already people who love the depths of your work? Do them a favour and explain. Its an emotional moment in history and you’ve introduced something controversial at first sight, you might want to explain it before the populace who don’t have a reason to care about you decide to aim their anger at you. It might only be a matter of time. And really, hasn’t that happened too recently already?
- Mk
  
  Very, very well put.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  thank you for taking the time to write this.
  
  i believe that art can be very therapeutic. when i wrote and posted this poem this morning, i was sharing how i felt, through words. this blog is for people who follow me and want to read my work. it wasn’t written as an op-ed for the new york times, it was written for my community, and for me, as a way of dealing with the difficult last few days we’ve had here in boston.
  
  i don’t believe it’s ever too soon to share how you’re feeling with your friends and your loved ones, and in my case, my friends and loved ones are the people who follow this blog.
  
  so while i understand your want to protect others (and it’s a feeling i can relate to), everybody has their own way of processing, of connecting, of making sense of things, of healing, of sorting through the debris of the day. this is mine, and as you can see from the people who have posted poems back to me….ours.
  
  most of the people i see yelling on this blog are yelling on behalf of people they don’t know, which is a very common thing to see on the internet.
  
  i try never to do that: i try very hard only to speak for myself, and share my own feelings. i try never to attack on someone else’s behalf. it’s hard sometimes, but it’s a good rule of thumb –
  letting everyone speak for themselves, at their speed, in their own voice, is one of the beauties of the internet.
  - http://twitter.com/falsehorizons Aisha
    
    Thank you for clarifying, Amanda. I truly hope you don’t suffer as a result of expressing yourself through your art. But do take care, I posted as someone who has seen you weather harsh storms in the recent past and would rather not see you suffer them needlessly again. That you read many of our cautionary words is enough. Peace and good luck to you.
  - lentower
    
    Amanda
    
    You might want to add this to the end of this blog,
    or in a future blog.
  - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
    
    Part of being an artist (with an audience) is that people will interpret & criticize your work. I know YOU understand this, but could you please explain it to your fans. Thanks
  - narcissistintherapy
    
    oh, Amanda, you’re an artist. that explains everything. you should be always be able to say whatever you want. and no one should ever think you say things that are offensive or ridiculous. it is *my* fault, in fact, that I find this poem offensive and ridiculous. sigh … I should be more like Amanda. Amanda, Amanda, Amanda … I’m just going to type her name over & over & over again so she can see it there. Amanda. are you satisfied yet? when will you fill up the emptiness in your soul that needs so much attention.
JLynn

Wow…this poem and the posts from some of you are mind blowing!You all are the future of this country? No wonder America is collapsing!You write this ridiculous “poem” for a child murderer and then have the unmitigated gall to have a link for donations to his victims?I guess it’s true~you can’t fix stupid…
- wilder125
  
  And yet she’s of the opinion it wasn’t about him. Well, if a writer says something was not written about someone, but someone or a group of someone elses….
Mk

I couldn’t agree with green devil more. This situation is infuriating. I think showing compassion towards the suspects right now is too soon. Way to soon Amanda. I get that you are a people person and compassionate towards others, but to be honest, I tried to meet you about five years ago at the Middle East and you totally snubbed me. Coincidentally, it was during a time when I really need some compassion. I even went to your show alone, just so I could meet you. i saw so many pictures of you hugging fans and being friendly,but that was not my experience with you. My love for your music and artistic recommendations and ifluences are what keep me interested in your career. So, I feel like this “poem” is just a way for you to get some press, positive or negative. Because, from what I’ve seem you’ll take it either way, as long as someone is talking about you. So, this publicity stunt is just too soon. Let that psycho get his compassion from the devil when he get to hell.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  “This is too soon to show compassion for this man. Please only show compassion for this man once he’s already been finished and I am vacuously satisfied and feel revenged. Basically, don’t bother me with your different feelings.”
KaliforniaUniKorn

On HBO’s “Real Time” on Friday night, host Bill Maher entertained CSU-San Bernardino professor Brian Levin, director of the Center for Study of Hate and Extremism, who maintained that despite the events in recent days, religious extremism isn’t only a product of Islam.

But Maher took issue with that claim, calling it “liberal bull***” and said there was no comparison.

“You know what, yeah, yeah,” Maher said. “You know what — that’s liberal bull**** right there … they’re not as dangerous. I mean there’s only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So you know, I’m just saying let’s keep it real.”

Levin referenced outspoken Islam critic Pamela Geller as an example to refute Maher’s claim. But, Maher argued there was no comparison and denied he was Islamophobic

“I am not an Islamophobe,” Maher replied. “I am a truth lover. All religious are not alike. As many people have pointed out — ‘The Book of Mormon,’ did you see the show? … OK, can you imagine if they did ‘The Book of Islam?’ Could they do that? There’s only one religion that threatens violence and carries it out for things like that. Could they do “The Book of Islam” on Broadway?”

Levin said “possibly so,” to which Maher seem dismiss his entire argument going forward.

“You’re wrong about that and you’re wrong about your facts,” Maher said. “Now, obviously, most Muslim people are not terrorists. But ask most Muslim people in the world, if you insult the prophet, do you have what’s coming to you? It’s more than just a fringe element.”
randomgit

This is great and you are great and I weep for those that don’t poetry.
- jennifer626
  
  You’re correct, this don’t poetry.
JBlock

I am a fan of Amanda’s, but I find this poem callous and misguided. He killed an 8 year old boy and two other innocent people and then went back to his life as if nothing happened. The hatred and disdain directed toward him is the direct result of his actions — reap what you sow. That being said, I love any art that incites a reaction…just wish AP had chosen to write a poem about the parallels between the 8 year old boy he killed and the 8 year old boy DT was when he first came to this country seeking asylum. Believe that might have had a whole different kind of impact.
- http://twitter.com/siorghra Miranda
  
  Why don’t you write that poem? It sounds like an interesting concept.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  I’d love to read that if someone did (hint: perhaps you can?).
Musings

Look, this is still very raw, especially for those of us still in Boston. I went downtown today, to the Pru, and entrances were closed off, and streets are blocked off with police at every corner and it still very much does not feel like my city. My girlfriend had friends who were 20 feet away from the explosion, who saw everything. Martin lived around the corner from another friend. I am thinking about how to help my kids when I go back to teaching tomorrow, and although I disagree with some of the sentiments in the poem, I agree with others and was inspired to write my own poetry after reading — which in turn helped my healing. I am not surprised that people are upset, and I am not surprised that Amanda wrote this. Amanda is processing in the way that she does often — publicly, with empathy, and an almost innocent (I hope) blindness that others could feel different. Others are processing with anger – towards the bombers, towards Amanda, and towards others. Have empathy for the unempathetic, if that makes sense. Let them vent, let them share, argue if you need to, but there is no blueprint for processing this. We are all grieving in our own way. Hopefully, we can find each other through this thing.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  I don’t think I agree with the conclusion, but: “Have empathy for the unempathetic”.
  
  Yes, this is important too.
- Nick
  
  This is exactly how i feel. You nailed it. Thank you.
Sam without sympathy

This is atrocious to say the least, but I am more offended by the comments bellow than the poem itself. Are you seriously empathizing for this sick individual? Every time I read that he was the victim of his brother’s indoctrination all I can think is I don’t give a s****, he WILLINGLY aided in the murder and injury of innocent people. That is it. That’s all that needs to be said.

Osama Bin Laden was indocrinated at one point in time too. Do you feel bad for him? Wake up. This kid is not only a malicious villain but a terrorist.
- Caroline
  
  well said.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  The very moment you say “that’s all that needs to be said” you’re saying “I only want these facts and these conclusion to be accepted; any other reaction or attempt at seeing more is wrong and makes me uncomfortable”.
- The Green Devil
  
  Exactly. Well put, Sam.
- cabbagesoup
  
  I feel bad for bin Laden, yeah, in the wider context. I feel terrible for anyone he killed too. It’s possible to feel bad for all victims of the fucked up global politics of the last century or so.
  - jennifer626
    
    Bin Laden and the people who died in 9/11 were all “victims of fucked up global politics” who should be equally mourned. Wow. What misguided, revolting, perverse, politically correct bullshit attempting to masquerade as moral outrage.
EndangeredNJRepub

Khaled didn’t know (nor care) that Monica Smith was 7 moths pregnant.
James didn’t know he wasn’t really the Joker.
Osama didn’t know everything has eyes.
Adam didn’t know of his mother’s love for him, nor of the love of every mother.
Jared didn’t know how shaky his hands would be during the darkest point in his life.
Khaled didn’t know (nor care) that Monica Smith was 7 moths pregnant.
Minh didn’t know that those arms were attached to children.
Josef didn’t know that some of those “enemies of the state” were children.
Martin didn’t know why.
Martin didn’t know why.
Martin didn’t know why.
JimTreacher

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Defending this killer
Speaks poorly of you
- prashranger
  
  “defending” what now?
  - prashranger
    
    where do you read that?
  - JimTreacher
    
    Mm-hm.
http://twitter.com/BattyRx Ashley

Everyone. Stop. Realize you’re discussing how to hate someone by being hateful to everyone you’re talking with. You can deny this all you’d like, but discussions aren’t vulgar and degrading. Discussions bring clarity, enlightenment- if not about the subject, about the people discussing. Take a breath, step back, and think over things before responding to comments.

It might sound simple, but how many of us are actually doing such a thing?

I am just as upset as everyone here is about the Boston tragedy. What makes me more upset, more disappointed, more anxious, is seeing hate and disgust for such an event being used by people to justify hateful and disgusting comments towards others.
- AT
  
  But Amanda responding to constructive criticism by calling us ‘haters’ and telling us that we’re reading it wrong is okay?
- jennifer626
  
  You’re more upset about people being mean to each other than 4 people being murdered and dozens others losing their limbs?
noevilstar

Hi, Amanda. Big fan since 2005. I respect your artistic need to write about these events… but I think _publishing_ this now might have been “too soon.” There is too much to be sad about, for all individuals affected directly and for our nation as a whole, already.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  This deserves to be told just as much. Precisely because this is what few people are saying, it’s more important that she post this than another lament about the victims. She’s already published those here and on Twitter.
  
  I¡d actually hope it wasn’t “too late”.
  - noevilstar
    
    She has every right to post anything she likes on her own blog (thank you, Internet/USA). But, “deserves” is a bit strong.
  - noevilstar
    
    Look, I love AFP, but I disagree with her choice here. She’s not perfect. She does, however, respect her fans enough to know that we won’t all agree with every opinion, love every song, etc., etc.
http://www.facebook.com/arcane.asylum Arcane Asylum

I see it, I get it, and it is as haunting and real as it is beautiful… In a week wrapped in as much tragedy as heroism and triumph, it is poignant to read at this close of the week.. Shame that people can’t see past their preconceptions… Thank you..
aussieblonk

This is one time we can agree to disagree. Doubt trying to see things through the eyes of Dzhokhar, makes it a poem, more like an opinion he’s been poorly treated. He must be scared, NOW, but look at it from the point of view…if he were dead. No remorse equals no compassion, yet the ‘H’ word is rarely used in my presence. My sons are 25 & 10, obviously I look at this from the parents angle, and would like to think this young man was led astray, rather than evil. However, it was he who took the last breath from his brother, so let us deal with facts, because justice will prevail. In closing I say, bravo Amanda Palmer for at least caring enough to honestly opine..
- theshamburglar
  
  I thought you said you were 19.
Eericski

I have two younger brothers and when I first heard of these guys, I thought of how I felt responsible for them when we were growing up. I pictured a kid looking up to his brother and trusting him. Following him into something dark and horrendous. Then he’s dead. Then you’re alone to stand for this murder and mayhem. Just my personal take. Then I read this poem and I felt like someone else saw a glimpse of that too. Thanks. And from another bard “what’s so funny about peace love and understanding?”
amethyst

I’m a bit shocked at how many people are protesting this poem on the basis that is a difficult viewpoint to sympathize with, or an unfair perspective to raise. This is why we have poetry, people. To help us recognize something familiar but also to let us think about it in a different way. Don’t get angry with those who raise thoughts or concerns simply because they’re hard ones to think about.
http://campylobacter.livejournal.com/ campylobacter

Heartbreaking and raw. Perfectly expresses my own need to practice compassion & empathy instead of the impulse to express anger through lack of forgiveness & revenge.
sybilll

I will risk being banned from Disqus for this, but ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY?
Sarah Jane

People fail to realize you’re not equating empathy with justification. Thank you for seeing the innate humanity of us all.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Thorpe/586231267 Dan Thorpe

I stop sympathisizing with someone the second they decide to blow up a bomb in the middle of hundreds of innocent people.
http://twitter.com/jszehr Jeremy S. Zehr

That kid is no victim. Want proof? Look at that callous smirk on his face, standing just a few feet from the backpack bomb he put practically beneath the feet of Martin Richard. No sympathy is necessary for the devil.
BM

I am nineteen years old, the same age as Dzhokhar. I have an older brother that I look up to and would do anything for; he is my emergency contact, my go-to person for any problems I have. He helped me move into college and I spend endless hours with him just hanging out. There was so many influences around Dzhokhar that we could never know. The one line “you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother” sums up completely what, in my opinion, is what happened in this tragedy. Dzhokhar helped his brother and once he got sucked in, there was no way out. I would help my brother, especially if he was all I had. However, personally I would not agree to help him bomb or kill anyone, and I would probably help him seek professional help. But, I do not know Dzhokhar enough to say I hate him. I hate the pain he caused, the injuries, and the deaths – but, I do not hate him.
TMDesign

Wow, a poem written for an alleged terrorist. It’s amazing to see what people will do for the sake of “art.” Because, surely “art” would never show sympathy for, you know, THE PEOPLE HE KILLED. No, let’s honor the mass murderer.

A little side note: Adolf Hitler was also a failed artist—but I guess that wouldn’t matter to you, because “art” trumps the value of an American life.
- lol
  
  godwin’s law, game over
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  Apparently when art is immoral, it ceases to be art, then? Because roman circus spectacles were art, and I’m not very fond of the part about lions raping women!
  
  I guess when a house is immoral, it ceases to be a house too. Yay, lets’ throw everything we don’t personally like or agree with into the void of nonexistance!
  
  I’ll begin with you: your “opinion” isn’t an opinion. Hell, you are not an “internet poster”! You are a “person” amidst quotation marks!
  
  Thank you, quotation marks, God bless you, for allowing me to so easily other-ify others.
- wilder125
  
  Or for everyone not just. As Amanda’s said several times.
  - TMDesign
    
    Oh, my mistake, it’s for everyone. That’s really weird, because I could’ve sworn the title was A POEM FOR DZHOKHAR. Or something.
- http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
  
  I’ve seen a lot of comments like this, but here’s the thing. Feelings for the victims are easy to access and process. They are automatic and uncomplicated.
  
  For some, the feelings about the perpetrators are just as uncomplicated — they are evil, they did evil, they deserve to have evil done to them, and anyone who thinks otherwise or thinks, at all, is aligned with evil.
  For others, it’s a far more difficult thing to process feelings about young people who go terribly wrong and commit heinous acts. Whether it’s Lee Boyd Malvo, under the dominant thumb of the sexually abusive John Mohammed in the DC sniper shootings, or this young man who turned from a fun-loving high school student to a mass murderer under the influence of his radicalized brother. For the people who have these feelings, writing is a way to process this complicated tumult of compassion and revulsion and abhorrence and sadness.
dunst43

You know how easy it is to kill an 8 year old and then a cop.

You know how easy it is to stone a rape victim for not marrying her rapist.

You smell the acid burned flesh of a girl going school.

You read the Koran and know that you have the blessing of Allah.

Well done Amanda Palmer. Here are some lines to consider for inclusion in your poem, you privileged cunt.
- Damo
  
  ? Try reading the christian bible or maybe the mormon book of mystical tales…religion is a means for the weak-minded to find solace in a world they don’t understand. Religion is control. Religion is a joke. Free your mind and free your life…learn to think for yourself.
  - dunst43
    
    High five Damo!! Glad to see your view of the Koran is the same as mine. I’ll quote you…” Religion is control. Religion is a joke. Free your mind and free your life…learn to think for yourself.” By that you’re saying that Mohammed is a fraud. Awesome.
    - damo
      
      I think that mohammed, jesus, joseph smith, jim jones, billy graham, the jew god, are all frauds…people point at islam, but how about ‘dem crusadey thing? how did that work out for ya?
      - dunst43
        
        Damo the crusades happened to free Jews and Christians from Islam. The Religion of Peace was not very friendly to those who had not given up their humanity. Read the Koran Damo.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham
        
        Who the fuck cares? The last person to participate in the crusades died what, 750 years ago?
        
        Or did you just not notice the difference between 1250 and 2013?
        
        The next time Christians, regarding it as an act pleasing to Jesus, fly planes into buildings or set bombs in front of little kids, feel free to bring up the crusades. Until then just please shut the fuck up.
http://www.facebook.com/richard.meyer.564 Richard Meyer

He killed his own brother by running him over with the car during the getaway. He killed an 8 year-old boy.
BrotherMatthias

Fuck you, Andrea Palmer.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  they call me HELL!
  they call me STACEY!
  they call me HER!…
  
  THAT’S NOT MY NAME!
  THAT’S NOT MY NAME!
  - Damo
    
    We know, it’s Amanda…says so in your blog title.
  - Marionette26
    
    Holy shit. I love you. Best response ever.
  - miserichik
    
    *snicker* Thanks Amanda, I nearly spit my cereal out on my monitor *giggle*
- lentower
  
  Wrong blog.
  
  Andrea’s is elsewhere!
- wilder125
  
  Her name is Andrea?
Wazoo

I’d really like a donut right now.
Rachel

Art = sometimes provoking. If you read the poem properly, she’s not condoning anything. Just commentating. She’s imagining the other side. If Art was meant to be happy fairy floss then it would be. But since dark things exist in the world, dark art must be made to explore WHY it exists
http://www.facebook.com/richard.meyer.564 Richard Meyer

He did this because of Radical Islam. He did it for Jihad. He wasn’t just a “mixed-up kid who had abad day.”
- Linus
  
  He told you this, did he? And if you’re right that it was about Jihad, isn’t that a pretty mixed-up thing for a kid to have gotten involved in.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham
    
    He doesn’t have to tell anyone anything; we know all about his brother. If his brother had lured him into neo-Nazism instead of Islamism, would you be calling it a “pretty mixed-up thing for a kid to have gotten involved in”?
    - lentower
      
      At this stage, we know little about either brother.
      
      You’re just adding more hate, that will generate more hate.
    - Linus
      
      Yes. Clearly neo-Nazism is messed up. As is a reading of Islam that suggests setting off bombs is ok. A kid who has gotten himself involved with such things is pretty mixed up. We don’t know everything about his brother or the nature of their relationship.
http://twitter.com/lacedtight Crazy Cat Lady

The blind hatred directed by some at this man and his brother, the vicious joy at violence directed towards them, the calls for their deaths, the demands to bomb countries they aren’t even from… I have despaired of America this week. I had to temporarily unfollow @yesyoureracist because the blind violent hate and inaccurate racial slurs were making me too angry. I was beginning to think the US was populated only by short-sighted hypocrites with an unquenchable blood-lust. Thanks for this poem. It reminds me that so many people in America care more than just about their own citizens. It makes me sad all over again that people are throwing more hate at you for it. Surely there are more choices than “with us or against us”, “hate him with us or we’ll hate you”.

My take on this poem is that it is a groping attempt to make sense of what happened, of what’s happening, not only in this case but around the world. And what has always happened. Why do people, why do WE, commit violent acts against strangers? Why did this occur?

Reducing the humanity of an attacker is always an easy way of disassociating ourselves with them. If Hitler walked around laughing evilly and steepling his fingers that would be fine; it makes us uncomfortable to see him flirting self-deprecatingly or playing with the dog he loved. Because then he’s like US, and if HE is like US, then…. what are we capable of? So much easier if these people are all just inhuman monsters, bad all the way through, because then we don’t have to wonder about all the people in our lives, about ourselves, about whether Dzhokhar felt fear or even regret.
gretchen

It’s not even any good.
elblooz

This is pretty hilarious. Such overreaction.
My take on what the poem says: “you poor sap, you didn’t know this, you didn’t see that, and now you’re screwed”. I see neither love nor hate in it, just bald statement of fact.
People who are gong nuts over this ought to just set it aside for a few weeks and come back to it when they are calmer.
Really, it’s niether that great or that bad a poem to be worth calling someone names about.
RomanCandle

Questionable grammar and ignorantly spouting off awful things just to get a rise out of people: poets and internet trolls have alot in common.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  O mind-reading critic, please tell us more about what the writer’s intentions clearly were! We long for being enlightened by your superhuman capacity of observation!
http://twitter.com/meltinghalo Christine

Because it’s easier to write thoughts on my own blog. #NoHate #AllLove http://meltinghalo.typepad.com/blog/2013/04/mediocre-thoughts-on-a-big-topic.html
- lentower
  
  Well written.
  
  Thank you.
Dezz

When I was 19 my life was full of pain. All my bridges were burning. I had nobody and I had nothing, nothing but rage and pain. I was so mad at the world..
It’s been a long time, things are good now.
But when I heard about this kid on the news, I couldn’t help but think back to those years. I could have done what he did. I would have done what he did, without any political or religeous agenda, just to see the world burn and hurt and cry. I wanted to.
I didn’t do anything horrific in the end. I met some people who were kind to me, strangers with no motives other than compassion, no hidden agendas other than making the world a nicer place for others.
Now I can’t help but wonder, maybe if someone had been kind to this boy…
I try to be kind to strangers these days.
http://twitter.com/skullmandible Cohen is a ghost

holy cats this is trite
Go Ahead, Call Me a Hater

I can understand why the focus of the responses here have been on the gesture of the poem. You obviously knew it would be provocative.

But I don’t have a problem with a worthy attempt to empathize even with the most rightfully reviled among us. A good poem empathizing with this guy could be powerful and meaningful.

But … this is an awful poem. Cliche entwined with precious nonsense. Totally apart from subject matter, just utterly, flailingly, miserably unequal to the challenge it sets out to handle.

The bland, half-baked attempts to interweave the dramatic isolation of his participation in the attack and its fall-out with everyday details the reader is supposed to relate to is just so, so, so clumsy and inartful. There’s barely any attempt at evocative language, careful diction or powerful imagery (an iPhone in a boat is the only one I can even remember–blech). Flabby and precious. More an exercise in courting attention than anything real. Awful.
- poetess
  
  Yes, it’s atrocious. The worst part is that a good poet could manage this. This is not a poem; it’s absurd blather. And this drivel stinks of classism and privilege. Conflating concerns about iPhones and other people’s dissertations with imagined thoughts about murdering your brother and trying to commit suicide. People, PLEASE don’t imagine this is POETRY!
  - Blurry
    
    Because you’re such a credible judge of what is and isn’t poetry, right?
    Everything said on the internet is truth, right?
- wilder125
  
  I love blogs don’t you. People can drabble on them.
- http://twitter.com/_TeDiouS_ Tom Steiger
  
  What I like about this is that it is a critique of the poem itself as a work of poetry, and not an attack on the poet or her fans. If you want to be called a hater you’ll have to try harder than that .
elykr

This is lovely
http://twitter.com/dharawal bitchbegrumpy

I come from Tasmania, until the horrific events in Sweden, Tasmania had the dubious honour of being the place where the world’s worst massacre by a lone gunman took place. Martin Bryant killed over 30 people in a rampage that spanned over 12 hours. He deliberately stalked and shot two defenceless young girls and their mother. He ruined the lives of countless families and has left a deep seated wound that even now some 17 years later has still not healed and probably won’t.

At the time I was paralysed by fear because my home state is a small one, about 500,000 people and we all knew someone who had been shot or we all knew someone who knew someone. Even in my deepest fear and terror I did not hate Martin Bryant, I don’t hate him now.

My hate will not bring back those who were lost, it won’t make him feel remorse or make him wish he’d chosen another path, what it would have done was consume me and made me a lesser person.

That would indeed have been letting him win.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1443701982 Michael Lee Russell

Oh God, Amanda, why? Didn’t you get that the conservative backlash would be hateful and fierce? Or are you going into it this time with your eyes open and unafraid? I will back your play either way, but dancing on the third rail is more excitement than I would personally care for…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Thorpe/586231267 Dan Thorpe
  
  This his has nothing to do with politics. This is about showing sympathy for the victims not the criminal.
  - Linus
    
    Isn’t it possible to do both?
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Thorpe/586231267 Dan Thorpe
      
      Not IMO, when he set of that bomb he lost my sympathy. Everyone has trouble in their life, a person with morals and decency don’t kill people in response.
      - Linus
        
        That is fair comment, I think. Thanks for expressing your view with dignity and without vitriol too. I don’t personally read anything in the poem that contradicts your second sentence. I think seeking to understand another person’s experience is always worthwhile. I think its important to ask questions about what is the response that is gonna help us be the kind of people we want to be and what is the response that’s gonna make our society the kind of community we want to live in. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
    - lentower
      
      Yes, it is possible to do both.
      
      Many people who have commented here, do and have.
Just_a_Bystander

What a load of horse droppings.
Amanda’s Meth Straw

Less meth.
More eyebrows.
A shower, too.
Brush you teeth.
Comb your hair.
Bippity, boppity boo.
- http://twitter.com/FelixMarques Félix Marqués
  
  “I have nothing rational to say
  so I’ll just attack your personal hygiene,
  even though I know
  nothing about that
  or about the drugs,
  but I know enough
  about shaming people through criticizing their appearance.”
- http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
  
  Hahahahahahahah
http://twitter.com/skullmandible Cohen is a ghost

A POEM FOR AMANDA

Look

Look At Me

Look At Me Motherfucker

Everyone Look At Amanda

Amanda Amanda Amanda

Have You Heard About My Art Book

Have You Heard About My Art Book

Have You Heard About My Art Book

Have You Heard About My Art Book
http://twitter.com/buckleysangel Glico Morinaga

You are such a talentless sack of shit I often get you confused with Zoe Boekbinder.
ami tabha

UnlessYouHaveLosABeloved
leon

I had never heard of Amanda Palmer until I read this, good job using this to get your name out there… Oh yea those guys should have self immolated if they wanted to make a statement at least then the only people killed would have been themselves
ABoleynGirl

You have your priorities (and sympathies) badly out of whack.

Also, please don’t embarrass your second grade teacher any further by not using correct capital letters.
e.e. cummings you ain’t.
James

So it seems the lasting legacy of the Boston bombings is excruciatingly bad poetry bookended by PayPal donation buttons.
- wilder125
  
  Or the site already had it and the coding has to be changed so the button won’t appear in it.
- Tansy
  
  . i put a lot of time and effort into this blog and want you to have it and read it for free. if you want to give me some help for the time and effort, THANK YOU. you can either kick me back directly through paypal using the button below, or if you want to take some MUSIC TOO (even better, yay!) go to the store section and kick me back through paying what you want for an album or a song.
- lentower
  
  One of which provides a way to donate to the bombing victims.
  
  Have you?
ObamaVoters

Amanda
you don’t know how big of a moron you really are.
http://www.facebook.com/lucy.collingwood1 Lucy Collingwood

Oh dear, Amanda, you’ve woken the horde.
Good luck!
http://twitter.com/monster19nazi Korey Flad

I find this poem a really interesting and thoughtful exploration of how blinding narcissism and gluttonous self-indulgence can mislead someone into thinking that sharing their vapid inner monologue is more important than silently respecting the families of the recently dead and maimed.
piss

you suck
butters

so strange to see all the fascism on display in the comments, in response to such a compassionate piece… but perhaps not surprising. people dont know how to feel the complexity of this… so the only response is a phantom one. eye for an eye in the name of lack of imagination… of any real human emotion.
Lacy

I’m reading a book right now called A Human Being Died that Night by Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela, a psychologist who worked with South Africa’s TRC and conducted a series of interviews with Eugene de Kock, the commander of state-sanctioned “death-squads” during Apartheid. In it, she struggles with her own growing feelings of empathy for a man who was directly responsible for murdering countless South Africans and causing huge amounts of terror and pain in the process.

She is writing about a very specific model of justice, since the TRC granted amnesty to perpetrators, but it still seems relevant to this discussion. She writes: “Although forgiveness is often regarded as an expression of weakness, the decision to forgive can paradoxically elevate a victim to a position of strength…forgiveness does not overlook the deed: it rises above it. “This is what it means to be human,” it says. “I cannot and will not return the evil you inflicted on me.” And that is the victim’s triumph.”

This echoes what many have said about countering hate with love and so on, but Gobodo-Madikizela personalizes her relationship as a black South African with an “evil” man who terrorized so many South Africans on behalf of the state, and I think that her own reflections on remaining open to forgiveness as a mark of strength and humanity are a powerful lesson in how we can learn to heal after horrible injustice. It’s certainly not an endorsement of forgiveness on a legal level, in this case, but perhaps on a personal level. Also I recommend the book.
Fact

I would have finished this poem, but I stabbed my eyes out before I could
- Linus
  
  Your typing is very good for a newly blinded person. Well done.
  - Fact
    
    Thanks!
damaia

Most of the time, I get what goes on in this space. I can always count on coming here to read something interesting, although I’m not sure I can even call myself a proper fan, either of Amanda’s or of the Dresden Dolls before that. However, this “poem” reads exactly like what it is; something dashed off in ten minutes and slapped on the web. It feels like a soulless attention grab, something designed to generate exactly this sort of controversy. It feels like trolling.

I get that this was an attempt to understand what this man did. I get that writing it was an attempt to process. But writing it and posting it are two completely different acts. One does not necessarily have to follow the other. And that’s what makes me wonder. Why post this, and why post it now, less than a week after several brutal murders and the maiming of dozens more? Is there something in this public act of murder that demanded an artistic response? Did it seem like fucked up performance art, maybe? Why did this particular senseless act of violence (one extremist bombing in the dozens that have already taken place this year around the world) demand that a “poem” be posted? I mean, write it. By all means, write it if it helps to process, or calms you down, or whatever. That’s what private expression is for. But that has nothing to do with posting it. Posting it fills a totally different need, and I’d love to know what that was in this case, because I can’t imagine expecting any other response than the anger and pain here to posting this piece this soon.

I look forward to a long explanatory post in the near future.
- miserichik
  
  I don’t feel that she has to explain her reasoning to anyone. Poetry is a way to get feelings out so they don’t fester. I think that, by the looks of this comment section, everyone will believe what they want to believe whether Amanda “explains” it or not. Posting a poem is posting her feelings. Feelings that don’t follow YOUR rules or regulations. Why should she feel the need to justify her feelings?
Another Brad

I mean, if sympathy for a terrorist wasn’t enough, this is not even a poem. Whatever it is, it’s shitty. Very, very shitty.
Hunchie

I read this poem when it was posted earlier today. I had to digest this and did so, away from the computer. Later, I saw the explosion of tweets, comments, re-tweets etc. hate, love all reactions from people, and AFP. I watched the nova of responses, filled with bitterness and/or serious support. I kept seeing “read it again” posted. I kept thinking to myself, “Wow. I must have interpreted these words way differently than anyone else.” I saw this all on my twitter feed. This led me to do just that-read it again. I just re-read this again, hours later. I still~still see it simply in my head, as Amanda writing out words, emotions she felt driving to NY. I could be so wrong. I could be so right. I don’t quite grasp the hatred comments. “The pronoun you is a personal pronoun, second person, singular or plural, subjective or objective.” I guess, even re-reading this a second time, now a third time, I see the popcorn popping of thoughts being written out, trying to make sense and at the same time~random. To me, it made me reflect on anyone, even myself. As the reader, you interpret the meaning. Yet you don’t know the true meaning of what was written unless you are the writer. Sounds silly, I spose, but has anyone ever seen the movie Finding Forester? How disappointing, to read that someone suggested for her (Amanda) to stop writing. Makes me shake my head. Boston is a highly emotional topic right now. This is a very tragic and very real part of our lives, and we all have been affected by this tragedy. When I read this the first time, I didn’t read it as a letter, I read it as a poem. I still am reading it as a poem. xo peace.
http://twitter.com/hattiejdaily Hattie Daily

In another life, I was an interrogator (military not law enforcement, so the focus was information not confession). Later, I trained other interrogators. What I did, was record people’s stories. In order to do that successfully, empathy must be the core of your process. The preparation for every interrogation begins with a process that looks very much like the poem Amanda has been kind enough to share with us. Yes, there is some science/technical skill involved, but the empathy, the humanity fuels the whole thing. Without taking a glimpse at the world through a person’s particular filter, even if they have committed a heinous and unthinkable act, we cannot open the dialogue. I spoke to a lot of young men, who were in similar situations, and all of their stories read like this poem. The people who will be questioning Dzhokhar over the ensuing weeks, will take themselves through a process much like the imagery/ideas/thoughts reflected in this poem.
So there’s an absurd irony in some of the hateful language being thrown around here and on Twitter, because the very process these people are so furious about, is the process that will record this young man’s story, which will be admitted into court as evidence. The only difference is, they are not permitted to share their process with the world. So, if we follow the advice of some folks here and label him and silence him, he cannot be brought to justice.
It’s easy to say “fuck him, he’s a scumbag.” The hard job, the scary job, is swallowing the pain/fear that makes us assign those labels and wish for vengeance, and taking an honest look into a very unpleasant and unfamiliar place. It is how we tell the story. It is how we move forward. And it is how we make a world in which fewer people find themselves at this place.
Hate is the language of cowardice, and the antithesis of progress. Empathy is the language of bravery, and the map we use to get out of a dark place.
- http://twitter.com/hattiejdaily Hattie Daily
  
  Also, for those accusing Amanda of making it all about her. That’s another key part of the process: taking stock in your own biases, doubts, beliefs, confusion, etc. Dialogue happens between more than one entity, so all involved must be prepared for some self exploration.
  - Alex
    
    I agree with you, but Amanda doesn’t, and I think that’s what’s triggering so much of the anger in this post. The top comments suggest that she’s writing based on her own assumptions and bias, and she told them that they were wrong, but provided no explanation or response. I have no problem with her standing behind her work, but responding to criticism by saying ‘no, you’re wrong, you don’t get it’ is juvenile.
- The Green Devil
  
  Really? You felt empathy towards those you interrogated? Or were you merely feigning it so they would think you were the “good cop” who understood them so they would help you do your job and obtain the information you desired?
Another Amanda

While I know you don’t care what some tiny person you’ve never met thinks but, wow: I’d been a fan of yours going back some years and I never thought I would lose respect for you to this degree. Sure, sometimes, stuff comes out of your mouth that I wish hadn’t. The same thing happens to myself all the damned time. But you had a choice here and this was not a good situation in which to to take such an enormous risk because you risk really genuinely hurting people who like you. It makes somebody like me, who really likes you not sure if it’s even vaguely ethical to acknowledge your art.

The above poem was written in incredibly bad taste [in its timing and artistic aims]. If you were maybe 18 years old and not aware of the dangers of opening your mouth on the internet and typing your knee-jerk emotions, I might be able to laugh this one off. You and I both are too old for this. You can’t tell me that you wrote something with such a provocative a title and subject and thought that audiences would understand this, given the emotional timbre of…say…the news right now. You can’t tell me that you reasonably expected those audiences to conclude that this poem is a moving piece of art about how we’re all misunderstood and prone to mistakes, sometimes big ones.

Art or no, sometimes it’s best to wait before putting something like this out there. Let it sit. Develop. Become nuanced. Complicated in the way the issue is complicated. I know artists need to be strong, to believe in themselves…but they also need to listen when someone is trying to tell them what they sound like to another person [even though this might not seem like “help”]…From one Amanda to another, this poem …needed more time and work. I guess you can argue that you’re being “historic” in recording your immediate feelings, but really, is it wise to put that on the internet like this? Is this how you want to come off to the public? The artist who felt that her personal artistic take on the bombings was more important than having some sensitivity to BOTH sides of the issue [including those the presses happen to be siding with]? You’ll probably argue that you are being sensitive to the “more misunderstood” parties in this issue; that you’re offering understanding for those that are getting the fuzzy end of the lollypop…but really? Seriously? Are you sure you want to be sympathizing with people who bomb things? Don’t get me wrong — I went to Berkeley, I’m a protest kid, but hell — isn’t there a point where one has to draw a line in the sand and say “some things are not ok”? What if it wasn’t the Boston Marathon…what if it was one of your shows? Would you write a poem for the kid who blew off that fan in the front row’s legs because they’re “misunderstood” and getting shit in the media?

It pains me to complain, but I feel really strongly about this one. Art, true art, art that matters and hits where it counts often is aware of its most basic counterarguments and contradictions and addresses them. Ok, you’re sympathetic to kids in Dzhokhar’s state of confusion…but what about the realities of what he did? A stronger piece would be clear-headed about this, would not just wash away the gravity of this situation…and moreover, would show how empathy still matters in spite of these realities. You might feel like you’ve done all of this…but I’m telling you: it didn’t work for me. Consider me totally alienated and ethically uncomfortable with supporting your work further.
- Marionette26
  
  AGGHHH. You’re such a troll! Stop copying and pasting other people’s posts! That’s just weird.
  - Another Amanda
    
    For the record, I wrote this post myself and have *only* posted it once. I think there’s something with the format of the discussion board that causes posts to recirculate to the top when voted up. I did not copy and paste anything from anywhere; these are my actual feelings. Essentially, this is my break-up letter to Amanda and it’s been placed publicly to allow anyone who agrees with it to say so [or vote up]. While some of my sentiments are reiterated elsewhere in other comments, any direct similarity in wording is purely coincidental. And btw, namecalling is super-uncool, given that I didn’t call you or Amanda any names in my post.
- Amanda Palmer
  
  I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
  Not so sorry,
  Amanda Palmer
  
  PS-Fans stay tuned for some new iTunes exclusive tracks this summer. Only $1.99 per track!
  - dtu
    
    hahahaha!
millie lammoreaux

I mean, it’s just a horrible poem.

I can’t even address whatever political comment is being made because the poem is incoherent.

Agh.
- miserichik
  
  Why does it have to have a political spin on it? Does Amanda need to make her art political? Ridiculous statement.
http://twitter.com/walluminati Steamin Willy Beamin

Amanda Palmer is what they call her
She writes poems for people who do terror
I guess Dzhokar was misunderstood
A few people died but to you its all good
There is one thing you forgot to mention
He did it for Jihad, but you wrote this for attention

Go to hell you dumb cunt. I hope your art fails.
http://twitter.com/Nihilo888 R.C.

I love this poem, AFP. Compassion & human connection without exclusion is hard for a
sarcastic & frustrated society. Bad TV, movies and a shitload of other media outlets have taught the lazy-minded that there are black and white answers to everything. To THINK for one’s self, to consider circumstances beyond what’s printed in ink (newspapers & Internet) it required in order to BEGIN to see what’s happening. People are more sheepish than they will ever realize. Was Hitler a “bad” baby? No. Every child is innocent and pure. Everyone has teachers for ill and naught or for the betterment of society. Fault and guilt is not an easy picture to paint no matter how tempting it is to jump to easy sheep-minded conclusions. Patience is needed for everyone – e v e r y o n e (critics, trolls, the naive and blessed).
BrotherMatthias

Typical Northampton-Amherst left-wing crap.
- Damo
  
  Is this coming from a typical cousin-marryin’, NRA member, southern, pick-up truck driving, conservative right-wing, bible thumper?
  - ObamaVoters
    
    is this coming from an Amanda Palmer hairy armpit sniffer?
    - Damo
      
      no, it’s coming from a mittens romney underwear inhaler
nate

All of you are the reason we will never win the war on terror. All of your “understanding” and “caring” and “open mindedness.” Dont you understand, terrorists dont want to understand, they dont care, and they are some of the most closed minded people of the planet. They want us dead, for no other reason than we are westerners or Jews. You cant reason with that. You cant understand that. All you can do is defend yourself from it. I know this poem wasnt necessarily about terrorism, but the comments are all repeating about how if we could just understand, it would be all good. Its not us, its the people that want us dead.
- http://twitter.com/MissShivvers Siobhán
  
  Extremism is born out of many things, but mainly desperation. There are those powerful and corrupt individuals who prey on others and abuse their faith to turn them to a view of extremism. To say that those people who have been manipulated have no other motivation other than that of racism or sectarianism is a fallacy that speaks to an ignorance of the complex situations that extremist groups originate from.
  
  There is no question that what happened in Boston was anything other than a deplorable act. No one commenting here can condone those acts, no matter how much anyone attempts to humanize the perpetrators. There is ultimately no defense.
  
  However, to assume that there are no deeper motivations, however misguided or ill-informed those motivations may be, is wrong. We will never be able to stop these things happening if we don’t attempt to figure out what these people are “fighting against”.
M

Amanda,

I know a lot of people are coming down hard on you for this, accusing you of wanting to make this tragedy about you, or of wrongfully empathizing with this kid. I just wanted to say that I get it; I get that this poem is about you and your way of processing the events, and maybe that’s “making it about you” in a way that people don’t love, but shit, it’s your blog. It’s kind of about you by default.

And I don’t think it’s ever wrong to try to empathize. It doesn’t mean you’re condoning his actions or making assumptions about who he is or his motivations. You’re just processing it the way that you do, which is by making art. Some people process by complaining on the internet about the actions of others. I know which I’d rather read.
Jacalyn

I first want to say that this poem has left me feeling the same way I have felt all week: confused, and sad. This world is an imperfect place.People do evil things. I can somewhat understand this conversation about empathy, about feeling compassion for the suspect. He is a teenager,and by all accounts seemed to be a good person. However, So many people have been killed and injured and forever changed this week,and allegedly because of his actions. Therefore, my empathy lies with his victims. As a mom of a sweet baby boy, my heart is shattered when I think of Martin and when I see the picture of him and the suspect behind him, the bomb off to the side. Martin was only eight years old. HE was innocent. HE is who is deserving of my tears. The suspect will have his day in court. He will pay for his heinous crimes.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham

I don’t understand why people are getting so worked up over something that is so banal. It’s a bad poem, everybody needs to get over it. Which is NOT to criticize Amanda Palmer for writing it or putting it up on the internet. It is to criticize it as just expressions of alienation over and over again, until the mind grows numb. But maybe it is not even correct to criticize it. But then again, it was put in the public square, so to speak. There are a lot of ways to think about this poem, but I don’t think the way that leads to criticizing it for allegedly expressing sympathy (I don’t think it does) for Dzhokar is a valid one. I perceived it as – perhaps unintentionally – being more damning of Dzhokar than anything else. There’s also a very harsh perspective in the text towards the older brother, Tamerlan.

And what do you expect with the first half-dozen lines, that adds the faux-sophistication that is necessary to the ego.
XYZ

I read this and then got to the bottom and thought the window where you could donate money was going to something related to the Boston bombings. Then I realized that it’s just asking to give Amanda money….?
- Mary Jane
  
  it appears on every post, it’s part of how this community supports an artist they love. it has nothing to do with the content of this particular post.
- lentower
  
  Amanda and her team, has since added a “window” pointing to
  
  http://onefundboston.org/
  
  The main place to make donations to help the bombing victims.
Dan

Every line starts, “you don’t know…” How is pointing at ignorance sympathy? It neither condemns nor excuses the bomber’s actions, it appears to me to put his person-hood in relief when most responses to such extreme acts flatten humanity in the face of the grief he is responsible for.
AnonByExample

Amanda Palmer taking any excuse she can to put herself at the center of attention + controversy? What a shock. Congrats on another ‘edgy’ post!
beccafran

if you want to get inside someone’s head and write a sympathetic poem try the father of the murdered 8 year old boy who also has a six year old daughter who had a leg blown off and a wife with brain injuries.
he will be dealing with the effects of this unfathomable tragedy every moment of every single day the rest of his life. what moral equation can calculate the difference between the chosen suffering of the bomber with the innocent tragedy of this family?
amanda mckittrick ros

you don’t know how to write poetry
Dezz

It takes a very brave person
To feel comassion for someone
Who does not deserve it
in the eyes of society.
It takes an even braver person
To voice such compassion out loud.
Hate breeds only hate…
- SoPleasantlyStrange
  
  Amazing..
http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit

Omigod, did you guys not READ A Wrinkle in Time? When Meg had to defeat It with the one thing she had that It didn’t, and that was love?

Or did you not see the Buffy Season Six finale, where Willow is so enraged and grieved at Tara’s shooting that she goes all scary-veiny and almost ends the world, and the only way Xander stops her is love?

It’s like you think Amanda invented the concept of empathy just to piss people off. it’s called processing, it’s called coping. Show me the book or the show or movie that teaches the redemptive, healing power of hatred.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Robby-Cunningham/100001223538990 Robby Cunningham
  
  World War II was pretty healing, that whole Nazi infection was wiped out by plenty of good old homemade hatred, from America and Russia and Britain and France… or do you believe that the Nazis were not hated by the United Nations?
  - Linus
    
    Yeah, and we almost lost our souls in the process; e.g. the bombing of Dresden. But you can fight evil without resorting to hate: What the allies largely achieved in WW2 was not just victory but to choose justice and compassion over revenge and hatred. That is why today Germany is part of the family of nations again, and full of people who have a positive impact in the world.
jennifer626

A waste of the 2 minutes I spent scanning this crap, the time everyone else spent reading it, and the server space dedicated to hosting it. More than just “bad” but tasteless and self-indulgent. I’m not tweeting about how soul-sucking this was because I don’t want to expose anyone else to your thoughtless, egotistical attempt at humanizing a man who was pure evil.
- miserichik
  
  But you didn’t mind wasting time to post about it?
  - jennifer626
    
    Nope.
  - jennifer626
    
    Nope.
  - jennifer626
    
    Nope.
insignifikunt

i love this line of the poem because i’m sure many can relate to it… I do.

you don’t know how claustrophobic your house is until you can’t leave it.

right now i am finding emotions really difficult to experience due to medication but this line really hit me and not because of Boston which may have been the intent of the poem but we all take what we want from art
Page

(Sigh) Amanda, has there ever been a media event that you didn’t hijack for your own media coverage? This one, you really should have left alone. I won’t lower myself to name-calling and all that horseshit, but seriously….for once, couldn’t you have just backed away and kept silent? This was a horrible act by despicable people who MURDERED a child. You feel the need to write a POEM? No. Write a secret journal entry. Go to a church and light a candle. But for once, for ONCE, leave the Media Whore behind and just mourn like the rest of us.
- http://twitter.com/Personal_key Jade V
  
  People have a way with dealing with things. Art is one way to deal with this. She, and many others, choose to write and create in order to deal with things. She mourns with us. How is it wrong that she wants to connect with everyone and allow everyone to connect with each other? Now stop trolling.
- AT
  
  I don’t have a problem with her writing poems about her feelings, but her responses to the top comments are disgusting – Responding to constructive criticism with a ‘no, you’re wrong’ is ridiculous. How is that love and not hate?
- wilder125
  
  When did this pop up in the Media. Oh wait, i forgot. the internet is classified as media, even though the true media is all the blah blah news stations and newspapers which are usually where most of the internet news and opinion posters get their news from.
- http://www.facebook.com/bridgetamc Bridget McGraw-Bordeaux
  
  dude you’re asking the impossible. i mean, one thing that is both awesome and cringe worthy is that Amanda has never shown self restraint. in some ways this has made her art awesome and honest, and then in others, we end up with stuff like this.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=665096992 Brian Stevens
  
  Mourn like the rest of us?
  
  We each mourn in our unique way and shouldn’t receive criticism for our choice. When I go through bad times, I have to find a piano. If she chooses to write poems, so be it.
  
  If anyone thinks for one second that Amanda Palmer is praising this man, you’re the one who has lost it. Just sit back and calm down and do something productive. Walk away from the Internet. There is no need to get mad at strangers.
  
  Such behavior never brings about anything good in the world.
IDontReallyWantaUsername

I find myself apparently at odds with most of the detractors of this piece. I agree with the sentiments behind it, at least as I perceive them – empathy for him, recognition of the similarities between him and us, etc. I just don’t like the poem.

Why things that the subject (Dzhokhar, the reader, whoever we want to call them) doesn’t know? Why the repetition? I assume the commonplace things were there to signify his similarity to us, but I found them clunky. The ones about the soft rolls and the dissertation seemed particularly out of place. They presumably apply to the reader or the general “you,” not Dzhokhar, but they just don’t seem to have a clear purpose. All I can puzzle out of the dissertation one is an idea of lack of understanding of others, which is interesting but does not seem to be a strong theme throughout the rest of the poem. The choice of things to mention on the whole seems a bit haphazard, as if some of them were just included because they belong to a certain category – as if a certain number of everyday references were needed, and the same of Dzhokhar-specific references, and such.

If I’m missing something, of course, just point it out.
berthablue

Thank you for posting this. I was so sad on Friday night, not only for all the people that everyone recognizes as victims, but also for the two suspects, especially for the one who ended up half-bleeding-out in a cold boat. Hunting and killing them like animals doesn’t bring anyone back, and the fact that so many people are out for blood is frightening. I couldn’t imagine the horror I would feel lying there all alone and knowing so many people hated me. I kind of wished I could teleport and hold his hand while he decided to die or kill himself or surrender or whatever.
http://www.facebook.com/drobin71 Darren Robinson

I was going to post on FB but did feel like putting up with everything. Here is the post I did write: Hmmmm. Hate it or not, it posses an interesting point I have often thought about. Is it likely these persons did an unforgivable act that unfairly caused massive long term suffering to others, yes. Should he be held accountable for those actions, yes. Does he deserve a fair trial, yes. Does he deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law if found guilty, yes. Should he & his brother be turned into some type of demons, sub-humans, or some other clockwork orange? No, that is dangerous because it causes a false idea that “normal” people (or the “us”) cant do that (opposed to the “them” that can); but we can and to. Those two are/were human, just like any of us. We need to remember we are all capable of great good or great ill with the choices we make, and what ever those choices: we are still human.”
- Kate Andrews
  
  Wish I could upvote this more than once.
- lentower
  
  Well written.
  
  Thank you.
- Wow
  
  They’re still human, that doesn’t mean they’re not demons. A fucking bomb was dropped at the feet of an 8 year old child with the purpose of being blown up. They’re demons. Crazy, depressed, hurt, whatever. EVERYONE has problems. Everyone. Maybe theirs were worse than some, and they in all likelihood weren’t anywhere close to being as bad as others, and they choose a sick, sick way to act out on what they were feeling and for that they are disgusting. There was no purpose to what they did, nothing was accomplished except killing and maiming innocent civilians. I used to actually be an Amanda Palmer fan, but now I just think she’s pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. You think you’re smarter than you are, you’re not.
  - http://www.facebook.com/drobin71 Darren Robinson
    
    wow personal attack… I sorry, I didn’t realize those feelings were so strong a biting, stinging, unprovoked attack was called for.
- SMH
  
  they don’t have to be “turned into” anything, seems they did that all by themselves.
Kleverabevera

This poem sucks. I generally think all poems suck though. I admire that you allowed this comment section. Not many have the “nads” to do something like that.
http://twitter.com/DjWeideman DjWeideman

This man set a bomb down next to an eight-year-old child and calmly walked away. That child died. His sister lost a leg. His mother is fighting for her life. Let him burn.
Let him burn.
http://twitter.com/MollyHalloran Molly Halloran

All day during the “manhunt” I kept thinking, he must be so scared; he’s a child. What must he have been thinking all day, bleeding in that boat? I thought of myself at 19, at university in Rhode Island, thinking myself an adult but living off of mom and dad’s dollar, my biggest decision whether I would go to class or not. This boy made a decision that has effectively ended his life almost before he began to live it.

I hear so much hatred in the world, directed at the bombers and elsewhere. I think hatred is what made them do it. It’s not that I’m sympathetic to them, I hate what they have done, but I can’t find it within me to hate them as people. The public does not want to see Dzhokhar as a living breathing human being. They want to see him as a soulless monster because it is easier to demonize him than to see him as the broken child I believe he is. The things I am saying are things the people around me don’t want to hear: my family, old friends. But I think it is important to voice your opinions, especially when they’re ones people don’t like. I’m afraid that in the rush to find justice for the lives taken and the people wounded by the bombers, that instead of justice, revenge will be sought. People are talking about the bombing as an act of war, but can two people commit an act of war? Two people aren’t a nation. Two people aren’t an army. Dzhokhar is an American citizen, whether our country wants to claim him or not, and he has certain rights. I fear that in the rush to punish him, he will be denied those rights.

It’s not that I don’t want justice for the people who were hurt or killed in this senseless act of violence. I want the powers that be to be sure that they don’t lower their standards of conduct to the point that justice is not being served. I don’t believe in “an eye for an eye.” America has been left blind by so much eye gouging, to the fact that unconscionable acts have been committed by our own people in the name of justice. I know we don’t live in a perfect world, but shouldn’t we strive to live with peace in our hearts? Violence only begets more violence. You cannot achieve peace through war, just as you don’t achieve war through peace.

We need to show love to those who deserve it the least, because it is they who need it the most. We must live with kindness in our hearts…even toward our enemies.
- lentower
  
  Thank you.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  yes.
Somebody

My best friend used to live in Boston. Her best friend–someone who was so much a part of her it couldn’t even be called friendship any more– was missing for two days after the bombs went off. The day after he was found and safe, she discovered that another kid, one who she was also close to, was good friends with the kid who planted the bombs. Usually, when a disaster hits I feel sympathy. I pity those who were hurt and those who lost. But I don’t connect and it doesn’t change me as a person. This time it did. For the first time it felt so real because I have a friend who, for her, it was very close and personal and real. And when they announced that they had caught the kid, I didn’t celebrate like I thought I would. I was kind of glad, but mostly I felt sorry for the guy 3 years older than I am who will probably live the rest of his life in prison. That shocked me–feeling like that. And for a while I thought I should feel bad for feeling that way, until I figured that I didn’t wish he’d gotten away with it. I just wish he had not had to feel like this was his only choice. I wish he had not felt like he needed to hurt so many people. I wish that this kid had realized that as much potential was inside him to do bad there was also potential to do so much good.

Thank you for writing this poem.
- TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
  
  Being a real Harvard Square fixture in the past, most of my friends in the area A. live in Watertown B. Attend/went to Rindge. He lived around the corner from me in E. Cambridge. The bombing occurred on my old street when I attended Emerson. I spent most of last week in tears.
  I see no value in this little emission.
http://twitter.com/MoBea Mauria Ellenson

Poetry.
Dr. Destiny

Jesus Tapdancing diggingellen Christ, please shut up. Amanda wrote a poem. It’s art. You saying she doesn’t know Dz is manifest in you not knowing Amanda. Ergo, the poem is a natural extension of unknown fragments among known quantities. It’s a poem about us; what we see of ourselves in the terrorist. The thing is, there’s more than the terror in him, and in us (touch wood).

You goading an explanation out of Amanda Palmer because you’re too narcissistic to appreciate another person’s account without shitting all over it demands rebuttal:

Don’t explain the poem. People who need a poem explained to them wouldn’t understand the explanation.

diggingellen, you don’t know the way to make friends.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  If it’s such a good and heartfelt poem, then why doesn’t it rhyme? For example, shakespeare’s sonnets all rhymed.
Al Lawson

Yawn.
Oh, wait, it’s shocking and controversial. I forgot.

Yawn.
Brian Kerk

Write a poem for Martin Richard, why don’t you? Jeez.
ariel plath

beautiful. and i thought i would hate it. during the lockdown and hunt, all i could think is: 87 sq miles of city shut down, 9000 police, and this boy who escaped on foot. one boy, hiding, just one boy.
Wesleyan ’10

art should challenge perceptions and preconceptions and make us feel something

I don’t know if this is art, but it sure does that.

Thank you Amanda Palmer
aaron embry

this poem is its own 4.20 hangover.
Dani

I can understand how some would feel betrayed by what they perceive in the words here. But to me, Amanda’s just asking the questions we all ask ourselves, in the dark & the light: Is this my life? How the fuck did I get here? To me, this is beautiful.
Seth Gordon

To the haters: Please don’t hold Amanda Palmer’s seeming offense against her. She’s of a rare genus, from the suborder Donaldalia Trumpinae, creatures so sensitive that they actually CEASE TO EXIST if no one is looking at them. So they HAVE to say silly things like this in order to survive themselves.
http://roxannecooper.tumblr.com Roxanne

doooooooche.
SoPleasantlyStrange

Poetry is an art form used to express feelings, thoughts and emotions. These feelings, thoughts and emotions may or may not coincide with those of others. Poetry, as like other art forms, is not a report. It is not literal. It is not fact.
This poem was not intended in a literal sense. Not as facts. Not as statements. Not as a report, but I assume rather a series of thought provoking statements that read more like questions.
Does anyone know how they truly feel about what has happened? Better question – does anyone truly know what has happened? The only people that do are the people that were directly involved and even then, they only know a small portion of it. The media can inform of us of certain aspects, but even then it doesn’t tell any of us the truth.
Poetry should be read with an open mind and rather than criticising the writer for the subject or content of the poem, read it again, take a breath and before being negative try and remember that this person has shared their feelings, thoughts and emotions…and a part of their soul. How can you put someone down for doing that?
In high school, don’t we learn about CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM? What is the point of comments such as “this poem is its own 4.20 hangover.” and “Yawn. Oh, wait, it’s shocking and controversial. I forgot. Yawn.” ?? If you have criticism, be constructive! Not destructive. It just makes you look like a fool. Remember when we were children and we were told “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”? I believe that should always a apply.

Please proceed with caution and respect….
- http://roxannecooper.tumblr.com Roxanne
  
  This poem is bullshit.
  - http://roxannecooper.tumblr.com Roxanne
    
    But I think the big donate button above the comments is clever!
  - SoPleasantlyStrange
    
    Why are you replying to my post with saying “This poem is bullshit.” when I’ve just talked about CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM? How about you expand on that? Why is it bullshit? How could it be improved?
    - jennifer626
      
      It could be improved upon by (a) not completely sucking, (b) not attempting to paint a horrible evildoer as someone who deserves empathy for his sad little confused mind, and (c) not having been written immediately after this act of terror, when even a poorly written piece of crap will still have a very hurtful impact on the true victims of the bombing who stumble across it and see that the man who killed their family members and mutilated their friends is now having odes written to him.
http://www.facebook.com/zscarlson Zach Carlson

To everyone getting angry, please take a deep breath and read this:

Everyone in the world no matter what he or she does deserves empathy. Empathy is understanding that people are the different from you. You can’t simply put yourself in Dzhokhar’s shoes and say “I wouldn’t have done this so how could he?” You aren’t him. Obviously what he did is tragic and sorrowful. But no one is inherently “evil.” People that carry out acts like these either have chemical imbalances like anti-social personality disorder or intense depression/anxiety/anger that is either genetically predisposed, the product of deep psychological trauma, or both. So to negate this and think of these perpetrators as normal healthy people choosing to destroy is ignorant. It fosters hate and distances “bad guys” from “good guys.” In reality good and bad is a spectrum and it is what allows people that “seemed like the most innocent nice kid in world” to do these things. So please, I implore you to have empathy for EVERYONE. Have empathy for victims first and foremost but also have empathy for the poor soul who suffers from a chemical lack of moral conscious that he or she can do nothing about. Have empathy for a man that lost his kids in a car crash and experienced such depression that he committed suicide. Have empathy for terrorists who have been brainwashed for a cause or witnessed such destruction to their country from a foreign presence that they feel an insatiable need to retaliate. And yes even have empathy for Dzhokhar because whatever the reasons for his committing this unbelievably terrible act of destruction. He is still human and one of us. And labeling someone as “evil” is childish. From what I gather Ms. Palmer was simply trying to start a dialogue like this.
- lentower
  
  Well expressed.
  
  Thank you.
  
  Hopefully, it will help the haters.
- SMH
  
  “tragic & sorrowful” would be him getting in a car while drunk & killing somebody in a DUI. Hateful & sociopathic would be closer to the mark
  - http://www.facebook.com/zscarlson Zach Carlson
    
    Yes but my whole point is that “sociopathic” does not equal “evil.” It’s a medical condition that people can’t do anything about. “Evil” doesn’t exist. I understand it’s cathartic to really demonize him and I think that’s warranted for a period of time after an event like this. People need to express their anger, grief, and frustration. I’m just asking how can you justify prolonged, intense hatred toward anyone when they have a chemical imbalance or have been subjected against their will to trauma (in the broadest sense of the word). Because these are the only two reasons people do things like this. And neither are within their control. There isn’t a race of evil people that go around doing evil things. Dzhokhar has a lot more in common with many us than most people would care to admit because it scares the shit out of them.
Patrick Francis

Haha, you people have to realize it’s not the message we’re angry about. It’s totally unintelligible anyway. It’s just that this is terrible goddamn poetry. Rilke she ain’t.
- http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
  
  Every time I hear someone say that I hear in my head “It Doesn’t Even Rhyme!”
aaron embry

please, teach me how it felt to be in the womb. it must have been at least a little warmer than this.

please, teach me how intimately they’re recording our every move on
closed-circuit cameras so we can see our faces reflected back
through through the pulp.

please, teach me banjo picking fingerings.

please, teach me how little we’ve been paying attention to our legs.

please, teach me how many times we can say we’re coming until we just stop believing ourselves.

please, teach me how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is while they give me head underwater.

please, teach me how many vietnamese soft rolls to order.

please, teach me (i really am dying to find out) how convinced our parents were that having children was, absolutely, without question, the correct thing to do.

please, teach me how precious iphone battery time is before hiding in the bottom of the boat compromises my ability to appreciate hiding in the bottom of a boat.

please, teach me how to reconcile with fucking parents.

please, teach me how it’s possible to feel total compassion in one moment and total disconnection in the next moment.

please! teach! me! how! things! will! so! inevitably! change! so!!! incredibly!!! fast!!!

please, teach me how to make something, and put the instructions on the internet.

please, teach me how to make sense of this massive parade.

please, teach me how to believe in anyone.

please, learn me how to tell that there witless creature in teh chair next to us that we’ve
been peeking at her dissertation draft and there’s a grammatical typo in
the actual file name.

please, explain to me how we might explain ourselves.

please, teach me about soy milk.

please, teach me how claustrophobic our house is before you leave it.

please, teach me to let go, not just in some bushes between cambridge and watertown.

please, tell me where our friends went.

we may never learn how to truly dance but let’s give it a shot anyway.

please, teach me how our lives manage to move twenty six miles forward and twenty eight miles back.

please, teach me how to pay my due in our debts.

please, teach me how to integrate this partnership to finally escape and breathe.

please, teach me how come us people run our goddamn knees into the ground anyway.

please, teach me how to measure the value of the twenty dollar bill clutched in our hurting hands.

please, teach me how we walked into this trap so obliviously.

please, teach me how to adjust our rearview mirror.

please, teach me how to mourn our dead brother.

please, teach me how to drive this car.

can anyone tell me the way to new york.

I do not know the way to new york.

I can learn the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york?

please, teach me the way to new york.
InnocentFishingBoat

I want to start off by saying, you’re free to write whatever you please. Then I’d like to ask, why not write about an eight year old boy that just went to witness a race. Or about those whose lives were irreparably changed? Or how about how some people going to cheer on friends, family and even strangers were literally blown to bits because that monster chose to build a bomb an detonate it amidst the crowd? We all have choices in life, his were ALL WRONG. I personally don’t care how he feels and you can bet he doesn’t care how you feel either. Had you been in the crowd, he would have gladly killed you too. Why not write about all the Red Sox games Martin Richard will never see? Or how about how Krystal Campbell’s grandmother is going to miss having tea with her granddaughter. Maybe one about how Lu Lingzi will never get to realize her dreams after college because she was murdered by a cold and calculating piece of filth?
Had your daughter been one of the victims, I wonder if your poem would be for jafar? (I know that’s not his name, but that’s all he’s getting from me)
- cabbagesoup
  
  This is like asking why the poem isn’t about innocent Iraqi children blown up by American drone strikes. It feels like a pertinent point but it’s actually just a way of asserting some kind of moral superiority.
- Ruth
  
  Because she is from Cambridge herself and trying to make sense of why someone from the same town can grow up to act out such an atrocity?
- Danielm80
  
  I was with you until “jafar.”
  - InnocentFishingBoat
    
    So that’s dang near all of it. I’ll take it. I figured the Disney reference wouldn’t go over big but it was my risk to take.
Sven79

He didn’t “let that guy go;” “that guy” escaped on his own initiative when the two losers went into a store together.

You don’t know how to get the story right.
You don’t care about the facts.

Repetition talent
- lentower
  
  Sven79
  
  Please get YOUR facts straight.
  
  Much of the media coverage has said that the brothers let the SUV driver go.
  
  So if you really have to BLAME someone.
  If you really have to HATE someone.
  Blame and hate the media outlets, and their sources in the police, FBI, and
  the governments.
  
  But I prefer you stop hating and blaming.
  - Sven79
    
    So the truth is now considered hate? Thanks for enlightening me. One should never take early reports from live tv as being completely factual; history has shown that more often than not, they get many things wrong. It’s nice of you to rationalize the errors, but they’re still errors. Where did I hate or blame? I think you are the one with issues, as I only offered constructive criticism. I just pointed out (correctly) that the carjack victim told the authorities that he escaped on his own.
    
    So since several news organizations reported (or hoped) that it was likely that the terrorists were right wing Americans, It would have been Ok for MS.PALMER to write a compassionate poem about the wrong group?
    
    Getting things correct is not considered as hate or blame by most rational people. I prefer that you stop trying to read minds and stop judging others
    - lentower
      
      The problems with both your posts here are:
      
      * Your language comes across as: Belittling. Berating. Unkind. Discourteous. Hateful.
      
      * As I already pointed out, you use this hateful language against someone whose is merely using an out-of-date version of this “fact”. Who, obviously, hadn’t had the time to get current with a complex, poorly reported news story.
      
      * It’s not at all clear, that the current version of this “fact” is any more true.
      The SUV owner might have changed his story to look less “stupid”.
      The media could still be misreporting based on bad sources.
      
      * It’s quite likely that the “truth” is somewhere in the middle. That one brother stayed with the SUV driver, but got distracted enough that the SUV driver got out of the car, and that brother decided to not gun him down there. We will probably never know the truth here. I suspect that Dzhokhar’s and the SUV driver’s versions of this incident will be quite different.
      
      * If you had calmly, politely, and kindly pointed out that the “fact” reported by the media had changed, we would not be having this conversation.
      - Sven79
        
        My first post could maybe be considered a bit snarky, but hateful? Come on, puh-leeeze!
        
        I was merely using the author’s use of repetition to point out the errors; I really don’t think anyone needs to call the ACLU. I asked several other people to read my second post and they found nothing hateful, nothing impolite and certainly no blaming at all. I guess some people are just looking to be offended, but I won’t ever let that tactic work on me. I won’t be censored by someone who doesn’t agree, especially when there was nothing offensive in my posts at all. If you have a concrete example, show it. I have been, and will continue to be polite and courteous, and you will continue to take any disagreement as hate.
        
        Those who see everything as hateful, rude, and discriminatory in some way do a great disservice to those who are truly affected by hate. Don’t take life so seriously; everything is not a battle
  - Sven79
    
    My reply seems to have gone missing? Quite strange, But I’ll enter it again. My facts ARE STRAIGHT. My info comes from the official police report. Please show my “blaming and hating.” Go ahead, I’ll wait. Nothing? I didn’t think so. I didn’t realize that facts are now considered hate.Thanks for enlightening me.
    
    Nice try at rationalizing the incorrect statements, but the media is often wrong in early reports; therefore their Statements shouldn’t be treated as gospel.
    
    I prefer that you stop trying to read my mind and judge me for things that aren’t stated.
    - lentower
      
      I also replied earlier, but it’s also not currently visible here.
      
      Might turn up in a few hours.
      Might turn up if you exit your browser, and restart it.
      Might turn up if you clear your browser caches, exit, then restart it.
      
      The reply is visible a few screens down,
      under the “Activity” tab at
      
      http://disqus.com/lentower/
Marionette26

Everything here is making me ill. Except possibly the poem. What is WRONG with people? A) It is absolutely completely and totally not okay for anyone, hater or lover, to tell the other side the way they are processing things is wrong. ESPECIALLY if they were touched personally or closely by this tragedy – outright blatant hatred is a normal reaction. They may not move past that. They don’t have to. So please don’t tell them it’s poisonous for them, harmful, etc. (although please, haters, don’t hate on all muslims like I saw one guy doing). Those who react with empathy are just as legitimate. It’s another way to process. So long as they’re not talking about how it was alright for him to do it, or how he should be set free or some shit, there’s nothing wrong with what they’re saying. They couldn’t make themselves feel blinding hatred any more than a hater could make themselves feel empathy. Which is FINE. There are also those who are rather… neutral? Inbetween the two? The point is, we all process this differently. We’re all coping differently. So stfu and get off it. B) If Amanda was a huge star like Lady GaGa or some shit I would agree this poem was probably a bad idea. Amanda has a small and loyal fanbase. Amanda is an independent artist, who honest to god, is in love with the arts of it all. We’ve all seen time and time again that this is her method – she’s not a type A personality. She doesn’t hold back or edit. I thought that was part of why so many of us love her. I understand if you think this poem is in poor taste. I understand if you think she shouldn’t have posted it. It’s fine if you say that. I don’t understand a violent, visceral reaction. This poem isn’t hurting anyone except fans who are letting it hurt them. This is Amanda’s blog. No one made you come here. No one made you read this. If you are angry about the poem, attack the poem (which some people are doing, which is great and fine). Don’t attack Amanda – it’s a fucking poem. We’re all interpreting it differently, and you can choose to interpret it in such a way so that you don’t get completely brain-melting angry.
Seriously. People. We’ve had enough terrible things happen. Fighting in our own little cult (err… community) isn’t going to help with the stress, or help anyone heal. Grow up.
- http://www.facebook.com/LucyM121 Lucy Merriman
  
  “This poem isn’t hurting anyone except fans who are letting it hurt them.” I’m not sure you can really say that, though. You’re right, people definitely shouldn’t be insulting AFP or making threats. But some people who’ve been hurt by the tragedy are also feeling hurt by this poem, and that feeling is valid too.
  
  It’s Amanda’s right to write whatever she wants. But if what she writes is personally hurtful to someone who is also suffering, it’d be nice for her to acknowledge it. The problem with this attitude of “fuck the haters, I’mma do me, you don’t like it, leave,” is that you’re shifting the responsibility of what you create onto someone else. It’s not evil, it’s just unkind. I like Amanda and her music, and I’ve never had so many people tell me I should “leave” or” get over it” because I felt hurt before here. I like this blog, and it pained me to read the poem because I felt like it was callous, and that’s not usually what I feel from her.
  
  I’d like to be able to talk with her about it, but this whole comments section has become rather messy.
yvessaintdid@gmail.com

We are the bombers!!!
4onthefloorTom

Not sure what I can actually add to this discussion other than this: Amanda is a writer. So when something happens that stresses her out, or makes he mad or sad or happy…she writes. In the same way that a musicians plays his instrument in order to gain a sense of control of his life when it is crazy, or an athlete goes to the gym to release stress. These are healthy releases of stress.

Committing crime, being self destructive, or lashing out violently at other people are not healthy responses. How these two young men arrived at a place where “Let’s set off bombs and kill innocents” sounded like a good idea is something we may never know. We will find out HOW they did it for sure…but the WHY is more elusive.

I’s venture to say that no one needs to be apologetic for how they process and deal with this tragedy…as long as they are HEALTHY RESPONSES.

I feel for the victims…for their parents, their kids, and the kids some of them will never have. For the brave helpers who have seen things that will forever scar them. I feel for Jeff Bauman, who lost his legs but still is SMILING! I am sooo sad for the man who lost his little boy, and had his drt. and wife maimed. I feel sad for the parents of the bombers, who clearly are overwhelmed and in shock. These two were their babies…how did they turn into killers??? Imagine what they are going through. Of course the Mom is in denial. It is a natural response.

No one wins in this situation.

I submit that we each need to find our own way to deal with what we have seen, be it punching a punching bag, playing some REALLY LOUD OBNOXIOUS PUNK ROCK, or writing a poem. Whatever you need to do to get this angst out of you head. It will do no good there.

Amanda did her thing, now you need to do yours.
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  this
Obamatheterrorist

You are a stupid libtard commie piece of trash. I wish he blew your legs off
Iraff

well uh to say nothing of the subject matter, i’ll say that repeating the last four lines is such a hamfisted fucking undergraduate-poetry-class way of trying to force poignancy. This reads like a bunch of lines you thought might sound good in a poem and then you just put them together without any thematic connection and without any notion of what you want to say. It’s like a parrot watched a poetry reading and learned how to perfectly mimic the cadence and vocal rhythm of someone reading a really good poem but the only words it knows are “piss” and “ass”.
- http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
  
  Repetition and refrain are huge parts of poetry, they’re one of the forms that people study when they’re learning about poetry. There are actually quite a few styles based on repetition; pantoum, villanelle, not to mention song writing, which, hey, is a thing that Amanda does pretty frequently.
  
  “but I have promises to keep
  and miles to go before I sleep
  and miles to go before I sleep”
  
  -Robert Frost
  - http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing
    
    Yes, “repetition and refrain are huge parts of poetry,” but that doesn’t make this poem not bad. I think the problem here is that Robert Frost was actually good at it, and not trying to hijack a major event for attention. Frost didn’t *need* to do that to get his work noticed.
    - http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
      
      People write about tragedies and wars and disasters and atrocities. It is how they deal with them. Famous people and nobodies alike.
      
      Your taste in poetry is simply that, YOUR taste. Like it or don’t, disapprove of it or not. It’s still poetry and it was written for, I can only guess, a vast number of reasons.
      - http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing
        
        I guess you missed the point so I’ll reiterate from another of my comments:
        
        This may be a terrible, teen-angst-level poem, but it’s accomplished its goal: Getting Amanda Palmer Attention.
        
        Palmer doesn’t care about any entity involved here, aside from herself. Getting Amanda Palmer attention is pretty much the only thing Amanda Palmer really *does.* Positive, negative, it doesn’t matter.
        
        The best thing we can do is *never pay attention to Amanda Palmer,* unless it’s to point out that we should *never pay attention to Amanda Palmer.*
      - http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
        
        I didn’t miss your point, I just don’t agree with it. That’s not the impression I’ve ever gotten from her.
      - http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing
        
        If after this, the Twitter-limit plea, TED, asking musicians to play for free, and the Kickstarter fiasco you still don’t get it, it’s unlikely you ever will.
      - http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing
        
        There have been enough critiques at this point that it’s fair to say that this poem is *objectively* terrible. Sorry you’re a fan of this person.
allegro2us

The poem opens the door for me to be strong and take the hard path of empathy and forgiveness. It’s a good piece of work.
Guest

Your poem, and the poem written in response to your have left me full of tears and chills. Thank you. Thank you both. I am a lover of words. A needer of words.
BrittNoelle

Your poem and the one written in response have left me in tears. With literal chills. I needed so badly to hear all of these things. Thank you. Thank you both. I am a lover of words. A needer of words. I, apparently, needed these words without even knowing it.

My heart is broken all around. For everyone involved. There is nothing easy about this situation. It’s horrific. It strikes me that so many felt the need to argue here….in my eyes this should be a time of togetherness. I guess I’m an optimist. I can hope.
Camel

…Are you older than 13? What the fuck is this
- wilder125
  
  The same thing it is elsewhere Pinky. Brain creating random thing that results in a
  
  smorgasbord of replies running the full spectrum… though I think someone hoping her legs would be blown off in a comment farther down the list, was a little over the top.
http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney

Since when did poetry need facts or sources?
Since when was art how you got your news?

She can’t speak for him,
I can’t speak for you

Him being a person doesn’t lessen your pain
Him being a person doesn’t change
what he did

But maybe understanding
Breeds less blind hate
Maybe compassion
Can ease your own ache

Because I see no monsters, no devils
Only ghosts
Of things that were done
Being done again

after all,
People are just people
People are just people
People are just people like you

(apologies to Regina for borrowing a line or 3)
- http://amandapalmer.net/ Amanda Palmer
  
  this is one the best responses i’ve had the pleasure of reading on my own blog.
  
  i am so grateful to be connected
  
  with
  
  this
  
  in a world
  
  like
  
  this.
  - http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
    
    It was just going to be a regular post, and then the first 2 lines happened. Thank you.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
  
  i love this. <3
carrie

I love you so much ap. this is lovely.
RosalindFranklinFish

I honestly dispute that commenters here are in a position to assert that Dzokhar Tzarnaev was a psychotic killer who was totally self-motivated – details of his mental state, the influence of his brother, his involvement with extremist sects have not been disclosed (equally I don’t believe people are in a position to portray him as a victimized 19 year-old who has been shot and hasn’t been Miranda-ized either, those details do not transcend his involvement in the murder of 5 people and the injury of many more). But that’s not really the point. The point is that the interpretations of single individuals regarding a peice of art cannot possibly be allowed to censor that art. I consider this poem to be a beautiful and moving account of the world’s response to the suspect of a terrible, terrible act of terrorism. Others disagree, and that’s fine, too. By nature art is reactionary. Art thrives on response. Art thrives on debate. But the accusations some are making are ludicrous and disturbingly censorial. From Page: ‘Amanda, has there ever been a media event that you didn’t hijack for your own media coverage?’ This is hardly publicity for AFP and The Grand Theft Orchestra. It is a considered, skilfully crafted, really, really beautiful in my eyes, commentary on something horrific. The point at which people are incapable of publishing their own responses to events with global impact without being accused of hungering for media attention is the point at which I sort of start to despair for the future of human creativity. This is how some people deal with things they can’t get their head round. They make art. They make songs, pictures, movies, books, poems. First they scream. They smash their fists against the walls. They can’t work out how to switch off their thoughts. So they WRITE. They write and they write and they write like motherfuckers and sometimes they produce something astonishing, they produce something which will still matter 10, 20, even 100 years from now. And I don’t know if this poem will be one of those that stand the test of time and manage to communicate the world’s response at this time to future generations, but I think it might deserve to be. Sorry for the essay…
Reznore

I don’t like poetry…but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this.
It’s just trying to put some humanity into some monstruosity.
Because it’s humans like you and me who do this kind of stuff on regular basis ,putting bombs , school shooting…
They are not a bunch of evil aliens from outer space.
If we start to lack empathy , we’re just playing the same game .
It does not mean that we should cry day and night for what’s his name , he had a choice afterall.
He hurt people and he wastes his whole life , his brother is dead.
But I feel sorry for him , what he did was senseless.He wastes his whole life for …probably some very stupid reason.
If he was trying to say something , well I’m not sure anybody’s willing to listen now.
Jake

The shit that comes out of your body isn’t art and neither is this poem. You suck as a poet and as a human being.
http://www.facebook.com/ona.mclaughlin Ona Luna

“you don’t know how to make s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ a bomb, that will murder innocent people, but the instructions are on the internet.” There. Fixed.
http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing

This may be a terrible, teen-angst-level poem, but it’s accomplished its goal: Getting Amanda Palmer Attention.

Palmer doesn’t care about any entity involved here, aside from herself. Getting Amanda Palmer attention is pretty much the only thing Amanda Palmer really *does.* Positive, negative, it doesn’t matter.

The best thing we can do is *never pay attention to Amanda Palmer,* unless it’s to point out that we should *never pay attention to Amanda Palmer.*
marsbzlightyear

and you thought Twilight was bad
- wilder125
  
  felt like posting it again, or someone had the same thought? The wording’s exactly the same at any rate
  - marsbzlightyear
    
    same as what and who?
Tom

For me it’s pretty simple.

People deal with tragedy, miracles, love death, everything, life, in different ways.

One of those ways is writing poetry. Others might paint, write songs, write in their diary, talk, cry, sleep, whatever. Amnanda wrote a poem.

If you are against her writing poetry as part of her own individual method of processing, ask yourself why.

She could’ve wrote it and kept it to herself, or wrote it and publish it to her blog, as she has done. But I don’t think it makes a difference, because either way she would have wrote the poem. To tell someone not to write a poem is too similar for me to people who tell others not to cry when they’re upset, or discourage people to talk about things that have upset them. They’re two different ways of communicating. You can’t stop someone from writing a poem, and why would you rather she kept it secret that she wrote this, or published it months later? That’s lying to yourself about how people process things, it’s a covering of one output of freedom of expression in favour of another.

And then what use is it to be accepting of this poem if it had been a dark and hateful message, but to reject it if it is anything else? I can think of a lot of great poems that I couldn’t sympathise with, but that gave me a different perspective and made me empathise. I think it’s childish to only want to hear one channel of thought or see one side of the picture. I’d rather be unsure of how I feel but to know I’ve experienced more of the truth than to be comfortable in how I feel but based only on a fraction of the truth.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  She could also have rhymed, but she chose not to. Why?
http://twitter.com/cedarlili Cedar Sanderson

Thank god he didn’t know the way to New York. And that we know where he is now, and will for every last day of his life. He gave up his rights when he took the lives of others, both those he ended, and those he maimed for life. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for glorifying a psychopath.
Dolph

This makes me cringe. Terrible poetry above a link to the Boston fund above a link begging for $5 donations. Just shameless.
http://www.theunexpurgatedpress.tumblr.com/ Chester Whelks

What’s more offensive, the title or that you call it a poem? Neither, it’s the donation button below it. Really Amanda? Haven’t you had enough money from your sycophantic fans? The only talent I will commend you on having, is a knack for making tenuous links between what people give you, and what you give them. You always seem to get the better end of the stick to me.
- http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
  
  As far as I know, that donate button is always there, she didn’t add it to the end of this post. That’s just part of the website.
  - http://www.theunexpurgatedpress.tumblr.com/ Chester Whelks
    
    It never crossed my mind that the donation button was was unique to this particular post, I was just shocked to see it at all after the Kickstarter furore. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone ask for contributions toward the upkeep of their site, unless it’s a communal site like a discussion board.
    - http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
      
      Well, I don’t think it’s for the upkeep of the site (but I could be totally wrong here) I think it’s just part of her ongoing crowd sourcing for further music events and tours. Crowd sourcing as a way of continuing a music career so that everything goes back into producing more stuff rather than paying a big company to run it.
      - http://www.theunexpurgatedpress.tumblr.com/ Chester Whelks
        
        I followed the Kickstarter controversy. Saw the Ted talk. Still don’t buy it. I’m not naive about how little most Independent artists make these days, but I’m confident in going out on a limb and suggesting that Amanda has graduated from the gutter now. I had some respect for Amanda when she was a Dresden Doll, but everything since stinks of ego-masturbation. Even the act of her ‘giving’ her music away feels like just another way of her getting something out of this supposedly reciprocal relationship with her fanbase. At the end of the day, she gets all the adulation, remuneration, and opportunities to speak her piece and live her dreams. All her fans get, is the opportunity to be fans. To feed her ever inflating ego.
      - http://twitter.com/cheesecake101 Bebhinn McInerney
        
        As a fan, that’s not how I feel about it, I feel like I can contribute to something good that’s being made, and support someone I like. But I’m just one person, I’m sure there are other people who feel like you do too.
- wilder125
  
  Funny, I thought the donation button existed on the whole site. In order to stop it for this post, she’d have to have it removed entirely. Then have someone recode the site for it to reappear later.
  - http://www.theunexpurgatedpress.tumblr.com/ Chester Whelks
    
    As I said in a previous comment “It never crossed my mind that the donation button was was unique to this particular post, I was just shocked to see it at all after the Kickstarter furore.” I don’t care. I read the poem, didn’t find it to be particularly offensive, just pretty poor and deliberately provocative, then I saw her ‘handing the hat around’. STILL. After that million dollars. Being given money on the street because you’re obviously down on your luck enough to need to make such an ass of yourself is completely different from an International alternative icon asking for money from your already paying fanbase.
http://twitter.com/bostonkas K

Oh dear… Amanda, it’s much too soon for this. However you feel about this man, it’s too soon. There are still people in the hospital, still funerals to be held. If nothing else, this is incredibly insensitive and tacky.
http://twitter.com/TheWhaler Meg

Someday you will need to grow up (or maybe you wont? who knows!). I don’t understand how you can write a poem like this, and then act surprised when people are upset by it. Learn to take criticism with grace instead of backpedaling and saying “That’s not what I meant, this poem isn’t about him” and then making a ted talk about it.

For the record I do have some empathy for him. I just think this is a self absorbed bad way of expressing that.
- wilder125
  
  Anyone who “grows up” has lost the ability to see wonder in the world.
  - Gregory
    
    Part of the magic of growing up is discovering that people who parrot these stupid, cliched ideas (“lost the ability to see wonder in the world”! – who are you? AP herself?) are full of shit. It’s so boring and limited to will yourself into perpetual adolescence.
    - wilder125
      
      Considering I saw my dad come down the stairs one night, say “Hi honey” to my mother then dive onto the couch. And only then did he realize I was there after delivering a big kiss. I think “stupid” doesn’t apply. But eh.
    - wilder125
      
      and being 36 when i saw it, that was an interesting feat of agility considering he has bad knees, arthritis, and a bad stomach
Sam

Sometimes I think we all have to step away from our computers and get somebody to hug us. All sides of the discussion are killing each other here. It’s terrible.
- wilder125
  
  I honestly can’t figure out why a suggestion to go get a hug would cause a dislike for you.
K Paul Boyev

A Bambi-eyed Bomber named Dzhokhar
Was known to be quite a pot smoker
His brother expires
As he squeals his tires
His driving t’was ever mediocre
Bustr

Sounds like an artist trying to understand a murderer in her own way. I don’t see what the big deal is. No worse than the speculations of media hacks.

Never heard of you Amanda, but you seem talented.
- Diane
  
  This woman asks her fans to pay all of the costs of her music and living like a beggar on the street, and then has the nerve to ask artists more talented but less famous than she is to open for her for free, because she feels that opening for her is payment enough. She has zero talent and you should probably look into someone more before giving them a compliment, you contrarian.
  - http://www.facebook.com/LucyM121 Lucy Merriman
    
    Compliments don’t hurt people. Like, just giving compliments to people is in no way a bad thing. Plus, you can like someone’s art and compliment it without liking their personality.
http://twitter.com/robotbacon Robotbacon

This is the exact reason I hate “artists”. They make it embarrassing to even use the word “artist” to refer to oneself, even if you’re a professional creator of art.

When you can’t make something good, make something loud, I guess. Stay tuned for my poem about the self-important sickness that is Amanda Palmer.
- wilder125
  
  It was loud? Man, I should be careful about reading this at work. I wonder if my supervisor flinched any.
http://www.facebook.com/sg603 Supriya Gunda

HAHAHA i thought you were at your worst when you played creep on ukelele at the Boston Music awards then i really thought you one upped yourself with your kickstarter campaign but… holy shit womyn… you’ve done it again….. you’re the next Tiger Woods and this is par for the course of shit right here
- http://www.facebook.com/sg603 Supriya Gunda
  
  i
  hope she likes my comment i was going to slip in something akin to
  “isn’t neil gaiman ever like. chill out sweetie, you’re killing my
  career,” but i didn’t wanna reference the patriarchy even if she’s the
  one who signed herself up for it
- wilder125
  
  The campaign resulted in the donators pretty much spending the same amount they would have for a cd unless they decided to be generous. And those who didn’t donate to the campaign wound up with a free download they were never generous to.
- TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
  
  haha, I was totally at the Liberty Hotel for that one. I went to get a drink during that performance. Must she copy my beloved album? Let’s stick with the reggae version. Because it does it no justice. It’s actually funny. we see right thru you, dude!
SPM

this actually reads like a poem about yourself. You have very little empathy. that’s why most of your art is so bad.
- Karina S
  
  Even if it was a poem about herself, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have empathy. Also, in case you hadn’t figured this out yet, art is SUBJECTIVE. It’s purpose, execution, and interpretation are never either good or bad. It’s fine that you don’t like the poem, but don’t call her a bad artist because of your own opinion. People, this is one woman’s exploration of the bombings. Palmer is brave to put her own perspective into the world, and just because you disagree with her mode of expressing empathy that doesn’t merit you attacking her as a person.
  
  Assuming a person’s morals based on their outward actions and then feeling validated for punishing them is the exact shallow-minded impulsive behavior that the Tsarnaev’s probably went through. In this day, of all days when the world has suffered so much recently, how about a little unconditional empathy and kindness, especially for those who express themselves publicly in hopes of helping others.
graymalking

“you don’t know how to make sense of this massive parade.
you don’t know how to believe anyone anymore.”

Exactly, Amanda. Exactly.
- TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
  
  riveting.
SPM

I reiterate. This poem is about you, not him, just like you said. You have no empathy. This is why most of your art is so terrible. You literally do not have the capability to speak in any voice besides that of a rich white person. The one who can’t get away from their parents is you.
- wilder125
  
  If she was rich, why would she ask ahead for a place to practice and stay before a concert
  - The End
    
    Er, so she can gratuitously skim money from her fans, which is HOW she became rich. That’s how she rolls.
    - jennifer626
      
      That’s how she soft rolls.
Nameless

Is anyone here actually surprised that AP is an opportunistic attention whore who is using this tragedy to draw attention to herself?
- wilder125
  
  So, only those who are not famous, are allowed to have opinions?
  - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
    
    That makes no sense as a response to Nameless’ statement. If this poem seemed at all…. genuine…. or compassionate//// mmmmmaybe there wouldn’t be a slew of commentors tearing it to pieces. which is probably what she wants.
    - wilder125
      
      Or just a variety of replies. You can’t get the full spectrum of opinions on anything without all variety of opinions being expressed. Though I think one commenter’s wish down the list here that her legs had been blown off, was a little over the top.
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        everyone is feeling enough already. The Commonwealth is enraged. Who knows if it was staged. I gave her a chance when I saw the link tweeted. But I didn’t want to start the morning being angry at a POEM, of all things. the fact that a POEM should invoke such anger is awfully indicative of its nature.
      - wilder125
        
        In my case. I read her tweets about the poem resulting in someone wanting her legs blown off, right after I woke up this morning. and decided to come and read the poem and the responses. I haven’t been ticked off yet. Though I must admit, that decongestants and caffeine are probably why I’ve got a giggle trying to dig it’s way out of my throat all the time.
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        I nod my head. I just see this as definitely not creating any sense of oneness, it is doing quite the opposite.
  - Nameless
    
    She is not posting an opinion. She is using the shock value of her poem to draw traffic to her site, where she asks for $5 to support her art. I commented that we shouldn’t be surprised, because if she is willing to raise $1M and then ask musicians to play for free (which she only recanted after the backlash), then of COURSE she’ll write a controversial poem and ask for $5. I personally think it’s gross of her to use this tragedy for shameless and tasteless self promotion.
    - wilder125
      
      I thought the tweets from her about the variety of replies from people who already came to her site, resulted in people like me who don’t come here very often coming just for the sheer variety of the replies to her poem.
- Diane
  
  No one is at all, hence the comments.
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

I like how you appended a donate button, also for YOURSELF, with $5.00 conveniently entered for YOU. It’s true, you lack empathy, and are brimming with ego, you ugly thing. This, like your music, contains no message.
- wilder125
  
  It’s hard not to brim with an ego. Everyone has one.
  - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
    
    stating the obvious? ooh ooh and an Id and a SUPERego tooooo. It’s easy NOT to brim with ego, it’s called selflessness
    - wilder125
      
      Funny thing about my post. I posted it, wondered why it sounded familiar, and pulled up a wiki reference. Never read the guy. Never heard about Id and Superego being 3 parts of the psyche until today. I think I tripped, rolled, and sneezed over a documentary in 1995 or something
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        ta-da! thoughtful debate becomes learning experience. <3
      - wilder125
        
        all net conversations are. hah
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        & every blip of your precious life
      - wilder125
        
        exactly
- wilder125
  
  Without it, a person isn’t alive. Since an ego is one of the bare basic components of a human personality. Avoid having an ego, and you’re not a whole person
  - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
    
    ah, but when one brims with hubris… I speak of egoTIST. there’s a sense of humility that encapsulates the essence of an artist…
    - wilder
      
      Which, if you watched a podcast or read some things about her, you’d discover she does have that.. but eh, people have to come to their own conclusions from what they see and read. Which is proven in all the variety of replies to the poem. Everyone is coming to their own. And any author/song creator who doesn’t appreciate a variety of responses, is a stagnant author
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        I’ve met her several times, I have friends that know/ have worked with her, I’ve read plenty of literature. I used to be a fan until she spiraled into a solo career/self-promotion, wringing everything I liked about the schtick of The Dolls. Currently she is exalting her popularity as if she is God’s gift to starving artists. let alone the TED talk.
    - wilder125
      
      I posted a response. and it disappeared.
      
      Basic boil down. An author who does not appreciate and enjoy all variety of responses to something he/she writes, is a stagnant author. Amanda’s actually doing right by choosing to love even the angry ones.
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        Obviously. We’re not saying she IS one. Like anyone, we take compliments and criticism, even if the controversy is (probably) desired in this case. I’m sure she loves the haters more, which is why this poem is not written WITH THE RIGHT INTENTION. not to console, not to LOVE. none of the above.
      - wilder125
        
        Which intentions are right for a poem to have then. Right for the author or right for the reader. My poetry that I used to write was never good enough for publication, and never went beyond the format I was taught in 7th grade. Which would explain why it never published. However, one of them had a completely different intent read into it by a minister who told me that he’d hated me since the first second he met me. Apparently the concept that if he’d just told me the first second he’d met me, I’d have left, never entered his mind.
- TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
  
  ooh ooh! another way to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$ should we direct Sandy recovery funds your way too? gosh, the world just adores you.
- Ay
  
  That donate button that’s for her has been there forever.
- Tansy
  
  put a lot of time and effort into this blog and want you to have it and read it for free. if you want to give me some help for the time and effort, THANK YOU. you can either kick me back directly through paypal using the button below, or if you want to take some MUSIC TOO (even better, yay!) go to the store section and kick me back through paying what you want for an album or a song.
- anonymous
  
  You do realize that the donate option is in the programming and will therefore show up at the bottom of every post, right? She doesn’t lack empathy, you just lack vision. If you cannot see what this poem is truly saying then you should not read it and comment on it like you understand. Also, if you truly believe her music has no meaning or message then you are the one missing every point she’s making. Amanda Palmer creates for the fans and doesn’t expect anything from us except that we’ll enjoy what she’s worked hard to give. If you can’t do that or don’t consider yourself a fan then it begs the question as to what you’re even doing here on her blog. It’s one thing to have a fanbase and let them all see what you do, write, and feel. It is another, entirely, to hide behind a screen and fake name and try to tear that person down.
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TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

she deletes
Uncreative

I feel like this is supposed to remind me that at one time or another, I have felt something similar to Dzhokhar. My motives, intentions, and circumstances may be totally different but a feeling is a feeling. Feelings are common human experiences. Those experiences are varied. I feel saddened that someone became so confused, lost, enraged and hateful that they hurt other people.
http://twitter.com/metaphlame metaphlame

He killed a little kid. You don’t get to be coddled and cooed over and told “oh, well, sorry honey, I guess you messed up,” when you kill a little kid. Or anyone, for that matter. Yes, he messed up, but it didn’t result in a mere trip to the hospital for a detoxification, or the end of a relationship. People are dead, and whether in his heart of hearts he wished for it or not it doesn’t matter. They died by his hand. Don’t fawn over him and pretend he should be mooned over as Just Another Confused Teen, when he sent screws and nails ribboning through people’s faces, and eyes and brains and bones. You don’t get to be Just Another Confused Teen when you do that. You get to be the murderer you chose to be.
Joe

Don’t care. Rather buy donuts.
- wilder125
  
  Oooh, donuts… oh wait, there’s a reason why I’m trying to level out my blood pressure so I may not have to take medicine anymore. By losing weight. Crap. Durn you temptation! *waves fist*
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1526059308 Paul L

I think this is an interesting way of condensing and translating all perspectives of the event. It’s not supposed to be canon-worthy, just an expression of events that stunned the world.
ishmaeldaro

Why doesn’t it even rhyme?
http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush

What’s going on in this poem. It’s a little hard to understand. I think you could improve it if you made it rhyme.
poem liker

how come it doesn’t rhyme?
- wilder125
  
  Contrary to belief, not all famous, or amateur poets rhymed in all their poems
  - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
    
    Seuss, the good Doctor
    - wilder125
      
      Like I said, not all. lol
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        ALL! LOL! i get it.
      - wilder125
        
        Good… now explain it. Because I didn’t get whatever you got when you read it. heh
      - TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
        
        I don’t get his message. but at least he rhymed. possibly the opposite of Amanda’s agenda
      - wilder125
        
        Ah.
        
        I once put an amateurish (the only type of poem I can write. It’s in the form 7th graders are taught) onto a going away banner for a friend. Another friend created an Apple out of repitions of the word apple on the banner, then wrote below “this is a poem, yours is crap. Fuck rhyming and go eat lunch”
    - wilder125
      
      Then again, there’s also the act of repetition that can be key in the place of rhyme. All of the lines have “You Don’t Know”
Pippy Dingus

Why does not this rhyme?
bighugeG

this shit aint rhyme, yo wtf. you can’t even write poems and it even repeats wtf is you third grade or something? jeez, woman.
Arcturus Kirwin

The rhythm and meter of this piece is awful. It wouldn’t even suffice as prose, let alone a poem.

I guess if you sliced it up into individual lines, it might work as fortunes in fortune cookies, though. bad fortune cookies.
- poem liker
  
  it doesn’t rhyme, either.
- bighugeG
  
  yeah an it don’t even rhyme, yo. wtf
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

Why didn’t you write a poem for BOSTON?
http://twitter.com/jamesgarside_ James Garside

I don’t think this is a good poem. But I’ll defend until my dying breath your right to write it.
Infidel

I guess we should all expect a poem about empathizing with Charles Manson next?
Geoff Bitch

Why does this not rhyme? Would it really have been so hard to make this rhyme?
Tuck

Hello this poem is not a poem in the fact that it does not have a rhyme scheme. A poem must always rhyme.
poetry guy

you keep deleting comments but it remains obvious that this doesn’t rhyme and should really rhyme if you want it to be a good poem.
- wilder125
  
  She deletes them? I’m seeing all of yours. try again
Pippy Dingus

you don’t made these rhyme
bridget

I don’t like this poem. This has nothing to do with my lack of compassion or my lack of empathy. I fully and totally agree that controversial events and people tend to be muses for terrific artwork.

To be be quite blunt, this reads like a dresden dolls b-side that was kicking around where you threw in a couple lines about the bombings or things that could be relevant to dzhokhar. Nothing in this reads (to me) as honest, compassionate, or truthful. It seems very dispassionate, pretty much exactly -what- you’d expect anyone to write when trying to create a fiction for a person we know next to nothing about.

Oh, I long for the days where hating disabled feminists, mock raping a Katy Perry look-alike on stage, or complaining about how unfair the public response to your decision to -not- pay back up performers were the most tactless or attention whoring things one could accuse you of.
Tony Ferino

If this poem rhymed, it would be as good as any poem I have ever read. Unfortunately it does not rhyme and I find this to be the worst poem I have ever read.
Pippy Dingus

There was a young man named Dzokhar
He ran over his brother with an car
Got shot in the throat
Then hid in a boat
He will surely pay for his terrible crimes, eg. bombing
- professor
  
  nice limerick!
bighugeG

serious this poem would be on my top ten list of poems that aren’t not bad if you would’ve have made this rhyme, yo. missed oppertunities.
poem liker

could only read a few lines before noticing that no two rhymed together? tried pronouncing words in non-standard ways to no avail. i think this is not a poem.
- wilder125
  
  Yet all the lines share the first 3 words
  - bighugeG
    
    lazyness at it’s finest. this just shows how the terrorists have won.
    - wilder125
      
      Or that some poems don’t have to rhyme
      - bighugeG
        
        yeah, bad ones. and that’s what they wanted
      - Chris
        
        Who? the terrorists? You seriously think they bombed people just to provoke (what you call) “bad” poems? Wow, that’s sad…
      - wilder125
        
        Or just the poets that write that way.
        
        Man, reading a little deep into his/her reply are ye?
- rhyme appreciator
  
  “moment” and “went” are a sort of rhyme. also Ms. Palmer ends two non-consecutive lines with “anyway” and four consecutive lines with “new york” and these are a different sort of rhyme, perhaps.
In atlanta.

To the hater: Who cares if it rhymes or not. Who cares if it means anything to you. You are here reading it, hearing what afp has to say. Maybe you don’t understand the poem, maybe you don’t understand yourself. Maybe you’ve got nothing better to do than make these comments pulling all the attention to yourself, needing the attention. Crying out for just one person to pay attention to you. Hello there hater. You don’t need to hate anymore. We all saw you. Love.
- Anne
  
  it is a very bad poem, you have to admit
- Blurry
  
  Or perhaps it is you who is crying out for attention… you’ve flooded her comment section with your own “2 cents”
  haha..
  lawl.
  you really must like her to spend so much time on here xP
http://twitter.com/derrekbgn Derrek Ord

hey it doesn’t rhyme tho so might as well delete it.
Tuck

I bet dzhokhar would love this poem.. If it was a poem.. Where are the rhyming patterns?
ishmaeldaro

I was going to hit the button to send you $5 but then I noticed this poem’s rhyme scheme is a little off. Maybe when you make it rhyme I will send you that fiver.
bkami78

the 8 year old kid wont know a lot if these things too, where’s his poem?
poem liker

did you know that some words rhyme with other words? just a tip to incorporate into future poems
- wilder125
  
  As the great and might Eminem (I laugh as I type that) put it in “I’m not Afraid”
  
  I shouldn’t have to rhyme these words in a rhythm, for you to know it’s a rap.
  
  Then again it’s about the only rap of his I like. It tells a story that doesn’t need the video.
Diane

The poem reads like something Patti Smith would have written in middle school if she were born with FAS
http://twitter.com/Cara_1969 Cara

There should be a sign saying: “Don’t feed the trolls” above the comment box

I don’t understand how someone could read this and see it as a proclamation of love to a killer of many. I don’t understand how anyone could read this and see anything egotistical at all.

I read this and see pain and confusion. I read this and see bewilderment at how someone can have so much hate in their heart that they become blind to everything else. I read this and feel sad.

I can’t say I completely understand it – I can’t say I completely understand my own poems either for that matter.

What I think I can say, with certainty, is that the poem is about love and not hate. It’s about understanding and not about accepting acts of terror as an answer. It’s about life being confusing, painful, difficult and not about giving into hate, destroying everything around you.

How this can be viewed as insensitive, is a complete mystery to me

I hope you don’t stop being your honest and loving self, Amanda. I love and respect you for it. If you put all of your poems in a book and publish it, I’ll buy it. And that is a promise!
- Diane
  
  Her “poem” is pure narcissistic opportunism, that’s “how”.
- Dennis
  
  If there’s one person you can trust to turn up with some ill-considered doggerel hoping to turn tragedy into $5 it’s Amanda Palmer. Her poetic insight (whether into mind of the bomber, herself or YOU) is nil. A terrible opportunist and a bad writer.
  - FiftyThreePercent
    
    “…hoping to turn tragedy into $5…” Classic
  - http://twitter.com/Cara_1969 Cara
    
    Opportunist?!? What are you, a leftover commentor from a crowdsource discussion who feel left out and overlooked?
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  But she’s never used wrote a poem to try and convey the pain and confusion of any other major crimes, from either the side of the victims or perpetrators. Amanda has a history of (maybe unintentionally) stepping all over the people and groups she’s trying to help, and then telling those same groups they don’t know what they’re talking about when they tell her they don’t want her help.
  
  I’d be more impressed about what she’s doing if she only had the donation link to one fund Boston, and did not have her own personal donation link sitting right underneath it.
  - http://twitter.com/Cara_1969 Cara
    
    You must know Amanda personally, since you know all of this…
    
    Are you dissing on an artist for how the webdesign of the site is set up?!? That donation link you are referring to has little to do with uthis particular post and more to do with the fact that this is the site of an artist. I also doubt Amanda herself had much to do with how the site is built up.
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      I’ve followed her career for a while. She’s done some pretty problematic stuff, not all of which can be easily explained away by artistic vision because of how she handled said criticism.
      
      Considering Amanda owns the website and hired the webdesigner, I’d trust her to know enough to disable the code for her own donation button, or to at least emphasize the text of her entries or have a much more eyegrabbing button for the actual charity so that it takes more precedence in her website design. She could have also included the link for the charity in the same space on the top of the page that she reserved as a warning for troll accounts, for example.
      
      This isn’t an official press release on the rest of her website, this is her personal blog. She writes the content and in effect controls how she is presented in her own blog. Any artist is responsible for content that appears in a website that they own and present themselves with.
delusions of grandview

Dude, poems are SUPPOSED to rhyme
poem liker

this is more like a repair manual or maybe textbook than a poem, because of the lack of rhymes.
Alex

Lol where’s the rhyming scheme lol u suk
Carl poemliker

It doesn’t rhyme? I don’t believe this is a “poem” by def.
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

the soft rolls bit is so pretentious Lexington of you.
pome

Would’ve been a lot more compelling in iambic pentameter. You should think about maybe taking an English or lit class or maybe going to a writing group or something to work on your structure.
RIP Jam Master Jay

It’s Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that’s right on time
It’s Tricky…it’s Tricky (Tricky) Tricky (Tricky)
It’s Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that’s right on time
It’s Tricky…Tr-tr-tr-tricky (Tricky) Trrrrrrrrrrricky
- http://www.facebook.com/LucyM121 Lucy Merriman
  
  Haha ^__^
- Tansy
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
Estella

All you haters are hiding behind something worse than terrorism. Amanda is a genius, actually better than Bob Dylan, Sylvia Plath and Cynid Lauper. This poem put’s the events in Boston in a new poetic perspective unheard of in the mainstream media. I tink thats worth something even if your too cool to see it.
- wilder125
  
  You’re right. Our monitors are evil. You never know what they’re thinking. Damn shifty monitors
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  She is not better than Bob Dylan, or Sylvia Plath, or Cyndi Lauper (although I wonder why you include Lauper, as her lyrics were very much manufactured pop and were never focused on poetry as a form).
  
  She is passable. And a pass with an actual editor would make it more passable. And trying to empathize with a man that recently bombed a public venue, when she’s never written poetry to empathize with any victims or suspects from other major crimes, is in poor taste.
  - wilder125
    
    All poems,songs/sonnets, and books are manufactured by the ones that write them. I know handwriting, or typing is a little old fashioned compared to modern manufacturing, but come on.
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      Most Top 40 hits are written by separate freelance songwriters, and carefully watched and pushed by producers to make sure they appeal to as many listeners as possible. It’s just how the record industry works. Cyndi Lauper is a singer/songwriter first, and markets herself as such.
      
      In any case, grouping Cyndi Lauper in with Bob Dylan, who has published books of poetry between his records and been repeatedly nominated for a Nobel Prize in literature, or grouping her with Sylvia Plath, who has one of the largest legacies in American poetry and had nothing to do with the music industry, just doesn’t make sense.
TomTom Garmin

Superb stuff!
Hits hard.
I’m in tears.
Thank you for sharing this.
Everyone should see it.
http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush

I’ve reread this “poem” a few times, even aloud, but I’m still mystified by the lack of rhyming. Why won’t you address this?
- David Fairbanks
  
  It’s 2013 and people think poems have to rhyme? Really?
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Clinkinbeard/100001527746459 Chris Clinkinbeard
    
    I’m more concerned with the content than the rhyming. Too “deep” for me I guess.
    - David Fairbanks
      
      Or it’s not very well articulated. Content is a great thing to talk about. Line breaks and word choices and how things look on the page are too. Rhyme is also a great thing to discuss, but being mystified by the lack of a rhyme to the poem? Yuck.
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  Free verse poetry does not require rhyming. Walt Whitman, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, and Emily Dickinson wrote free verse poetry that does not rhyme. They are all standard poets that are covered in highschool English class.
  - http://www.facebook.com/LucyM121 Lucy Merriman
    
    Hey, it’s okay. Let it go. There’s this troll account on twitter that pulls pranks to mess with people, and today they decided to prank AFP by getting a lot of people to ask her why her poem doesn’t rhyme. It’s a joke. People were getting too upset about the poem and the tragedy, so they decided to make a joke out of it. (Sorry to everyone else for explaining the joke, but some people seemed to be getting really upset).
    
    P.S. I love Andrea Gibson <3
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      Ugh, trolls. There’s just so much else that Palmer does that is seriously wrong and problematic, and which I would love to see brought out repeatedly instead of “But why doesn’t it rhyme”, and which could actually turn her fanbase off of her.
      
      Also, yesss Andrea Gibson is fantastic, and I wish she’d get involved in an event somewhere near the Boston area again so I could see her live.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001164662661 Susan Daniels
  
  Are you serious? Poetry does not have to rhyme.
Poem Critic

Can’t help but notice this doesn’t rhyme. Inexplicable artistic choice, IMHO. Really would have reached the public more with rhyming.
rikkitikkitavo

really lazy writing here. everything starts with “you don’t know” which is NOT rhyming if its the same phrase. Don’t get the buzz with this piece. at all.
pome

I wrote a poem about a boy.
A tragedy I didn’t employ
A rhyming scheme when I did write
This travesty to words last night.
Poem Critic

Date says April 21. Was wondering if you meant April 1, because you look the “fool” when you don’t rhyme poetry.
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  Modern freeform, spoken-word poetry does not mandate rhyming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgALhKr4ZZo
  - Carl poemliker
    
    That just sounds made up
    - wilder125
      
      Funny, I thought all poems were made up
    - wilder125
      
      Or are they free range? Who catches free range poems. Do people have to be specially trained to wrangle them?
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      Free Verse Poetry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
      
      Walt Whitman’s work is largely free verse, and does not rhyme. Just read his poem 1861: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/1861/ or A Leaf For Hand In Hand: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-leaf-for-hand-in-hand/
      
      TS Eliot and Ezra Pound created modern free verse. Emily Dickinson used free verse for her smaller poems. Oscar Wilde used free verse, too. Wallace Stevens is a master of the free verse form.
  - http://twitter.com/BaronVonSnake Pokemon Otis
    
    lol, obviously you don’t know what a poem is.
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      And you’ve obviously never heard of Slam Poetry, haiku poetry, or free form poetry.
      
      T.S Eliot’s poem “The Waste Land”, Ginsberg’s “Howl”, and Walt Whitman’s “Song of Myself” are all non-rhyming poems.
Shakespizzy

‘You don’t know how to’ rhyme one word with another lol weres the rhymes dawg ur killing us out here
- Liz
  
  Why, just why are you so obsessed with the rhyming?
  
  Ever heard about the fact that modern poetry is free in form? and that it’s the artist’s choice whether to rhyme or use a verse pattern or not?
  - Diane
    
    “Durrrrrrrr” – Liz
ishmaeldaro

Why compound the tragedy of the Boston bombings by not making the poem rhyme? Do you want to hurt the victims more?
A Poet

BOMBER BUMMER

Bomber
Bummer
Bomber
Bummer
A little boy who won’t reach summer
What a bummer
Piled up dead, so hard to number
What a bummer
Is my leg blown off or just a little numb-er?
What a bummer
A bomb at a marathon trying to kill the runners
What a bummer
Are you from around here or are you a newcomer?
Could you even be a bomber?
A bomber bummer
Bummer
Bomber

Bummer
Bomber
Bummer
Bomber

(If you like this, please give me $5!)
- Poetry publisher
  
  I would like to offer you a lucrative publishing deal.
  - Tansy
    
    http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/
- Kirsten Petersen
  
  Yikes. *This* poem was terrible and offensive.
http://twitter.com/BaronVonSnake Pokemon Otis

I tried to read this, but I kept getting to the end of a line and expected it to rhyme, but it didn’t. It really tripped me up. I thought it was a poem??? Sorry, couldn’t get to the end.
pome

one two three i’m in a boat
a wooden thing that is afloat
i have my phone my name’s dzhokhar
maybe i should be in a car

or maybe i should fly away
leave in a plane or maybe stay
but if i stay then i might die
after i made those people cry

i hope if someone writes a poem
or pens me in some lyric tome
that they will have the sense to rhyme
because that’s how poems work and i’m

about to drift out to the sea
the current’s changing under me
and so for now i’ll take my leave
but poems must rhyme, this i believe.
- Carl poemliker
  
  Now THIS is a real poem worth sharing
- http://www.lolpervs.com/ Daisee Dukes
  
  More like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbZnkPXubA
Poe-Guy99

Seems to me like you are the real “Dzhokhar” (Joker) for writing a poem that don’t even rhyme!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1575722360 Joey Chang

YOU ARE A TALENTLESS MORON YOU CAN ONLY GARNER ATTN BUY ACTING CONTROVERSIAL…YOU RENDER DESCARTES COMPLETELY IRRELEVENT
- wilder125
  
  So… where can i Buy this “acting controversial”. Is it on Amazon?
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1575722360 Joey Chang
    
    what r u talkin about Im referrrin to the psuedo intellectual who wrote this nonsense
    - wilder125
      
      By, isn’t Buy. in other words. you misspelled one word, and changed the whole thing.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Clinkinbeard/100001527746459 Chris Clinkinbeard

Martin Richard was going to write a “poem” too. Unfortunately, his life was snuffed out at age 8. You are a sick individual Ms. Palmer.
http://www.facebook.com/JustinCambria Justin Cambria

I read and enjoyed this BEFORE slate!
eadtuff

Why doesn’t the poem rhyme? This is confusing..i thought poetry rhmyed…is this really a poem
- wilder125
  
  Some on here think that it doesn’t. Since whether a poem is good or bad is based on opinion, I’d say it’s a toss-up, or a tie. or even a free-range romp
  - ChelsieSutherland
    
    Free-form spoken-word poetry does not have rules for the form that require rhyming, as it is more about the flow. Her repetition in the first part of each line acts as a hook, instead of rhyming.
    
    Here’s another (much more accomplished) freeform poet that doesn’t rhyme, but instead creates beautiful visual imagery with her writing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgALhKr4ZZo
    - wilder125
      
      Sadly, I can’t. there are limits to being bored at work.
      - ChelsieSutherland
        
        If you can, bookmark it for later. Her website is all videos of her performances and an online store for her books, but she posts small poems and text on her tumblr blog: http://andrewgibby.tumblr.com/
      - wilder125
        
        lol tumblr is blocked by the firewall. I’ll try to pull the video up long enough to bookmark without playing it.
http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit

From Twitter:
Hermit Thrush ‏@Hermit_Thrush
TWITTER EXPERIMENT: completely derail this publicity stunt by flooding the poem with comments about the rhyme scheme http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130421/

Hermit Thrush ‏@Hermit_Thrush
don’t want to comment? do your part by “voting up” the rhyme-related comments. click the “^” below them

Am I the only one who finds this really, really odd?
- Diane
  
  Yes? Are you stupid or something?
  - http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
    
    Apparently, because I think rallying people to send traffic to a site because you suspect it only exists to get traffic is about as silly as it gets!
    - Diane
      
      It’s called griefing. Don’t tell me you take this woman seriously?
rhyme appreciator

“water” and “order” could rhyme, if you say them right
Túlio

People read a beautiful poem full of “you don’t know”, and after that some of them make comments full of convictions and definiteness. Someday we’ll learn.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  I don’t know why it doesn’t rhyme.
- Sleepy
  
  you dont know that
NOTHINGHOSTHOST

“THE WORLD IS FULL OF HIDDEN DANGERS.

REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.”
- wilder125
  
  Which means we’re all dangerous to each other, so we should all hide in a basement, never the twain shall meet. Resulting in the human race passing away because no new children will ever be born. Gotcha. I vote on the wolves being the next intelligent species to step up.
Emily

this isn’t a poem, there’s no soundplay or insight or powerful imagery. you are talentless, narcissistic and irrelevant.
- wilder125
  
  we also don’t have people in berets snapping their fingers in snapping approval. Damn internet
L

i’m feeling a little confused — it seems like this “poem” doesn’t rhyme? do you speak a dialect that makes it rhyme, because if so i think you should put a note at the top or something
ChelsieSutherland

I’d be more impressed by Amanda Palmer’s goodwill if she could find the heart in her to remove the personal donation paypal link from this entry, and keep it about donating solely to OneBoston.
- L
  
  i’d be more impressed if the poem rhymed! as it is, it’s just … well, not much of a poem at all! because it doesn’t rhyme, i mean
  - ChelsieSutherland
    
    Freeform, spoken-word poetry does not have rhyming as a requirement, because the focus is on flow, beat, and creating visual or resounding imagery with the content of the text.
    
    Andrea Gibson is probably one of the best spoken word poets I’ve ever heard, and while she does not rhyme, the flow of her work keeps it cohesively lyrical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgALhKr4ZZo
http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk

hello I read this poem from the internet, but, something bothers me, specifically the poem does not rhyme. Is that really appropriate?
http://twitter.com/Eh_Palm A Cloud of Dogs

I love the rhyming scheme you used.
bkyguy

so freaking stupid – not art, garbage
Amy Macabre

I think the true sadness of this poem is how many people fail to grasp the nature of poetry. It isn’t about being literal, it isn’t about condoning or condemning. It’s expressing something via an artform, and yes it IS about making assumptions about someone/something else’s emotions or thoughts. It’s poetry. That’s what it is. And it can be a tool to help us heal, or a tool to help us understand. And even if you do not agree with the sentiment Amanda has made, it does not negate the value of the poetry itself.
mr.e

i guess these days every thing written can be considered a poem for some people…
the internet gives too many untalented people a wide stage.
thoughtful

I don’t understand. I’m trying to understand but I don’t. I have no idea if I like the poem, or what I feel about it, but…

Is ‘you’ meant to be everybody? The reader? Is it about empathy? Is it about how everyone feels, at some point? I’d really value an explanation.

However, this is poetry. It’s designed to make people think. It’s not designed for everyone to just instantly ‘like’. The very fact that it’s sparked such vehement discussion speaks volumes.
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  sorry, no. ms. palmer is spitting on actual poets by trying to pass this off as poetry. the fact is, it does not even rhyme.
  - englishlitgraduate
    
    Are you actually serious? This has got to be a joke. Poetry does not need to rhyme.
bkyguy

you don’t know how to write a decent poem
you don’t know how to rhyme
you don’t know how stupid you sound making a victim out of a monster
you don’t know how dumb you are
you don’t know how awful your writing is
you don’t know what you are doing
you don’t know what real suffering is yet you pretend to
you don’t know what the real world holds

you ARE a moron though, and a hack, and just another idiot who thinks that being artistic just means being contrary, but you don’t realize that art is beauty and your creation is ugly
- wilder125
  
  Tell me did you know.
  That alcohol would
  Spawn little things like
  This prose.
  
  Tell me did you know.
  My decongestants are
  Making me see
  Shiny rainbows.
  
  Tell me did you know
  That caffeine is
  The only thing keeping
  Me sane away from home.
  
  Tell me did you know
  I don’t know what
  My point is
  
  Or where this does flow.
  
  Tell me did you know
  I should go
  
  And sit on my
  
  Shiny porcelain throne
  - bkyguy
    
    now THAT is a poem
    
    but the trite garbage that this amanda hack wrote is nothing more than trite garbage
    - wilder125
      
      Maybe… but it’s in 7th grade taught form which is all I know, and any college poetry class will throw it out.
    - wilder125
      
      Heck, I know for a fact poetry contests don’t let it in unless it’s a local version that never goes national
- wilder125
  
  Considering this post. I think I’ll take back my appreciation of your compliment on my 7th grade poetry style.
- wilder125
  
  And how mine suddenly appeared below my name, I don’t know. What the…
- Tansy
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
- Rage
  
  You….
  You don’t know that poems don’t need to rhyme.
  
  Fin.
  - bkyguy
    
    no I know that, but I used to have this discussion with my english teacher in high school
    
    its a cop out, its a total cop out and nothing will ever convince me it is not – just throwing words down on paper does not make something art
    
    if there is no rhyme and no rhythm to it, its just lazy throw up, no real effort into it – why label that as art? its just jotting down a bunch of BS and throwing the tag “poem” on it because you think you are deep when you are just a lazy POS who thinks people should give you money
    
    how do you like my poem? what I just wrote in this post was a poem!!!!! if you don’t believe me it is just because you are too ignorant to understand my art – see how stupid it sounds?
Emily Dickinson

I wish I was a bar of soap
Hanging on a string
And every time you took a bath
I’d see your ding-a-ling
http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Teeboom/1095826502 Daniel Teeboom

If you would show an iota of understanding for your conservative country men and women, this outpouring of understanding for a terrorist would not have been in such bad taste.

But you don’t. You probably hate them which a vengeance. So this is just a pose. If you cannot show understanding and open minded towards the people most similar to you that you share your society with but whose opinions differ from yours, then this outpouring of understanding for somebody completely alien to your values is meaningless. It’s public moral masturbation. It’s telling the world how good you are.

But we can see right trough that.
bostonian

You should donate 5$ to everyone who read this garbage. Worst poem ever!!!!!!
- bostonian
  
  I also said this and she deleted my comment. Dear Amanda, Good luck ever performing here in MA. Even the hippies in Northhampton will take offense to this.
  - WeAreTheMedia
    
    Actually, we were having a great, fairminded discussion with Amanda about the ethics of empathy before you trolls got here. You’ll get bored eventually, and we’ll get back to making art.
    Love,
    One of Amanda’s hippies.
    - amanda palmer’s pussy
      
      you dingus…I hope you’re 13 or else there’s no excuse
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

http://bit.ly/YFU6kS
- TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist
  
  publicity!
- wilder125
  
  Sorry.. but when it hits all the news stations I’ll finally think it’s major publicity. At the most right now it’s a blurb. And gawker isn’t even something a lot of people like to read except in passing before going somewhere more interesting. But that could just be my opinion and I’m the only one who passes by it.
- http://capnswing.tumblr.com/ Christopher Swing
  
  “And also the poem adds Palmer, elbowing her way in to the
  conversation, insisting on her right to speak for a teenager she never
  met and to whose thoughts and feelings she has no access, demanding that
  we recognize her bravery for doing so, and then later telling us all
  that it’s our fault we misunderstood”
  
  “It’s not just about a basic inability to craft a compelling image, it’s also about Palmer’s own egotism. “A Poem for Dzhokhar” is not, really,
  “for” Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old college kid who, along with
  his older brother, allegedly detonated a bomb at the Boston Marathon
  last week. It’s for Palmer, a deluded and opportunistic narcissist who sells rhetorical snake oil
  to people too full of unearned self-regard to join an actual cult. It’s
  another way she can make sure people are looking at her, and we
  shouldn’t even write about it—if we write about it, she wins—except that in this case she has actually created something remarkable: a world-historically horrific poem. ”
  
  DAMN, I have to give it to Gawker this time.
Paul Daniel the magician

Mary Mary quite contrary
Shaved her pussy cause it was so damn hairy.
- wilder125
  
  So That’s what the garden was they were talking about in the poem
ian twolan

Amanda – you are dumber than dogshit !
- wilder125
  
  Was that supposed to be insightful or insulting? Just curious. I’m seeing better insults to her in older comments
LaCreesha Shewundaful

This poem does not rhyme
- wilder125
  
  Really. didn’t guess. hah
William McGonagall

The Tay Bridge Disaster

Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

‘Twas about seven o’clock at night,
And the wind it blew with all its might,
And the rain came pouring down,
And the dark clods seem’d to frown,
And the Demon of the air seem’d to say-
“I’ll blow down the Bridge of Tay.”

When the train left Edinburgh
The passengers’ hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
Which made their hearts for to quail,
And many of the passengers with fear did say-
“I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay.”

But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sught,
And the passengers’ hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov’d most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year.

So the train mov’d slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o’er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill’d all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav’d to tell the tale
How the disaster happen’d on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of thSilv’ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.
http://twitter.com/bsdf asdf

neil.
Granola Gaye

There one was a girl from Nantucket
Writing horrible prose by the bucket
She thought she was cool
Too cool for school
Fuck you Amanda Palmer
- wilder125
  
  You forgot all of it needs to rhyme. According to some quite sublime.
- Granola Gaye
  
  http://soundcloud.com/rhodium-jones/she-rockin
- wilder125
  
  “My opinion will not be a face palmer” would probably work. But then I don’t agree with yours. so how would I know
A Poet

BOMBER BUMMER

Bomber
Bummer
Bomber
Bummer
A little boy who won’t reach summer
What a bummer
Piled up dead, so hard to number
What a bummer
Is my leg blown off or just a little numb-er?
What a bummer
A bomb at a marathon trying to kill the runners
What a bummer
Are you from around here or are you a newcomer?
Could you even be a bomber?
A bomber bummer
Bummer
Bomber

Bummer
Bomber
Bummer
Bomber

(If you like this, please give me $5!)
- JAne
  
  wow. you’re really enjoying this self-righteousness with which you can act like a troll and no onw would say anything to you? go do something useful.
- JAne
  
  weirdo….
- http://twitter.com/one2ohmygod COACH HUGHES
  
  i lolled.
Barry Stephenson

Hi Amanda,

This is sooo beautiful.

Could you also write one for Hitler or Stalin? I don’t think there is enough empathy for these people.
Maybe you could do one for the Sandy Hook killer. And what about all the child molesters? Maybe you could do an anthology for all of the poor people who have devastated other’s lives. Also, I hope the people who have been maimed or lost family in Boston get to see this – it will be so cathartic for them to read this. I’m so glad that you’ve written this, and that you’re brave enough to do something that other, less generous people would find completely disgusting and see as the sign of an insensitive, self-absorbed idiot. I definitely don’t agree with them.

Love from Barry.
- jobby-eater
  
  Only Amanda Palmer with her devastating imaginative and poetic insight would have a hope of explaining the enigmas that were Hitler and Stalin. I’d give her five bucks for sure!
- lentower
  
  Godwin’s Law again.
  - Barry Stephenson
    
    Thank you lentower. Totally appreciate you misusing Godwin’s Law in relation to my post. Gold star for you.
    - lentower
      
      We obviously disagree about that.
Guest

perhaps if this wasn’t about you than you should have a donation link for the Boston victims instead of managing to toss yours in there as well. Oppurtunistic spittle, half-assed attempt.
- bostonian
  
  Don’t delete this comment. It is a VERY valid point.
- slepy
  
  whats this ladies deal? did you love the poem or hate it? ps no matter what the answer, no one cares.
- broken
  
  There is a donation link for the victims: “Click HERE to donate & find additional about The One Fund Boston…” Additionally, the donation link for Amanda’s work is at the bottom of each of her blog posts. As a primarily “pay what you like” artist, that is how she makes a living.
- wiccabasket
  
  There is a donation link, right up there ^^
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Fann/100000368571724 Alan Fann

Did you really mean to type through through?
one of the three percent

i believe it was a set up by the alphabet group as the sheep follow their undocumented dictator , for where does a chechnian profit from attacking what they are enjoying the u.s provides support and weapons to their people to offset russia for years, so why , no videos , no witnesses , no guns seen , so where is clear proof? scapegoats to provide cause so sheep follow to slaughter begging please please pediboma take our rights away to make us safe , make a diversion so we dont see the bitter truth or protection of saudis it all stinks and people are believing fbi and goverment till its them one day.
http://twitter.com/loriannstephens Lori Ann Stephens

April is National Poetry Month. Palmer wrote a poem. She was clearly trying to do what people who write poetry do: make some sense of the world. The vitriolic response is frightening. The ad hominem attacks on her career choices are almost as depressing. Artists must self-promote to make a living. I don’t see this kind of hatred aimed at businesses who shell out millions to promote themselves via advertising during the Superbowl. People: spend less time spreading your hatred and more time spreading kindness. Life is too brief for blame and hatred. Over a poem? Go help someone carry groceries. Go open a door for someone whose hands are full. Ask your elderly neighbor how she’s doing, and actually listen to her response. Be a positive force.
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  To be fair, those businesses are spending millions to advertise during the superbowl, not advertise after one of the biggest and longest-lasting international city traditions in a major US city was bombed and spectators killed. There is a time and place to self-promote, there is a time and place to have a personal donation button on the footer of your blog.
  
  The personal donation button is bigger and more eyecatching than the link (embedded in a tiny snippet of text in a large paragraph) to the actual donation site she says she’s trying to get traffic for. That says a lot to people.
  
  Amanda Palmer has a history of trying to use her music and projects to try to help various groups and people, and in doing so has often stepped all over or silenced the same groups she has tried to help. And, when those groups tell her where she has made a mistake in her attempts to be an ally, she has silenced them or shut them out of the conversation.
  - http://www.facebook.com/LucyM121 Lucy Merriman
    
    What other groups has she hurt, though? I’ve never heard anyone get upset about her charity work before, only about the musician kerfuffle.
    - ChelsieSutherland
      
      Her Evelyn Evelyn record created fictional conjoined twin girls whose story included making a living in a circus freakshow. Actual disabled people weren’t at all amused that Amanda and her co-performer were using the idea of fake conjoined twins that they dressed up as to give perfomances with the taglines of “8th Wonder of the Natural World” and “A Campaign of Shock and Awe”. All of it perpetuated every “disabled people need the help of non-disabled people that will hold their hand into the spotlight and need to market their disability to draw in listeners and build a career on” stereotype in media. When she was called out on it, she was really unapologetic and kept insisting that conjoined twins are not considered disabled so it wasn’t really insulting.
      
      http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/02/09/evelyn-evelyn-ableism-ableism/
      http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/02/17/amanda-palmer-wants-to-shock-you-just-dont-e-mail-her-about-it-kay/
      http://hoydenabouttown.com/20100302.7291/not-your-punchline-amanda-palmer/
      http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/02/22/a-few-words-on-some-previous-words/
      
      She’s said some pretty transphobic (and potentially anti-transwoman) stuff: http://kaylefay.blogspot.ca/2011/07/do-you-know-what-sucks-sweat-glands.html
      
      She had a skit where she simulated raping Katie Perry on-stage (by the end of the video, the Katy Perry impersonator is tied up and gagged): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QOVcgOwquDA#t=130s and the news article: http://morethansides.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/on-rape-culture-amanda-palmer-and.html
      
      She’s joked about “ironically” donating money to the KKK: http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/389485.html
      
      When one of her older partners (a recovering drug addict) had a relapse, she faked a suicide attempt to let him know how she felt and to try to convince him to never relapse again, and recorded his reaction to it, then used it in an album a few years later. Her emotionally vulnerable significant other committed suicide a few years after her fake suicide. She then told the story, jokingly, to the audience at a concert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=h57XWrFNGs8#t=306shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57XWrFNGs8&feature=youtu.be
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  How about the fact that she has a tiny space to donate to the boston one then right below that is a huge, long explanation of why we should donate to Amanda Palmer, I guess we see which is the more worthy charity in her eyes
Frank Connelly

Yesterday at church, in Cambridge, we cried for how we had failed these young men and how we, as a community, have not done enough. We are all capable of harming others. To love those who may wish us harm or may be our so called “enemies” is what Jesus would do.
http://twitter.com/serpent_sky rachael pixie

I think this is beautiful, Amanda. And I thank you for being compassionate toward everyone in this piece. After everything happened Friday, I was disgusted with everything and everyone. I turned off my TV and went to bed around 9:00 because I just didn’t want to actively think about the world anymore, or cheering people, or police filling the streets, or what drove someone to the initial act. This, though, is the first thing I have read that makes any sense. So thank you.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  Something must be wrong with you.
S

I really enjoyed the poem. Thanks for creating and writing it, Amanda.
taskforce

pretentious. a 3/10 rating would be a shining review.
Joan Taylor

It’s a really bad poem, as monumentally opportunistic as it is banal. Please tell me that you lie in bed and night cringing at your empty, callous showmanship. (Sadly, Neil is now off my list. Guilt by association, I know…but art can be like that.)
- ChelsieSutherland
  
  You just described more than half her recent projects over the last 8 years. kudos.
karmachrome

Maybe just projecting but this sums up exactly what we were thinking when they captured him and, while relieved, couldn’t help but feel sorry for him. Just as you’ve expressed, it’s hard not to think of one’s own guilt and insecurity at that age. The anguish of that “what have I done” moment and the inability to control your own impulses.
jenphalian

Thank you for this poem. It was moving and interesting.
Ilpalazzo

Wow, that made absolutely no sense. High, much?
Rather not

This made me sob real, painful tears. Beautifully written and much of this applies to everyone. We are human beings and must share the same space. We sometimes have to try and understand things, even if they seem completely, impossibly uncomfortable.
http://twitter.com/_TeDiouS_ Tom Steiger

On first reading I interpreted the “you” as me, like she was talking directly to me. Upon further reflection I interpreted the “you” as us, or at least the collection of humanity directly affected by the Marathon bombing. She’s talking to a runner in the race, a family huddled in their basement waiting for it to just be over, the spectators watching the finishers in awe, and pretty much anyone who’s ever been in an uncomfortable situation due to uncertainty about almost anything. And yes, included in that mass of humanity is Dzhokhar – whatever else you want to say about him, I think it’s fair to say that he’s facing uncertainty – and Amanda Palmer, trying to make her way to New York during a public transit blackout. But, to my mind, neither of them is the main focus of the piece. For me the poem is about being a small person in a big world full of huge incomprehensible events, and what that feels like.
Amanda Palmer

you don’t know how it felt to be in the womb

I liken it to a balloon

you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers

the smell of your own anus still lingers
sleepy

poetic meaning aside, this poem is objectively awful
- Tansy
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
skeptic888

Props to Amanda for getting so many people to comment. Personally I feel the poem is dishonest. It projects and assumes far to much about Dzhokhar’s feelings and thoughts, doesn’t give Amanda’s far more interesting reactions to the events, and in her choice of words and phrases, is either unintentionally ironic or just plain insensitive to the point of being astonishing, in lines like, “you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again”, “you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway”, and “you don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot anyway.” Given what happened at the Marathon, I can’t believe Ms. Palmer is using these lines.
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  Furthermore it is dishonest to present a work as ‘poetry’ and then not include any rhymes, which we have come to expect from poetry. Some may say this is ‘edgy’ or ‘thought provoking’ but I think it is just an effort to screw with our heads.
- http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
  
  “You don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.”
  How much we take for granted. How much it could have happened to any one of us. How much we forget to pay attention to how fragile we are.
  I don’t think it’s unintentionally ironic or astonishingly insensitive, just one of many confusing, conflicting emotions we’ve all had to deal with over the past week, that clearly for many are too fresh and raw to read about yet.
PalmerFan95

This poem is pretty awful. Amanda Palmer, no offense, is a pretentious garbage-woman regurgitating her “artistic” ideas onto the internet so her fans can circlejerk about how deep they are. Nice donate button, you bottom-feeding attention whore. Also, it doesn’t even rhyme. 0/10 poem
Horribly executed, please stop

Lol, really?
Horribly executed, please stop

Support my dick, more likely.
ProfSecretKisses

My main problem with this poem is that it doesn’t rhyme. 1 out of 5 stars, would not recommend.
PC Plod

It’s a despicable crime
When a poem don’t rhyme
You’re just wasting my time
With your wanting of rhyme
Up the wall I do climb
When I can’t hear a rhyme
In Pacific Standard Time
It’s a quarter past rhyme
If you want a dime
You better give me a rhyme

You’re less of a poet
and more an embalmer

using corpses for profit,
Ms Palmer.
- http://twitter.com/mightyrosebud Heather Waters
  
  Big trash talk for someone who posts anonymously. Go troll somewhere else.
Jesus

MY ALCOHOOOOOOLIC FRENZZZZZZZ
sleepy

you dont know how to write a poem.

you dont know how to write a poem.

you dont know how to write a poem.

you dont know how to stop sucking, or write a poem.

you dont know how to keep deleting my comments.

you dont know how to write a poem.
- Iheartpoetry
  
  dear ‘fake’ sleepy. we don’t need your comments to be deleted to see you are an angry, nasty person who is using this platform to just express some hate towards Ms Palmer. You are showing us all your horrible bits quite well.
noevilstar

You don’t know how to troll convincingly. “It doesn’t rhyme” doesn’t rhyme with “everyone can tell that you are just trolling with the ‘it doesn’t rhyme’ comments, and that doesn’t add anything to the conversation.”
gregoryabutler

This is a very bad poem, written by a clueless dilettante who has no idea of what it’s like to be in this kid’s shoes.
whowon

A poem for the 4 he killed and the over 100 who were maimed? Hypocrisy is your name.
storibund

I’ve just learned vomit is bad for keyboards.
emily

I loved reading this. Thank you. It hit home, and really makes us all feel human, which is the goal of any poetry, in my estimation. Thank you.
BeholdThePold

Does it not rhyme because it’s hard to rhyme just about anything with Tsarnaev?
MichaelCNH

You, miss, are one vacuous twat. The sooner your fifteen minutes of fame are up, the better for everyone who comes into contact with your toxic, self-absorbed mentality.
- wilder125
  
  Not a very insightful response is it “adjust moncle” Pip Pip
redmuses

This is terrible. Stop yourself. I usually love you, but this is super inane and self serving.
Trevor

This isn’t a poem.

It’s a collection of one off sentences.
leslie

Only the last four lines rhyme??? I thought this was a poem?????
Sonicviolence

Log off, Palmer. You are an embarrassment to musicians and artists everywhere. Go back to what you’re good at, pan handling. I wish YOU were in the hospital dying. Please don’t come back to Oklahoma, ever?
- Amanda Palmer
  
  So you’re not going to give me $5 then?
  - Amanda Not her smackmyhead
    
    nice…except I do believe all of Amanda’s have been in red.
- Blurry
  
  Wow you’re no better than the boston bomber, WILLING SOMEONE TO DIE.
  The only difference is that the bomber actually acted on it.
Penmar

He mourned his dead brother by running over him as he was making his escape…what a bunch of drivel
http://www.facebook.com/bridgetamc Bridget McGraw-Bordeaux

the
other thing that annoys me and then i’ll stop, i really want to ask all
you people who are responding so sympathetically to Dzhokhar, specifically about the idea that
we should sympathize or humanize or romanticize him because at 19
he was too young or naive or impressionable or dumb to know what he was doing, if you would be willing to extend the same sympathy/empathy/compassion to the two kids who were convicted
in the steubenville rape case (who were, iirc, younger).

i mean, sure they might have had some inkling that what they were doing was *wrong* but they certainly didn’t realize that in that state digital penetration constituted as *rape* (i mean, shit i didn’t know it did, though i am glad that their rape laws are so comprehensive). i mean if we are going to extend empathy and compassion to this “kid” (and i’m sorry but at 19 you are NOT a kid) where do we stop?
http://twitter.com/IAmYourVampire Gracie

A child in pain. Something everybody has been at some point. We shouldn’t forget that.
- Lucy
  
  Nobody forgets that. It’s just that most people’s first thought isn’t to scribble down some godawful poem in the hope of scraping five bucks from visitors to their website.
  - http://twitter.com/IAmYourVampire Gracie
    
    Amanda’s not ‘most people’ and art has proved a good way for her to heal and connect. Stop with the hate, friend.
Basil Baker

I’m a writer too (google my name if you dare); so I can say with complete authority that your ‘poem’ contains nothing but rambling thoughts without artistic merit.
- Pussywillows
  
  Not that there isn’t value to what you do but don’t you write children’s books? How does that make you an authority on poetry?
http://www.facebook.com/GEvans34 Gwen Evans

Amanda, truthfully, I do not like what you call poetry. However, I do enjoy poetry. The way I read it is a bunch of disconnected, abstract thoughts clumped together that you tried to make fit all of humanity and tie it in with this horrible crime…thus getting yourself a little of the lime-light. Very sad young lady. Very sad.
Blurry

Amanda, you go ahead and write what you want. Just because you’re famous and writing your PERSONAL feelings on your PERSONAL blog does not mean you have to please everyone. If someone’s going to be ass hurt about this poem, they need to suck it up and realize that there is no censorship on the internet. If something offends you, don’t look at it. You’re only giving her more attention by claiming she’s gaining profit or publicity from this poem. Which is a bit ass-backwards.

And for everyone who says this isn’t a poem… well it’s poetry to her… ergo it’s a poem.
Just like if someone was to draw a picture, whether it’s good in your opinion or not, it’s still art to the person who created it, and it still means something to that person.

People also criticized charles bukowski’s poems claiming they weren’t poetry because they didn’t rhyme, either.

To all the people who are complaining of Amanda’s rising fame, lol u mad?
U mad cause you can’t rhyme either and she executes and conveys her emotions and feelings better than you can?
haha.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  You seem to be a poetry expert. Can you explain why this poem doesn’t rhyme? Amanda Palmer refuses to explain this herself.
  - Pussywillows
    
    Honest question – Do you really think all poetry rhymes?
nahlah

Does Amanda Palmer even know that Chechnya exists? Just wondering.

What’s up with the reference to the two percent? Amanda Palmer is definitely in the top 1 percent???
- Johnny
  
  Two percent milk you fucking moron.
  - wilder125
    
    Not everyone pays attention to the daily ramble about 2 percenters
    
    *wanders off to fatten up 2 percent milk with chocolate syrup* It’s how I roll
- http://twitter.com/IAmYourVampire Gracie
  
  You’re so affected by this poem. It must really speak to you.
nahlah

Two percent? I don’t get it.
sammymyman

you should be ashamed of yourself. nuff said.
chkplz

Thanks Amanda I thought the poem was great. Funny that the ones who are grandstanding so much about it’s appropriateness are the ones that are drawing everyone’s attention to it.

To those grandstanders who hide behind anger and hate, you have my pity but not my respect
http://www.facebook.com/jenn.laguardia.7 Jenn LaGuardia

I don’t remember what it felt like to be in the womb, but maybe it was as warm as New York in the middle of July. I know the way to New York but not to Boston or even Maryland. I don’t have an iPhone but I’ve been on a boat with a BlackBerry. I’ve had 2% milk when there was no whole left. I don’t want to ever have to imagine what it would be like to mourn my brother. I like to dance, so I think I know how. I only learned how to adjust my rearview mirror last year. I felt disconnect before but compassion now. I learned how to make a grilled cheese sandwich after reading an article on the internet. Sometimes I can explain myself. So maybe this really isn’t about everyone for everyone, but for me and maybe just me or for everyone who thinks a little bit like me.

Thanks for the poem, Amanda.
Guest

You don’t know what it’s like, Amanda, to try to wade through the confusion of why you are successful at all. Seriously.
Also the DONATE TO ME, AMANDA PALMER! button under thepoem on this page? That’s the frosting on the MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE cake!
So tacky.
EastCoastSteff

You don’t know what it’s like, Amanda, to try to wade through the confusion of why you are successful at all. Seriously.
Also the DONATE TO ME, AMANDA PALMER! button under thepoem on this page? That’s the frosting on the MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE cake!
So tacky.
John W.

I think this is great.
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

I just peed and pooped myself, in other words five out of three stars, WELL DONE
MrMasto

I liked it. Take a breath, y’all.
http://www.facebook.com/mayo04 Todd Mayo

A poem may appear to mean very different things to different readers, and all of these meanings may be different from what the author thought he meant. For instance, the author may have been writing some peculiar personal experience, which he saw quite unrelated to anything outside; yet for the reader the poem may become the expression of a general situation, as well as of some private experience of his own. The reader’s interpretation may differ from the author’s and be equally valid—it may even be better. There may be much more in a poem than the author was aware of. The different interpretations may all be partial formulations of one thing; the ambiguities may be due to the fact that the poem means more, not less, than ordinary speech can communicate. —T.S. Eliot
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  T.S. Eliot also famously believed that lots of poems were amateur shitfests. No doubt he would feel that way about this piece of garbage. Read some of his criticisms. In the passage you are quoting he is talking about good poetry, not amateurish shit.
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

i want to make love to you amanda
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

we will do it filthy, with pee and poop
http://twitter.com/theoccupier Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

A fine piece of cadaver-sourcing Amanda. #ghoulishcashinginonthe deadandmaimed
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

HOLLAND 1945
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

sarah v. I already hate you that much and possibly more
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

has anyone else noticed that ellen degeneres has a frightening lesbian rubbery face
terrijane

Simply a search for understanding and one possible perspective. Not worthy of hate nor of worship.
http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy

time to spend a few hours downvoting everyone
- ranfan
  
  Gotta love the dedication lol.
Nádia Cortez Brasil

Are you a person admirable! Congratulations on your courage to express human feelings so much against barbarism.
http://twitter.com/NancyFuknPants Pants

I don’t understand how we can demand peace while attacking each other. All Amanda has done here is express herself how she knows best, through art. She is clearly no taking sides nor pushing her ideas on anybody. This is just a poem, kids. If we want to change the big picture we have to start from within and with each other. I love you , Amanda and I love your poem. It is helping me cope with my own feeling sand frustrations about the situation, it Is helping me feel less alone. As I stated on twitter, for each mean blog comment and twitter comment directed towards Amanda…I just love her a lil bit more. Peace.
- http://twitter.com/NerdsAreFaggots A Gay Guy
  
  I want to have sex with you
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  the natural reaction to poetry is criticism, it always has been and always will be. to demand that we not discuss the poem is to demand that we not appreciate poetry.
  - Big Ed
    
    You are correct… and this poem deserves all the criticism it is getting.
- Barry Stephenson
  
  ‘It is helping me cope with my own feelings. . .’
  Yes Pants, it’s all about me isn’t it. People have lost legs and family members. But it’s all about me.
backagain

I figured out what the “two percent” refers to – what goes into coffee! So proud of myself. Very bougie (& here I thought it referred to socioeconomic status!)
http://twitter.com/mArusyA_ts masha tsarkova

as long as i know, the kid’s still a suspect (not convicted yet). people are ready to judge too soon. no one actually wants to know what really happened and what brought “the evil” there. people are not all black and white, you know. i think that’s what Amanda meant. how can we be so sure it never happens to any of us?
advice columnist

Amanda, I think this may be the end. Good bye
- wilder125
  
  Flying off the handle are ye
Chachskins

wow, what an dumb twat.
- http://twitter.com/eliasanderson Elias
  
  Yes horrible for an artist to express herself through art. THE NERVE.
SEM

Upon reading the poem I did not get the impression that she was trying to conjure up sympathy for him. I feel that it is dripping in sarcasm and refers to the fact that he is a heartless bastard. Poetry is not literal.
http://www.facebook.com/Theisraelite Benjamin Stacey

the media (spin.com) are massively miss the point she was trying to make. It was a poem meant to reflect humanity in times like these not be smug, and patronizing or make any attempt to prompt her self unlike reviews of it.
Princess Charming Ridicule is nothing to be scared of Don’t you ever, don’t you ever Stop being dandy, showing me you’re handsome
http://twitter.com/eliasanderson Elias

I know a LOT of you came here specifically to anonymously shit on something, and you know what, that’s fine, because it’s what the Internet was built on. If you like it or hate it, that’s valid. What bothers me are the people that start their comment with “I used to teach poetry” or “I’m a writer too”, and then use that to project their negative opinion as FACT, as if their opinion actually transcends the opinions of everyone else. If you used to teach poetry you should know that it is all subjective, and if you’re a writer you should know not everyone will understand what you’re going for, whether it’s with an essay or a poem or a novel.

To say something like this: “I’m a writer too (google my name if you dare); so I can say with
complete authority that your ‘poem’ contains nothing but rambling
thoughts without artistic merit.”

To me that just reeks of desperate jealousy.
Chachskins

Donate to Neil Gaiman’s wife? Anyone who donates to you needs their head examined, as do you yourself.
poet

Poem for Amanda

“you don’t know what it’s like to be a narcissist.
you don’t know what it’s like to have that kind of shame inside.
you don’t know what it’s like to need attention all the time.”
The Panhandler Poet

GIVE ME FIVE DOLLAR
- http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
  
  But I won’t love you long time because Well, I’m amandapalmer and I only take and give nothing!
FBI Field Office Sgt. Bradley

HAY GUYS DON’T MIND ME I’M JUST A NORMAL GUY HANGING OUT, THERE’S NO NEED TO BE UPSET
Big Ed

Well… you got the attention you crave. Hope you feel better. I know the families of those killed and maimed for life are moved by your “empathy” for the bomber.

Maybe I just don’t get poetry, or it could be your poem just sucked.
- sickofit5
  
  I would say #2 option
- wilder125
  
  Or it could be as she said, that the poem is everyone not one
- stormypink
  
  Maybe you belong on the Metallica blog
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Fann/100000368571724 Alan Fann

Capital A Awesome.

Response:

We want to change what we see instead of seeing who we are. I am the terrorist if I cannot accept my own ugliness and his inglorious beauty in his lostness. We created Dzhokhar, by not making enough safe space for him to see us as his friend and brother.

Instead, our leader made us weapons – killing, maiming and being hypocritical. We all dispensed fear and loathing. Otherness.

I, if no one else can, must be a friend of Dzhokhar’s possible enlightenment. Dusty Liberators All who pump blood and the breath of life when they are alive and recognize another just as he is. Who is your captor?

We are all weak in some ways and run from our part in the pain. My tears are wet and my voice is weak. None of us are alone.

Love not fear or hate. Sew it, so it would seem. Just love.

http://featherphil.tumblr.com/post/48613170991/i-will-seek-better-images-with-enhanced-quality-to
Nocty

Hey Amanda, and everyone else looking,

I’m one of those people who ‘usually doesn’t post on these things, but now has to throw their two cents in…’

When I read this poem, I imagine about a dozen different ‘you’s. One is Dzhokhar, another is his victim, with amputated limbs, one is someone trapped in their house whilst the police were searching for him, another is sighing over not being able to get their preferred carton of milk, and so it continues. By my interpretation, therefore, this poem stands for all of us, webbed together by the tragedy that Dzhokhar was at the heart of. We were all doing something at the moment he was hiding in that boat. Some of it was completely mundane, like picking at our fingers whilst watching the coverage, or worrying about our finances. Some of us were closer, directly effected by his actions. And then there’s Dzhokhar.
- stormypink
  
  Thank you…you get it.
a

#amandapalmer “I got 1,000 comments on Twitter today”
Some liberal jack ass

IF ONLY WE GAVE LITTLE DZHOKHAR MORE WELFARE AND BIGGER SCHOLARSHIPS, THEN MAYBE HE WOULDN’T HAVE SET OFF BOMBS THAT KILLED AND MAIMED 200 PEOPLE

MAYBE WE NEEDED TO SEND A HUG PATROL TO HIS PLACE OF RESIDENCE
suzyq

Amanda FFFF Palmer, you have my admiration madam! Leave it to you to be bold enough to put into a poem what you and I and countless others are thinking and feeling about the incident. When someone like you (a compliment) is willing to speak up, other can speak more freely in what might otherwise be a hostile environment. Thank you, you touched my heart.
12th

wow. about time to kill comments on this thread and I just got here.
also, one-thousand-and-first
hipster supreme

roses are red
violets are blue
hitler sure was a cutie
he killed lots of jews
Eddie Dane

Well, that 9/11 poem did do wonders for leelee sobieski’s career…
tumblr reader

god you are the worst. you didn’t write this for him, you wrote it for you so you could use this terrible event to get yourself some more attention and try to get some more funding to keep yourself in the lifestyle to which you’ve become accustomed. just save us all the heartache of reliving the tragedy of Boston through your insipid eyes and start another kickstarter campaign.
- JAne
  
  you don’t have to read this if you don’t want to.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1424779101 Russ Turk

Amanda,

I really do like many of your songs, especially the ones that you wrote for Meow Meow.
I don’t think this poem is just about the 2 bombers…but you name check the surviving one in the title and some of the references are obviously about them both. The victims are not even in the ground yet.
I think you could have waited a while.
Just my 2 cents.
http://coinoperatedbear.deviantart.com/ CoinOperatedBear

Heal

The wound is fresh in the collective conscious when art appears.
It has to be for our goldfish memories
and the wound finds itself lightly salted.
Salt dries out infection, even if it hurts.
Retribution then, is sugar.
It feels good, tastes sweet.
Howl for blood
because it feels like the right thing to do.
Because you are hurt and angry and don’t want to heal yet.
You want nothing more than blood for blood.
This is the infection.
So when someone comes along with salt,
a sober word, a poem, you recoil
crying “it’s too soon! you’re horrible!”
confusing empathy with absolution
and asking to understand the unfathomable.
“How dare you? How dare you feel differently?
You’re ruining a perfectly evil monster!
You’re asking for understanding too close, too soon!”
Understanding is not forgiveness
as empathy is not absolution
And the addiction to retribution rears its ugly head.
It is sugar, sweet to taste
and brings rot to the insides.
The heart beats without being until it stops.
“It’s too soon!” For some, it’s always too soon.
How long until it’s been long enough?
How soon is now?
You sing the chorus and miss the point:
“I am human and I need to be loved.
Just like everybody else does”
Retribution wants to remove humanity,
it’s easier to howl for blood when you’re howling at an animal.
Retribution wants its revenge sweet, hot and sticky.
Because it tastes good, because it lets you sleep at night.
So when a poem calmly reminds you that a human is still a human
and violent, vicious acts don’t come out of nowhere
that empathy is not absolution
and understanding is not forgiveness
it feels impossible. It’s too soon.
This is the infection.
Nursing it like a thorn in your mouth,
sucking your own blood until it poisons you
because it’s sweet and you don’t want to let go
of the black and white, good and evil narrative,
ignoring the multitude of greys in between for the red
on the streets and in your stomach.
Retribution is addiction and empathy and understanding
feel like too much to ask, afraid that sweet anger
will suddenly leave you and leave you empty.
Retribution is an infection that will make you fear feeling anything else
and lash out at those who do, keeping you from healing
Retribution kept a hole in New York for a decade.
And a poem, a painting, a song falls like a grain of salt
drying out the infection, calm and slow,
pulling the thorn out, letting the wound heal,
asking for empathy, for understanding in an era short on both.
Empathy is not absolution.
Understanding is not forgiveness.
Noone says you can’t be angry, you will feel how you feel.
It will hurt like hell and feel too soon
but one day, you will feel better
and art will still be there.
That Word Grrl

Actually I quite liked it. I thought that some of the metaphysical imagery was really particularly effective.
Oh … and interesting rhythmic devices too, which seemed to counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor of the humanity of the poet’s
compassionate soul, which contrives through the medium of the verse
structure to sublimate this, transcend that, and come to terms with the
fundamental dichotomies of the other, and one is left with a profound
and vivid insight into whatever it was the poem was about.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nik-James/688066662 Nik James

You should be ashamed of yourself as a poet, because this poem is terrible. But more so, you should be ashamed of yourself as a human being. This self interested exploitation of tragedy is disgraceful.
Toucan Sam

I don’t get it, none of this makes any sense.
Jane

I loved this poem. it sort of expresses what I’ve been feeling for the past three days.
http://www.facebook.com/kymberlee.dellaluce Kymberlee della Luce

I am not a regular follower of yours but I heard about the hullabaloo and wanted to stop by and see what’s up. I appreciate what you’ve done here–the compassion, the humanity and deep seeing. I’ve had a hard time making sense of all of this and somehow this helps me. I feel less alone with my ability to see his humanity. Thank you. <3
- Barry Stephenson
  
  If a man rapes and tortures you, I’ll write you a poem. Do you think it will help you feel less alone with your ability to see his humanity?
Rickyricardo

You don’t know how to write poetry
Wesley Willis

She’s some trust fund hipster from the heart of Boston
She writes bad poetry about terrorists
She makes a lot of shitty music
She don’t shave her arm pits

Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS

She thinks she’s an artist
She thinks she’s a musician
She doesn’t know the way to New York
Lick a hyena’s greasy ball sac

Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS,
Amanda Palmer SUCKS

Rock over London, Rock on Chicago
Dr. Pepper – Just What The Doctor Ordered
- http://twitter.com/PersonalGenius Danyell
  
  Her art sucks because she doesn’t shave her armpits?
  - DUH
    
    No, her art sucks because she has no talent. Try to keep up.
http://twitter.com/eliasanderson Elias

Man someone should REALLY write THEIR critique of this poem in the form OF A POEM! I mean BECAUSE ORIGINALITY.
- lentower
  
  Quite a few attempts below.
  
  Though Musings poem expressing her feelings about the tragedy, though not a critique, is better than the rest, and up there with Amanda’s.
witchbyrd

hey everybody look at amanda palmer hey everyone pay attention to amanda palmer amanda amanda amanda palmer palmer palmer hey everyone look at amanda stop paying attention to this national tragedy because amanda palmer needs attention
- stormypink
  
  Never mind that she is from Boston, she loves Boston and was 3 miles from the blasts and she is writing on her own blog about how she feels about the bombing, not about what the bomber was feeling. It is America, not some commie country where you cannot express your opinions. You certainly expressed them on this blog…..
  - http://twitter.com/witchbyrd roxy l
    
    you’re right, this IS about her.
Ravic

Just plain stupid.
http://twitter.com/rustyventura majcameron

Asking why this poem doesn’t rhyme is like asking why the dining car was out of champagne after a train wreck. This collection of words is a train wreck.
- http://twitter.com/eliasanderson Elias
  
  Nooooooo asking why this poem doesn’t rhyme is to have a child’s understanding of poetry.
Air_Cav

Wow, what a bad poem. It is the worst I have ever read. I can’t say, as some have, it is the worst poem ever.

It has to close though.
george

a thought provoking bit of artistry…well done; in my humble opinion
Maestro in Queens

Why doesn’t it rhyme?
boo

boo
carl poemliker

This “poem” makes wonder what is down under….. amandas brain bc this “poem” definitely does NoT rhyme
http://twitter.com/PersonalGenius Danyell

It’s so weird that people who hate her music would also hate this poem. Whodathunkit?
HealthyAmerican

Attention-whoring at its most blatant and obvious. Nothing says “hey, look at me and make me feel relevant!” like jumping up and down on the fresh grave of an eight year old boy, among others. And for all that, the prose is terrible.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  Not only that, but it doesn’t even rhyme.
janedon’tcare

It’s funny that when someone writes something poetic there is always a reader that believes their interpretation is the actual truth behind the writer’s words. The situation behind this poetic work is something that is hard to fathom. How do two young men, brothers at that, decide that it is their choice to make for others to live or die. Is there a cause behind it? From our point of view, it seems only craziness. On a cool spring day, at an event that is continued each year and followed by people all over the world, hate makes an appearance. It shows itself through the faces of two young men. We wonder what could they be thinking? How could their hearts be so calloused and cold to not stop for a moment and absorb the pain they are going to inflict? And why do they hate so deeply a people, a country that has offered them so much? We can look at every angle of their life and find some reasons for injury to their ego or self esteem, but to the degree that they choose to decide the fate of others? This life is not ours and definately not ours to decide for others. There are atrocities everyday and we wonder why, how? What makes people go over the edge or let hate dominate their thinking to the point that they cause unending grief and pain and terror to people they have never even met. Who could hurt a child?

In the ashes that remain after, we are left to wonder with such intensity because it is so hard to fathom and we turn to the one thing that seems to make sense; rationalizing. There is nothing rational in the mind of someone who can do these things. They take that step over the edge that has no return. Who they once were, is gone. I feel for their parents. More so I feel for everyone who was present that day because whether directly or indirectly, their lives were affected, changed. The hate that carried those bombs in that day is now in the ashes that covered the people, the street, the air. We have to work to remove that hate and dispose of it.

Poetry can sometimes act as a buffer to the fear, grief, and loss that we feel at something so unexplainable; an act so atrocious. When there are no answers to our questions why, we write words to make us think.
- stormypink
  
  Bet the men and women who supported the Crusades thought they were rational.
L.ann

This poem makes me think of every person in existence. After an event such as the Boston bombing many things are put into perspective. Something such as a lung full of air, knowing where to go or what to do. I feel lost and alone in this poem. I have taken Dzhokhar out of this poem. Yes, it is only natural to plug him into it, with his name in the title and direct instances. “You don’t know… ” this phrase rings in my head about many things that happened that day and everyday. My heart goes out to all families that were affected by this tragedy. Hopefully this will all stop one day.
http://twitter.com/eliasanderson Elias

I don’t see how this is in support of or sympathetic to the bomber(s). To me it means yes, this was horrible, yes, this was gruesome, but you know what? It’s not going to stop us. In the face of this horrendous act of violence we will return to our daily lives. 9/11 didn’t break us, and this has no chance of it. Kind of a subtle “fuck you dude, nice try though” to the bomber.
juandos

OMG!

What idiotic and insipid drivel!
junojuno

who is amanda palmer?
- stormypink
  
  too bad you don’t know, Troll
Greg Boneman

Yo, that poem sucks.
- Iheartpoetry
  
  stop posing as someone else with the same handle. YOU SUCK!
Joe S. Walker

Posting that with a SUPPORT MY ART button underneath defies satire.
moo

hahahahahahahaahaahahaa!
Leila M

“Call it a masterpiece, call it a urinal; it doesn’t matter – it’s art, so there’s nothing to prove.”

I’m not sure I really get this poem – but I don’t feel that I need to. I’m not basing my understanding of the situation on Amanda’s poem, and it IS important to consider people’s humanity. I think it’s funny that people (trolls?) are fighting either over the humanity of a terrorist or, hey, right on the same level, what makes good poetry. My two cents: poems don’t have to rhyme. You might get mad at that if you like rhyming poetry, but everyone’s got an opinion.

I think it’s worth notice that it’s a poem “for Dzhokhar,” not “about” him. I think if she’d used “about” in the title, it would make a big difference in how she’d want it interpreted.
Leila M

“Call it a masterpiece, call it a urinal; it doesn’t matter – it’s art, so there’s nothing to prove.”

I’m not sure I really get this poem – but I don’t feel that I need to. I’m not basing my understanding of the situation on Amanda’s poem, and it IS important to consider people’s humanity. I think it’s funny that people (trolls?) are fighting either over the humanity of a terrorist or, hey, right on the same level, what makes good poetry. My two cents: poems don’t have to rhyme. You might get mad at that if you like rhyming poetry, but everyone’s got an opinion.

I think it’s worth notice that it’s a poem “for Dzhokhar,” not “about” him. I think if she’d used “about” in the title, it would make a big difference in how she’d want it interpreted.
- Coach K
  
  Did a Nazi killing 8 year olds in concentration camps have “humanity”?
  Dzhokhar has no “humanity”
  He is a cold blooded killer who smiled and partied after detonating those bombs last Monday.
  Quit trying so hard to be “sophisticated” and accept that he is one hateful dude who should die.
mike

you don’t know how to write a good poem
Pussywillows

Thank you for this. I needed to read something like this like you wouldn’t believe. I had friends who were there and who I couldn’t get in touch with for a frighteningly long time. My heart goes out to the victims. But I also can’t stop thinking about what happens to someone to make them go down this sort of path. And how he wasn’t always like this. He was someone’s child. I’ve been talking a lot to a family member whose son killed someone over two decades ago. He’s in prison for life. His mother says it’s hard for her because she hates what he did and he deserves to face the consequences but he is still her son and she can’t even talk about him with anyone. Once he became ‘a monster’ the boy he used to be could only exist inside her head and it hurts my heart.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001164662661 Susan Daniels

This is how I feel about DT. Right here. Let’s speak in poetry.

http://susandanielspoetry.com/2013/04/22/on-giving-blood/
Runner

“you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway.”

I bet those people who no longer have knees from the marathon could probably tell you.
- stormypink
  
  Could this be a reference to Muslims?
atlanta girl

Amongst all the spamming hate, I’d like to throw in an I love you Amanda, and your poem too. xoxo
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie

the poem was helpful. the comments have become harmful. i am totally sucked into it, but have to remove myself for a bit because people’s cruelty is hurting my heart. and it was already broken by images of blood soaked sidewalks on CNN. by so much life lost. by knowing that someone was so damaged and full of suffering they would commit such a heinous act which caused so much more suffering. from the faces of the wounded and the dead on my computer screen. from the faces of those believed to have done this. it is heart breaking. and my heart can’t take any more hits right now. so, to the readers of this poem, if you are angry, and who isn’t, please take into consideration that how you express that affects people. i am not asking anyone not to express anger. i’m a fan of anger. i think it is a vital component of the healing process. i am asking you to not feed people’s suffering. there’s already plenty going around.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000131841090 Michael Furie
  
  also, POEMS DON’T HAVE TO RHYME.
  - http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
    
    Uh, I have a college degree and I can assure you that poems DO have to rhyme.
    - Pussywillows
      
      Uh, I have graduate degrees and I can assure you that poems DO NOT have to rhyme.
      
      Education level is a silly way to back up arguments but whatever. What was your degree in? Also, Google some famous poets.
    - Christ Why
      
      I think you should sue whatever college you went to.
Jax Teller

You’ll look great in a burka.
bess

She’s a Bostonian reacting to a tragedy. Calm down, people.
- The Green Devil
  
  Usually people react to a tragedy by sympathizing with the victims, not blowing the murderer.
- rory
  
  exactly
snarkoleptic

you don’t know from iambic pentameter
you have a gaping hole in your pocketbook
your pocket has a book but it has no plot
your A/V Club username has been taken
your heartstrings are out of tune and nobody has a fork
you have a problem with art
you have a problem with art
you have a problem with art
you know you have a problem with art
you should probably look up the definition of art
you shouldn’t pretend to make art when you are selling yourself
you sold yourself for art but he was the security guard at the Gap
you will probably moderate this into oblivion to protect your art
you don’t respect my art
Tkoe

You kinda suck as a poet .
http://twitter.com/bigmoeduval Metta Whirled Peas

Why doesn’t the poem rhyme?
jess

Jesus christ there’s a lot of butthurt here.
I love you Amanda. Never seen someone so upset by a poem before, and that in itself is pretty awesome.
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  Yes, good job Amanda. This is a good poem because you managed to hurt many people, and in the end, isn’t that what art is all about?
pensacaola blues

HEY AMANDA PALMER…I KNOW YOU’VE PROVEN TO BE INCREDIBLY INSENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN A BID FOR EXTRA MEDIA PUSH ATTENTION SEEKING, BUT THIS IS A NEW LOW, EVEN FOR YOU. WHY NOT WRITE A “POEM” FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE MANY WOUNDED RUNNERS WHO LOST ARMS AND LEGS AND ARE FOREVER TRAPPED IN LIMBO. WHY GLORIFY THE VICARIOUS MUSINGS OF A PSYCHOTIC TERRORIST? YOU AMAZE ME…DEEP INSIDE THERE IS AN ILLNESS IN YOU APPARENTLY THAT CALLS EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL. NOTHING OF SOCIAL CONSEQUENCE CAN COME OUT OF THIS “POEM” TRYING TO FOCUS ON AN EVIL TERRORIST, EVEN THOUGH YOU APPARENTLY FEEL SO. I HAD A SEMBLANCE OF ADMIRATION FOR SOME OF YOUR MUSIC ( THE NON CLOYING CLAUSTROPHOBIC KIND), BUT FOREVER I WILL DISASSOCIATE MYSELF FROM YOU AND YOUR BAND, WHOEVER YOU OPEN FOR OR WHATEVER FESTIVAL YOU PLAY. AREN’T YOU FROM BOSTON? WHY NOT A THINK PIECE ABOUT THE WALKING WOUNDED AND A THOUGHTFUL MEMORIAL FOR THE DEAD? LIBERAL LIBERAL LIBERAL EPIC FAIL.UTTERLY DISGUSTING,AMANDA PALMER BOYCOTT FOR LIFE.
notyou

krystle was a friend of mine. personally, whether the poem is good or bad, right or wrong, or whatever…its doesn’t matter. because two people did a horrible thing, and all we can hope for is that some answers come to light and justice is delivered. sitting around your computers debating this is ridiculous. let it be. instead of bickering and talking out your asses about things none of us know ANYTHING about, go out there and do something fucking positive. shit is trivial…people are dead, who cares what the poem is about. its her art and really she doesn’t have to explain it to any of you. regardless of the subject matter and how it is intended.
gvanderleun

Palmer to apply for conjugal visits with the human turd. Short KY jelly.
WhyNeilWhy

Only you could take a tragedy, make it about yourself, tell everyone that’s not what you’re doing, then include a link at the bottom of the poem asking for personal donations.
http://www.facebook.com/samantha.vanschoick Samantha VanSchoick

Regardless of topic, this is just a pretty awful poem. Repetition is a useful technique, but should be used sparingly.
cornchipswithcranberryjuice

I feel like drinking Cranberry juice and eating corn chips after reading this crappy poem.
illhueminati

hello. art student and poet here (can’t afford college tho lol) — just wondering
why your
pome
doesn
not
rhyme
?
- Pussywillows
  
  Do you not know much about poetry? Because poetry doesn’t have to rhyme and anyone with even a basic knowledge of poetry would know this…
  - http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
    
    Can you cite a source for this? I have a liberal arts degree and I promise you, poetry does have to rhyme.
    - frieda
      
      Are you… joking? A degree in what? I hope it wasn’t anything even vaguely related to English because if so your college ripped you off by letting you get a degree without teaching you even the most basic facts about almost ALL the poetry of the ENTIRE TWENTIETH CENTURY.
      Some literary journals won’t even ACCEPT rhyming poetry now because it’s such an antiquated form. Modern poetry rarely rhymes, that is how the genre has evolved.
      For more information on non-rhyming poetry, try looking into the works of… hmm… EVERY SINGLE POET LAUREATE OF THE PAST 100 YEARS.
    - Pussywillows
      
      Source? Yeah, actually. It’s called the entire fucking literary world.
    - Pussywillows
      
      Also, since this concept is hard for many of you, let’s start off with something super easy to understand. Feel free to read Poetry for Dummies:
      
      http://www.writerscafe.org/courses/Poetry-for-Dummies/6168/Poems-DO-NOT-Have-to-Rhyme/6171/
    - Christ Why
      
      Idiot.
  - illhueminati
    
    its a question for the artist, its not a condemnation, and i dont see why you need to be so rude. fly away, troll
    - Pussywillows
      
      Troll? Okay person claiming to know about poetry but rabidly insisting all poetry has to rhyme.
- lentower
  
  poetry doesn’t need to rhyme.
  - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
    
    Do you have a source for this claim? Or is this just your opinion? Needless to say, though, I’d like to hear from the author herself about why the poem has no rhymes in it.
    - lentower
      
      Hermit Thrush
      
      There are these really neat web sights called search engines.
      
      For example, you can go to
      https://duckduckgo.com/
      and ask your question, and find many answers.
      
      But as that takes a little computer literacy to learn to do this,
      please let me help you out:
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
      - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
        
        The burden of proof is on you to show that poetry “does not have to” rhyme, when rhyme has been an integral part of European poetry for centuries. In fact we can trace this back in other languages, where similar techniques rely on commonalities between the structure of words at certain points in the meter. For example read Homer in its original ancient greek. Now I don’t doubt that once an EDUCATED poet has mastered traditional forms he can move to more abstract styles like blank verse. As it stands, the piece of shit we are discussing here is just words vomited into lines by an “artist” (not poet) who is really a musician, and tellingly the last line is repeated as if it is the chorus of a pop song’s lyrics.
      - lentower
        
        You asked for a reference, I provided one. Now you want even more from me.
        
        If you had read it, you would find out that non-rhyming poetry has ALSO been an integral part of European poetry for centuries.
        
        If you had read any of the links to other similar Wikipedia pages, and the outside references, you would find even more evidence.
        
        Of course, if you want to insist on your own narrow view of what poetry is – you have the right. But it’s not accepted by Amanda Palmer, as well as those who are poetry scholars and lovers, and serious about art and literature.
        
        So, if you want to convince us, that your narrow point of view is the one we should adopt, the burden of proof is on you. Serious references and scholarly research please.
  - Guest
    
    i’m not condemning the poem for not rhyming. clearly the Illuminated Poetess Goddess Amanda Palmer made a deliberate decision by writing the pome in blank verse. I’d like to hear from you. You can get off your horse now, white knight, and let Goddess Amanda speak for herself
    - illhueminati
      
      oops i didnt sign in and also that sentence should say
      i’d liek to hear from HER
    - lentower
      
      Perhaps Amanda will reply to you. Like all of us, she has a full life.
      
      Btw, her poem above is in free verse, not blank verse.
Bin Laden Wore Underpants, Too

Donate $5 to “support your mission”, really. Wow, those Dresden Dolls royalties must be drying up.
The Onion Seller

Booo on Amanda! I heard she worships the devil and drinks AIDS juice while breaking wind at easily offended old ladies! I heard she eats babies with relish! Not the condiment. She eats them with vigorous gusto!

May your blog burn in the eternal fires of the unwashed you heathen whore!

Jk love ya!
http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/ Ann Brocklehurst

While you and your supporters have talked yourselves into believing that this “poem” represents empathy, what it actually embodies is the opposite, a complete lack thereof.

True empathy must proceed from understanding, which means that in order foryou and others to offer empathy to Dzhokar Tsarnaev you need to comprehend what for every civilized person is incomprehensible — namely why he would plant a bomb designed to kill and maim, stick around to watch the damage he had inflicted, and then tweet out that very evening “’god hates dead people?’ Or victims of tragedies? Lol those people are cooked.”

You have neither asked nor attempted to answer these questions. Rather you ignore the murders and maimings committed by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. What you call empathy is merely an apologia for horrific violence, and by giving voice to it, you deny empathy to everyone who is truly suffering from the actions of your poem’s subject.
ChrisL

I don’t have a clue why someone would want to humanize a terrorist? Very strange, unless of course they want some publicity. Then it makes sense.
- Stefan
  
  It is not necessary to humanize a human being. And it certainly a bad idea to de-humanize one.
Gurp

Why doesn’t it rhyme
- lentower
  
  It’s in free verse, which doesn’t have to rhyme.
mike

BY THE WAY, THE OTHER “MIKES” ARE NOT ME, BUT POSTURING IDIOTS. MY SENTIMENT WAS EXPRESSED DIFFERENTLY…AND IN ALL CAPS. NOT LIKE SOME OF THE FOOLS BELOW WRITING PREPOSTEROUS IDIOCY.
- mike
  
  LOL DISREGARD I SUCK COCKS
  - MIKE
    
    IDIOT. SERIOUSLY, SOME OF US ARE EXPRESSING TRUE SENTIMENT AND THE GOOD OLD AMERICAN DISSENT AND TROLLS LIKE YOU ARE DETRACTING AND DOWNRIGHT ANNOYING LIKE AN 8TH GRADER.
Kevin Triplett

There’s a difference between being a victim and being a product of society. I’m graduating from university in a few weeks and the recent years have expressed nothing but a national apathy towards those who are not functional in society, as well as a demonizing of sympathizers. People die every day – but moreover, it’s not just good people who die. It’s the good people with the bad ideas, the bad people with the good intentions, the people who are just indifferent. I really don’t know where I stand on this man, but that does not make him any less of a man. His actions now do not give you any insight into the world he lived in – internally or externally. So to outright disavow his personhood and condemn him as perpetrator means we have no insight into lives we can’t relate to. The bombings were a tragedy there is no one acting as if there is a shred of positive energy that can come from those deaths. But the angry, hatred, dehumanization found in these comments rehashes the way we shame, antagonize, and reject each other: it shows the ways in which you can fall through the cracks while getting models of hate. Hate is painful. It seethes, writhes, and destroys your brain and heart till you are a product of hate yourself.

That being said, love is the answer. Peace is the answer. Mediation and reflection are the answer. Responding to these injustices with anger perpetuates them and shows everyone that it’s okay to reciprocate violence for violence. Trying to understand, to be reflexive, and to mourn are productive ways to take this incident as an insight into how life is structured systematically and structurally. It’s not so simple as being born and being who you want to be: you’re constantly being told who you should be, that you’re not enough, that you’re too sad or skinny or large or angry or restricted or gay or black or white or ethnic or proud or rich or poor or at blame or responsible.

All in all, I feel like this hate is unnecessary. If you’re unhappy with the poem, be unhappy. Channel it into your everyday drive and be better than it and show the world YOU know how to mourn, to think, to be whatever. If you like the poem, like it, and find ways to connect to it. It doesn’t require a mediation of hate.
Eggs Benedict

parsley and sage and rosemary and thyme
i don’t understand why this poem don’t rhyme
- Christ Why
  
  You are a moron.
BeeJACKS22

Support your mission and give you money, uh no.
Jake Jenkins

You don’t know how awful this is, you don’t know how to get over yourself
AMANDA PARMER

GIEF MONIEZ PLOX
Sammy U

Narcissistic Leftwing fucking bullshit.
- iamstephenruiz
  
  Don’t blame the left for this. Most of us ain’t cosigning this bullshit.
Mike

Next time I purposefully leave a bomb at the foot of an 8-year old boy, detonate it, and proceed to party like nothing happened – I know who to go to for comfort. He’s just misunderstood.
elaine

a poem for dzhokhar.

they say your brother dragged you into it,

the conquering warrior intent on land mass, on massive ego,

they say his convictions were not your own

but in a land so far from home, so far from family,

who else did you have?

they say, they say.

if reincarnation is real, i know you will return

as a monarch butterfly:

regal, kingly, stately,

but a power so fleeting as to be no power at all.

from a place of safety you will emerge,

from the wide, sweeping branches

of a royal tree in the heights of the highest mountain:

and, opening your frail wings,

you will be hard-pressed to not be caught up

in the harsh, high winds.

you will experience an unbearable weightlessness,

unthinkable strengthlessness,

you who are named in a tradition of kings and warriors,

you will be stunned by the violence of the world:

appreciable, in your brief beauty;

squashable, like all other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA Booker (D-Moronic Meadows)

I swear, you gotta be the biggest jacka** in the country to even have the slightest bit of sympathy for this guy. Maybe if you got your legs blown off last Monday, your opinion would be different. About a 100+ people are disabled, my dear. And the folks who liked your article are on the same boat of jacka****!
RightWired

Here, let me try:

Roses are red,
Violets are blue
You suck, commie apologist pinko
- http://www.facebook.com/eve.condon Eve Wartenberg Condon
  
  classy
  - RightWired
    
    Yep, but not quite as ‘classy’ as empathizing with a child murderer. But whatever floats your boat.
    - http://www.facebook.com/eve.condon Eve Wartenberg Condon
      
      you have convinced me of your moral superiority. Congrats.
      - RightWired
        
        And you, your moral vapidity. Back to celebrating the child murderer with ya.
        
        When you’re finished, I bet Kermit Gosnell could use perk me up too.
Frieda

DEAR EVERYONE:

You are perfectly entitled to find Amanda’s poem offensive. You are perfectly entitled to think it is a bad poem. You are perfectly entitled to think it is the wrong time and place to post it. But the lack of education here is making me sad, annoyed, and pedantic, so here’s a little education for y’all:

POETRY DOES NOT HAVE TO RHYME. IN FACT, RHYMING POETRY HAS NOT BEEN A PART OF THE MAINSTREAM POETIC TRADITION FOR DECADES. MANY ESTEEMED LITERARY JOURNALS REFUSE TO PUBLISH RHYMING POETRY FORMS ON THE GROUNDS THAT THEY ARE ANTIQUATED TO THE MODERN GENRE.

Poetry is an art form that uses creative and unexpected use of language to create a response with the reader. Rhyme is one tool that poetry sometimes uses to create a response. It links two words and ideas together and it creates a pleasing sense of symmetry, which is often the effect that the poet is going for. However, it is but one tool in the poet’s toolkit, which also involves meter, symbolism, metaphor, synechdoche, imagery, simile, assonance, dissonance, caesura, personification and onomatopoeia. Saying that a poem that doesn’t rhyme isn’t a poem because it doesn’t rhyme is like saying a watercolour isn’t a painting because it doesn’t use oil paint.

And here’s another truth bomb for you all: Most of the poet laureates of the past 100 years have written in unrhymed forms at one time or another.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  Source? Also this would be a stronger argument if the poem we’re talking about did indeed use meter, symbolism, metaphor, synechdoche, imagery, simile, assonance, dissonance, caesura, personification or onomatopoeia. But it did not. It is a shit poem.
  - Guest
    
    Pick up any poetry journal at random written in the last 100 years. There’s your source.
- Alex
  
  Direct yourself to @hermit_thrush on twitter, scroll back a few hours. I bet that monologue feels a little wasted now huh, considering that the vast majority were joking.
- Pottery_Fan12
  
  Poems usually rhyme???
- http://twitter.com/BaronVonSnake Pokemon Otis
  
  It is true that many poets laureat have written non-rhyming (incorrect) poems as opposed to rhyming (normal) poems at some point in their careers, much like many bestselling authors have at some point misspelled common words. However, that does not explain why Amanda Palmer chose to writer her poem in this odd fashion.
  - Guest
    
    Many poets laureate have written exclusively in unrhymed poetry, deliberately, as it is their style. I don’t much care if you personally don’t like unrhymed poetry, the entire literary establishment disagrees with you, and you, (ahem), “Pokemon Otis” don’t get to define what literature is in some comments section on the internet.
    You. Utter. Tool.
    - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
      
      “many”? Can you name a few, and link to their work? Frankly this claim is hard to believe. All of Shakespeare’s sonnets rhymed.
      - Guest
        
        OH MY FREAKING GOD POETRY KEPT GOING AFTER SHAKESPEARE HOLY FUCK HE WROTE 500 YEARS AGO $*(#&6)!!!!!!!! Are you just trolling? Seriously?
        
        Someone above me already came up with a pretty good list, I’ll just copy-paste it. I don’t know how many of these are poet laureates, I know Whitman and Angelou and Williams and and I think Hughes were. But they’re all famous, highly studied and regarded poets. Google a bit.
        
        Langston Hughes
        Leonard Cohen
        William Carlos Williams
        Walt Whitman
        Sylvia Plath
        Maya Angelou
        Dylan Thomas
        Carl Sandburg
        Allen Ginsberg
        E.E. Cummings
        Jack Kerouac
      - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
        
        Where are the Links? Anyone can list names.
      - Guest
        
        Anyone can also google. Put on your big boy pants, I’m not going to do all the work for you.
      - http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
        
        The burdon of proof is on you. Go google “burden of proof”
- Daniel Ezra Johnson
  
  so was that a poem?
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  I can’t recall ever having read poetry without rhymes in it. Maybe you’ve been reading some stuff that isn’t poetry, and mistakenly thinking it was poetry.
  - Deerborne
    
    Langston Hughes
    Leonard Cohen
    William Carlos Williams
    Walt Whitman
    Sylvia Plath
    Maya Angelou
    Dylan Thomas
    Carl Sandburg
    Allen Ginsberg
    E.E. Cummings
    Jack Kerouac
    
    … off the top of my head. I apologize, the list would be longer but it’s been a couple of years since I got my literature degree.
    - illhueminati
      
      i think you mean e. e. cummings
  - Christ Why
    
    I think you, my friend, have read a lot of poetry, mistakenly thinking it was not.
- JohnBerryman
  
  Yeah but it’s a bad poem. The repetition at the start of each line is sophomoric at best. If you’re gonna write in free verse, fine. If you’re gonna have have regard for rhythm, rhyme or syllabics, at least say something interesting, do the John Ashbery ‘say two good things a line’ schtick or SOMETHING. This is just some oblique references to the Boston bombings mixed with some pseudo-intellectual approach at isolation and universality. It seems like she got up this morning and bashed it out in 10 minutes. There seems to be no real effort at construction, this is why people think poetry is stupid is because of shit like this! And then she has the nerve to ask for donations underneath?
  - Frieda
    
    Okay. You don’t like it. I don’t care. Not my point.
    - JohnBerryman
      
      Yes but clearly by your point about education, you know there’s a difference between good and bad poems, and technique may have something to do with that?
      - Aotearoa
        
        The idea that education can tell you what you should and should not like is a really unfortunate fallacy.
      - JohnBerryman
        
        It’s not about liking. I don’t like Henry James but he’s not a bad writer. This is bad, in the same way someone who can’t kick a ball in a straight line is bad at football. Technique, or innovation, or lyricism in poetry are things that are both partially taught and partially unteachable. I’m not admiring someone who displays none just because its her ‘art’.
- Jane
  
  Are you a total retard? Everyone talking about rhyming is just trying to sabotage AP’s tastless attempt to profit from others’ misery. You realise that everyone knows that not all poems rhyme? it’s just funny, cos AP is pretty mediocre and also takes herself VERY SERIOUSLY. Getting all po-faced and telling people stuff about rhyming that they already know just makes you look like a dolt.
- Im_Rick_James
  
  Poetry that doesn’t rhyme sucks.
- Ed
  
  There hasn’t BEEN much of any mainstream poetry since poetry stopped rhyming. Poetry that doesn’t rhyme flits around academia but rarely has any impact outside of it. There are reasons Robert Frost and Shakespeare are among the most quoted poets. Without some sort of structure (like rhyming, iambic pentameter, or some other system) most people can’t really connect with poems. I believe Rap was created because poetry stopped rhyming, and SOMETHING had to fill the deep human need for rhyme.
- http://www.facebook.com/cindy.north.927 Cindy North
  
  It’s not the lack of rhyming-it’s the lack of good poetry.
- feenix
  
  baloney!
  
  i am also a poet and have been writing for 25 years. i have been published more than once – and not in a blog. Not all poetry has to rhyme -true. but to make ANY generalizations or discuss “rules” about poetry is ironic to say the least and ludicrous b/c poetry is a literary expression that has NO rules by its very definition. What this “poem” was would be called “lazy” b/c there were none of the literary attributes you just listed within it. It is a lazy piece of work. It is a lame piece. I don’t just think
  it is offensive, rude, etc. I think it is written to get attention b/c of it’s OBVIOUS antagonistic nature.
  p.s. Songs are poetry. in the mainstream, most songs rhyme. ALL poet laureates wrote many types of poetry….including rhyme!
- ialkdsjf
  
  hahah and what you, o educated one, seem to lack the ability to see is that these people are doing it not because they dont know poetry doesnt have to rhyme its intelligent (well kinda) people who are trolling which is what amanda is doing
- poem liker
  
  Pretty sure you’re thinking of prose, actually.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
  BY ROBERT FROST
  
  Whose woods these are I think I know.
  His house is in the village though;
  He will not see me stopping here
  To watch his woods fill up with snow.
  
  My little horse must think it queer
  To stop without a farmhouse near
  Between the woods and frozen lake
  The darkest evening of the year.
  
  He gives his harness bells a shake
  To ask if there is some mistake.
  The only other sound’s the sweep
  Of easy wind and downy flake.
  
  The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
  But I have promises to keep,
  And miles to go before I sleep,
  And miles to go before I sleep.
http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush

Why is there absolutely no mention of Islam in this poem? And why don’t the lines rhyme? They don’t have to rhyme in succession like AABB. You could do ABAB or even ABCB.
Muscley Dave

This poem would be a lot better if it actually rhymed? Why doesn’t the poem rhyme?
- Christ Why
  
  Anyone who knows anything about poetry knows that poetry doesn’t need to rhyme.
  - Professor Viglebubes
    
    I’m a world-renowned professor in modern poetry, and I’m afraid the accepted format now is rhyming. If Amanda were one of my students (let’s pretend she would be accepted onto the course) she would get a D minus.
    - Pussywillows
      
      You’re so full of it. I can’t believe you thought this was at all believable.
      - Captain Mike Hunt, NYPD
        
        You realise that EVERYONE talking about rhyming – yes, including Professor Wiggly Boobs – is just here to tease Amanda Palmer and her collection of too-serious, slightly retarded, sycophantic fans. The fact that you don’t get this – and that you smugly point out that a Professor with a comedy name and comedy opinions is not in fact a real professor! – kinda proves the point.
    - Guest
      
      I TOTALLY believe you, professor stranger-on-the-internet.
Wu-Tang Forever

I find most of Amanda Palmer’s “art” to be about as deep and complex as a preschool finger-painting. Did she write this one on her hands in Sharpie also?
Not a Poet

I don’t agree with this poem. But that’s not the reason I’m commenting.

What I really want to say is that there are a few really insensitive people here ruining an important conversation. It’s important that we discuss why we do or do not agree – why everyone’s up in arms. So anyway, here’s a motto to try for a bit folks – it shouldn’t be that hard. “Don’t be an asshole.”
http://twitter.com/sweasel Stoaty Weasel

Oh, look: an attention whore, dabbing her hands in the blood of the dead and writing a mealticket.
ctmom

You know who can’t look down at his legs? The guy who had them blown off by
dzhokhar
iamstephenruiz

I’m glad you felt inserting yourself into this tragedy was the best way you could use your time, and that you made your donation form so much larger than the link to donate to the victims. After all, who needs more donations than millionaires? Obviously not people who were just injured in a terrorist attack.
truth

you think dzjokar gives a shit about 2% milk?? dissertation draft?? vietnamese soft rolls?? it’s not even sympathy for the bombing suspect, it’s just her rambling about dumb shit in her own life. that bit about “not paying attention till you look down at your legs” sounds like she forgot to shave. what a pathetic attempt at publicity. you should be ashamed to pass this off as art.
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  “the poem
  is actually about more than you think it is. read it again.”
  
  Don’t you realize that if you don’t like this poem it’s because you’re stupid and you don’t understand it? Stupid.
  - Barry Stephenson
    
    Classic ‘The Emperor has no clothes’. Is it not possible to understand it and still dislike it?
sfhjksft3267g

HEY AMANDA PALMER…I KNOW YOU’VE PROVEN TO BE INCREDIBLY INSENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN A BID FOR EXTRA MEDIA PUSH ATTENTION SEEKING, BUT THIS IS A NEW LOW, EVEN FOR YOU. WHY NOT WRITE A “POEM” FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE MANY WOUNDED RUNNERS WHO LOST ARMS AND LEGS AND ARE FOREVER TRAPPED IN LIMBO. WHY GLORIFY THE VICARIOUS MUSINGS OF A PSYCHOTIC TERRORIST? YOU AMAZE ME…DEEP INSIDE THERE IS AN ILLNESS IN YOU APPARENTLY THAT CALLS EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL. NOTHING OF SOCIAL CONSEQUENCE CAN COME OUT OF THIS “POEM” TRYING TO FOCUS ON AN EVIL TERRORIST, EVEN THOUGH YOU APPARENTLY FEEL SO. I HAD A SEMBLANCE OF ADMIRATION FOR SOME OF YOUR MUSIC ( THE NON CLOYING CLAUSTROPHOBIC KIND), BUT FOREVER I WILL DISASSOCIATE MYSELF FROM YOU AND YOUR BAND, WHOEVER YOU OPEN FOR OR WHATEVER FESTIVAL YOU PLAY. AREN’T YOU FROM BOSTON? WHY NOT A THINK PIECE ABOUT THE WALKING WOUNDED AND A THOUGHTFUL MEMORIAL FOR THE DEAD? LIBERAL LIBERAL LIBERAL EPIC FAIL.UTTERLY DISGUSTING,AMANDA PALMER BOYCOTT FOR LIFE…..DELETING THIS POST MAKES ME LAUGH, AS IT SHOWS YOU CAN’T HANDLE YER OWN MEDICINE THERE KITTEN.
- Amanda Palmer
  
  I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
  Not so sorry,
  Amanda Palmer
  
  PS-Fans stay tuned for some new iTunes exclusive tracks this summer. Only $1.99 per track!
  - sfhjksft3267g
    
    In spite of my obvious fury at your poem, I appreciate your response. I still strongly disagree and I feel that as an artist, yes, you certainly have free reign to self expression, but the troubling part is that AS an artist, why glorify evil? I see this theme echoed in the sentiment of other gifted artists ( and in fairness you are.) They write from the vantage point or the inner dialogue of a serial killer, school shooter, suicide victim, ect. But what does this prove? In what way does this breathe life into tragedy and offer a ray of sunshine? With your poem, you chose for a glaring moment in the media sun (as this has been covered on most of the indie blogs) to dwell on this evil young man who walked into a crowd of men, women and children, smiling and leaving 2 minutes later as their body parts blew away. Think for a minute Amandda Palmer. That 8 year old child…he deserved to be in your poetic spotlight. The man who had his legs blown off and turned ashen death grey…I’m sure he had some serious ruminations in his mind that were of greater significance and pathos to write about. Amanda Palmer, as an artist, you must understand that posting a sympathetic piece ( that IS how most people are taking it) about a man who murdered innocents is not going to be taken well. Certainly, you as an artist are brave and empowered and I have enjoyed the rawness of your shows. But when you concluded your self-vindication with the sentiment that “I am Dhzokar, you are Dhzokar”, no way man. Noooooooooo way. As hurt in life as I have been ( and indeed I have been), I’ve never willingly walked into scores of innocent souls, smiled, left a bomb and walked off to the screams of their torture and the smells of their burning flesh. I simply don’t understand any justification, particularly in light of how FRESH and recent this horrific tragedy has been. I know there is a lot of hateful comments on here directed to you,, and I certainly don’t hate you and appreciate your response. But I believe it is terribly insensitive to insinuate we are all inherent serial murdering terrorists and glorify that in a poem, instead of using your sizable platform to instead memorialize the dead or the wounded. Truly we ARE all capable of doing what Dhzokar did, but Amanda, the last thing I would even think to write to my fans and to the world about would be about his final moments before capture. I’d write about the final moments of that innocent 8 year old boy looking at the runners, smiling, happy and joyful before that evil man blew him to bits.
    Luke
  - sfhjksft3267g
    
    In spite of my obvious fury at your poem, I appreciate your response. I still strongly disagree and I feel that as an artist, yes, you certainly have free reign to self expression, but the troubling part is that AS an artist, why glorify evil? I see this theme echoed in the sentiment of other gifted artists ( and in fairness you are.) They write from the vantage point or the inner dialogue of a serial killer, school shooter, suicide victim, ect. But what does this prove? In what way does this breathe life into tragedy and offer a ray of sunshine? With your poem, you chose for a glaring moment in the media sun (as this has been covered on most of the indie blogs) to dwell on this evil young man who walked into a crowd of men, women and children, smiling and leaving 2 minutes later as their body parts blew away. Think for a minute Amandda Palmer. That 8 year old child…he deserved to be in your poetic spotlight. The man who had his legs blown off and turned ashen death grey…I’m sure he had some serious ruminations in his mind that were of greater significance and pathos to write about. Amanda Palmer, as an artist, you must understand that posting a sympathetic piece ( that IS how most people are taking it) about a man who murdered innocents is not going to be taken well. Certainly, you as an artist are brave and empowered and I have enjoyed the rawness of your shows. But when you concluded your self-vindication with the sentiment that “I am Dhzokar, you are Dhzokar”, no way man. Noooooooooo way. As hurt in life as I have been ( and indeed I have been), I’ve never willingly walked into scores of innocent souls, smiled, left a bomb and walked off to the screams of their torture and the smells of their burning flesh. I simply don’t understand any justification, particularly in light of how FRESH and recent this horrific tragedy has been. I know there is a lot of hateful comments on here directed to you,, and I certainly don’t hate you and appreciate your response. But I believe it is terribly insensitive to insinuate we are all inherent serial murdering terrorists and glorify that in a poem, instead of using your sizable platform to instead memorialize the dead or the wounded. Truly we ARE all capable of doing what Dhzokar did, but Amanda, the last thing I would even think to write to my fans and to the world about would be about his final moments before capture. I’d write about the final moments of that innocent 8 year old boy looking at the runners, smiling, happy and joyful before that evil man blew him to bits.
    Luke
HughJass

why doesn’t it rhyme ?
HughJass

why are you always asking for money?
HughJass

i mean even hobos have to pack it in at the end of the day.
sfhjksft3267g

this site is pathetic how my post conforms to each idiot writing banal and useless things. rigged or whatever, but free speech it is not. your poisonous ideology sucks palmer. signing off.
Crane

I liked some of the lines toward the end, ’cause they were very evocative. But most of this… I don’t get it.
HughJass

poems are like shakspear usually or something right
HughJass

not him, the other guy – i just thought they usualy ryme thats all
HughJass

roses are red,
violets don’t really smell,
i lost both my legs,
now my life is hell

that is a poem, but yours are like :

roses are red,
violets don’t really smell,
i lost both my legs,
and now my life sucks
HughJass

lol people hate this you really fucked up, huh?
GREG

This is trash. Hard to read. Made my head ache. I threw up a little in my mouth. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU DON’T WHAT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE HEAD OF THIS CHILD KILLER. THAT 8 YEAR OLD WON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS TO GROW UP. I have zero empathy for this MURDER! .
http://www.facebook.com/jon.boede Jon Boede

Who knew there were Vogons among us?!?!?
Paco

Why doesn’t this rhyme? 2/10 – poor effort
Syd Saloman

I never bothered to take the time to know who Amanda Palmer was. But this poem confirms that she is everything I believed her to be.
Damien Gevinchy

Wow I really liked this poem, so much so that I thought I would give the author a monetary reward. But then I thought how that would be really inappropriate and tacky, especially because the author probably has more money than any of the visitors to this website, so I didn’t. Also, I didn’t really like this poem, mostly because it doesn’t rhyme.
Burn_the_Witch

Can you re-title this to something more appropriate? Say: A poem for Amanda, or First World White Girl Problems?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Myob/100003186088595 Jeff Myob

Horrible poem if nothing else.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Myob/100003186088595 Jeff Myob

I can’t wait to feel sorry for the brother after he is executed.
Juice (Julia)

I ‘m really confused about this poem… First time I read it I was really confused! The second time I was like oh it’s about human nature and empathy…. And that’s a good thing..right … but then I read the comments and I was again more lost and conflicted about the poem! I still think its about humanity and compassion and not at all really about last week’s events and just about empathy and life… But the comments make me feel guilty feeling this way… Am I reading the poem wrong? Is there a wrong way to read it? .what is this poem trying to express?…. why are people so angry of a small little poem? should i feel hate like these people? Why don’t i feel anything? Why can’t people realize poems don’t have to rhyme? why is there so much hate and anger in the comments and the world.? why can’t people realize last week’s events were only a back drop for a harmless , beautiful poem about life? am I wrong? why don’t I understand this poem? ….So at last I still I’m more confused than before….I need answers. – really confused person
- Coach K
  
  So much angst on you part.
  You must be a very “complex” person……..artistic, right?
http://profiles.google.com/lbrtrhds6 Albert Rhodes

Has anyone touched on the inescapable fact that this poem just happens to suck shit?
- sdfagah
  
  Seriously, regardless of the message the poem is just terrible. Amanda give yourself like 20 years and then start writing again.
Coach K

I am sickened that you would write a poem sympathetic/empathetic towards Dzjokhar.
I hope your career is completely ruined because of this.
I hope Dzjokhar dies.
ralph

You don’t know how to write poetry.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001164662661 Susan Daniels

Amanda–If I were you, I’d paste all these comments and write an amazing erasure poem on it. Thread ii together with all the “It doesn’t even rhyme” comments.
Nitwit Twit

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

DONATING=LOVING

just lol
http://twitter.com/skinpickguy Skin Pick Guy

Hi Amanda, i found you from the Gawker article today, and noticed that one of your lines said “you don’t know how to stop picking your fingers”. So I was wondering whether you’ve heard of dermatillomania or skin picking, a compulsive need to pick your own skin, or bite your nails.

I have a Tumblr called “Diary of a Skin Picker” (at http://diaryofaskinpicker.tumblr.com) where I talk about my struggle with picking, try to raise awareness of this disorder and help others.

I was wondering if you think you have this. Do you find it hard to stop picking? Have you been picking for a long time? I’ve heard about your song “Bad Habit” and that also seems to reference picking or perhaps nail biting too.

Dermatillomania is related to trichotillomania (hair pulling) and there’s a non-profit group called the Trichotillomania Learning Center (http://www.trich.org) that helps patients and provider and also raises awareness.

Anyway, was just wondering about this. I would love to talk to you more about picking or nail biting, at some point. There aren’t many artists or celebrities with derma so I’m very fascinated. Ok, thanks!
Stefan

For a while I was quite frustrated at the inordinate amount of trolling and spamming which tries to drown out any attempt at meaningful discussion.

After a while I realized, however, that these continuous attempts at silencing that which they don’t understand are signs of anger and fear.

And while I’m sorry for the lost opportunity for meaningful dialogue, I can’t help but pity those who are to afraid to ever leave the safety of their anger and their tightly held convictions.
- quoting from AV CLUB
  
  Boston resident Amanda Palmer has somehow found a way to make the city’s marathon bombing about her, with the already-pretty-self-involved artist releasing a poem to mark the event. Addressed to suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, “A Poem For Dzhokhar” talks about the events of last week, but also somehow manages to weave in gripes about iPhone battery life, typos, and not knowing how many Vietnamese spring rolls to order.
  
  Palmer attempts to humanize Tsarnaev (which is admirable, we guess?), but ultimately the poem fails on several levels, mostly because it’s absolutely insipid. For example, consider the following eyeroll-inducing segment:
  
  “you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers.
  
  you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.
  
  you don’t know how many times you can say you’re coming until they just stop believing you.
  
  you don’t know how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is until they hold your head under the water.
  
  you don’t know how many vietnamese soft rolls to order.
  
  you don’t know how convinced your parents were that having children would be, absolutely, without question, the correct thing to do.
  
  you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the bottom of the boat.
  
  you don’t know how to get away from your fucking parents.”
  
  Unsurprisingly, Palmer’s Internet detractors have not responded kindly to the piece, causing the Dresden Dolls singer to put a note on the poem’s page that calls out “hateful commenters” and asks that people “proceed with caution and respect.”
  
  Palmer also has a place to donate to both victims and, somewhat predictably, to her own pocketbook. She notes that “donating = loving.”
- anonymous
  
  I am afraid for what wide acceptance of poetry like this means for the literary community.
TheREALHarvardSquareAhtist

It could be worse. She could have written a song on ukelele instead.
leez34

pretty good but it’s not a poem I don’t get it it doesn’t rhyme why doesn’t it rhyrm
Ed

Wow. Bonus points for including a reference to the “Two Percent”…and I totally think you are on to something when you connect this bombing by a 19 year old to a dissertation draft. Honestly though, one of the worst things about blogs is they encourage people to publish work that hasn’t yet been edited and isn’t ready for prime time.
- Christ Why
  
  Is there something offensive about 2% milk??
  - Ed
    
    Yes Page. I’m lactose intolerant. I feel Amanda is mocking my disability, or calling me a terrorist.
john

music career is shit so now you write this poem for attention…..what a media skank…and who does your eyebrows? michale j fox?
F

So deep…. (NOT)
Im_Rick_James

That is the crappiest “poem” I have ever read. No, seriously. I mean it – the. crappiest. Gonna go read me some Shel Silverstein and try to wash this garbage out of my brain.
Im_Rick_James

Hilariously bad.
Palto

“You don’t know what it’s like

to walk away from a backpack you just placed

with a ticking bomb in it

next to a child

while you smirk.”

Oh wait he does know!
Russell Davis

http://www.morningstormbooks.com/2013/04/another-poem-for-dzhokar.html
Tricia

What I got from this was…….he doesn’t know how much he took for granted until it was taken
- Coach K
  
  Idiot.
  He took it from himself because he is a dumbass who killed an 8 year old kid!
  I hope he dies.
Caroline

Amanda, I’ve got a great idea! How about you do another kickstarter and raise another $1.2 million dollars so you can continue writing such ~beautiful~ prose! And then go on tour and tell people that you need volunteers for your shows because you simply can’t afford the expenses! OH ALSO, how about acting out another rape scene with Margaret Cho at your shows? Not sure how that will relate to Boston, but hey, ~*~*~*~*~*~*it’s art!*~*~*~*~*~*~
- Christ Why
  
  How do you think she raised that money?? Because people WANT to support her. Why were people so willing to play with her on stage FOR FREE?? Those musicians weren’t demanding money, they were happy to be a part of something bigger than themselves. Everyone else was demanding for them to be paid, I’m pretty sure the musicians themselves couldn’t have cared less. I would gladly, in a heart beat, perform for free with Amanda Palmer. Because she touches us. She connects with us. Amanda Palmer has inspired me time and time again and continues to. If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Don’t watch. Don’t pay attention to it. But that $1.2 million says more than you ever could about the effect that Amanda has on her fans, and the effect her fans have on her.
Im_Rick_James

There once was a guy named Dzokhar
Ran over his bro with a car
Who with him was plotting
But now he is rotting
The fitting-est ending by far
http://twitter.com/DrollNDry Tommy Joe

Reminds me of creative writing workshops in college: A pierced and tattooed student-in-perpetuity, fresh from changing her major at the registrar, summons the skunky muse to write a poem that gives full-throated voice to the masturbatory act of veiling the artist’s consuming need for attention in the cheap folds of “outrageous subject matter.” The end result, then and now, is substandard dross that calls attention not to the topic in question, but rather to the insecurities of the author.

In other words: Cute poem. But you do know this isn’t about you, right?
http://twitter.com/LittleMonstrosi sacredmagyck

thank you, amanda. thank you for seeing the humanity in everyone. it’s a beautiful trait.
- bill lignos
  
  scumbags like u
MissLyd

Amanda,

I was ready to be upset with this poem. For whatever reason I had it in my head that when we give killers names we give them power. And I still believe that to a certain extent. But what you have done with your poetry is tell me a little more about myself and about how humanity is responding to this sad and frightening event.

Yes, people are upset because you are projecting your emotions on to him… and yes, people are groaning that your poetry doesn’t rhyme or isn’t conventional, but you are responding to a situation as an artist and more importantly as a human. I thank you for your thoughts and emotions and for making me feel differently about this issue than I did before.

I don’t know if I agree with the fact that you titled the poem after that boy, but it does not hurt me. It does not make the horrors those marathoners and their families and friends have endured less real or less important. And it has altered how I look at the situation.

Lydia

P.S. If nothing else, it’s pretty cool that you allow this impassioned discussion happen, regards of how downright hateful some people are being. It saddens me that people feel compelled to say such cruel things about a poem no one was forcing them to read.
- Coach K
  
  Lydia,
  You feel bad for the Steubenville rapists too, don’t you?
  - http://www.facebook.com/eve.condon Eve Wartenberg Condon
    
    that is incredibly unfair. Argue against her points, but if you immediately leap to ad hominem attacks you are either typing before you think or you don’t have an argument. If you think anyone who reads this blog feels sympathy for rapists, you are woefully ill-informed.
- Coach K
  
  Nothing “pretty cool” about empathy for a cold blooded killer who murdered a child.
nothappy

You suck! The Dresden Dolls were great before you ruined them with your rants!! Now shut up and hurry back into obscurity where you belong you no talent hag!
Stephen

I would like a personal response to this amanda if you please, I am sure you are getting your attention pulled in a multitude of directions but I believe this is a fair pertinent question. Why do you feel he is like you? Do you understand the workings of his mind? Are you assuming that his mind works in the way that yours does? Ever read Wittgenstein’s beetle in a box scenario? Stop making this humans are humans claim because not only is it disingenuous to our complexity but it is so shallow as to debase your point, and make you look egocentric, that we should all be slow to judge. (<) I guess in the end that's a way of trying to boil down your point.
Dink

Chill out, guys…This was a pretty good effort for a high school sophomore.
bigstone

That is the beauty of the blog. It’s her mind and her artistic view. Which I truly support. When we start to censor art we have taken a step into the world of suppression.
Pat

Strange how the “concerns” and thoughts of a Chechen teenage terrorist sound so much like those of privileged, well-off, tone-deaf white American woman who mistakes contrarianism for empathy, and who wants people to perceive her as “artsy” and “deep.” Might as well have titled this piece “Look! Look At Me, and How Much Better I Am Than All of You For My Moral Peacocking!”
Gina Dixon Roemer

Hmmm… the first of this “artist’s” poetry I’ve read. It could have been a thought-provoking piece rather than these lines… few of which are relevant or even mildly interesting. Sad.
CelineR

Dear Amanda Palmer,
Hello! Tell me if I’m wrong, but I read the piece as an association between the failings of this man as a functional member of society on the whole, with his failings throughout the manhunt. I did not interpret that your poem envoked sympathy for the bomber, or neglect for the victims of this tragedy. Many of the comments–some intensely disrespectful to you not solely as an artist, but also as a human being–have jumped to conclusions, possibly because the title might have mislead some to believe that it was in solidarity with this individual, as opposed to being about him.

Thank you,
Celine
- anonymous
  
  I think maybe it’s more of a collage of narcissism exploiting a controversial figure/event in an attempt to appear thoughtful.
  - CelineR
    
    I can’t say that I agree with you. Art is about creating a discussion, and sometimes that art is timely–especially if it is a flash poem in which the poet expresses immediate feelings. Many poems, and many other pieces of art, are time relevant.
AmandaSucks

You are one UGLY bitch . You look like a f**king Clown with those eyebrows and you sound like one with this meaningless dribble . I got one thing to say to you ….14:59 and counting down a**hole.
Dink

Amanda has always catered him image to meet the serial-killer idolizing “hot topic crowd and this is just more of that.
Beantown

“you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.”

There are a lot of people who can’t look down at their legs again thanks to the boy you feel so much empathy with
- http://www.facebook.com/dazeconfused Jason Lee
  
  Exactly. She clearly needs therapy.
Zeddy

Yeah, because when you call Amanda nasty names that makes you better people. If you don’t like the poem then at least explain why in a composed and decent way. It’s true Amanda, We Are The Media….although sometimes it’s more like We Are The Haters (in terms of anonymous people on the internet leaving nasty comments on blogs/twitter/facebook)
amanda palmer

I am sorry to all those offended. Upon looking back, my poem does indeed appear to be garbage-AP
- Amanda Palmer
  
  NOT ME!!!
amanda palmer

Why can’t I do anything right?
- Ed
  
  Okay, you aren’t a 14 year old boy. Quit the sarcasm.. Not all criticism comes from haters, not everyone who has issues with something you do is jealous. The fact you are immensely talented in some arenas does not mean *EVERYTHING* that comes from your ass is solid gold. *LISTEN* to some of the criticisms. Try to actually understand what others are feeling.
amanda palmer

I dunno what’s worse, my music or my poetry…What do you guys think?
- Ed
  
  Your poetry. I *LIKE* your music. I’m sure you spend many, many hours on a piece, getting it just right. I suspect you did not do that with this particular poem.
http://www.facebook.com/frank.orena Frank Orena

Your ego is amazing. How selfish can one woman be? No thought at all for the victims, just your own petty ego. Some people help, some heal and some, like Amanda Palmer, only hurt others.
- Amanda Palmer
  
  whoops, my bad!!!
http://twitter.com/kicnalaway Nicolette Kalaway☯

For all of you showing pitty for Dzjokhar, shame on you.. he came to the United States and killed innocent people. Fuck all of you scumbags who actually are fending for that pathetic waste of life.
Amanda Palmer

Whatever you guys say, I know I’m a true fartist!
- bill lignos
  
  yeah u are a fartist alright. u look like an asshole with that hair and eyebrows
Jimmy “Deth” Delaney

this poem is balls
- Amanda Palmer
  
  Thanks you!!! I love balls!
  - bill lignos
    
    Ureally are not not funny Ananda, your lame.why Dont u move to Chechnya
  - NotThePalmer-eatcheese
    
    So, I wonder how long it’ll take people to figure out that if your name is not the highlighted red that Amanda Palmer’s usually is when she’s replying, you’re someone created it for kicks
Shoot me Now.

This Country is doomed. Doomed.
Lana Nachó

This is absolutely disgusting. I 100% agree with Greg Gutfeld.
jydvsn

Amanda, I think you are or at least were a great poet. What you wrote is absolute garbage regardless of motive. Admit it was a ‘bad day’.
Frank Jones

The reality is;…….. YOU DON’T KNOW how it feel’s to have shrapnel pierce your skin! YOU DON’T KNOW what it means to have your limbs blown away from your body YOU DON’T KNOW what it means to have someone die in front of your eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU REALLY DON’T KNOW! STOP TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW!
sick and tired

Amanda Palmer– a has-been musician turned rich poseur, using a tragedy to turn the spotlight back on what she loves the most– herself. I used to be a fan, but her unwillingness to pay others for their art shows that she’s just as exploitative of others as the nastiest corporate shark. Amanda, I hope you can take the time to do some HONEST self-examination. (A challenge, I know.) Or just embrace who you really are, take Neil’s money, and spend your afternoons at Nordstroms with other wives of the bourgeois.
nickelback42069

it sucks
unbelievable

Where’s the poem for the Newtown shooter, or the Aurora shooter or any of the other deranged morons that go around hurting other, innocent people for no reason?
- wiccabasket
  
  Amanda is from Boston. Maybe that had something to do with it?
LottaLuLu

I just threw up in my mouth. Disgusting “poem”!
anonymous

this sucks. how did I get here? oh yeah… opportunistic talentless hack exploiting murderous attack.
- bill lignos
  
  same here. that Hag. those eyebrows look like the shit stains in my undies. i wouldn’t do her with dzhokars genitalia
Pandaman

http://gawker.com/amanda-palmers-a-poem-for-dzhokhar-is-the-worst-poem-476820444
- Coach K
  
  That is one ugly dude
http://www.facebook.com/michael.harper.7509 Michael Harper

I can’t mourn for the Tsarnaev brothers, not the way I do for the folk they killed, but I do weep for the boys they once were, and wonder what happened to turn Tamerlan into a murderer and why Dzohkhar went along with this bloody insanity. We’ll probably never know the whole story. I love you, Amanda. Thanks.
Simeon Peebler

I appreciated reading this because it challenged me to think about point of view. Having had some experience as a runner (although not marathons), I know what it’s like heading toward a finish line. That influenced my own art (and I wrote this song about it — I wasn’t there at the finish line, but I narrate the song as if I had been — https://soundcloud.com/simeonpeebler/brave-in-boston), but the who/what/when/why human beings end up becoming murderers is a very challenging and uncomfortable mountain to climb. If we want to truly follow the path described by the youngest victim in this tragic bombing, and really embrace “no more hurting people”, I think we have to find a way to reach other lost souls who aim absolute rage toward others. It is our biggest challenge to show them as much love and compassion as we can. Through art we can find the courage to look into these darkest of corners.
- Coach K
  
  Deep.
  Back to reality, you cannot reason with Muslims who have been radicalized like this loser was.
fanofpeace

Art! So much hatred in the world already and people are only adding hatred by attacking a woman who uses art as her means of expression?! Whether you like the poem or not is great to express because that’s what this is about, but to degrade someone for their expressing themselves is ridiculous.
- Coach K
  
  Her views are empathetic towards someone who is a cold blooded killer of an 8 year old boy and 4 other innocent people.
http://twitter.com/chemilyx Charlotte Murray

It astounds me how many people on here think everything is black and white, and don’t pay attention to the infinite grey that exists in between. Amanda is a genius in this respect – she explores the grey area and is not afraid. The grey area is what it is to be human.
- Coach K
  
  Not a lot of grey area when it comes to killing an 8 year old boy
- alskdfadfagjoia
  
  its this kind of tripe that we are all outraged with … no one actually conforms to the mold you are setting and you assume such an air of superiority like we all just dont understand life the way that you, o great one, do … faux intellectual garbage and verbal diarrhea with no point and no basis other than to exalt those people you like and degrade those you dont … what do you know about being human? … you only truly know about being you and most of us suck at that too so just kindly do us all a favor and kindly fuck off back to your glass house
- oldfreak
  
  Amanda is NOT a genius, honey. On no planet. In no universe. NO NO NO.
Michael of the Green

Yes, it’s a terrible poem. Yes, it oozes with arrogance. Yes, in any sophomore poetry class, it would get an “F” for sheer lack of artistry. Yes, I’ve read countless just like it by adolescent, self-important douchebags, Yes, she should immediately stop calling herself a writer, reversible pending a show of a little more respect for the craft. Yes, she should donate any moneys she gets from this endeavor to some foundation that might prevent this kind of dreck from cluttering our internets in the future. Yes, this proves (despite the pretension of the poem) that her capacity for real empathy for this individual lies no farther than her linty navel. Yes, psychotherapy might help in this regard. Yes, she’s probably so lacking in humility (given the tenor of her rebuttals) that her understanding the richness and depth of human yearning will never happen.

But if I fucking read one more comment that claims that poems must rhyme (and I’ve got to cling to the possibility that most of those comments are Amanda’s own sock puppets), the blood vessels in my eyeballs might just rupture, and I, too, might lose my own capacity for empathy. Yes, this is a “poem” just as a high school student doodling hearts and unicorns in her margins is making “art”. But no, you don’t know your way out of a creative paper bag. And no, you don’t know how little you understand about the workings of dzhokhar’s heart.
- wiccabasket
  
  I disagree with a lot of that, but your last paragraph made me snort coffee out of my nose.
  
  POETRY DOES NOT HAVE TO RHYME.
  
  POETRY DOES NOT HAVE TO RHYME.
  
  POETRY DOES NOT HAVE TO RHYME.
  
  POETRY does NOT
  have to rhyme.
  
  (Do you think they’ve got it yet?)
  .
- Bart
  
  Wait, why doesn’t this poem rhyme?
- Bart
  
  A poem must rhyme
- Donna
  
  Well said, sir. Best comment of them all.
  - oldfreak
    
    agreed. very articulate. you know, I hadn’t thought about it, but it sounds like Amanda Palmer to sock puppet the idiotic comments about the poem not rhyming as a distraction.
- Amanda’s Sock Puppet
  
  Haha, you’re so mean. But your comment was fun to read. The second paragraph caught me off guard and made me laugh. Poems don’t have to rhyme? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everyone who tries to create “art” gets shit, even the ones who are treasured today. Its the way it has always been and will always be.
broken

Poetry can be analyzed in many different ways. Art is subjective. We each get something different out of it. If one person hated it, and another loved it, that’s their prerogative. I, personally, did not like this poem as a piece of art (although I do love other of Amanda’s works). However, I do appreciate that it (as a statement piece) has made people talk, think, and argue about the relevancy, significance, and appropriateness of the poem. It is important for us not to forget how we feel at this moment: all the outrage, all the sadness, all the pain – it’s something the victims will have to carry with them the rest of their lives. To that ends, I feel as though the poem as accomplished so much. It has forced us to think about and relive the terrible events of this past week, and above all to remember what is truly important throughout it all.
http://www.facebook.com/gary.knode Gary Knode

What rhymes with Idiot.
E.J. Pettinger

The next time you feel like writing a poem – stop yourself – and read one instead. YOU DON’T KNOW HOW TO WRITE POEMS.
kt

Woah woah woah, the hatin’ reactions remind me of what John Green said at the end of the Hitler and Sex video:

“..this is yet another example of Hitler being tragically ordinary… All the essentializing and sensationalizing of these stories is designed to make us feel comfortable, to make US feel like we aren’t like THOSE people. We want to feel fundamentally different from the people who participate in genocide, but of course that’s not the truth.. The truth, whether tv executives want to accept it or not, resists simplicity.”

Also, it’s very easy to hate on people making things when you are making nothing, and on the internet.
feenix

you don’t know how to write a poem

you don’t know how much that sucked
you don’t know anything about how that kid feels
you don’t know how you’ve have made others feel with this bs
you don’t know how to do anything but what will get you the most attention
you don’t know the way to Heaven
you don’t know the way to Heaven
you don’t know the way to Heaven
rose25

Ummm I didn’t think it was that bad. I kinda liked it. Everyone should just calm the fuck down and stop being so critical of each other (and when I say everyone, I mean everyone in the world). Rock on Amanda! Thank you for being fearless with your art. Also, I can’t wait to see you at Pridefest.
- Coach K
  
  You kinda liked a poem that showed empathy towards a terrorist who attacked our nation?
  Says tons about you as a person.
  - wiccabasket
    
    Would you consider him a terrorist if he was a white bread born-in-the-USA American. Or would you have considered him merely mentally ill?
    
    I can feel empathy for those who ran with the IRA. If I can do that, AND feel empathy for the town of Boston who – amongst other east coast towns and cities in America – actively funded those terrorist attacks, then yes. I can show empathy towards a 19 year old boy who committed a heinous crime that he must live with for the rest of his life.
    
    Because I am better than them. I can pity, I can mourn and I can show mercy. Justice has to be done – it MUST be done, but death is not justice. It is revenge
    - Coach K
      
      death is revenge. let’s get some.
      - wiccabasket
        
        But that makes you like them. It makes you a murderer.
      - Coach K
        
        Wrong.
        It is called serving the consequence for the crime that was committed.
        Dzohkar will be tried, then killed.
        As it should be.
      - wiccabasket
        
        Then you are no better than the terrorists you claim to despise. You both work from a position of hate and fear.
        
        I am very glad that I live in a country where such things are outlawed.
      - Coach K
        
        Wrong. I am against killing innocent people.
        Dzokhar is not.
        Dzokhar committed crimes.
        Dzokhar is not an innocent person.
        He deserves no empathy/sympathy.
        He deserves death as punishment for his criminal acts.
      - wiccabasket
        
        Two sides of the same coin. What about the criminal acts of your country? Of my country? I do not wish death on my fellow man, I cannot wish death on him or her for I am not a murderer and I will not kill someone in cold blood, innocent or not. My country committed some evil acts on my behalf, and I have to live with the legacy of that. So do you.
        
        Killing him makes him a martyr. It will radicalise thousands more young men and women. It will perpetuate this pain. Your approach isn’t actually solving anything, is it? It just makes you feel a little bit better. That’s not what justice is.
      - Coach K
        
        You are being too cute by half on your argument.
        Timothy McVeigh was an American.
        After he blew up the building in Oklahoma he was executed. As it should have been.
        Dozkhar committed a crime, like McVeigh did. He too, will be executed. As it should be.
        McVeigh/Dozkhar are terrorists/criminals. Neither were fighting for their “country”
        Get real.
      - wiccabasket
        
        We abolished the death penalty a long time ago. Quite right too.
        
        People should live with the crimes they commit. They should be faced with them every single day of their lives. They should face them in their sleep, in their every waking moment.
        
        Death is an instant release. There’s no such place as hell. There is no afterlife. If you want justice, you should want them to face what they have done – not punish their (innocent) families.
      - asdlfkjalsgjAEWHFNA
        
        hahaha this is great … so after all this “death penalty is wrong” shit it (also before you respond, I dont believe in the death penalty but for different reasons) comes down to the people who seem so empathetic and emotionally connected wanting the guy to get a worse sentence than death? well then you take the cake for convoluted hypocrisy
      - wiccabasket
        
        No hypocrisy here. I believe in justice.Justice is making people face up to their crime. People cannot do that when they are dead, they must do so whilst they are alive.
        
        I believe the death penalty is wrong for many different reasons. A couple of those reasons are that it makes a murderer of us all and it prevents justice from actually being done. I’m not sure how that makes me a hypocrite.
      - charlesmountain
        
        “Indeed, under careful scrutiny, liberalism’s distortions of the normal
        ability to reason can only be understood as the product of
        psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting,
        behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its
        relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders
        of the psyche. The modern liberal mind, its distorted perceptions and
        its destructive agenda, are the product of disturbed personalities.”
        -Unknown
      - wiccabasket
        
        It’s a quote from Lyle H Rossiter actually. He’s a quack. Do your homework
      - charlesmountain
        
        Your positon is based on arrogance and emotion…
        
        Facts don’t play into your ideology…
        
        “What is modern liberalism but an irrational aversion to Judeo-Christian
        Western virtue. There can be no other explanation. Modern liberalism is
        the foulest amalgamation of anti-Anglo bigotry, self-loathing
        nihilistic defeatism and solipsism. Modern liberalism is a cerebral Cold
        War of sick victim fantasy projections and the ambitious profitability
        of perceived indiscretions no matter how ancient or delusional. Modern
        liberalism is fatalistic. Modern liberalism is self-destructive. Modern
        liberalism is the vilest worldview ever conceived.”
        -David Mamet
      - wiccabasket
        
        Yay! Conservatives have come to play. Sweetie, I’ve made people like you run crying for a moderator before I’ve even started picking holes in your (usually pretty shoddy) arguments.
        
        It’s ok for you to disagree with me, but could you try disagreeing with your own words instead of copying something you read on a blog once?
      - charlesmountain
        
        You in a nutshell Wicca…
        
        “Indeed, under careful scrutiny, liberalism’s distortions of the normal
        ability to reason can only be understood as the product of
        psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting,
        behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its
        relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders
        of the psyche. The modern liberal mind, its distorted perceptions and
        its destructive agenda, are the product of disturbed personalities.”
        -Unknown
      - wiccabasket
        
        You’re quoting a quack. Have some dignity and try writing yourself.
      - charlesmountain
        
        Trust me on this…your feigned outrage and compassion is transparent…We can all see your ideology showing through…
    - charlesmountain
      
      A terrorist is a terrorist…skin color nor place of birth has nothing to do with it unless it’s your ideology of looking at the world through the prism of victim and oppressor talking…
      - wiccabasket
        
        So you can write your own thoughts without copying and pasting
        
        I’m not so sure that is my ideology. I see human beings and I see patterns and fair enough, I can see how we are both equally the ‘victim’ and the ‘oppressor’ but I think I’d probably label them differently (aggressor and the victim might be a better way of putting it maybe?)
        
        Those organisations against which we fight (Al Qaeda and its numerous factions) have caused untold harm to our countries and to others. They made us afraid. They made many of us hate and mistrust a peaceful religion because of a minority of extremists. They harmed us, and our families and our friends and they made you feel fear in a way the USA has never felt before.
        
        On the other hand I can see why people see the USA and their allies as an aggressor. We’ve behaved badly. We’ve done terrible things to entire countries because of a terrorist organisation. We’ve ignored those who needed our help in our endless thirst for oil.
        
        When the IRA was carrying out attacks on mainland Britain, a lot of their funding came from the USA. People held collections for ‘the cause’. The IRA bombed the crap out of us. I lived with that fear nearly my entire life. I also lived with the conflict of knowing that the IRA started out as a legitimate attempt to fight against our shameful actions in Ireland – that we were not being taught the reasons for the troubles in school. We were taught to believe that the IRA were monsters who hated the UK, hated England and that they had always been monsters and we were innocent victims of madmen who just wanted to hurt us. Nobody explained the UDF or what was actually going on in our name.
        
        Our government did shameful things in our name in the fight against terrorism. The IRA did shameful things in the fight against our actions. Nobody was right. Everybody suffered.
        
        I think what I am trying to say is that sometimes empathy is the only way forward. Jaw jaw, not war war.
Coach K

From Washington Post website: According to the FBI, one of the brothers later told the driver of a vehicle
they carjacked, “Did you hear about the Boston explosion? I did that.”

That Amanda is who you are empathizing with!
Live with that.
- wilder125
  
  Of course the question of the sneeze, or last 2 seconds. Is how many realize that Amanda and Neil were driving out of town because the train they were taking to NY aka “You don’t know the way to New York” was part of the lockdown. I do believe they had to figure out the directions and where to maybe catch a train eventually far enough down the road.
Zeddy

People are seriously verbally attacking other people for writing a fucking poem? what the…, if you negative folk out here spent as much time doing good in the world instead of bitching at a blog post then perhaps the world would be a better place….negativity breeds negativity after all! Don’t any of you have something better to be doing?
- aconcernedcitizen
  
  WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE FOR THEN DO GOODER … GET BACK UP ON YOUR HIGH HORSE AND RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET TO FEED SOME ORPHANS OR SOMETHING … fucking hypocrite
  - Zeddy
    
    Oh believe me I’m not pretending to have any values, beliefs or principles. I don’t see how I’m being a hypocrite……I’m not being nasty to anyone by asking if its really necessary to insult people on an on-line blog.
Jennifer

Jeez, enough out of you already, Zeddy.
- Zeddy
  
  Something I said ring true?
http://www.facebook.com/people/ProphetKevin-Ives/1644274188 ProphetKevin Ives

A poem for Amanda Palmer
You don’t know how to pet a fat cat.
You don’t know how to jump out of a glass window.
You don’t know how to skin a rabbit.
You don’t know how to write a poem.
You don’t know how to write a poem.
You don’t know how to write a poem.
- charlesmountain
  
  What up with the Gramsci profile pic?
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/ProphetKevin-Ives/1644274188 ProphetKevin Ives
    
    I was reading on wikipedia, and I saw the word “Neo-Gramscianism,” which sounded like something only an super egghead would describe themselves as. Then I .learned he made up the word hegemony, which is a fun word.
Ay

What does it matter if you people do or don’t like the poem? She didn’t write it for you, I’m sure. She wrote it for herself. She had an emotion and she expressed it in the way she knows best, the written word.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Conlan/100001712750537 Mark Conlan

I didn’t know anything about Amanda Palmer or her music until I saw this linked to on the Fox News Web site. Saying Dzjokhar and Tamerlan are/were monsters gets us nowhere. Though I’m not saying Amanda Palmer is a writer on Shakespeare’s level it seems to me that she’s doing the same thing Shakespeare sought to do in “Macbeth” — to probe the life of a man who started out basically decent and worked himself up to do evil things. I don’t agree with the criticisms of Palmer for trying to get into Dsjokhar’s head — that’s what artists do, The real world doesn’t consist of heroes and villains, but of men and women who make choices and do things that help or hurt other people, and the Boston Marathon attack offers plenty of evidence of both. The poem seems to me to be the work of someone who tried to work out her own response to the attack by imagining herself in the persona of the surviving attacker and trying, through that projection, to understand why he did what he’s accused of doing. Palmer’s critics fundamentally misunderstand the nature of art; ironically, they’re taking the same position as Hitler’s and Stalin’s governments did with their country’s artists, demanding that they use their powers to portray only the good things about their societies, only the things the authorities wanted them to promote. A true artist rebels against facile explanations, even of such seemingly inexplicable events as this attack, and probes deeply into the far reaches of human nature. Amanda Palmer deserves congratulations and thanks.
- marni
  
  Mark – My problem with what was posted is not that she “tried to get into the head” of someone who allegedly committed an atrocity, but that what was produced had nothing to do with him and everything to do with her. Publishing drivel about iPhones and dissertations and Vietnamese spring rolls and relating it to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is perverse. This so-called “poem” is merely a projection, a superficial attempt to write something which will bring her attention. Her behavior is appalling at a time when so many of us are still healing from this tragedy.
greenguy

I think people are misreading this poem horribly. It’s not showing sympathy for the bomber. It’s showing how stupid and ignorant the bomber is. The guy is clueless about what he caused, as clueless as he was about the getaway. He apparently backed over his own brother in the getaway car — “you don’t know how to adjust the rearview mirror”. And he doesn’t know that his only hope for escape was to flee to New York — “you don’t know the way to new york.” This isn’t a sympathetic poem. It’s an indictment!!!
- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  It’s not a poem at all, as there is no rhyme scheme. Poetry requires rhymes, otherwise it is prose.
http://twitter.com/red_mercer LINCOLN DICKWIELDER

Doesn’t rhyme, though
Amanda Palmer

I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
Not so sorry,
Amanda Palmer

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- http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
  
  I was really hoping for an answer to the rhyme question. Disappointed.
  - Amanda Palmer
    
    Poems don’t have to rhyme, stupid. Read some Silvia Plath sometime!
    - http://twitter.com/nelikli neilk
      
      I can hardly take your word for it, given the circumstances.
- Lana Nachó
  
  So we are terrorists, who enjoy the fact that we killed and ruined the lives of many? Oh ok, that makes SO much sense.
U Suck

HAHAHAHAHA
nicole

seriously guys, stop with the bullshit. poetry is poetry, even if your tiny little minds only accept poems with strict metric. this is a really good poem, and it manages to make current issues so much more relatable than they would be if you restricted yourself to the news. it makes EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US more humanized. and the bullshit comments about how amanda is ‘oh-so narcissistic and self-centered’ aren’t really deterring anyone. so grow up, and if you didn’t like the poem just close the tab and do something else with your life. i think everyone would appreciate it.
- asdflakjs
  
  and if you dont like these peoples responses to your god then YOU SHUT YOUR EYES and you will be the first hipsterdouchebag to take their own advice
Shelby

Wait, why doesn’t it rhyme?
- Palmerfan95
  
  u have to look inside urself to find the rhyme. it is in us all. the poem isnt about rhyming. its about you and me and regular ppl.
@jdseelye

Why doesnt this rhyme
Kyle

This was really thought provoking and interesting writing. My problem with it is should it really be called a poem? I didn’t really see any rhyming at all in this piece
poetry man

wait, it says its a poem, but it doesnt rhyme??? i dont get it
bigtitties

why don’t it rhyme?
Brennub

I think people are missing the point of this. This reminds me of a gif set I saw on tumblr once. I’m not sure what it was from, but it depicted Hitler… I dunno. Just being a normal dude, like sort of flirting with some lady. Saying Hitler was a terrible, messed up person doesn’t even begin to describe him. I mean…. who doesn’t find Hitler synonymous with the word monster? But this gif set made me pause a minute and go:

Oh. Right he was just a person too. He was human. That doesn’t mean he deserves sympathy. But he was a person just like me.

This poem did that too. Dzjokhar may be a really screwed up, awful human being for what he did…. but he is just a person. Does that mean he deserves sympathy or empathy or whatever? Not necessarily, and I’m pretty sure that is not what Amanda is trying to say. I think this poem is simply exploring the fact that he is just a person like all of us. That Dzjokhar didn’t do this because he is a monster or something, but that he’s a human being who had some motive for his actions no matter how screwed up they might be. This poem also explores what those motives could be.

It isn’t justifying a terrorist and I really don’t know how someone could think that….. but I guess that is both the beauty and downfall of art. People will interpret it as they will.

Oh. And by the way, Amanda. I really liked this.
- The Real Hitler Tho
  
  link to the gif set?
  - Brennub
    
    http://isagrimorie.tumblr.com/post/47357315593/ariamaculata-tardis-mind-palace
    
    Here you go!
Luridtoons

Why doesn’t it rhyme? I thought it was a poem
pinniped finfoot

I am a poet and I have published my work in a number of literary journals at my college and on my blog. So I am wondering, Why doesn’t this poem rhyme? After the line “you don’t know how things could change so incredibly fast.” She could have written “you don’t know that if you needed help you could have asked”? Why didn’t she make it rhyme like that?
Goetta Longface

Three. He should order three Vietnamese rolls.
Also, I would like to know why this poem doesn’t rhyme.
http://twitter.com/benwa_balls Benjamin Thompson

As much as I would like to comment on the content of this piece and its significance, or insignificance regarding the tragedy in Boston and the probability that the sole purpose of this piece’s existence is to use sensationalism to self promote a mediocre talent at the expense of grieving victims, I can’t get past the fact that it doesn’t rhyme.
turdghoul69

why did you write a poem about terrorist?
Bart

“you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the bottom of the boat” this line. god awful.
Luridtoons

Who is Amanda palmer and why doesn’t this rhyme William Shakespeare is rolling over in his frave
http://twitter.com/alsv_ alsv_

I thought this was pretty cool, but why doesn’t it rhyme like other poems?
John Denver

Why doesnt it rhyme? It seems more like a disjointed weird rant than a poem. I dont even understand what its supposed to be about, but at least most poems rhyme.
Conch

There is this thing that’s like touching except you don’t touch

Back in the day it just went without saying at all

All the world’s history gradually dying of shock

There is thing that’s like talking except you don’t talk

You sing

You sing

Sing for the bartender sing for the janitor sing

Sing for the cameras sing for the animals sing

Sing for the children shooting the children sing

Sing for the teachers who told you that you couldn’t sing

Just sing

There is thing keeping everyone’s lungs and lips locked

It is called fear and it’s seeing a great renaissance

After the show you can not sing wherever you want

But for now lets all pretend that we’re gonna get bombed

So sing
Amanda Palmer

I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
Not so sorry,
Amanda Palmer

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- Sandy
  
  You’re not fooling anyone. Folks are already mad enough at AFP, what exactly do you hope to accomplish by writing a fake artists statement in her name?
  - Amanda Palmer
    
    That was an OFICIAL ARTIST STATMENT by myself, Amanda Felindez Palmer. Please read closely next time.
    - Sandy
      
      Oh boy, you sure fooled me, sock puppet Amanda Palmer. So convincing.
turdghoul69

next you’ll be arguing the “coin operated boy” is NOT about a robot. get real lady jeez
- Amanda Palmer
  
  Subtext…duh…read some silvia plathe
amanda palmer

why doesn’t your poem rhyme?
Lisa

I liked this.

It made me sad.
It made me think of all the things we don’t know.
Or won’t know.
Put down the torches pitchforks.
It’s not a bomb.
It’s poetry.
- Lisa
  
  Sorry.
  That should have been “Put down the torches and pitchforks”.
  Everybody needs an editor.
- Benjamin Harris
  
  Annika, this is glassy-eyed Stockholm Syndrom, pure and simple.
@donkeyterror

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuos9YvAcsY
@donkeyterror

Amanda,

you don’t know how to explain yourself.

-DT
@donkeyterror

its just seems like
you don’t know how to make something, but the instructions are on the internet.
Anonymous

Regardless of what this is supposed to mean or whatever point it is intended to make it’s simply an awful poem. I don’t understand how you can have read it after you finished writing and thought “yeah, this is good.” Also you’re not from lower class Boston. You’re from Lexington; one of it’s richest suburbs.
Samantha

The mistake you’ve made, Ms. Palmer, is not in stringing together words in commentary about a chaotic and violent youth — the mistake you’ve made is in choosing your method of delivery. Words are the most easily distorted. You can throw paint at a canvas and everyone can have differing opinions on what it means — but when you use your words, you make it harder on people who think a certain way. There are far fewer people that can extrapolate the meaning of thoughts when they are given something so definite. Do I think it’s a terrible thing to humanize someone who’s killed people? Actually, no. I think it’s vastly more important to do so– so we don’t forget that they are human. But if you have a podium from which to pronounce it from — do it in a way that people likely to see it will understand. You can’t throw a riddle into the mix when people are already on edge playing a dangerous game.
@donkeyterror

writing this poem, its almost as if
you don’t know how you walked into this trap so obliviously.
Chadwick

I am not in the least bit offended by the content or perceived content in this writing. It could be called a poem praising Dzokhar and I couldn’t give two shits. What really offends me is that it is not a poem at all. None of it rhymes.
conch

There is thing keeping everyone’s lungs and lips locked
It is called fear and it’s seeing a great renaissance
After the show you can not sing wherever you want
Amanda Palmer

I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
Not so sorry,
Amanda Palmer

PS-Fans stay tuned for some new iTunes exclusive tracks this summer. Only $1.99 per track!
- JimGoad
  
  “I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar.”
  
  No, I am Jim. You are stupid.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1558645006 Lori McLeod Wilke

Krystle Campbell; Martin Richard, 8; and Lu Lingzi – Deceased. Denise and Jane Richard – family of Martin; Jeff Bauman double amputee; Brittany Lorring; brothers who have each lost a leg….where is your “poem” for them?
SpiritOf77

Amanda,

You don’t know that your narcissistic projections make you sound like a POS.

You don’t know that Dzhokhar didn’t actually “let that guy go” because he was passed out in the boat and unaware that he had been found until the police had him surrounded. If he had been awake he most likely would have added another innocent person to the list of dead.

You don’t know that Dzhokhar partied with his fellow college students while people were left to mourn the loss of loved ones and other people had limbs removed forever changing their way of life and preventing them from doing the everyday things that all of us take for granted.

You don’t know that if this kid was overweight, not so “innocent” looking and resembled *Khalid Shaikh Mohammed* then you wouldn’t have written such horrible poem or even cared to make the effort.

You don’t know that the fact that you took the time to project your thoughts onto a murderer instead of empathizing with Mr. Richard who lost a son and will have to take care of a disabled wife shows that you share much of the hatred and disdain toward society that this terrorist has.

You don’t know that if you married into his family you would have to cover your head and you wouldn’t be allowed to express yourself through music or poetry.

*Khalid Shaikh Mohammed resembles Ron Jeremy*

Since I can’t say it better myself…

“Sweet and Tender Hooligan”

He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he said that he’d never, never do it again
And of course he won’t (oh, not until the next time)

He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
And he swore that he’ll never, never do it again
And of course he won’t (oh, not until the next time)

Poor old man
He had an “accident” with a three-bar fire
But that’s OK
Because he wasn’t very happy anyway
Poor woman
Strangled in her very own bed as she read
But that’s OK
Because she was old and she would have died anyway
DON’T BLAME

The sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
Because he’ll never, never, never, never, never, never do it again
(not until the next time)

Jury, you’ve heard every word
So before you decide
Would you look into those “Mother me” eyes
I love you for you, my love, you my love
You my love, you my love
Jury, you’ve heard every word
But before you decide
Would you look into those “Mother me” eyes
I love you for you my love, you my love
I love you just for you, my love
Don’t blame

The sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan
Because he’ll never, never do it again
And…
“In the midst of life we are in death ETC.”
Don’t forget the hooligan, hooligan
Because he’ll never, never do it again
And…
“In the midst of life we are in death ETC.”

ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC!
IN THE MIDST OF LIFE WE ARE IN DEATH ETC!
ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC!
IN THE MIDST OF LIFE WE ARE IN DEBT ETC!

Just will you free me?
Will you find me?
Will you free me?
Will you find me?
Will you free me, free me, free me, free me, free me, free me, free me?
Jury will you free me?
Will you find me?
Will you free me?
Will you find me?
How will you find me, find me, find me, find me, find me, find me, find me?
Oh ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC!
ETC! ETC! ETC! ETC!
IN THE MIDST OF LIFE WE ARE IN DEBT ETC!
Oh… oh…
- Tansy
  
  This is what the 5th time you’ve posted this? Still reads hateful and childish. :/
  - SpiritOf77
    
    I’ve posted this once. I’m not spamming my comment. I do have the right to edit my comment for spelling errors and to add thoughts that had not previously occurred to me. If you think my comment is childish and hateful then so be it. However, do not accuse me of spamming my comment because I’m not. I merely edited and amended it a few times.
  - SpiritOf77
    
    Oh my, what a lovely passive-aggressive way to put the blame on those who might be feeling angry and scared right now instead of on the two individuals responsible for the bombing. I don’t feel scared, hateful or violent at the moment. However, I do understand that there might be some people directly affected by the bombings who are presently experiencing those feelings in combination with many other emotions. Why don’t you go show them that oversimplified note right now and see what type of reaction you get? Tell them, “See, it’s just this easy!”. It reads like some trite quote from Yoda in “Star Wars”.
Fanintheattic

My valid point has been washed away in a wave of apathy. When did it become pc to empathise with those who made a conscious decision to go out and commit murder. I did not realise that to be a free thinking rational person I had to make room in my heart for the evil within our society. Your poem is I feel self serving. You are patting yourself on the back for being bigger than those of us how cannot feel compassion for this guy/guys.
http://www.facebook.com/molly.quinlan.7 Molly Quinlan

You’re writing as if he is a character in a story, as if you are some omniscient narrator who has insight into his thoughts and feelings. He is an actual person who actually killed people and caused a lot of pain. He is not some tragic character that you can write a sympathetic back story for or imagine a situation for that would push him into bombing the marathon. He is a man who made the decision to hurt innocent people. This is disrespectful to the victims memories, to the injured, to their friends and families, to the people who are still dealing with the fact that this happened in their beloved city.
- Amanda Palmer
  
  I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
  Not so sorry,
  Amanda Palmer
  
  PS-Fans stay tuned for some new iTunes exclusive tracks this summer. Only $1.99 per track!
  - That Word Grrl
    
    TL-DNR: I regret nothing. I’m not sorry. Oh and give me money!
  - http://twitter.com/DrollNDry Tommy Joe
    
    Trolllolololololllll.
huh?

I just keep trying to figure out who the hell Amanda Palmer is.
- Tansy
  
  Maybe figure out whom you are, Craig/Duss/???
@donkeyterror

Amanda, it isn’t “controversial” its just very poorly written
- Amanda Palmer
  
  you’re talking about it, aren’t you? My work here is done…
@donkeyterror

what were you smoking when you wrote this! cigarettes?
Amanda Palmer

WE ARE THE MEDIA
- Fanintheattic
  
  We are attention seekers
- SpiritOf77
  
  “You don’t know” how pretentious you look.
  
  “You don’t know” that all of you look like you take yourselves too seriously.
Amanda Palmer

I COULD GIVE A SH*T WHAT YOU N*GG*R FAGGOTS THINK
Craig

Hi, Amanda. I was just wondering how this qualifies as a poem as it doesn’t rhyme?
@donkeyterror

is this just a list of things?
Amanda Palmer

I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
Not so sorry,
Amanda Palmer

PS-Fans stay tuned for some new iTunes exclusive tracks this summer.
- Coach K
  
  You empathized with someone who murdered 5 innocent people. One of them an 8 year old child.
  - wiccabasket
    
    And you just fell for a troll. Why am I not surprised.
@donkeyterror

yes, Amanda, there is a difference between a literally and figurative bomb.
Pill

I think the poem could be greatly enhanced if it had a rhyming scheme. rhyming is a common poetic style and I think it would work well here
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcelino-Soliz/1474415971 Marcelino Soliz

Thanks for the art Amanda. It’s a tragedy and people will be assholes and will say what they have to say because they think they know better. But no matter what it’s a good poem. You are strong and have always proven how strong you are, fuck em they don’t know what you think or mean. Take care of yourself.
Discordia

It’s easy, sometimes, to get downtrodden in the hateful, bile filled sewers of the internet (where somebody must have posted a link to poor Amanda’s blog, bringing the molemen back here…) When the poem was first posted there was quite an enlightened discussion going on about the ethics of empathy and the politics of trying to love those that do not deserve it. But of course, the dumb, literalist, knee-jerk hordes have to ooze out of the woodwork, which is discouraging. Also, kind of sad that they have nothing better to do than obsessively troll someone who is actually making something and actually engaging with this tragedy and actually trying to make sense of it.
I would advise folks to stay away from comments for a while. Read enough of these, and its easy to get the wrong idea about people. Not everyone has to agree, not everyone has to like this poem, but most people don’t respond to an earnest, heartfelt attempt to engage with tragedy with a childish name calling war.
And for those of us who found the poem beautiful, and who were helped, in some small way, to deal with the tragedies of the past week — there’s nothing wrong with you. And for those of you who find the idea of trying to understand a killer repugnant — there’s nothing wrong with you either. Lets all just find the best way to cope and get along, and not tear down others for doing the same.

From me, anyway, thanks Amanda. I found the poem powerful, and I know others did too.
- Coach K
  
  Simply will not let Amanda and her ilk get away with sympathizing with the killer of an 8 year old child and 4 other innocent people.
eadtuff

Dear Amanda, I am Najib, an 11 year old boy from Occupied Palestine. Word of your poem reached us here earlier today and I spent the meagre few shekels I had saved from helping Mr. Samer from the grocery story unload produce to buy time in the web cafe to comment on your blog. I had my older brother who studied in Europe look over my letter because I am still learning English and I hope you understand. I study writing and someday want to be a famous writer who will advance the cause of my people and country. From one writer to another I must ask you a question though, why does this poem not rhyme? It makes no sense to me as I thought that poetry meant rhymed verse. Perhaps you forgot to put the rhyming words in between? I am very confused and here in Ramallah we are told that Amanda Palmer is one of the great artists of the West. Old men in the cafe are arguing and one even burned a picture of you. Everybody is angry and confused about this “non-rhyming poem.” Please help, or fix your poem, thank you Miss Amanda. Inshallah.
- onwardartistsoldiers
  
  Amanda doesn’t know the location of your Palestine. Or Chechnya, for that matter.
- http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle
  
  …Really?
- lentower
  
  Poems do not have to rhyme.
  
  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_verse
Jim

Amanda doesn’t have to defend herself to anybody, least of all the jealous underachiever “artists” who have hated and envied her for years. There’s nothing in that poem that defends that terrorist monster. Amanda merely attempts to understand his thinking. That does not mean she sympathizes with that goon. That’s just her way. Amanda sees things we don’t see.
- offthedeepend
  
  “Amanda sees things we don’t see.”
  
  HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
  
  Yes, she sees herself as the center of the universe.
Coach K

Amanda’s next piece will be entitled “A Poem For Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris”
ZepFan

You don’t know how disgusting it is to see someone exploit tragedy for their own gain. Get rid of that “support my art” box at the bottom of your “poem”; if your heart was truly in the right place you would only be asking for donations for the victims.
http://twitter.com/MissShivvers Siobhán

Dear Everyone,
Free Verse is a thing.
If you are going to criticize, go ahead. But let’s try something a little better than “It doesn’t rhyme”.
It might produce some interesting and constructive conversation.
God forbid.
- http://twitter.com/Hermit_Thrush Hermit Thrush
  
  “Free Verse”? well i guess you get what you pay for
awesome dude who rules

this poem sucks ass haha so did your band sorry im glad steve albini was mean to you
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1558645006 Lori McLeod Wilke

Censoring Amanda? Somehow my posts are disappearing. So I’ll try one more time…your music was your “bomb” and isn’t much different than the bomb this Islamic Terrorist put down next to a now dead 8 year old boy? Did your music kill people; cause amputations and burns over 70% of people’s bodies?

Do you even realize how idiotic that question was?
- Whatever.
  
  Amanda didn’t write that. Trolls have been posting that fake artist’s statement around for a while now. It’s kind of a stupid waste of time, considering everybody’s already pissed off at her.
Amanda Dahmer

I know us flocking to her website is exactly what she wanted to gain here, but eff it. Amanda you’re a disgusting pig. ROT!
“torts”

hello amanda! torts here. i think this poem is very bad! i wish you had not written it not just for my sake because i had to read it but also for your sake because i am embarrassed for you! sorry! good luck next time!
Amanda Dahmer

Career Killer AHAHAHAHA this was the funniest end to a shitty career we could have hoped for
Tansy

So ‘Craig’ has how many multiple personalities here?!
Amanda Dahmer

To think she did this to gain exposure, therefore $$$ and now her name will forever be associated with this. You will hopefully be working at a Walmart in a year, AMANDA
http://twitter.com/one2ohmygod COACH HUGHES

“I was wondering when we’d get Amanda Palmer’s thoughts on the Boston Marathon Bombings”, Said no one, ever.
Tansy

“I am Craig – we are legion”
http://twitter.com/guitarzan60 guitarzan60

This is poetry? Sounds more like the incoherent rambling of someone who’s career is in the shitter.
- bill lignos
  
  Your hundred percent correct. you hit the cock right on the head. in the shit tter alright.so are those eyebrows
terrible

You don’t know what this poem is about.

You don’t know this poem.

You don’t know poems.

You don’t know.

This is a terrible poem, not only for it’s content. But just a terrible poem in general.

Also, isn’t it convenient how there is a “donate to me” button right underneath the “donate to boston” button.
BrianH1972

You don’t know how bad your poem is.

You don’t know unbearably untalented you are.

You don’t know how many people have never even heard of you… or worse….ever will.

You don’t know what its like to be water boarded because you rarely bathe.

You don’t know how laughable you would be to so many if they even knew who you were.

You don’t know that your poor attempt at “poetry” will not elevate your measly status or public recognition.

You don’t know how un smart you actually are.
- bill lignos
  
  this is great, i was laughing my nuts of at this reply. fck# this attention seeking b#tch. her face looks like my asshole with those eyebrows
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/ 1
Duss

This really needs more rhyming. You don’t know that?
Tansy

Duss: the new Craig.
amanda palmer’s butt

I’d reckon Amanda Palmer has somehow butted her way into d-list stardom. Let’s home she moves into a cave now. Z-listed!
Tansy

Sooo you guys are just cycling through new names spewing the same shit over and over?
- Duss
  
  no
ZapFan

You don’t know who we are.
You don’t know what we’re doing.
You don’t know us.
- bill lignos
  
  you don’t know how big Palmers nuts are, you don’t know about Palmers asshole looking eyebrows, you don’t know Palmers poetry sucks a big hog
ra44mr2

Its truly sad, to sympathize with a man that killed an 8 year old boy on purpose. I wonder would still write this poem if that boy were your son, or nephew, or cousin. Just sad. You should have written a poem for that little boy or his parents. No pain that kid experienced will compare to the pain those parents will have to endure for the rest of their lives. Losing a child, the pain never fades it just becomes to the point that the person can function daily with the pain.
http://www.facebook.com/nathan.scalia Nathan Scalia

1) Writing a poem that tries to humanize a suspected terrorist does not
mean that she is neglecting the 8 year old victim. The 8 year old victim
is not being neglected by anyone. In fact, I’ve heard far more about
him than the two others who died in the attack. Nobody else is trying to
humanize the suspect.

And that’s what artists do. They try to show you something you haven’t quite seen yet.

You can choose to agree or disagree with the viewpoint being offered, but don’t put words in her mouth.

2) Don’t act like Amanda is the one being emotionally crazy here. Let’s
think about the victims who are getting any coverage at ALL by the
media. All I really know is that an 8 year old boy died in the attack,
and that there was a guy who got his legs blown off. From what I can
tell, those are the only people that anyone can readily identify from
the victims. The two emotional heavy-hitters. Can you name the hundreds
of other victims of this crime? Can you name the other two people who
died? Can you even name the boy who died?

All of this was horrible, not just the 8 year old. Not just the guy with
his legs getting blown off. Not just the stuff that you see that grosses
you out or scares you.

Nobody needs help seeing the tragedy of a child who died, or the tragedy of
the guy who got his legs blown off, because most humans are programmed
to react to that anyway. We empathize with the innocent and those who
suffer.

But from all the comments I’m seeing that are wishing for a nineteen year
old to spend the rest of his life experiencing prison rape, I’m fairly
sure that humanizing the suspect IS a necessity, because obviously, most
people don’t seem to be capable to doing this on their own.

3) Finally, can anyone actually confirm that this guy shot anyone? Made
bombs? Are there any pictures of him carrying a bomb? None of the news
sources agree on anything, even a timeline of what’s been happening. We
don’t know why the MIT guard ended up dead, or how the suspect got away
from the first firefight, and so forth.

Perhaps Amanda was totally, 100% wrong in her poem about the suspect’s possible
motivations and relationships. But since we don’t know anything yet,
there really is no basis to claim that she’s ignoring the truth of the
matter. Not even the news can figure that part out.

What Amanda seemed to do, in the vacuum of certainty, was to feel the tragedy for everyone involved. She chose compassion.

And when a suspected terrorist is captured and no longer a threat, then I
don’t think we should ever fault someone for having the strength to show
compassion.

It’s really very easy to hate. That’s why terrorists hate us, and we hate
terrorists. But it’s much more difficult to love. Agree with her or
don’t, but let’s not attack people for choosing to love just because you
can’t get past hate yet.
Lady

First read through-bad

Second read through-worse

Third read through-oh God it’s kinda growing on me!
http://www.facebook.com/Winston.lumpkins Winston Washington Lumpkins IV

Someone needed to write this. For all the corruption & evil, he is, or was, a human, just like every other human. Some can’t face that dark truth, our world is dark & full of horrors. He is no a monster, he is simply a confused human. Confused humans are capable of horrible & monstrous things. We must remember that.
- Coach K
  
  tell that to the mom and dad of the 8 year old boy who was killed
Tansy

Love you Amanda <3
Scarlet

Do you know why this poem is so offensive, Amanda? Let me spell it out for you because I really think you don’t know. It’s not because people find poetry offensive or because they hate you personally (I didn’t really follow you or your career before today, but googling you I’ve found out who you are.)

They find this offensive because YOU are using a tragedy to exploit victims, to personally increase your fame, and to profit off of it, which makes you as despicable as anyone in the situation, because you’re another vulture; you’re not here to empathize with anybody who’s been hurt, you’re here to profit off the situation, increase and feed your own fame, and this isn’t about philosophy.

Your poem is rather shallow and it shows you for what you are. Exploitative, cheap, and unwilling to be honest as to your true motives. You don’t really care about looking deeper into the situation. You are a creature of ego, and your “poem” shows that.

If you really want to show empathy, reverse your stance on the situation. Donate 100% of all profits to victims. Take a good hard look at what your ego really brings you and how it’s isolating you from this situation and your “fans.” I never was one of them, had never heard of you till today, and I’m not likely to become one now. You seem an ugly person.
- Christ Why
  
  You don’t know anything about Amanda Palmer, never knew anything about her at all before today, and now after “googling” her for a few minutes, you feel you know her well enough to read this single poem and tell her that she is using a tragedy to exploit victims and increase her fame and profit? Not that, maybe, she felt something strong and found a way to deal with it through her words, and, being the open individual she is, wanted to share it with her loved ones, her fans? Because you read some controversy over a poem you don’t like and read a couple things on the internet (because we all know everything on the internet is true and completely unbiased and factual) you feel you know this woman well enough to tell her that she is shallow and ugly, exploitative, cheap?
  
  We get our hands on google and suddenly we are experts on things we haven’t a clue about. I HIGHLY doubt this is going to isolate her from her fans. Even those fans who don’t care for the poem, who may even be offended by the poem, most will know and understand her well enough to not hate her forever for it. I think you’ve underestimated the fan dynamic here.
  - Coach K
    
    because you are so much more “complex” and “deep” than everyone else, right?
    - Christ Why
      
      I don’t see how you got that from my comment? I never said I was complex or deep in any way, but I’m not just going to google a person and think I can judge their character and true intentions from a few things I read on the internet about them. This person has made a lot of assumptions based on what he has read and learned online some time in the past day, and he is saying some very nasty things about a human being purely based on those assumptions, and if you ask me, that is ugly.
      - Christ Why
        
        (sorry, he or she*)
      - Coach K
        
        Think those of us who read the above poem have “a clue” as to what she was doing. Whether or not we knew who she was before today or not.
        She was sympthasizing with someone who blew up people, including a little boy.
      - Christ Why
        
        You obviously haven’t read many of the other comments here, because this point has been addressed many times. There is a difference between sympathy and empathy. She’s not condoning what he did, she’s not praising him, and she’s not saying she feels sorry for him. She never said this poem was from his point of view. You are interpreting it how you want to without going any deeper than what you see on the surface. It’s not as obvious as you think it is, and it’s not as literal as you think it is.
      - Christ Why
        
        I’ve just come across a few of the other comments you’ve made on this post and realized this conversation is a lost cause.
      - Coach K
        
        Right, like I said, you guys are so “deep” for regular Americans who are outraged over the murder of 8 year old kids.
  - Scarlet
    
    RollingStone, Salon, BuzzFeed, and others have made finding Palmer’s previous work, as well as the kickstarter controversy, quite easy.
    
    If Palmer had built up previous karma for being a kind, caring individual, I’m sure the media outlets who are now writing about this endeavor would be reflecting more kindly upon this; they are not, partly because this work is exactly what it appears to be; exploitative, crass, and cheap. Palmer has not removed the ‘donate to me’ link. She has no idea how poorly this all comes across, particularly to people who have never heard of her before. The fact that she feels victimized at the reception of her poem is laughable
    
    Interestingly enough, another celebrity who got into big trouble this week, Reese Witherspoon, has at least enough common sense to apologize and not wreck her career. Amanda Palmer is so crazy it looks like she’s going to take her career down with her.
    
    Amanda, a tip: Wreck your career or salvage what you can as you like, but understand this… you’ve done major damage.
- http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle
  
  …So if you’re not a fan, nor ever plan to be one, why post a hateful comment? Close the browser window. There. See? Don’t you feel better.
  - Scarlet
    
    A lot of people engage in debate on websites, about different topics. Your comment is interesting. Do you feel that only people who are fans of Amanda Palmer should come here? And that those who disagree should simply never speak up? Why?
    
    Amanda making profit off the bombings and exploiting a national tragedy shows her in a really nasty light. She may in fact not be a nasty person; she may be just a victim of bad timing and circumstances. But she has a chance to change that, by donating all profits of this to charity. The fact that she is willingly keeping this money, even when all of these articles are redirecting even people like me who did not know of her before today is *very* telling.
- stormypink
  
  That is why you don’t get why Amanda has are craning your neck at the car wreck. Don’t come back.
ZapFan

but guys…

it’s ~~poetry~~~~~~~~
lalaland

I liked it when Amanda wrote on her hand that we were all “humans”, rather than Americans, or Democrats or Republicans. Im line with that idea, I just wish her empathy would reach also those absolutely awful situations that happen way too often in other places of the world, specially in developing countries. Of course not all of them, it is nobody’s job or duty to be there constantly telling the world what is wrong. There is no way one could possibly do that. Just every now and then, given that we are all “humans”, regardless of nationality. Just a wish, I am not saying it is her job or her duty either. I have no strong views on the poem though.
ZapFan

But don’t forget to donate everyone.

And maybe pitch in a few bucks for boston too.
Silence = Death

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU
- Tansy
  
  Hatred kills, hands down. Don’t become that or what you are fighting against wins.
Me

I just want to say thank you for doing this. Thank for your compassion. I don’t know how to explain my sympathy for this boy other than that he is someones child too. He was loved too. Do I condone? Of course NOT but am I wrong to feel empathy for a villain? I don’t think so.We are so quick to condemn…to answer hate with more hate. I choose love…even when it is misunderstood, condemned or deemed out of place.
When it hurts the most…I choose love.
- Coach K
  
  Empathetic towards Hitler?
bill lignos

wowi just flushed a nice Amanda palmer down the toilet.that sure was stinky, but it was nice seeing those eyebrows and crazy hair flush. I’ll tell ya what, she’s a real asshole ripper. stretched me out. how old are u Ananda 9?
- stormypink
  
  Who is Ananda?
chase

I wonder how many followers you’ve gained today due to others ignorance and stupidity.
You know, I know you never intend to get the big negative reactions… I’ve seen you at enough things that I know you’re actually pretty sensitive… but every time you do (for whatever reason) none of them seem to realize that they’re legitimizing your art with their hate. The more they hate it, the more vocal they are about it, the more relevant you are as a global artist.

You’re not just ours anymore honey. I’m sorry.
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/
http://www.facebook.com/thecoppo Paul Coppolelli

bravo.

writing a persona piece is always hard work. writing a persona piece from someone the public is being told to regard as an inhuman monster and nothing more is even harder.

this is fantastic work. i hope he gets a chance to tell us his story, he may have committed an inhuman act, but he i am sure he did it for human reasons, and i want to know what those were.
- Coach K
  
  There are no human reasons for murdering an 8 year old child.
  - Angora
    
    And yet, a human did it. Sad. Confusing. It’d be really nice to convince ourselves that he’s not from the same species as us, that he’s some kind of demon that came from elsewhere and we don’t have to feel linked to him in any way, but he’s a human. Humans have been doing this, and far worse, for millennia. If we want it to stop, we can’t keep burying that fact. We have to face it. Find a way to learn why people do it, what takes them that far, and then maybe we can make it stop.
    A poem is just a poem. But it’s a start.
    - Coach K
      
      Next up? A poem helping us face Stalin, huh? He is an empathetic figure for those who hate America. Which fine, hate America if you must, but for Amanda to live here and earn money here and then spit in the face of the nation in which she earns her success……just reprehensible.
      - Angora
        
        And that’s really what it’s about to some of you people, isn’t it? Not that it was a child, but that it was *our*child, and *they* did this to one of *ours*. Us. Them. Bad guys. Good guys. Montagues. Capulets. Do you think that works out well for anybody, historically?
      - Coach K
        
        We sure did not do it to ourselves last Monday. Amanda could have written any number of poems for the victims, the 8 year old child, etc.
        Instead she empathized with their murderer. Just rephrehensible.
      - Angora
        
        Jared Loughner did it to us, and he was one of us. Everyone wanted to talk mental health and disillusioned youth then. Why not now?
      - Coach K
        
        For the record, I am fine with Loughner’s death (should it happen), just as I am fine with the fact that McVeigh was killed for his crimes.
        Dzohkar should die.
      - Angora
        
        It won’t stop the next kid.
      - Coach K
        
        I agree that the FBI will have explaining to do.
      - Angora
        
        Should the FBI have cameras in the heads of every unhappy teenager? That’s an awful lot of cameras. That attempt hasn’t been working so far.
      - Coach K
        
        newsflash: teens are “angst ridden”/”unhappy”……most don’t pull a Dozhkar, Harris, or Klebold. Most manage to figure it out without killing 8 year old kids or shooting up their school. These guys are all losers and I for one, will NOT excuse,empathize, or sympathize with their evil.
      - Angora
        
        That’s true. Most don’t. But some, apparently, do. Policing them isn’t working. Maybe talking to them will. Are you really willing to sacrifice the next 8 year old kid for your hatred?
      - Coach K
        
        So we should “talk” to Dozhkar…..about his “feelings” and stuff?
        He made his bed, let him lie in it.
        Even his own uncle knows he is a loser.
      - Angora
        
        He should stay in jail… but we need to figure out why he did it, and how we can stop other young men from getting to that same place.
        That takes a touch of understanding, if not forgiveness.
      - Coach K
        
        An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
        But, yeah, let’s just let him live off my (and your) tax dollars into ripe old age.
      - Angora
        
        I’m sure the next 8 year old’s mom will be comforted to know you felt vindicated.
      - Coach K
        
        Listen, the courts will decide Dozhkar’s fate, not you (thank goodness) nor me.
        He is basically a dead man walking until the official sentence comes down.
      - Angora
        
        That’s true. Thank God. I never wanted to be a lawyer. Sounds awful to me.
        
        I just write poems and put on plays and try and convince people to undersatnd take care of each other. Just like Amanda.
        
        Good luck to you. I hope you feel better.
      - Coach K
        
        back at you.
- YouAreBizarre
  
  Yeah, probably the human part of all of us that likes to watch people writhing in pain while their limbs are irreparably mangled. The part of all of us that likes to abruptly end an event that the participants spend hundreds of dollars and hours upon hours of time and dedication in order to qualify for. That human part of us that likes to cause carnage and sadness.
  - Angora
    
    Do you think so? Maybe you should write a poem about it.
Gross

I was a block away from the bombs when they went off. The only reason I wasn’t near the finish line was because my dad had to use the rest room (and the port-o-potties were on Newbury St), but I heard the explosions as soon as we’d crossed the street. This poem isn’t about me. Fuck you.
http://twitter.com/Anamorphotic Anamorphosis

One thing I have to regard with amusement here is that Andre Breton would have eaten his right hand if he thought it would get so many people so outraged as this poem did.
amanapeanut

attention whore you are gross
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/ 1
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=665096992 Brian Stevens
  
  It appears you are mass spamming her site. Maybe it is time for an introspective look at a person who finds the need to attack people they don’t know and call them whores.
http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett

Um your poems are as bad as your eyebrows. Just stop. Please. Oh, and money/attention whore much? Seriously? Want to make $5 on a dead little boy? How do you sleep at night? Probably the same way you have to wake up and look at those eyebrows. Seriously.
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/
  - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
    
    Keep posting the same silly thing. It still doesn’t explain a love song to a terrorist child murderer…or wtf happened to her face.
    - Tansy
      
      Hatred turns you into what you’re fighting against
  - Scarlet
    
    Please stop spam trolling.
- stormypink
  
  Hater
ugh go away

Hey everyone complaining about the donation button:

That’s built into the site.
It’s automatic at the end of posts.
She didn’t just add it there specifically to get you to donate because of this poem.
- Scarlet
  
  But she also could remove it, or she could take the high road and say that all donations are going to Boston and the victims. She’s not doing that, adding to the sense that this is just what it seems to be: exploitation of the victims (and the bomber) for her own ego.
  
  I showed this to my fiance and he said, “I don’t know who this woman is and quite frankly I don’t want to know.” We both hope you crawl back into the hole you came from, if this is how you exploit tragedy, Amanda. You’re making money off this? You deserve every bit of negative publicity you get.
anonymous

I have a question for anyone who’s here to leave hate. Why are you here? Why do you bother to shoot someone down who is writing out what they feel and think? Nobody asked you to read this poem, you did so of your own accord. Most of you have chosen not to read anything but the words on your screen. There is more to it than that. Amanda Palmer did not write this for the bomber. She did not even write it about him. You may choose to see it that way, but you are wrong. Unlike with a painting, a poem is a piece of art that only has one true meaning and that is never the one you see on the surface. This poem is about people, all of us. We cannot sit here and deny that anyone is less than human, no matter how many times we are told that they are. The bombers were people. They felt, they thought, they fret over the simple things. Do you not realize that? I in no way condone their act. I do believe that the one living deserves a severe punishment. However, I refuse to view him as a monster. He is you, I am you, all of you are you. No one can say that they cannot agree with at least one line in this poem. That’s all it takes. Empathy is not a feeling to disregard. It takes courage to put something deemed controversial somewhere that any ignorant fool can see it and yell about it. We’re all just sitting behind computer screens, not showing anything more than a fake name and a comment. If you want there to be a poem that is actually about the victims, write one. If you want to see a poem that is actually written for the bombers, write it! Don’t come here to shoot down someone else’s work because you lack the ability to see it for more than it is or, if the case may be, you just don’t like it. It’s an amazing piece of art that can be related to by so many. The fact that everyone is complaining that a crime doer can relate to this too, just proves the point that we are all people and we do not deserve the high horses we put ourselves on after every sad and terrifying incident.
- Tansy
  
  Unfortunately hatred is easy.
- Coach K
  
  more empathy for the killer huh?
http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett

Haha this tripe filled trash-fest is the newest internet meme, read the comments below this thread for some serious laughs. I can’t believe there aren’t more “wtf happened to her face” comments though. That disappoints me.

http://gawker.com/amanda-palmers-a-poem-for-dzhokhar-is-the-worst-poem-476820444
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/
  - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
    
    LOL how did I know you were going to post that? Are you an automated response service? LOL!
    - Tansy
      
      Just like YOU!
      - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
        
        Actually butchered-eyebrow-lady-lover, I am a real person not copy-pasting the same link over and over. I could teach Mz. Eyebrowz a thing or two about real art and artistry, but it might offend the tiny pity gnomes living within her ear canals. You know, the voices that whisper to her in the dark?
        
        Look, you may want to be her lover, and even if she is lesbian (she probably is), she’s far too arogant and revolutionary to hoo kup with a silly little fangirl forum comment troll. Grow up kid.
      - Tansy
        
        Hatred got this situation to where it is. Hatred will only breed more of it. Try asking questions like ‘why’ before jumping on popular opinion bandwagons.
      - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
        
        Why did she forsake the victims? Why did she attempt to almost deify the terrorist? Why did she do that to her face? Why does she always look like she’s taking the most painful shit of her life? Why does she think she is an artist? Why did she commit fraud on Kickstarter? Why is she trying to collect donations for this bullshit thing she pretends is a poem? I’ve been asking why, all you’ve done is post a picture. Over and over.
      - Tansy
        
        What does her face have to do with your hatred and trying to make more people like the one you think she is defending? The donations are automatic at the end of posts.
        She didn’t just add it there specifically to get you to donate because of this poem.
Dchase

Why are the people who are upset because this poem humanizes the man who committed an inhuman act so angry with Amanda? The hate and rage they are spewing from the safety and comforatble anonymonity of their armchairs is much more akin to the heart of terror than any poem could be.
Helen

This poem is so relatable to everyone everywhere. Everyone feels pain and this is an example of it. This isn’t sympathy, just perspective. He’s 19 years old, he’s lost and his life is practically over. I’m thirteen and I understand this completely.
- stormypink
  
  That explains a lot
http://www.facebook.com/deborah.mccormick.333 Deborah McCormick

I read this poem twice, because I didn’t understand it at first. It’s not about Dzhokhar, if you bother to read between the lines. It’s about all of us who struggle in our own way. For most of us, we have enough kindness and compassion in our heart to traverse the wall. For others, darkness takes over. It’s not forgiving this violent act in any way, or even attempting to understand it. This is about all of us finding our way. And it’s not a poem for Amanda. She’s far too unassuming for that. Take this for what it is please… an expression of her soul. A beautiful one.
- Coach K
  
  It is in the title. A poem FOR Dozkhar. It is not a beautiful thing to most Americans and probably not to the parents of the 8 year old kid.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=68126551 Anna Elizabeth Lien
    
    perhaps for him to learn from if he could.
- ZepFan
  
  If it’s not a poem for Amanda than why is her collection box at the bottom of it? She is a despicable person trying to profit off of murder. Absolutely despicable.
  - http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle
    
    Automatic template. Check out her other blog posts.
  - evelyn
    
    You have to understand, it’s hardwired into her blog – it appears on all the pages. I don’t know how this particular page is coded, but removing it is probably a long and tricky process, particularly if she’s not herself a computer person and the guy who does the website’s not available or something. So instead she stuck a donation button to the boston 1 fund up so that’s what you see immediately after the post.
- rory
  
  thank you. exactly.
- Poem Authority LLC
  
  It may be an expression of something, but it isn’t a poem. It doesn’t rhyme.
Brandon Zarzyczny

I wonder where the line in your “poem” is about him knowingly placing a bomb right behind an innocent child having an amazing time at the Boston Marathon, or all of the people that lost multiple limbs and even more people that may suffer from life long traumatic stress because of the actions of an evil horrible person named Dzhokar.
- Tansy
  
  Let’s never ask ‘why’. Just hate and make more people like that?
http://twitter.com/LunacyLunacy Newt Bran

why doesnt it rhyme? wtf?
- Bald Dude
  
  Why doesn’t it make sense?
free verse poems

the only way
i know how
to wash dishes
is by smashing them
against the wall!

— Pedro Pietri
Pat

“you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.”

What the FUCK possessed you to use these words? You do realize how many people have been robbed of their legs by the guy you insist we should empathize with, right?
Skroo

“Go in fear of abstractions.” — Ezra Pound

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that it’s a pretty bad poem just in general.
http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett

Here is some of her fraud she committed via Kickstarter. Oh, and according to the photo they show in the link, I’ve found out where her eyebrow hair went. It slithered down to her armpits.

http://gawker.com/5944050/amanda-palmers-million+dollar-music-project-and-kickstarters-accountability-problem

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/10/amanda-palmers-kickstarter-scandal.html
- Tansy
  
  http://instagram.com/p/YbX0xnQW5Q/ ****Love***
- Coach K
  
  Serious question, Amanda is a female right? OR Is it a transevite?
  If a real woman, then let me suggest shaving the armpits…..
  - Tansy
    
    Love to you too mr crankypants! <3
    - Coach K
      
      Just shave them, okay?
      - Tansy
        
        I’m not Amanda darling, but I’m happy that you’re concerned about the state of women’s bodyhair as something so important in your life. Try leaving America once in awhile. <3
      - Coach K
        
        Been to Europe, wish they’d clean up over there, too.
      - Tansy
        
        Love is still the way dude. <3
      - Coach K
        
        Love is easier when the chicks are hairless in certain parts of the body though.
      - Tansy
        
        This tells me you’re young. Love is not hair, silly. Believe it or not it’s not even looks. What you’re talking about is lust. Lust is nice but it’s definitely not love. <3
      - Coach K
        
        Not so young, and good old fashioned lust has it’s place.
      - Tansy
        
        Well much luck to you in your old age. It all sags, wrinkles and gets hairy one day.
      - Coach K
        
        already found out…..
      - Tansy
        
        Then you know! Pfft you’re just being silly now.
  - fuckyou
    
    Amanda is a real woman. She was born a female and is still a female. However, her armpit hair is not yours to decide. Women’s armpit hair is not yours to decide. Let me suggest not being chauvinistic and also learning how to spell the word transvestite correctly.
  - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
    
    Haha and she should probably start picking up applications from her local McDonalds. They’re the only one’s who’d giver her a job at this point.
    
    you don’t know they want a value meal
    you don’t know they want fries with that
    you don’t know they think you’re actually a man
    you don’t know if the fish filet patties are cooking at the right temps
    you don’t know
Angora

The comments suddenly reminded me of this Ani Difranco poem:

“When they said he could walk on water
What it sounded like to me
Was he could float like a butterfly
Sting like a bee.
Literal people are scary, man
Literal people scare me
Out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
While getting it wrong fundamentally
Down at the church of, “Look,
It says right there, see?”
- Rhymer
  
  At least that rhymes.
for amanda

She rises from a chair
and slides toward the stage
with satin feet over a worn-wood floor.
She bears down on the microphone
like a blues singer about to reveal
some secrets.
A fever of poems in her hand.
She seizes the mike
and begins her seduction

I’m in the back of the bar,
my head down.
The things she does to me
with words.
I want to leave. I want her
never to begin.
She stars with a poem
about Daddy-love, and I feel
like getting right up there
and yelling: Don’t read that poem!
That one that causes little bursts
of screams inside my head,
that makes tears come to my eyes,
that I refuse to let fall

Don’t read that poem!
the one about a daughter raped and killed
in the shadow of a second’s dark fury,
I want to hide in the neon glare above me;
to swim away in the glass of beer
I hold so close to me.
She does another poem
about her many mouths
and I want to howl:
Don’t read that poem!
that one that entices me
to crawl under her skin,
to be her heartbeat.

Oh, how she plunks the right noes,
rendering me as clay in bruised hands.
No, don’t do that one about
what it is to be
a nine-year-old black girl,
the truth of it trembling at my feet.
Somebody should make her stop!

I should be home, watching TV,
blank-eyed behind stale headlines,
cold popcorn on the couch,
a dusty turntable
going round and round and round.
I should be fixing a car.
Or shooting eight-ball.
But I can’t leave.
I need to taste the salt of her soliloquy,
to be drunk with sobriety
of her verse
quaking beneath my eyelids.

— Luis J. Rodriguez, “Don’t read that poem!” (for Patricia Smith)
Dchase

Why are the people who are upset because this poem humanizes the man who committed an inhuman act so angry with Amanda? The hate and rage they spewing from the safety and comforatble anonymonity of their armchairs is much more akin to the heart of terror than any poem could be.
- ZepFan
  
  I’m upset that she’s trying to profit off the murder of 4 people. She should remove her “support my art” box from this; she has absolutely no class.
Coach K

Red Sox just won 9-6. A glimmer of good news during an otherwise dark time for the people of Boston.
- Tansy
  
  Man, I hope they shaved their pits for that.
  - Coach K
    
    Men don’t got to, just the chicks.
    - Tansy
      
      Hahahahaha! *wipe tear* Hahahahaha! Oh hon. <3
shleyap

He’s a little boy who committed himself to carrying out acts of terror that incited horror and brought Boston to its knees. It rips my heart out to think of the people living in places where this happens every day, multiple times day. I do not have sympathy toward him or anything at all that will happen to him, but he is still a child who did things that speak of a much older, grown and learned hatred.
You don’t know the way to New York? You cannot ruin us.
GMACD

Why are you mucking up the world with your annoying music and poetry. Do the honest thing and fade into oblivion.
- rory
  
  get over yourself fuckwad
  - GMACD
    
    WOW, fuckwad that is quite a put down that I’ve not heard since grade school. Apparently you’re a big fan of amanda palmer who is a big fan of what I’ll call a “person” which is stretching his status in the human race and enjoys hurting innocent people and killng children. Think about that next time you go to one of her concerts or download her next song or album.
- stormypink
  
  This is a fan site, idiot
  
  T
  - GMACD
    
    A fan site for those who enjoy seeing innocent children and adults having thier limbs blown off apparently!
http://www.facebook.com/steve.evans.3386585 Steve Evans

Could you write one about Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, etc.?
- not a poet
  
  try John Wayne Gacy jr by Sufjan Stevens.
Johnny Alpha

This reminds me of when some wanted to memorialize Harris and Kleybold with the same reverence as their innocent victims (specifically, a white cross) days after that abomination. This is what ignorant fools like Amanda Palmer DON”T get: There is a PROFOUND MORAL DIFFERENCE between killing children with a nail bomb, and, for instance, applying the death penalty to those who murder children. There is a PROFOUND MORAL DIFFERENCE between the hate that inspires mass murder, and the ensuing hate OF the mass murderer. It’s perfectly normal and justifiable to hate soemone who slaughters your child. You have no obligation to offer them forgiveness and you are NO LESS of a moral person for not doing so. Those who try to draw a moral equivalence water down the moral severity of the crime, and dishonor and insult the victims, which is why people are rightly outraged by the sentiments of this poem. Shame!
- Coach K
  
  Tansy: See this. Johnny Alpha said what I have been trying to elucidate, but he did it much better.
  - Tansy
    
    No, I hear what you’ve been saying. I’m not saying that I don’t. It’s your execution of what your saying that winds up not being heard. Discussion leads to communication and answers. Yelling just makes noise.
- Angora
  
  That’s very true. You have every right to feel however you want to feel when someone has wronged you.
  
  As for me, and Amanda, and others, we’re going to try and understand the sorry state of affairs that creates a world in which teenagers feel compelled to kill strangers. Because it keeps happening, and happening, and happening. It’s terrible, and sad, and stupid. If we shut off our empathy, we may never be able to figure these kids out, understand what kind of a life creates a killer at such an age. If we can’t see them as human, we’ll never be able to understand what takes a sweet, innocent baby and turns him into a killer in 19 years. Humanizing him is a step towards understanding how he could do it, understanding is a step towards making the world better so it never happens again. Art is a step in the right direction. It’s a start.
  
  But you handle this tragedy how you see fit, and we’ll do the same. So long as you’re not hurting anyone, I’ll not judge your anger if you’ll not judge my poetry.
  - Johnny Alpha
    
    Angora, you’re kidding yourself. Whether or not you have empathy for a killer has little or no bearing on your ability to figure out why he/she did it. Also, your words are telling when you say “what kind of life creates a killer”, in that you take the responsibility off the killer and put it on the “life”, for the killing. What’s really going on here are two things: you don’t want to believe in the concept of evil, and you flatter yourself to think that if you exhibit utopian standards of loving kindness that evil will just go away. It’s a fools game and it paradoxically leads to MORE suffering, not less because you excuse the murderer, making it apparent to future murderers that they will enjoy your soft pink fuzzy bunny safe harbor, and you insult the victims who have suffered enough.
    - Angora
      
      I hope you feel better. Good luck.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        Not sure what you re talking about. I never felt poorly.
    - Realist
      
      Had it ever crossed your mind that this is inevitable? This is merely a case of situational physics…. action, reaction, repeat-ad nauseum. Tragic? yes, but just a tragedy amongst other tragedies with more to come. I really wish people would learn someday.
http://www.facebook.com/tatiana.prophet Tatiana Prophet

I get it. Before everybody freaks out, read the whole thing. Also, P.S. did you realize Dzhokhar probably killed his brother? http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-details/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
- Coach K
  
  Karma
- http://www.facebook.com/brent.alwaysright Brent Alwaysright
  
  Bitch, please!
thecraftiefoodie

I think it’s beautiful… this has been such a sad and tragic week on so many levels. Thank you for sharing your heart.
Realist

Look up the word “blowback”. This heinous act is only one of many on both sides of the argument but it had one virtue (if you can call it that)…. exposure. Hard cheese but this is the price of empire… always has been and always will be….. sad
http://twitter.com/AnneArque Lucy Gibson

I am the man who bombed
I am lost
I am a star in darkness where sometimes I forget that I can shine.
The man who bombed forgot that. The darkness consumed him.

No one probably told him he could shine.

We burn out. Even the brightest star we know, the sun, will burn out.

But I can see you in the sky at night and I love you.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=68126551 Anna Elizabeth Lien

In response to the bombing, I said on facebook :

Boston.
I wish I could say I was shocked. Saddened? Absolutely. But in a world
where everyone and no one is special, our lives are measured by the
number of beans we count, to love another person is a commercial idea
pitched in big-budget fluff films, and endless numbers are struggling to
attain skills in a merciless and stagnated economy, it seems we are
sick, have been sick, and will continue to
be sick, self absorbed, and self destructive. Who was it? Who knows.
Doesn’t matter. They were broken and wanted to break others. They were
sick. We are crumbling from the inside out.

Send money. Donate blood, if you can. But ask why this happened, not to each other, but
yourself. And then show love to someone before they become the next
destroyer. Love, love, love your neighbor – reach out, tell the truth to
help them grow, show them you are worth loving, flawed as you are, and
love them hard with all their broken pieces. We cannot change our world
unless we change a heart.

And in moments of levity, be sure to “play your ukelele.””

We have to wonder how he got there. It’s easier to label “monster” and walk away without “praying for those who persecute you.” But how many people can never be saved from being the next monster if we don’t search for ways to relate and connect. We have to dream of a world where this might be or it won’t get better. So say it.
thehellisthis

This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read…I just…this is complete garbage
http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle

…It’s a fucking poem. Does it really deserve 1678 comments? Last time I checked (10:44pm when I scrolled to the top of the page), this was Amanda Fucking Palmer’s blog. Last time I checked (10:45pm) it says no where that she has to post something to please the masses. Last time I checked (10:46pm) I saw a lot of people complaining about “attention whoredom” who really were just seeking attention themselves. Hey. Isn’t there a new Amanda Bynes tweet about Drake murdering her girly parts to go criticize? If the woman wants to express her thoughts in a poetic format, be it complete garbage or not, let her. Christ. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Move on to your hipster drivel and stop polluting my internet with your negativity. We’ve seen enough tragedy this week; Don’t let your faceless criticism be yet another.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Revolutionary poets/musicians like to flatter the power of their pen and say that their words can change the world (which it can). But when their words fall flat, they (you) use the excuse that “it’s just a fucking poem”. Are words powerful or not? Which is it?
  Nobody’s saying she doesn’t have the right to post whatever she likes on her own blog. Free speech goes both ways. If she doesn’t like comments, then don’t have a blog that allows comments. Simple.
  - http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle
    
    Shouldn’t poetry invite thoughtful, inquisitive discussion and not ignorant spewing of over-reactionary name-calling and mud-throwing? I envision this piece being presented during a creative writing critique, where these “haters” can face the poetess face-to-face and merely muttering that it’s “nice”. My irritation is mostly at the fact that because of the anonymity of the internet, we find it so easy to take a claymore and hack at someone’s knees.
    
    By your question, I believe that yes, words are powerful (obviously this blog post is evident of that) but to inspire personal attacks? That’s where “it’s just a fucking poem” comes in. I understand where nerves are raw that we are so quick to run to the gallows with the offender, but is it necessary for folks to say the same hateful diatribe over and over again?
    
    So to answer your query clearly: Yes. Words are powerful, but obviously ignorance and hate is far more superior in this forum.
- http://www.facebook.com/brent.alwaysright Brent Alwaysright
  
  No one is stopping the cunt. No one is stopping the backlash.
  - asdf
    
    Yes, yes, and no one is stopping you from being a douche now. We wish you wouldn’t be a douche, and we’re saying so. See how this works?
  - http://twitter.com/DodoGayle Dodo Gayle
    
    …Really?
http://twitter.com/PercyChuggs Percy Chuggs

This is just ridiculously stupid in every way.
Luscinia

I like this poem because it gave Vox Day an aneurysm.
Sexy Poet

From a purely poetical perspective, from someone who reads and writes a great deal of poetry, this is an ineffective and repetitive poem. Well, to be honest, it isn’t even written in verse so it is technically a prose poem. But in any case, it is just really shit, and I would never share such garbage myself – anywhere, let alone the whole motherfucking internet!
The premise, when I think about, isn’t too rage-inducing, but there is a severe lack of complexity in the examination of Dzjokhar’s (/mine/everyone’s) psyche anyway. If I were trying to be compassionate towards the man then I would write about the guilt he feels; the guilt he surely must feel at killing and maiming all those victims. This poem does not mention the victims at all (as well as being total rubbish) and I think this is the reason that there has been so much outrage. He is not a normal man. He might have been once, but you cannot pretend that he is a normal man now.
Luscinia

And they should have bombed a Buddhist monastery or a Sri Lankan concentration camp’s guard’s lounge.
kafkaz

Every poem is an exploration, every version of a poem is a draft, and every draft of a poem shared is an act of bravery. I’ve written far worse poems than this. Today’s writing alone makes this look pretty darned good, gosh darn it all. (Having one of those days when something goes terribly wrong between the image so clearly in my mind and the sentence so forlornly limping across the screen.) Look, every poem is self-referential to some extent. We take imaginative leaps, but of course can never leave ourselves behind entirely. Plus, we really *don’t* know all of the things that have to go terribly, terribly wrong for a young person to choose to do such things, and we really don’t know what happens in his brain and soul in the aftermath. It’s okay to wonder, even if the wondering doesn’t match what others want or expect or would articulate for themselves. Anyway, sometimes churning these things out is worth the effort even if when we go back later there’s only one idea or sentence or image we’d save–and even if we’d trash it all and begin again. I’m sympathetic to the impulse to write one’s way toward figuring things out. (But I’m glad that I don’t have a large audience tracking my efforts. Way too much pressure!)
Mister Right

It’s too bad Alexander Pope is not alive. He wrote a REAL poem called “The Dunceiad” which exposed the posers and untalented poetic hacks of his day. For many of those hack “poets” the only time you’ll ever see their names or hear about them is if you read “The Dunceiad”. And like them,the only way the name Amanda Palmer will last longer then the life of a fruit fly is if some far greater and far more talented writer decides to mock you in writing and hold you up to ridicule,not just to your generation,but to generations yet unborn. Yes because of the unrivalled and real genuis of Pope.people can still laugh at the phonies of 200 years ago. And Amanda, that is YOUR only hope for Fame.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://www.facebook.com/brent.alwaysright Brent Alwaysright

You and your “poem” suck incredibly hard.
ZepFan

Leave it to Amanda Palmer to make Brad Paisley’s “Accidental Racist” seem like Pulitzer Prize winning material.
oddfreakinghuman

AMANDA, I think it’s official: People hate you! It’s time to retire, so we never have to hear from you again.
- Theresa
  
  WE LOVE YOU AMANDA!
  - rory
    
    I LOVE AMANDA PALMER
    - Olive
      
      I LOVE AMANDA PALMER TOO
      - Babylon
        
        I LOVE AMANDA PALMER
visceralrebellion

This is the first time I’ve even heard of Amanda Palmer and I can’t say I’m too impressed. The claim that the author isn’t speaking in second-person from the younger terrorist’s point of view requires a textual stretch that doesn’t strike me as reasonable. I mean really, how many people hide in a stranger’s boat? To how many people does the following apply in the context of the current events and entire piece?

“you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown”

The particulars in the text are sufficiently specific to refute the author’s later claim of PoV. Given that, the author’s apparent backpedaling seems rather cowardly in light of the decision to publish such a provocative, in-your-face piece before the first of the Marathon victims is in the grave. If the author regrets posting it, come out and say it. Don’t hide behind a vague PoV argument that your own text cannot support.

As far as the debate between “empathy” and anger goes, I’d like to remind the “empathy” crowd of the definition of the word: “the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.” I want no part of anyone who claims to be empathetic with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, as such a person is by definition dangerous and needs to seek professional intervention posthaste.

The claim that “anyone can become Dzhokhar Tsarnaev” is ridiculous. He assassinated a police officer, murdered a child and three adults with a smile on his face, and made every effort to increase the body count before his failed suicide attempt. Could I do such a thing? NO. No question about it, I could NOT murder, particularly a child. The only way I can see myself killing another human being is to protect my own children, and I hope to God I never have to face that decision. The Tsarnaev brothers, by contrast, planned, sought out opportunities and carried out murders of all the above, with plans to murder more.

The ONLY similarity between me and the Tsarnaev brothers is the number of chromosomes in our cells, and I hate to admit even that scientific fact.

I reject any attempt by anyone to assert that I could be swayed or otherwise manipulated into following in the Tsarnaev brothers’ bloody footprints. I can’t fathom the goal of those who make such claims other than a misguided belief that identification with radical Islamists will somehow mitigate similar actions in the future. I promise you, your most heartfelt efforts toward that goal will mean less than nothing to the next Islamist plotting and executing mass murder.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Thank you for taking the time to write such a thoughtful comment.
  - visceralrebellion
    
    My pleasure, thank you for reading it.
http://www.facebook.com/brent.alwaysright Brent Alwaysright

Who is this cunt?
The Real Poet

You know a bomb is going to kill people

You know that and do it anyway

You know once you are found out, its the death penalty for you

You know you hate America, Hate all other religions than Islam.

You know your actions contributed to your dead brother.

You knew how to point a gun at a man to get that twenty dollar bill clutched in your hand, as the blood leaves your body.

You know your time draws short.

You know you are an embodiment of all that is wrong with America.

You don’t need the instructions to make a bomb on the internet, but you do know the left will use your bomb making to restrict what can be placed on the internet.

You know this as you lie in your own blood in the back of a boat, a boat a man WORKED for.

You will soon know our justice. You will soon either know the death penalty, or a life thrown away in prison.

You are dzhokhar, and are nothing more than evil incarnate.
- rory
  
  please don’t make this about religion or about politics. this is about people doing awful things because they are insane and sick. stop using it to push your bullshit agenda.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
    
    This is ALL about religion, i.e. ISLAM. Where did you spend the last years???
    - rory
      
      I spent the last years in new york city, fuckwit
anarchy_panty

“you don’t know how it felt to be in the womb but it must have been at least a little warmer than this.”

That’s a cool line. But, other than that…

I’m all for art being used to make people confront perspectives they might otherwise avoid, but you were just trying to stir the fucking pot with this and you know it.
- asdf
  
  Just what do you think “stirring the pot” means if not “Make people confront perspectives they might otherwise avoid”? Do you think people are always ecstatic when art confronts them with hard truths? Like, ever? In history?
  - anarchy_panty
    
    Your comment would be relevant if this poem was confronting anyone with a “hard truth.” Holy shit, Amanda, Dzhokhar was like…a person like me? So deep! Any edgy high school could have written this poem.
    - asdf
      
      And yet, this blog is flooded with people screaming, “NO! NO! HE’S JUST A MONSTER NOT A HUMAN!”
      Take a quick look. This very page disproves what you’re saying.
      - anarchy_panty
        
        I’ve seen them. Sure, hand-waving him away as a monster is a reductive, unproductive way to look at the events. But he was still a person who committed monstrous acts, and simply going, “NO HE WAS TOTALLY A HUMAN JUST LIKE US DUDE” is just as simplistic and naive in my book.
      - asdf
        
        Then you need a new book.
      - anarchy_panty
        
        You can tell me that the moment this poem and others like it spark a conversation worth having. If poetry like this can create anything positive, I will eat my words and start ransacking every high school creative writing class in the country. Until then, I’m standing by what I said: shit like this contributes fucking nothing to the discourse.
      - asdf
        
        OK. I’ll tell you what to do. Go to the top of the page and click where it says “Best”, and select the option, “oldest” As in, the oldest comments in the thread. That should take you back by about a day. See, before some fox news ideologue tweeted this to his minions and brought in all the trolls, a bunch of Palmer fans and non-fans were exchanging quite an interesting dialogue on the politics of empathy and the morality of caring for those who commit the worst crimes.
        The button is near the top. See it?
- narcissistwatch
  
  no actually she is largely unconscious of her own motives. she is pretty defended. hard-core narcissist.
Rory

“We have to create. It is the only thing louder than destruction.” -Andrea Gibson

Stop giving Amanda so much hate, guys. This is how artists cope with tragedy. We make something. We try to understand. We usually don’t understand. We try anyway. We try harder for our lacking.
- ZepFan
  
  This isn’t about art, this is about exploiting tragedy for personal gain. She’s trying to make money off a tragedy. She is despicable.
  - rory
    
    Notice that right below her poem she asks people to donate to a foundation working to help the victims of this bombing.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Fine, but don’t publish in the public sphere if you don’t want the public sphere to react according to their conscience.
JB

I bet he was an Android guy…
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=719057975 Angie E Cates

I think people think wayyyyy too much anymore. What a waist of time. 5 min of my life gone on this crap. Maybe we all need to get lives.
http://www.facebook.com/riley.secrist Riley Secrist

you don’t know how to write compelling poetry…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/ProphetKevin-Ives/1644274188 ProphetKevin Ives
  
  Oh it compels people. It compels people to stick a shotgun barrel in their mouth and blast away.
honez

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gregorsamsa

I don’t pretend to know how successfully you channeled this self-confessed murderer, Ms. Palmer. But as matter of human decency, perhaps a short empathic verse about each of the three murdered innocents and each of the 175+ injured ought to have preceded this bizarre, overwrought and puerile paean. On the other hand, if this channeling thing succeeds, you might have a more promising career preparing criminal profiles for the FBI.
Lewis Finch

Amanda…you are too young, naive and stupid for me to feel anything but pity for you…to paraphrase another great ‘poet': “Sometimes crazy is just crazy!” The simple fact of the matter is that his world wants us all dead. They (and I do mean the collective ‘they’) hate us! They hate you and me and everyone who doesn’t believe in their ‘invisible man in the sky’. And unfortunately, when they are successful at their objective, they end up killing innocent 8 year old boys who haven’t even been alive long enough to be a part of what they complain that we do that pisses them off – you know, the infidel thing. So I say, kill ‘em all! Every goddamn last one of them before they kill us! Oh, if I were your father, I’d tell you to stop writing these stupid poems, go back to school or go to work. You’re not that bright and it only makes you look like an idiot!
- rory
  
  Are you really advocating for killing all Muslims? YOU are what is wrong with America, taking violence and using it as an excuse for more violence.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
    
    What;s wrong with killing muslims??? Nothing.
    - rory
      
      What about children? Where do you draw the line?
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
        
        Ask Palmer. She obviously doesn’t draw a line as the killed 8 y/o child doesn’t seem to bother her. So why should I have a problem? Or is it only OK to kill white, christian and preferably male children, you hypocrite?
      - rory
        
        Since when does it not bother her? Since when does empathy for the killer maker he not care about the person killed?
        
        And I think it’s only the white, christian, male children YOU care about. Am I wrong?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones

I want a poem about killing muslim women, ripping their scarfs off of their ugly, hateful little heads, throwing acid in their ugly faces, skinning them alive and publicly flog them in central Boston. To give the victims of islam closure. Could you write such a poem for us because you are so fuc$@#g good at it, Amanda Palmer?
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Do NOT make the mistake that because we are offended by the sentiments of her poem, that we advocate more violence.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
    
    Who cares? I certainly don’t. I don’t advocate violence, It’s poetry, like lovely Amanda Palmer’s, just from the opposite side. I want the same credit she gets, unless you don’t get credit for calling out muslims in today’s sick age of phony outrage.
    And sooner or later, this whole muslim immigration thing will blow up and blood will flow in the streets of Europe and America, like it does everywhere else where muslim represent a larger part of the population. Think Christians in the middle east. We have 0.6% muslims in the US, yet we have a (foiled) terror attack or arrest someone for financing or supporting foreign terror groups almost every week. How will it be once there’s 1.2 or 1.8% muslims? It will be civil war. Not that I want it, I am just looking ahead.
- asdf
  
  Thank you for being such a great example of what we’ve been saying.
Iloveyouyesyou

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,”
Matthew 5:38-5:44
bjeanthejellybean

I am speechless (well almost). As a mother I can relate to the waste of these young men’s lives….But as a mother my heart breaks and I cry for the mother that lost her little boy, As you lament over this boy hiding in a boat with a dead phone battery, did you FORGET how this “boy” laid a backpack with a bomb in it next to an 8 year old child??? How dare you raise these “boys” to the level of victims.!
Realist

Could some of you bellicose psychos point out where the poem (not the best I’ve read but not the worst) is in any way supportive of the actions taken by Dzokhar and his brother? This shrill vitriol is out of step with what is in fact an innocuous narrative. I advise all the haters to go take a pill or something before they pop a stitch. I suppose we are supposed to lose our shit and run around baying for blood…. makes us feel good and involved. Ridiculous :/
http://twitter.com/bostonrandy Randy Clemens

This was 90 seconds of my life wasted.
Clueless

I hate how much controversy this has caused … I must be blind because I really don’t see what all the hubbub is about …
- Realist
  
  I agree….. mysterious ain’t it.
  - Clueless
    
    Seriously. When the bombings happened, I sympathized with Dzhokhar in the sense that I wondered what could have caused him to do such horrendous deeds. What was he so unhappy about that he would be okay to take the lives of others? I thought about the killer and wondered where he’d been. Does that make me a bad person?? No. It doesn’t. Amanda wrote what she was thinking. Does that make her a bad person?? No. Not at all. I just don’t understand where all the hate is coming from. She was actually on the news today. They said she wrote a “love poem” to him … This isn’t a love poem. I just don’t get how people work …
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
      
      I think you should see a shrink. You have the Stockholm syndrome.
      
      And regarding your question what caused him to rip a little boy and others into pieces: ISLAM. Not extremist islam, just regular islam. Read the Koran and Hadiths and you will understand.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones

I loved the picture of the naked dead corpse of the older terrorist
and I thought I gave the story a sexy new jest

the color of his body was purple and yellow

and it made me feel kinda mellow
as I could see his intestines true a big gaping wound
and there’s now way
this muslim animal will soon rest in a muslim tomb
no muslim last rite
for this piece of muslim shite
no more halal for this muslim
only halal food for the vermin
feeding on his rotting corpse

let’s get rid of them all
the muslim slime and cancer
let’s not rest till all of them fall.
PAZ

Thank you for sharing your poem. I think it was over a lot of peoples heads. Absolutely no reason for anyone to get mad at this poem. It is art.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
  
  Mine is art too.
- http://twitter.com/tgimacb tgimacb
  
  Ironic, the line in the “poem” “don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot…”
  
  Would one allow the perp to enjoy the chance to ‘give it a shot’ without lower legs/feet?
  
  Would one allow the perp to be shot (again)?
  
  Would anyone assuage this verbiage on par with POETRY?
diehardBostonian

For once in my life, I agree with Fox News. This piece of drivel is all about Amanda’s ego. As they say, Amanda got a lot of attention for doing this poem. I’m embarrassed that I ever stood in the same room as her.
Eliza

I think one major contributing factor to the fear-laden response to this poem and other similar expressions about the Boston bombings is that we are being forced to address our understanding of ‘terrorism’. Dzhokhar’s crimes have cornered us, shaken our frameworks and left us in a cloud of ambiguity; left us to understand Sandy Hook, Aurora, Syria, Palestine as inextricably connected. The familiarity of Dzhokhar’s life, his social existence, his history and his identity have thrown us all into a world where violence is simply violence. Whether we like it or not, our ability to frame Dzhokhar into our own world rattles our perceptions: terrorism is transported from the calculated, purposive acts of the dogmatically driven ‘other’ to a realm of violence, illness, socially driven responses and dangerous confusion.
- embarrassed Bostonian
  
  Not fear-laden. Nausea-inducing. Seeing the appropriation of this tragedy for the purposes of attention-seeking. Ugh.
  - Eliza
    
    I don’t understand how it can be seen as attention seeking? AFP has always written about youth violence. In fact, disaffected youth committing acts of outward or inward harm is a recurring motif in a great deal of her work; she included a song about Columbine on her first solo album
Zach

Honestly, I’m struggling to understand what makes this poem
“bad.” Some call the effort “self-serving” and “narcissistic” and others seem
to think Palmer is trying to make us feel compassion for Dzhokhar, but I don’t
think it’s about Palmer or the bomber. Although some of the lines are clearly
directed towards Dzhokhar, and others seem more introspective, the “you” at the
beginning of each stanza is never specifically identified, which makes me think
the poem is about all of us. As soon as the brothers set off those bombs, they
set into motion a chain of events that they could never take back or undo. And
everyone was affected—you, me, those who were injured, those who were killed,
everyone who witnessed it, everyone who watched it on television, Palmer, and
even the bombers. The poem seems like a reaction to that derailed train, a
reckoning with the consequences of that initial action. Sure, it may not be the
most eloquent thing I’ve ever read, but consider the context—it was posted to a
fucking blog/online diary–an emotional outlet. It’s not like it was up for some award or
publication, and how many bad poems do you think there are floating around in
the blogsphere? Also, Palmer has the “donation = love” option at the end of
every blog she posts, she didn’t add that specifically at the end of this post
to cash in on this tradgedy.
Guest

This has got to be the DUMBEST piece of garbage I have read in a long time. Where is your sympathy and compassion for the victims of the bombing? You know, the people that were murdered and injured by your “hero” Dzhokhar and his brother?
- AFPFTW
  
  Please, tell me. Where did she call him a hero?
  - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
    
    She didn’t call him a hero. Trying to make sense of something senseless by trying to get into the head of the perpetrator ISN’T glorification of the crime. It DOESN’T preclude sympathy for the victims. Not at all. She is being what she is – a writer. That is how a writer makes sense of the world. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. You missed the mark, my friend.
    - AFPFTW
      
      Thank you for replying even though I was asking Guest. You made exactly the point I wanted him (or her and everyone else for that matter) to get. She’s not glorifying him or calling him a hero. She just wrote what she was thinking.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        Exactly.
AFPFTW

I SUPPORT AMANDA PALMER.
http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores

In Defense of Amanda Palmer…

A writer reinvents the world to make sense of it, has nothing but words when others stand speechless.

Syllables and syntax where others only have tears.

It is not a sense of superiority. (Oh, but in a way it is – just not in the way you think.)

It is not a glorification of that which cannot ever be glorified.

It is the beauty of taboo and attempted murder of social codes.

And the voices of the speechless cried out not to break the silence, but the words flowed, flowed, flowed.

Bled out and couldn’t stop.

Weren’t meant to stop themselves.

Go back and retrace the trajectory of these words and see if there is not catharsis in the shattered silence.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  So, if I am to understand your verse correctly, it’s “beautiful” to “murder the social code” of being outraged by the shredding of an eight year old boy? I’m very comfortable with the social code of being outraged by child murder, thank you very much. That’s one social code that needn’t be “murdered” (nice choice of words, BTW)
  - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
    
    Dissonance leads to discussion leads to deeper understanding…
    I, too, am outraged by the murder of innocent people.
    I am also outraged by the murder of free speech.
    And I am a fan of murdering the social code that censors people’s free speech through social shaming.
    - Johnny Alpha
      
      What a crock of sh!t. You are trying to convince me that “murder of social codes” means protection of free speech? See comment above for what i think of your accusation that she is being censored. You honestly don’t have any idea what you are talking about do you? No wonder you support Amanda, another person who spews “lyrical” garbage, without having even the most basic rhetorical defense for any of your ignorant opinions.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        You are amusing, Johhny Alpha. I am talking about people like you who can do nothing but jump up and down and get irate and offended over everything that doesn’t fit your worldview. Get over yourself.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        I support anyone who is unafraid to speak his/her mind regardless of the idiots who believe everyone must tiptoe around tough topics to avoid offending someone.
  - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
    
    No, you don’t get it. I am just as outraged as you are over the act of murdering innocent people.
    
    But I am also outraged at the murder of free speech through social shaming. Yes, murder that social code. Please.
    - Johnny Alpha
      
      What are you talking about?! No one here is “murdering” free speech. Everyone is FREE to speak. Free speech doesn’t mean the freedom not to be criticized for that speech. How old are you? Twelve?
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        See my post below. Engaging in dialogue is great. Arguing is great. Shaming people into not speaking their minds or getting all pissed off and trying to silence everything someone says if you don’t agree? Not so great. But thanks for playing. Have a nice day.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        I can’t really help it if you feel ashamed to speak your mind. I thought you might have a little more moxie. You think I’m trying to silence you? You are making the classic rookie mistake of confusing disagreement with an attempt to censor. In fact, I quite enjoy the fact that you keep bloviating fallacies, so please keep speaking. Indeed, debating you is somewhat entertaining, though I can’t say it’s much of a challenge.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        I’m not ashamed to speak my mind. I’m not speaking about myself. It’s the attitude that some people have that they need to shut down anyone with a different perspective. And no – I’m not mistaking disagreement with censorship. Several people on here have called to have her page taken down. That IS censorship. Maybe you haven’t said it but scroll through the comments.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones

If someone kills Palmer for spitting on the dead and mutilated bodies of the Boston victims, I will write a love poem for the killer and even donate money.
And no, I don’t condone violence.
http://www.lolpervs.com/ Daisee Dukes

I prefer the satirical rap I created in the voice of Dzhokhar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbZnkPXubA
turkatron

So far, I think diggingellen is making the most sense, even more so than amanda palmer. I mean I sorta feel embarrassed and sad for her (amanda palmer) because she apparently thought it was a good idea. I say “sorta” because I don’t, This poem is not very good, it’s on par with what I was writing in 7th grade. And possibly today since I’m not a good writer. In fact, I have a poem too…

Poem for Amanda Palmer

You didn’t know you were going to start a shitstorm with a simple poem
Simple minded and naive
You didn’t know that if you picked that pimple on you neck that puss would issue forth and it would crust over
You never learned that being the loudest does not mean you’re the wisest
You didn’t know and it’s not okay

Ehh i can’t be bothered to finish that. Don’t go plagiarizing that now.
Shelley

I dearly love Amanda Palmer’s songwriting, but this is just a lame poem. It’s not paced well,and the images aren’t well chosen or edited enough, so they don’t evoke much. This poem is the equivalent of muddy water to me. It could be a really compelling subject but it’s not executed well. It’s strange how powerful her lyrics can be, and how flat this poem is.
- allaboutAmanda
  
  cuz her lyrics are about her (& she’s all about her) but in this one, she tries to imagine somebody else’s reality. well, narcissists can’t put themselves in someone else’s mind. they lack empathy.
Iloveyouyesyou

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,”
Matthew 5:38-5:44
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002830936475 Frank Jones
  
  What a load of ignorant christian cr$p. All the Christians in the Middle East turned the other cheek to the muslims and now most of them are dead or were forced to leave. If all Christians think like you, soon there won’t be any left.
  - asdf
    
    What, like Christ, you mean?
    Yeah, that guy was nuts.
Mos

Nothing beats a symphony of the self-designated politically correct. Is nobody else underwhelmed by the bombing? If you’re not, maybe you should be: terrorism only works if we’re terrified, or if it gets a reaction out of us. Please don’t attack Amanda, and please don’t argue with one another. Let’s be sorry for the victims and perpetrators of this bombing, but above all let’s not designate ourselves as defenders of the righteous…we’re just a bunch of well-to-dos with internet access.
Nabs

You should make a video of this.
Robbie Zombie

I would have taken this more seriously if you hadn’t pimped donations to yourself on the same page.
http://www.facebook.com/zenbridge Devon Maxwell-Pierce

Perhaps I’m just not getting it, but I’m at a loss to see how anyone can apply these complex motives and emotions to someone we know only as a murderer and a terrorist. It’s nice to believe that someone might not be evil to the core, but to show empathy without understanding is just a shallow action, devoid of any ultimate meaning. It’s a creative free-writing exercise. Which, okay. But what would normally be some prettily worded lyrics on an old LiveJournal account is made somehow more relevant by making it about Dzjokhar. I don’t dismiss this as a piece of writing, but I do think it comes up empty as it pertains to this man, his actions, and his victims.
http://twitter.com/EatDrinkPuff EatDrinkPuff

Wow! My first thought was that this “poem” is a career killer, but after pondering the idea for a bit, I realized that you must have a career to kill. Besides, there are enough terrorist sympathizers out there who will praise this misguided sentiment.
http://twitter.com/EatDrinkPuff EatDrinkPuff

Wow! And at the bottom she asks for money? Would that be considered “funding terrorists”?
- lentower
  
  Default for all her blog pages, and hard to turn off.
  
  Did you see that she also provides donation info for the bombings victims,
  before that?
  
  The link goes to
  
  https://onefundboston.org/
  
  Please click that link and give something to help the victims.
  - Finkdoobiest
    
    Hate to correct you, Len, but a simple CSS rule could have hidden the donation widget on this page, and this page only…
    - lentower
      
      * What appears simple to you, might not be to her IT people.
      You have no idea what their workflow or build procedures are like.
      
      * Amanda pays them. Her call if they should do this extra work.
      
      * Amanda pays for this websight. One of the reasons she asks for donations is to cover those costs. Do you object to advertising on all web sights or just this one?
      
      * Amanda is paying for you to post here. Negativity, hate, etc.
      
      * Have you made a donation to the victims yet?
      - Finkdoobiest
        
        * CSS is a fundamental skill in web development. I don’t mean popular, I mean fundamental. Ubiquitous….And it’s one line, in one file.
        
        * It would take so little time to do it wouldn’t even be billable. Literally 2 mins.
        
        * I object to the initial revision on this particular blog post, which didn’t have a link to the One Fund, just the call to action to give Amanda money.
        
        * Your point being? That this fact should manufacture consent?
        
        * No, I haven’t, because I’m so poor I can’t even afford credit.
girlA27

Why is everyone ignoring this it’s literally right after the poem. Instead of bitching about it how about clicking the link and donating money to Boston. Wow that’s such an attention grabbing thing to do. Caring is so attention seeking.
Click HERE to donate & find additional about The One Fund Boston…
- lentower
  
  “HERE” links to
  
  https://onefundboston.org/
  
  Please click thru and donate something to help the victims.
Johnny Alpha

Speaking of bravery, if Amanda REALLY was brave she would get on her own blog and respond to the criticism, rather than dismissing everyone who happens to disagree her as a “hater”.
- lentower
  
  Why do you insist that Amanda responds in your time frame,
  rather than her’s?
  
  In the past, she has taken some time, and then posted a new blog
  that responds to what has happened.
  
  This reaches more people, and provides a better response.
  
  So, be patient.
- Garrigan
  
  This was both tweeted by a fox news contributor and discussed about live on Fox news… Amanda has been completely inundated by an insane number of trolls, online harassment, and death threats on her blog, twitter– you know, the usual. Good old internet.
  The smart thing to do right now is to wait for it all to die down before she makes any more comments. If she adds fuel to the fire right now it’ll just get crazy.
  - http://www.facebook.com/lotusfilms Jason Triplett
    
    Oh, blame it on Fox News, you Obama loving left wing leech.
    
    Did I do that right?
    - Garrigan
      
      Perfectly. It was both vitriolic AND irrational. Bravo.
  - Johnny Alpha
    
    In haven’t seen any personal threats in any of the places you mentioned. If Amanda exploits the viral aspect of the “good old internet” to support her persona (when it’s her friend), then she should stand up when it gets a little hot for her (when it’s her foe). She can’t have it only one way.
    - Garrigan
      
      Oh for God’s sake. She hasn’t deleted her page and flounced off. She’s waiting for the heat to die down a little before she makes a statement. It’s only been a day. Take a pill.
DeceivingBog

I’m not sure everyone is understanding the meaning of this. Of course this is subjective; everything in life is. Amanda explained what she thought ran through his mind, the perceived transformation from kid to monster, the shortcomings and self-doubt, the nagging thoughts that stay in your mind for days, and the sheer panic of “What the fuck did I do?”. Anytime these things happen, people want two things: blood and an explanation. We have the blood, and we will certainly have more, but we may never know the why. I, in no way, feel sorry for him. He knew the difference between right and wrong, but he still decided to place a homemade bomb next to an 8-year-old among thousands and thousands of people. He doesn’t deserve sympathy, but empathy and sympathy are not synonyms. If we don’t have understanding, things like this will keep happening. And they are still happening. Every. Fucking. Day. Stop being outraged by a misunderstood poem and start being outraged by the world we live in now.
- garrigan
  
  YES! THIS!
http://www.facebook.com/GarrettSW2203 Garrett Watson

Fuck him, may he and his brother burn in hell, Can’t wait until he gets the death penalty
.
http://twitter.com/tgimacb tgimacb

Irony “don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot “
CrusadaB

Oh and by the way, send money. Capitalist.
- lentower
  
  Default for all her blog pages, and why turn it off?
  Amanda pays to run this web sight.
  Do you object to advertising on other web sights?
  
  Did you see that she also provides donation info for the bombings victims,
  before that?
  
  The link goes to
  
  https://onefundboston.org/
  
  Please click that link and give something to help the victims.
  - CrusadaB
    
    Not a dime for her or the bombing victims…at least not on her website. Commies make money by leaching off others. Get a real job Amanda and pay taxes like the rest of us. Poems? Pffft!
    - lentower
      
      Amanda has a real job, that she loves, and does pay her taxes.
      
      Donate elsewhere, perhaps directly at the websight:
      
      https://onefundboston.org/
      
      Or do you just want to put words of negativity on the Internet,
      and not help the victims in Boston and elsewhere?
      - CrusadaB
        
        I’ve been reading your words of negativity and I understand your anger. Help the victims of Boston and elsewhere? Boston yes, but elsewhere…where is elsewhere and what victims am I donating to? I could coexist with you…could you with me?
      - lentower
        
        I’m not angry. I’m sad.
        
        I don’t see my words here as negative.
        
        It’s up to you which victims you support.
        There are more in the world than either of us will ever be able to help.
      - CrusadaB
        
        And your response to Angela shows me you live on the left coast on the east side of the U.S. If you went inland a bit you might take that back. Every body knows the heart of America is in the heart of America…in the middle.
      - lentower
        
        Anyone who starts a sentence with “Everyone knows …” is someone you can’t have rational discussion with.
        
        I hope you gain in compassion, empathy, and sympathy as you go on.
      - CrusadaB
        
        Everybody knows people who correct other are often lacking the same thing in themselves…can’t even get sarcasm.
      - lentower
        
        1) This is why smiley faces were invented. e.g. : – )
        
        2) Poor taste to blame others for your poor writing.
      - CrusadaB
        
        Whynyou so dumb?
http://twitter.com/AnneArque Lucy Gibson

“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss
people.”
Eleanor
Roosevelt
Keith

I enjoy poetry. Well, good poetry. This is awful. Obviously it’s “shocking” so I’m pretty sure that’s what you were trying to do, but sheesh, at least be a bit better at it. And hey, I guess he didn’t know the way to New York but he sure knew the way to lethal injection.
SakhmetIsFedUp

Thanks so much for mentioning New York. We already had a horror for the century here…
http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores

As a writer, I feel the need to defend this move as something writers do. I’ve done it myself. After the 2000 factory shooting in Attleboro, I actually wrote and performed several times a poem from the perspective of the shooter. I assumed people would understand that it was meant to be literary – a way to make sense of the senseless. This is what a writer does. You can be disgusted by a crime and still want to pick it apart and get into the head of the perpetrator. Writers do this all the time. In all honesty, I think Ms. Palmer’s poem is brilliant and does not glorify the crime at all. Rather she is being what she is – a writer making sense of the world. It is what I do all the time so I get it. I get it completely.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1235397 Leah Cleary

It is curious how people continue to believe that there are simply evil people in the world that do evil things just because they are evil. That there is not a yin and yang to life. Nobody wants to think that their child, brother, sister, parent, friend is the next to crack under the pressure of this world. Fear turns to anger, anger turns to hate, and so on. If we don’t want to except that every one feels hurt, mistreated, or underrepresented in the world, if we don’t want to empathize with someone because we are against their actions, we are never going to be able to fix this.

“Peace, Love, and Harmony. Very nice, very nice, very nice, but maybe in the next world.” – The Smiths
- WarmMetaphysics
  
  So you think anger and hurt feelings are the only things that breed violence? People that hurt and kill are not all the same. Some begin torturing animals as children, some start their acts of violence later in life, but they aren’t all mistreated, wounded people that just didn’t get hugged enough when they were kids. You’re oversimplifying human beings. One thing I know for sure, violence will never end. Not because society isn’t coddling everyone enough, but because that IS how humans are. We are never going to be a bunch of enlightened Buddhas that never hurt or kill any other living creature. Sorry to burst your naive bubble.
  - lentower
    
    But this is no reason not to try and lesson the hurt in the world.
    To not try to respect every person.
    
    To paraphase what Walt Kelley had Pogo say:
    
    If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
    - WarmMetaphysics
      
      Did I say that there was no reason not try to lessen (not lesson) the violence in the world? No. It will never be completely eradicated, though. One thing that might help is not painting a sympathetic portrait of a guy who just committed a horrible atrocity. I think the fact that her poem was badly received is a good sign that people aren’t deluded bleeding hearts that are easily swayed by a celebrity’s narcissistic poem and that there is hope for the world. I’d be more worried if people weren’t outraged by the cruelty that the two brothers displayed in Boston. So what part are you playing in the solution? Are you vegan? Are you saving lives? Are you helping people? Or are you just being sanctimonious because it makes you feel better about yourself?
      - lentower
        
        You weren’t clear about lessening violence.
        Don’t blame others for your writing shortcomings.
        
        Write better.
        
        Stop caring about non-important spelling errors.
        This is a blog, not English 101.
        
        Been vegan over 50 years.
        Ready to save lives. CPR and First Aid trained.
        Been helping people for over 60 years.
        Worked mostly for non-profits.
        Volunteer a lot.
        Been an activist director (lot’s of hours and responsibility)
        for several non-profits.
        
        How about you?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Philip/591615305 Michael Philip
  
  I live on the same planet as people who revel in the destruction, maiming and murder of innocents- who could calmly and patiently plan an attack that will blow up men, women and children- and sleep soundly at night. To empathize with such creatures is not the way to fix
http://twitter.com/MDesmadril Michaël Desmadril

Someone needs attention….If this is your only way to have success…I would suggest you to search for another job!His brother got shot…i’m happy! Pitty they aren’t dead both! No empathy for these kind of people! Not in 2013!!!
- bill lignos
  
  I agree Michael, slap a pressure cooker on t that mother f#ckers balls and blew his jihad ass to f#ckin krgystan
Poem Newbie

Wow, so many comments! I’m trying to read them all.

I’m just a beginner at all this, but I did notice that the “poem” above doesn’t rhyme. Was that on purpose? Because I’m pretty sure poems have to rhyme.
- lentower
  
  Poems do not have to rhyme.
  
  See the article on “Free verse” on Wikipedia.
  - Maus Merryjest
    
    Why do it the hard way when you can just slap pretension on a shingle and call it art?
    
    Those without much to say
    
    gab about it all the fricking day—
    
    If brevity is the soul of wit
    
    Brother, sure as hell this isn’t it!
    - lentower
      
      Rhyming doesn’t necessarily add much to a poem.
      
      Among other pluses, Amanda’s poem above is sophisticated, multi-layered, and ambiguous (full of multiple meanings and points of view).
      All of which are aspects of good poetry and good art.
      
      If you can’t see that, that’s the way it is.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  You are not a newbie, you’re a Moby. Nice try.
http://www.facebook.com/sueotk2001 Susan Kohler

Poorly written attempt to sound intelligent and compassionate, a failure.
Al

The first time I read this poem, I thought about Dzhokhar. The second time I read it, I thought about myself.
http://twitter.com/shereensunrise Shereen Lisa Dudar

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-mr-michael-rogers-sj/dear-dzhokhar-i-cant-hate-you_b_3128805.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
- SakhmetIsFedUp
  
  Lovely. Thank you dear
- SakhmetIsFedUp
  
  I’m serious. It is a beautiful piece and I wouldn’t have known about it otherwise. Again, Thank you , Dear.
EmpatheticCritic

I really don’t care whose side AFP is on. I don’t care if she’s empathizing with terrorists. Empathy is great. We could all use more of it. I care that this is really, truly horrible poetry. It can be excused, of course. T.S. Elliot wrote “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock,” which brings me to tears every time; but he also wrote Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats, which features one of the most stunningly terrible lines of poetry ever written: “A cat is not a dog.”

I’ve defended Amanda Palmer for years when others laughed and called her a melodramatic, self-important poser. I could justify it because she writes some damn good songs, but this? This is just her “Old Possum.”

Here’s something I’ve learned before I send a piece of writing out for public consumption: (a) I make every piece of it as tight and as perfect as possible. Are there inconsistencies? I fix them. Is something cliched? I work to make it my own. (b) I find writers who are very good, and I workshop my piece with them. I take everything they have to say into consideration. If there are repeated criticisms of a certain part of the text, I rewrite it. (c) I stuff the piece into a drawer and do not look at it for at least two weeks. After that long, I’ve distanced myself enough from it that I can be at least somewhat objective when I make repairs. I can kill my darlings entirely remorselessly. It’s only after multiple edits that I actually submit pieces.

I suggest this to anyone who plans to have their work in the public eye. It’s a totally valid life choice to write shitty poetry, and it is a life choice I support one hundred percent. But people are bastards and they will mock you so hard when they discover that semi-emo eighth grade vogue poetry you’re writing in your thirties. Leave the shitty poetry in a shoe box in the back of a closet. Let your kids laugh at it when you’re dead.
- WarmMetaphysics
  
  You cry reading “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock??” Hahahahahaa. It’s not supposed to be sad! It’s supposed to be funny!
  - EmpatheticCritic
    
    Sorry, darling, when exactly did you do your master’s thesis on Elliot?
    - Butter
      
      I think you’ll find it’s spelled T.S. Eliot. One would think you would know this, having done a ~master’s thesis~, darling.
      - EmpatheticCritic
        
        I’m sorry my phone autocorrects to my nephew’s name, darling.
      - EmpatheticCritic
        
        The end story is that this is just a very, very bad poem. I’m not offended by the content, but it honestly reads like an eighth grade language arts project. I don’t give a shit if AFP or you or my next door neighbor or anyone on earth decides to write terrible poetry, but I think it’s ludicrous that people are coming out of the woodwork to defend this. If Amanda Palmer wants to be seen as an artist–and a good one at that–she should take a minute to reconsider before she puts a poem so magnificent in its horribleness up on her blog. As it is, it just seems like another cry for attention, controversy, and publicity. And lookie, she got what she wanted. Congrats to her and her minions.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1016717466 Pablo Romero

Never has so much been said
about one who deserves so little,
such empty grandiloquence, all too brittle,
to soften the killer and betray the dead.

There is nothing so vile
as those who fear to declare
the existence of good or evil fare:
They the innocent defile.
fuckurself

Oh look, another reason why Amanda Palmer sucks..
P. Romero

Never has so much been said
about one who deserves so little,
such empty grandiloquence, all too brittle,
to soften the killer and betray the dead.

There is nothing so vile
as those who fear to declare
the existence of good or evil fare:
They the innocent defile.
http://www.facebook.com/brandyrc1 Brandy Reynolds Collins

“you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway.”

Some people run their knees into the ground because their legs were blown off. Conratulations on getting some publicity on their backs.
http://www.facebook.com/shane.kroll Shane Reagan Kroll

How about a poem about an eight year old boy, who will never be nine, whose body was torn to pieces! Sacrificed on Islams alter. Amanda I really wish that it had been you standing there in front of your new boyfriends bomb, instead of that sweet little boy. That’s a trade everyone could support. You disgusting twat. That can be your next poem, ” why I’m a disgusting twat” by Amanda Palmer. I like how you added the donation for Boston link, if you really want to help out, you could open a booth in Boston, and charge people $50 to slap you in the face! With all proceeds going to the one fund. You could raise a million bucks over night. Step right up folks only $50 bucks to slap the jihad loving,Talentless, hippy, whore, step right up, no pushing.
http://www.facebook.com/rick198911 Rick Thomas

You are a fucking cunt
WarmMetaphysics

This is embarrassing… the form, the “all about me” mentality, the romanticizing of someone who just killed and maimed lots of people. This reveals nothing; this is not deep. This isn’t controversial because it reveals something profound about humanity like many of her supporters keep saying, it is just a publicity grab. It’s sad, pathetic, and meaningless. I was a fan for many years, but now I think that time has come to an end. I know this isn’t the same thing as a bombing, but I had a scary situation with a neighbor who was attacked late at night by a guy with a gun. I helped her before he killed her, and now he is in jail. It would make me want to vomit if someone used him as inspiration for a poem. Maybe if you witnessed obscene violence firsthand, you would know it’s not romantic. It’s sick and sad and all the bad things you experienced make you feel so hollow. It’s not something you trivialize with a lovey-dovey poem that sounds like it was written by a third grader. Using this as a way to get publicity (it’s obvious you’re trolling) is abhorrent. Go ahead and lump me in with the “unenlightened haters.” I’d hate for honest criticism to ever get through to the people that blindly follow anything that comes out of a celebrity’s mouth or is labeled “art.” This is one of the many reasons why I have no heroes.
jef everhart

I am forever entirely more dumb for wasting 1 minute of my time reading such trash. You should have been on that rode and maimed and then we could all see how ‘emphatic’ you are…
bill lignos

my name is Amanda palmr, i wrote poems for Jeffrey dahmer, i smoke lots of crack rock, and suck a mean c#ck, my eyebrows look pretty queer, like a wild boars fuckin rear, i have no respect for mankind, writing dumb poems all of the time. please donate money to Amanda fuckin palmer cuz if it was a nickel to shit, this cheap broad wouldn’t even fart!
Jeanette

Such a waste of time for all who bother to read it. Then to find a donation request at the bottom, now I am not so clueless. In all the world you had nothing else to wax poetic about, yuck.
one f

I am forever more dumb for wasting a minute of my life to read such trash. Its too bad you were not on the rode and brutally maimed then the world could truly see how profound your ‘empathy’ would be…
- Guest
  
  Actually there was also a donation link for The 1 Fund Boston. Why is everyone overlooking that link? It is the one that appears first.
myclawismypenis

You received alot of traffic from this shit poem. Now, lets see you and Neil give to the victims.
- Rage
  
  One Fund donation link, right at the end of the poem. Where everyone is going.
Dream

To me this is a series of broken thoughts that ultimately are nonsensical together, but that is how the mind works, even in evil people. You have a 19 year old kid who by all accounts to friends was an Americanized Muslim who couldn’t break free from his family’s(brother’s) radical beliefs and then allowed himself to make some seriously disturbing decisions. A bad decision doesn’t make someone evil, no matter how many other people the decision effects. He became evil when he allowed himself to repeat those mistakes over the course of a couple of days, as scared as he was, he had the ability to lay down and surrender and he chose not to, inflicting further fear and terror on a city. A city that Amanda has shown time and again that she loves and respects. By writing this poem, in my opinion, she is releasing her own feelings and fears over the past few days, writing can heal, it can be powerful. It can bring out the raw emotion that so many choose to bottle and I think her goal was to get the people who read the poem to lash out, to release that fear and anger at a safe target, a poem. She’s also an incredibly strong person who put herself out there to become a target, knowing that many would lash out at the writer and not just the words. She put out controversial words, not for attention, in my opinion, but to allow people an outlet for their feelings that they so often will hide and bottle up and stew on. If that was her goal, she succeeded. I have to admit that reading it made me angry, I didn’t even realize it was making me angry until I finished reading it. Then I read the comments and immediately thought “This isn’t me, this is him, this is the type of person that can allow themselves to follow through with a decision to cause harm to another person.” It was pure anger and hatred of a viewpoint that I didn’t want to hear or understand. It evoked the emotion behind a radical, someone filled with hatred for something they don’t agree with who would lash out with threats and violence as many of those who have commented have done. If you were hateful, cruel or said anything violent towards Amanda for her words, congrats, you just looked at the world through the eyes of someone with a radical belief system.
one f

Now that’s a poem! Amen, sister.
Nick

I support what you’ve written. Beautiful and hurtful words indeed. Pain was the only thing felt during this tragedy besides the brave that saved so many lives. This being your stomping grounds, and my home at heart, the moment they splattered this news all over the radio, internet, and television, the world suddenly cared. How many really paid attention to the Marathon before this act of selfishness? Just like past horrific accidents.. Colorado theater shooting, Newtown, CT shootings, Columbine.. the list goes on forever. The sad part is, is that these people who committed these acts were people, just like all of us. Were they heard? Did someone care for them? Not taking their side here, but we all have a voice. And the beauty of this life is that we have a right to use it. If you don’t agree with what is said by one, don’t criticize because it’s different from the way you feel. Just move on. She obviously is mourning the destruction of her Boston streets. Let her mourn in the way she chooses. You have no power to take that freedom away from her. One love.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  That’s so beautiful…fluffy rainbow bunny rabbits sentimentality for people who blow the legs off of little girls. How sweet . How quaint. Yes, you’re right, we are all JUST like them. There’s no difference between a guy who packs nails and metal shards into remote controlled bombs meant for children, and you and I, who groom the mains on our snow white unicorns as the light twinkles through the crystal formations of our mother earth. One love.
http://www.facebook.com/GarcianSmith891 Logan Stallings

I just wish I knew what an objectively bad poem was, conceptually.

I’m not sure there is one, as long as it’s not dishonest and follows within whatever parameters and styles that the artist consents to.
I think we all write some things that don’t sound great. Maybe this reads better off the page. I’m not sure it matters. Not everything gets a workshop.

But even if you think a poem is bad, I think there is something to be gleamed from it. Right? Kudos to everyone taking part in a productive discourse. Continue doing art, Amanda.
MeAndMyCharms

Wow. I can’t believe the negative reaction this has caused. It is reminding me so much of what The Dixie Chicks went through a while back. They turned it into an amazing documentary. It’s up in 7 parts on youtube, and it really is worth a look..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btN6ZqBlyGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKZ8nWAuHC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbd_bmbz1r0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl1p57Hh9QQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjoJvVuVvas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6tH90Yix0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4zXyYgBNA8
Triinu Meres

I love it =)
I kinda love you too for it.

Damn brave, woman! Damn brave. =)
- Johnny Alpha
  
  No, the brave people are the people who had their legs blown off and the first responders who ripped their own clothes apart to make tourniquets. The brave are the parents of the eight year old boy facing a future without their son, even though hipster “songwriters” prefer to empathize with the man who stole the light of their lives. It doesn’t take bravery to cough up an ill-considered so-called poem on your own blog and then sit back and avoid defending your own words, while people lie in hospital beds, maimed. It’s easy, and entirely banal to locate the alternative viewpoint so as to make yourself appear to matter again. It’s easy and banal to cry persecution when normal, rational people take issue with your self serving and thoughtless sentiments. No. Not a lot of bravery here. Mostly the regurgitation of the impulse to be different and edgy, victims be damned.
  - Triinu Meres
    
    You don’t haveto be brave to get your legs blown off. Honestly, it’s rarely planned event and if it is, I kinda think those people are idiots.
    Also, to go and help someone hurt, if you are nearby, is normal thing to do, not something especially brave. If you were unlucky enough to be in the wrong place, you would probably be this kind of hero too. I know I would (of course, I’m a nurse myself, so it would be my moral duty anyway, even if I weren’t normally kind person who thinks hepling others is normal.)
    
    But to go and write something in your blog that will most certainly bring on the shitstorm – that needs some decisive courage.
    - Johnny Alpha
      
      No. That needs decisive…stupidity. It’s super easy to create a shitstorm. All’s you have to be is an insensitive jerk, something that seems to come easy to Ms. Palmer.
susy

ummm why are you writing a poem about someone who killed three people? Is this for real?
Mara

What makes me sick isthe responses to this. We are all humans and we have all sinned and none of is have any right judge someone else, no matter how horrible the actions. It’s scary when we give ourselves the right to call someone evil.
I agree the actions were awful, the innocent deaths ,even more so.
Stil the beauty of art is the connection of the thread of humanity in each of us. It’s beautiful to be able to see or imagine the human emotion of a person, to see beyond the actions.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  What do you mean we have no right to judge someone? We have every right to judge someone who slaughters little children. That’s what morality is. The determination of what is right and wrong. Are you people so warped that you can’t even say that killing children is wrong? The image of a maimed little girl is what should make you sick, not that some people actually have amoral backbone, unlike yourself.
  - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
    
    So you think running your mouth about how moral you are gives you a backbone? No. It doesn’t. You think people who don’t spout the same rhetoric you do don’t believe it’s wrong to kill children? Of course it is wrong to kill children. Not one person so far has said it wasn’t. Everyone is sickened by the image of the injured people. But not everyone runs around saying how morally superior they are because they are regurgitating the proper rhetoric for the moment. That dubious honor belongs to you.
    - Johnny Alpha
      
      On the contrary, and ironically, it’s Amanda and yourself who claim moral superiority by peacocking superhuman compassion and empathy for EVEN the likes of
      
      Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, while the rest of us are simply retributive bloodthirsty Neanderthals responding to our baser instincts. Nice try though.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        No, I am not. I have not said that I have “superhuman compassion and empathy.” Quite frankly I really don’t have empathy for the bomber. But I HAVE been defending what Amanda does in the poem – the right to express an unpopular point of view, to express a perspective that might be offensive to others. We can’t walk around all our lives worrying about who will be offended by what we say. Someone always will.
        Your moral superiority is in your inability to accept another person’s expressing a point of view that you find offensive. And the only way you can attack her choice of artistic subject matter is by positing YOURSELF as somehow morally superior and more in touch with the needs of the victims. But nice try to YOU, my friend.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        I have never once questioned her right to express her point of view. I completely accept her use of poetry to express herself. I am merely saying what you have JUST SAID YOURSELF: her point of view is unpopular and it is offensive to others…it’s very offensive. And yes, I don’t accept it because it is offensive. That’s what I’ve been trying to say. I’m glad we have finally come to an agreement on this subject.
      - http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
        
        Well, then at least you are more reasonable than the people calling to have her page taken down, saying she should have been killed in the bombings, etc. There are plenty of those nutjobs on here. You have the right to feel offended. She has the right to offend you. You have the right offend her. Yes, on that front we are solidly in agreement.
        Freedom of speech does entail argument and arguments are good because they force people to think. God forbid we should only allow people with one perspective to speak. And that is where I’m going with the whole line on breaking down social codes. No one should be told they can’t say something because someone, somewhere might be offended. Someone, somewhere always WILL be.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        What “social code” are you referring to that says its OK for people to infringe on other peoples freedom of speech? I don’t know of that “code”. The social code I DO know of is the one in the constitution that guarantees freedom of speech.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        What “social code” are you referring to that says its OK for people to infringe on other peoples freedom of speech? I don’t know of that “code”. The social code I DO know of is the one in the constitution that guarantees freedom of speech.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        What “social code” are you referring to that says its OK for people to infringe on other peoples freedom of speech? I don’t know of that “code”. The social code I DO know of is the one in the constitution that guarantees freedom of speech.
      - Johnny Alpha
        
        What “social code” are you referring to that says its OK for people to infringe on other peoples freedom of speech? I don’t know of that “code”. The social code I DO know of is the one in the constitution that guarantees freedom of speech.
Paige

Why are you people so offended? He was a human being with human thoughts no matter what you try to tell yourselves. She’s not saying “let him go”, she’s not saying “oh poor him”. She’s pointing out that you can’t lie to yourselves and try to pretend everything is black and white. Nobody is either a man or a monster, that’s all… every man has a monster inside of them, and every monster has a shred of humanity. Nobody wakes up every single morning of every single day totally evil. Nobody lives their entire life trying to do the most hurtful thing they can to everyone they meet. Including this kid. Sometimes you want to punch that customer who’s treating you like shit, but sometimes you take a dollar out of your wallet because some kid was a little short. Sometimes you behave like a monster, but that does not make you a constant monster, you just happened to be one at that time. Life is not as simple as an action flick.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  What do you mean every man had a monster inside of them? Thinking for a second about punching a customer, and spending months perfecting how to put nails and metal shards into a bomb so that it more violently rips human flesh ARE NOT THE SAME THING. Your attempt at drawing moral equivalence is putrid. Most people do not have “monsters inside of them” that cause them build child killing remote control bombs. You are so reluctant to ascribe personal responsibility to a clearly immoral act that you don’t even put it in terms of a person BEING A MONSTER, but rather as people being possessed BY a monster. People are so offended because child killers should be condemned, not coddled, out of respect for the victims, who received not a single mention in Amanda’s “compassionate” poem. You would know that if you used your brain for one second, so I wouldn’t have to explain it to you.
  - Paige
    
    I use the word monster to express the part of a person that feels the need to hurt someone else. On any scale, whether I want to punch somebody, or whether I want to kill somebody. He deserves to be punished, I never, not once, said that he does not. He made a choice to unleash his monster and hurt another person. You’re making a choice to unleash your monster and hurt another person by trying to insult me, simply because you’re upset. He should be punished for not being able to control himself. He did something horrible, does that mean that he is not a human?
    
    *Saying he is a human being is not the same thing as saying he should be released from custody immediately and given a blanket and cocoa*
    
    Also she does mention the victims, right at the end of the poem is a link to donate to the ONE FUND.
    - Johnny Alpha
      
      Yes, he’s a human being. An evil human being. OK. Let’s all write poems “For Jerry Sandusky” then, and maybe one of the little boys he raped will read it and feel a little better about understanding the mind and motivations of a pedophile. And we can all congratulate ourselves, and announce it to the world, that we are so loving and so compassionate that we can even rise above the crime of a child rape, and in so doing, the phenomena of child rape will disappear into the glowing mist of loving kindness. Let’s all do that next.
      - Paige
        
        You’re threatened by empathy. You’re confused and you’re afraid and you’re angry. Why did so many innocent people have to die? Why did this fucker snap? Why did he hate us so much? It makes you pissed off, it makes me pissed off, it makes me want to snap his fucking neck.
        
        But breathe, and think, and question. Fight past your rage and sink into your own thoughts.
        
        How does somebody go from being a normal kid to a horrible fucking murderer? How can you wake up one day and be okay with doing something like this?
        Don’t you see? We’re asking the same questions. Nobody is making a case that what happened was acceptable. We’re wondering how someone can lack empathy in a moment like that. It might not make anything better, but it won’t make anything worse. We can vent in our own ways. Some write poems and some write angry comments on poems.
Paige

Empathy should not be thought of as a reward, it should be thought of as a basic form of human cognition.
Paige

Art is creating something that makes somebody else experience strong emotion. It shares part of who you are with someone else. Look at all of these emotions. This is what art is all about.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  So, by that definition you could call the bombers artists, and their bombs art. Nice.
  - Paige
    
    If you would like to call it that, that’s a little disturbing of you though Johnny. Maybe you should get some exercise and some sleep? Try finding someone to cuddle?
Iceman

What did I just read?
Life must have been a little slow.
Hey, didn’t you use to be?
Irrelevance soon to follow
Do not be shy
Ask him out
You know the way to the police station
You know the way to the police station
You know the way to the police station
You know the way to the police station
ReadingThatHurtMyBrain

I can’t believe I’m fucking reading this.
I saw the link and tried to stay my hand.
Amanda Palmer? NO! It’s such a miss!
With all the English language at command

You called forth words like troops on foreign land
And slaughtered them with such impunity.
Their syllables, killed in a poem bland,
Graceless, formless, learned atrocity.

What answer you for this monstrosity?
You call it art, and claim that it’s not hard.
Not hard, no: impotent–not worth the pity
My empathy seeks for you, so-called bard.

This poem seeks to insult injury,
So let’s get you publicity–now hurry.

I call this one “Amanda’s Latest Marketing Ploy.” It took ten minutes and a thousand times as much thought than the horror show above.
- ReadingThatHurtMyBrain
  
  Oh, I forgot, please donate your moneys so I can continue writing sonnets.
http://twitter.com/HuntersKiss Mandi

Would you like the song “Sing” if it were titled “children shooting children”? Its clearly not about that, but its in the song. That’s what this poem makes me think of.Some of you see the title and instantly your minds are made up without reading a single word the poem is shit. And …its clearly not about that. It sounds like some lines are parallel to our lives. Who can’t relate to trying to get away from their parents? BUT, some of us hate which is clearly showed in this blog. Its turned in to Lord of the Flies.
Guest

Somebody take this sow’s site down
- http://www.facebook.com/tabetha.bernsteindanis Tabetha Dolores
  
  Take the site down? Why? Because you don’t agree? So what happens to freedom of speech? Or should we take down that amendment, too?
- SMH
  
  the poem is regretable. taking her right to say that which is regretable puts us closer to the 2 evil brothers who committed this cowardly, hateful act.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcos-Garcia/518387793 Marcos Garcia

What garbage.

You don’t know how to write “poetry”

Stick your head back in the liberal trough, sow.
HoustonGauchoGirl

Click HERE to donate & find additional about . . . SHOULD READ: find additional information Regarding ‘The One Fund Boston’ . . . If you can put together a few poetic thoughts and Post them somewhere, you should at LEAST be able to get ONE PHRASE correct . . . I’m Just Saying ??!!
Guest

“You know, an infinite number of monkeys in an infinite amount of time could type out the complete works of Shakespeare. Your poem? Three monkeys, ten minutes.”
-Dilbert
- Rage
  
  Monkeys are so smart.
- Guest
  
  Thje quality of mercy is not stre ained
http://www.facebook.com/stephen.tibbitts.9 Stephen Tibbitts

you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.??
… he drove right over the almost dead lifeless body
do you think he ever wonders if his brother would have been able to have been saved if he didn’t run him, or you think he just does not care, as long as he got away that is all that mattered?
toni

YOU are a moron!
unkle

kinda the Fox News of poems- not very good and getting a lot of attention.

Nothing wrong with the subject matter, everything is fair game in poems, it’s just not a technically sound or surprising poem, very heavy-handed, and ends by beating you over the head with melodrama. I’d expect this from a high school student.
http://twitter.com/angryinqueens NoWay

Yikes. This is horrible. You need to find a new career and pull your head out of your ass. This “boy” murdered four people including an 8 year old child and a police officer. You suck.
http://www.facebook.com/paul.collier.3517 Paul Collier

From a Christian perspective, Jesus tells us to ‘love your enemies’. The greatest witness we can sometimes give to our faith, our love for Christ is two things- loving those who hate us, who hurt us, who even kill us, and praising God and thanking Him for opportunities to demonstrate the strength of our faith by doing so when we suffer hardships of many kinds. I don’t think this poem is an excuse for the evil this young man carried out, but simply a humanizing contemplation of a man who would be driven to kill.
deegeejay

you don’t know how selfish you are until you run over and drag your own brother just to escape for a few more hours.
Mary Cusack

You forgot some phrases
you don’t know what it’s like to run beside your girlfriend one day and have stumps in a flash.
you don’t know what itls like to celebrate your son’s holy communion and in a flash see him rise above the clouds to be in communion with the creator.

just sayin’ not hatin
Karenindixie

Too soon, too much, and sympathy for a terrorist. Yes, he is ONLY 19. That didn’t stop him from killing at will. Why? We may never know. Sympathy? Hell NO!
philthy alfred

I write better poems when I’m not writing.
Fanintheattic

The pity about all this is that as a stunt to increase ones own over inflated perception of ones own celiberty the posting of this poem has been an astounding success. As a poem and the supposed message it conveys it is not a complete failure if we accept that the underlying concept is what can I do to “shock” and as I stated above bolster ones own ego.
Doug Wexler

this is embarrassing and gay.
http://www.facebook.com/jamesfreilly James F. Reilly

Why do you keep begging people for money? You’re married to fucking Neil Gaiman, for god’s sake. You asking us to support your art is like Paris Hilton asking us to give her the seed money to start a hotel. Ask your husband for the money and piss off already.
Amber Shea

I quite enjoyed it, it gave me chills. Thank you for sharing it.
Unbelieber

Amanda, you are the epitome of an attention whore. you use the precious blood shed of the innocent, seeing within their pain and their horror an opportunity to splash yourself across every major news channel. You’re an unapologizing, pathetic hack masquerading as a sort of bitch-poet. With joy in my heart, I return to the days where you were Amanda… WHO????

You mean nothing, You are nothing, You aren’t worthy of the breath it takes to say your name.
http://www.facebook.com/michael.ryle1 Michael Ryle

She says it took her 9 minutes to write it. Reading the poem I’m surprised it took her that long. Literature.
emily_ts90

I love this poem. It’s honest, without being pretentious. It captures the limitations of the human mind and how a sense of injustice can lead us awry. At least that’s how I interpreted it.
- jennifer626
  
  You thought this wasn’t pretentious? Wow, I need to go check my Webster’s again.
http://www.facebook.com/leah.busby.52 Leah Busby

As Dr. Seuss put it, “A person’s a person, no matter how small”… I’m sure it’s safe to say that this quote can be applied to a small or large heart.. Thank you for encouraging sympathy and understanding to the perpetrators of the disaster. Hate is not the answer.
- SMH
  
  even though Dzjackoff thought it was
Dubarnik

Each of us has to express our feelings about this tragedy in a way that fits our personality and our sensitivities. Most of us choose nothing more complicated than talking around the water cooler. Other choose to pray or, perhaps, cry. But Amanda Palmer wrote a poem. I’m sure others have also written poems, but Amanda has a website that she uses to share her creativity with her many fans. I’m glad she did. I would like to add one more line to her poem: you don’t know and you never will.
http://www.facebook.com/bjorn.h.visser Bjorn Herman Visser

what scares me is that people have taken this poem and turned it into something against Amanda personally, attacking her marriage to a successful author, attacking her business strategies and how she remains in the public eye etc, when in reality they should have, if they felt the need to, be attacking the poem. If you feel the need to attack anything, try to attack the love for destruction we all seem to have inside of us, attack the thing that breaks in our minds or hearts and turns us from people to killers. Don’t attack someone because you don’t agree with what they said, how they interpret something? because that doesn’t make you an intellectual or a warrior or whatever you believe, it makes you just another asshole hiding behind a computer. A come from a country with a past ten shades darker than we know, where rape and murder are the headlines coming from your neighbors, but also a country where art has been used to thousands of years to deal with things. and thats exactly what this is, how Amanda deals with situations. Some of us paint, some drink, some write, some dance, some shout at chairs and some of us creep into the duvets and watch sad movies when we feel upset. Don’t attack someone for how they deal with trauma or shock or sadness or joy or whatever. Be kind to each other, being a prick to someone because of a poem isn’t going to fix what happened. stop sending your anger and hate into the universe, its all that shit that clogs in our minds and turns innocent children into a violent people. <3
ilikedthispoem

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out over this poem. The only thing everyone is truly freaked out about is the title. I think the problem with this poem is that people are having difficulty looking beyond their own grief to see themselves in the eyes of Dzjokhar, they don’t want to believe that he could be human. And yes, you couldn’t possibly know what he was thinking/feeling, but that doesn’t make your attempt at empathy invalid.
lola

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read
Adam

I love the peom.
I believe everyone is human, whether they have a disorder or not. Whether they are at the end of the gun or the one holding it.
I believe the person who abused the love of my life is still human, though it makes me mad to think about it. I believe the person who betrayed my trust is still human, though she made me not like humans as much.
In the end, we are all human together.
I think this poem because it shows the humanness even in a killer.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1277158389 Jenny M. Witcher

i’m a mom. every time something like this happens, regardless of the motivation (which none of us can know, just as we can’t know what motivated good guys like Plato, Maimonides, Rousseau, Jefferson, or AFP, even if they can/do explain themselves), i can’t help but feel a tidal wave of sorrow for the perpetrator and the perpetrator’s mom. because of that sorrow, i start to imagine what they might have been thinking — what their true motivation might have been — what experience or image or promise might have driven the actor to act. so, yeah, i guess i’m humanizing them when i do that.

like i said, i’m a mom. i worship my boys. i turn myself inside out everyday trying to make them future citizens that are moral, thoughtful, positively active, and just. does that mean they will be? how can i know? what if some experience or image or promise drives them to be something other than what i imagine for them? what if one of them hurts a person or many persons? if that happens, i hope that someone will humanize him and me and try, in some way, to have compassion for my baby and his mama. if we try and fail, at least we tried.
Monty Patton Churchill

it would behoove you to remember the cost of the freedom that you so selfishly squander when you shoot your mouth off. You should be on the front lines, operation human shield, so your life for once can actually matter and yes, even you can make a true, meaningful difference. Then you can really get inside the enemy’s mind as he’s stomping his combat boots all over yours.
Juliette

French people think of you. Here, violence is latent too but well, it remains different… I think that your poem is good Amanda, I just love your songs and your artistic world.
It is brave to manage to write a poem about someone who is hated in all your county and who hurted you deeply. But, this is art, trying to render beauty and emotion, sometimes through the most terrible subjets. Only art can catch the unbeliveable.
http://www.facebook.com/LastWhisper Amanda Dascoulias

One of the great thing’s about the United States of America is that people can write poetry on whatever they like; and I think Amanda has some good points in the poem. I find it funny too that Diggingellen presumes to criticize Amanda on what she has written saying ” you didn’t know this boy” when in reality neither does Diggingellen. What if what Amanda described really was the way he was thinking and feeling? None of us know. Only he knows his own thoughts, and Amanda isn’t wrong for writing what she thinks he was feeling because it is so unknown at this point. Poetry is art, and art is whatever the artist deems it is.
- bill lignos
  
  well if poor Lil dhzokar didn’t like this country he should have moved back to fuckin Dagestan.I’d love to see u go fight overseas and hi thorough
QualityAssurance

Ugh, what a self-indulgent, immature excuse of a poem. Oh, poor little Dzjokhar who, in your opinion, just does not seem to know how to do anything. You’ve constructed this little victim who couldn’t make sense of the world and this just not seem realistic or likely to elicit empathy. I have spent a good deal of time thinking about this young man and wondered what sequence of events turned a seemingly well-adjusted 19 year old college student into a terrorist who will plant a bomb in a crowd of innocent people, look a potential victim in the eyes, and just walk away. It’s a tragedy for him and a tragedy for his family in addition to being a tragedy to the victims. However, your fanciful picture of him as someone who is a helpless victim before life does absolutely nothing to advance understanding of him as a person. It even kind of sucked as a poem, very sixth grade writing assignment quality. But hey, you got some publicity so “go you”.
Christopher

The challenge, here, one that Amanda has embraced, is to find the compassion that the perpetrators of this tragedy did not have. The point of this isn’t to insult those who have lost loved ones. But to remind us that everyone involved is indeed human.
- Maus Merryjest
  
  It doesn’t matter that they are human or not, it doesn’t change what they did.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Thank you but we don’t need to be reminded of that. It’s patronizing. And while the point may not have been to insult the victims, that’s exactly what she has done.
Kaii

Amanda Palmer, you are wonderful and heartfelt. The really hateful comments below make me afraid to even be a human being but you remind me that there is a lot of amazing, creative good in the world too. Please stay safe. <3
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Comments that disagree with, or are offended by her point of view are not necessarily hateful. Also, I’d be more afraid of people willing to blow the legs off of little kids than people who simply disagree with a certain viewpoint. Sorry, am I being “hateful” by disagreeing with you?
  - http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
    
    This is one of my pet peeves in blog comments. If you weren’t being hateful, why would you assume she means you? If your comments aren’t hateful, clearly she isn’t referring to yours. She is referring to the hateful ones.
http://twitter.com/lauraannham Laura

I don’t believe that anyone is evil
Even if the acts they commit
Are unbelievable.

And you might not admit
That atrocities and sadness
Are of ignorance and fear

Not inherent badness.
And to while I may offer my commiseration
For this tragic event that has hurt your nation
That won’t stop me thinking about kid
And what brought him to this.
Bill

For the last time, MORONS, poems do NOT have to rhyme. Haikus almost never rhyme. Most of the great poems Do. NOT. RHYME. You sound like a whining asshole child when you say “but it doesn’t RHYME!!”
- Ed
  
  a.) 90% of the people who say “poems should rhyme” are joking, yanking your chain. You Palmists have no sense of humor.
  b.) Haikus don’t rhyme…they do have a different structure. Poems should generally have some sort of structure…rhyme, iambic pentameter, the structure of a haiku, whatever. A few great poets have made poems without any of these constraints work. However, LOTS of adolescents have tried to just randomly list their feelings and break it into short choppy lines and call it a poem. Many of us have had more exposure to the latter then the former. Personally, my education in literature was so heavy with pretentious stuff that didn’t rhyme that poems that rhyme always strike me as innovative rule-breaking.
http://www.facebook.com/taryntruese Taryn Truese

everyone has strife, that’s life. everyone is dealt a bad hand, even those who presumably live a charmed life. some get their frustrations out by singing, others by sketching, others by writing… but it isn’t right to take your frustrations on a group of people by blowing them up. how could you even be so brazen to show empathy like this for what he might have been thinking, unless you just wanted some negative publicity.
http://www.facebook.com/harrison.raleigh Melissa Savage

I had a pre-conception that the poem was not directly written about Dzhokar from reading her other blog post first. But I really don’t see how people are reading it as support for the kid? The world isn’t black and white, people. The human condition is never a binary condition. Everything exists on a spectrum. Reflecting on humanity in times of tragedy shows support for humanity, not one human. One can have compassion for an “evildoer” and still resent their actions. It just recognizes the humanity in all of us. We don’t know the circumstances, anyways. If you think you’re getting the real story from American Mainstream News, you don’t know much about how American Mainstream News operates.

I think a lot of the angry people needed to hear this message, especially Amanda’s explanation of her poem. We need to pause and reflect on humanity, not knee-jerk and act out of fear and hatred. That never gets humanity anywhere. Particularly in politics, where we just lose freedom and never get it back.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Please point me to where we can see Amanda’s explanation of the poem. Thank you.
  - Christ Why
    
    It’s at the very top of this post.
    
    http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130423/
  - http://www.facebook.com/harrison.raleigh Melissa Savage
    
    Sure, here it is: http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130423/
- MiMi
  
  Thank you for summing up my thoughts beautifully.
Shot Dunyon

Good poem, people trip about this guy’s damage to humanity without thinking that this guy is human too and all this poem has done is remind us of that.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Why do you feel we need to be reminded he is human? Why is that a priority at this point?
  - Nocty
    
    Because it is important to remember that he is a human and therefore has rights.
- SMH
  
  please explain it to the mother & father who lost their son & daughter who lost a leg, I’m sure they’d be thrilled to hear about it. SMH
Tony

You can make art for yourself, or you can share it. Sometimes its about processing life and gaining perspective, and sometimes its about self-expression, contributing and connecting to others.

None of us love every piece of expression we read, every piece of art we see, but on the whole, our world is brighter for the art people share. As an artist, my advice is that you are very cautious and deliberate about how you let feedback and criticism of your self-expression impact you and your art. Without careful consideration, reacting to the kind of criticisms we see here can ruin your capacity to express yourself freely. Self doubt can be the enemy of art. The masses can be the enemy of individual expression.

I suggest responding to their words as you’d wish they responded to yours.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Artists should be cautious and deliberate about receiving criticism but not so cautious and deliberate about what they put out in the first place?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000304701764 Christina Bdba

Talk about killing your music career.How the h*ll cares how a murderer FEEEEEELLLLLSSS? WTH is wrong with young people theses days?
Jeshie1267

Why would you write this? It’s freaking weird. Anyone who can put a bomb next to a family with little kids
doesn’t deserve to have anything written for him or anyone feel bad for him… That’s twisted if i’ve ever seen it.
Yumb Yumb

Thanks for opening your mind to us, Amanda. <3
- bill lignos
  
  yeah Amanda that poem was beautiful, you sick fuck. you are nothing but a p¡nk wannabe. those fuckin eyebrows. lol what a joke. f#ck off , your free to write your third grade poems cuz of brave men and women who fought and fight for your freedom. please get fuckin bent!
skoon000

Well, I love it. it seems to me that it’s about a lot of different thing colliding together in a moment that happens to be tragic
Michael Calabrese

By any credible literary standard, this is wretched, vacuous “poetry,” the vile product of 2013 victimological obsession than compels “artists” to find (or invent) an exculpatory pain and an justificatory alienation for a murderer. I thank Ms. Palmer for the poem, as it illustrates this paradigm perfectly. I intend to show the poem to my students as an illustration of just how bad (formally, doctrinally, rhythmically) a piece of writing can be. It is singularly devoid of merit and betrays her absolute lack of craft and inspiration.
John

You’re full of shit Amanda whatsername. What sick, lame, disgusting, scumbag way to bring attention to yourself. If you don’t plan to just go straight to hell, then please at least find a new hobby. You suck.
http://www.facebook.com/anna.ramm.3 Anna Supes Ramm

Hi. I don’t know if I can get a direct response commenting here, or if I should try messaging you privately — but I was wondering if it would be alright for me to write a Russian translation of this poem.

I am a Russian immigrant living in America (the Boston area, as it so happens; but not very close to the bombings), and my father is an amateur political philosopher, for lack of a better term. He writes and publishes articles on a Russian-language political forum, as well as link to and reblog articles by others that he considers relevant and worth reading. Most of his work concerns current Russian politics (though he likes to think that it addresses a more global aspect of sociology).

As you can probably guess, he has been very embroiled in the story of this bombing, for obvious reasons. Even more so because he predicted Russia’s involvement long before it came to light that the immediate perpetrators were Chechen. Long story short (haha, wow, not really), while this poem addresses a completely different side of what happened — the Bostonian bystander view — than what my dad has been writing about… I still believe it is relevant and he may want to share it with his readers, or at the very least would appreciate it himself. (I should note that he is a literature buff and poetry lover/writer, as well as political thinker.)

So, that’s why I’d really like to translate it and give him a chance to post it on his forum — if that’s alright with you. Sorry for the super long-winded explanation; I hope you won’t hold that against me.
http://www.facebook.com/kclynch1 Kelly Covington Lynch

“You don’t know how to drive this car” (Was that a crack about running over his brother? Whoopsie!)
http://www.facebook.com/dougwheatonjr Doug Wheaton Jr

Are you really that retarded? Let’s see how well you write a poem when you’re a victim of this anti-American jerk off. Guess what? He’s going to get what’s coming to him. He isn’t fucking human. He’s a monster. And you trying to create sympathy for him makes you just another liberal drone who buys into the notion that America is to blame for the ills of the world. Move to Afghanistan and see how poetic you are about women being raped, mutilated, and beheaded when they show the least bit of skin or dare to speak out to a man. Moron!
- bill lignos
  
  Yes tell this broad, she knows nothing. you can only write what you write cuz u live in this country. try in Afghanistan/
- suckit
  
  Check out her upbeat songs about lighthearted stuff- things like rape.
- kk
  
  get ur negativity the fuck out of here bro. this is a time for HEALING and PEACE. not for division.
Fuckoff Amanda

I’d like to see you recite this in front of the 4 families who lost, or the other 187 who were injured. If you’re wondering what kind of reaction you’d get- my guess is a foot in the face. Go back to your hole in the wall and go away.
Elzbieta

I truly do not know what to think… the news stations all give out info, and then different info in much contrast what they said before… until some of the info disappears and your left with more questions. The night into day of the blood trail from the car… dogs could of picked up a scent… a bleeding soul. They forcefully searched everywhere, except under their own noses. The house, the boat – a few blocks away from the other crime scene was not searched? Told everyone to stay indoors? They either knew where he was and wanted to make him suffer and didn’t want to take him in alive. He fell off the boat after one lonely picture was taken or was he lifted off? I heard both reports. One car, Two cars…I heard both versions. I’m confused and Thanks Amanda for writing something that I can only pen in secret. What went wrong? And I’m saddened by it all. Where is is family now when he needs them the most?
- SMH
  
  Monday morning quarterback
SMH

you do know how to kill
you do know how to make a bomb
you do know how to jack a car
you do know how to run over your brother
you do know how to blow the legs off people
http://www.facebook.com/vdunlap2 Victoria Dunlap

Hey Amanda……….I have been listening to your stuff for some time now….you are a gifted poet……….problem is that my face book page pretty much came unglued over this recent poem…….I write myself…….I am also a former politician and have an exclusive group of friends….here’s what I stated in reference to your poem……….I have spent most of my life fighting for justice……..my greatest accomplishment is that I’ve learned to be fair……..It isn’t fair to pick on Amanda Palmer…….she did not commit a crime…..she simply made a mistake………..get over it………
I understand the your poetry…..I understand the depth……….I understand the big picture….they don’t….I don’t care to allow freedom of speech to die on my timeline……so….I will read on and take it for what it is……..Nothing more nothing less…. art….perhaps inappropriate………sincerely fucking sticking my neck out as usual
…………Victoria S. Dunlap
suckit

So let me get this straight- you’re free to write that drivel, have it publicized but when a negative comment is posted you delete it. How about you show the same tact for the stupid “poem” you wrote? My guess is no since you obviously love this attention. There is a name for that kind of person- maybe you can write about that.
- http://twitter.com/JLWakefield Jason Wakefield
  
  “Have it publicised”.
  
  You are aware that papers will generally print what they want, largely outside of the control of whoever they are writing about? All Amanda Palmer did was write a blog. That is hardly having it publicised or attention seeking or using a tragedy for selfish gain. Your personal vitriolic attacks toward someone who is simply posting thoughts on a blog hinders the proper discussion that we all need to have, especially concerning important topics like this.
  
  What you need to realise is that the pointless rage you have towards Amanda Palmer has been manufactured by whatever news site brought you here, for THEIR selfish gain.
Guest

did MY poem disappear??
Cowgirl up!

Another gene pool in need of a lifeguard. Please do everyone a favor and do not procreate.
thecureforzero

I respect you for writing what you want to write, regardless of the opinions of others.
Annie

You don’t know how to mourn for your brother because you ran him over and killed him while trying to save your own sorry hide.
http://www.facebook.com/michael.heardsnow Michael Heard-Snow

I FOUND THIS POEM BEAUTIFUL. . .

I guess I’d just like to put it out there, In contrast to much of what has been said. Art is beautiful for what it is, what it shows, what it becomes and embodies. (Which never seems to be to the artist what the see-ers seem to see and conject.) I also find it quite amusing when people but words, feeling, and thoughts into the mouths of artists when, as you’ve already pointed out in your blog already, that those comments, hatred, fear, and darkness reflect the readers more that anyone else.

Because art is a mirror, it reflects society back at itself in a, sometimes, more palatable manner. I wish there was not so much hatred surrounding this, and that we could be more loving in the face of darkness. As you’ve said, We are all connected, our hatred and intolerance of others is that of our own selves, and more than anything I’m so sad that a poem about the hard times of the past week can act as a catalyst for such hatred and mis-understanding rather than love, connective-ness, and understanding.

To the doubtless backlash I’ll get from this, I want you all to know that I love you, and I hope you can learn to live free from fear, suffering, and greif.
Larry

Here ya go, stupid. Here’s a nice picture for your poem. The kid who’s about to die near the monster that’s about to kill him. Poetic, isn’t it? But no poem for the kid, of course

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/crowdshot.jpg
Tina

Don’t bother leaving negative messages – she posts her garbage out there for the public to see but can’t handle the public comments so she DELETES THEM. The real poetry would be in leaving those comments there. But since you can’t, you’re obviously a hack and an attention whore.

Never heard of her before. Don’t intend to again after this day. If any of you have some of that grand “empathy” for the people maimed and killed, do something more with your fingers besides leaving a comment here. Because, no poem for them and all.
- k
  
  when given the option to just *delete* negativity from the world, who wouldn’t take it?
  in a time where the nation is so sensitive, in this period of healing, you guys here are just talking shit about some artist you’ve never heard of and her choice to empathize with a terrorist? ya jerks
Quelyn

What I see here are a lot of people who do not have curiosity about the human condition. People that look at the world in black and white and never ask questions or explore. If everyone was like this we would never have scientific progress. Criminal profilers wouldn’t exist. Psychologists would not be there to take people back from the brink. It’s easy to judge. But, understanding is the more difficult and more rewarding path. Having an understanding, or a curiosity, about the human condition is NOT condoning it. Think past your own bubbles people.
- SMH
  
  Can’t speak for the others, but I have a curiosity for the human condition, especially when the human is alive & hasn’t had their legs blown off…
  - Quelyn
    
    If someone read a book written about Ted Bundy, does that mean they think that he’s a cool dude who should be glorified? It doesn’t. Wanting to explore the thoughts and ideas surrounding a horrible person does not make YOU a horrible person. Clearly Amanda is supportive of the Boston tragedy and I’m sure it hits very close to home. She wears her feelings on her sleeve, and shares a LOT of that. This is no different. Yet, because people want to just live in their outrage, they lash out. Poetry is about evoking reactions and interpretations, and in that arena, this was a great success.
    - sickofhipsters
      
      You hipsters really don’t have a fucking clue do you? Stop trying to understand each and everything you see- some things are what they are. No go out and buy more pink hair dye to show the world how cool you think you are.
      - Quelyn
        
        Uhm. Good one? Are we gonna meet on the playground at 3:30 to throw rocks at each other?
Nohopeforthehumanrace

You should probably stop considering yourself a poet and go get a real job…. Because that was really, really bad. And not just because you’re trying to humanize and have sympathy for a fucking terrorist, but also because (for starters) who the hell includes things such as ‘battery life’ and ‘iPhones’ in poetry? Seriously. If it was deep and decent and meaningful maybe I would actually have given you some credit but thing thing sucked.
- http://www.facebook.com/john.doey.73700 John Doey
  
  Oh man, another brainless bagger.
- ok bye
  
  EXCUSE ME…HUMANIZE?? AS IF HE WASN’T A HUMAN?? DO NOT DENY THAT IT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE ARE COLLECTIVELY DEHUMANIZING THIS MAN. JUST AS IT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE ARE COLLECTIVELY PRAISING HIM FOR BEING A SCHOLARSHIP WINNER AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS A “NICE, QUIET GUY”. BUT EMPATHY IS FAR FROM PRAISE AND I DIDN’T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS EMPATHY IS SUCH A FAR OUT CONCEPT FOR THE MASSES, BUT I GUESS THAT’S THE CONCLUSION I’M FORCED TO COME TO. (it would probably be best for you to abandon the notion that all poetry is about nature and verbose words and rhyming because you can say whatever you damn well please in a poem)
Anonymous

poorly written. it’s not poetry, it’s not art. you just strung a bunch of painfully obvious “trying to be relatable with sad things about a loner” phrases together. there is no motive to this, there is no message to derive, there are no feelings to connect with. The only motive is you trying to insert yourself into something more important than you, the only message is that you’re a selfish coward who would try to be THAT edgy as to sympathize with a murderer obviously for attention, the only feelings i can possibly observe are the avarice and disrespect you are showing the victims of the bombing, to you, they’re somebodies who won’t be remember as being as shit person who fucks over local musicians and writes unnecesarry slander, sympathizing with terrorists. Get over yourself. People like you who think they have a voice for making money off of pop hits are disgusting, vile tools of a skewed system. I know many poets who have a voice that won’t be heard, but you will be heard and what you’re saying profane, insipid, and unnecesarry. i hope nobody listens to you, in fact, i hope everything you’ve done blows up in your face and even your devoutest of fans deny the voice you think you have. scum.
http://www.facebook.com/Maskedpainter Rene Ramirez

Trying to make yourself relevant on top of the bodies of victims.

Congrats. You’re a shock jock of poetry.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1478701587 Cynthea Sabolich

Oh my God. This isn’t poetry. It isn’t prose. It is total crap capitalizing on the dead bodies of Martin Richard, Lu Lingzi, Krystal Campbell, and Sean Collier. THEIR names are the only ones we should be hearing. THEIR families are grief stricken yet this Amanda chick thinks Ode to her navel is important. You are one deranged chick. Especially that part about the iPhone battery and the bottom of the boat. ew!
DPH0809

As an Iraq war veteran stationed at a combat hospital in downtown Baghdad, I have seen the horror of IED’s. I have experienced the pain of losing people as well as the pain of telling someone they no longer have a limb or multiple limbs for that matter. During my time there I went through a range of emotions just like everyone else. At first I hated the terrorists. I didn’t understand how they could take lives with such ease. After awhile I realized hate breeds more hate. If an enemy combatant came in I treated them with kindness and respect with the hope that if me treating them, with kindness and respect, would somehow change their view of us (American Soldiers) and save someones life it was the least I could do. Amanda posed a great question, “Where are we failing each other?” We cannot turn our backs on each other no matter what our differences of opinion are. Somewhere along the line someone failed this young man. How do we stop this hatred? That should be the question we ask. Thank you Amanda for being brave enough to write you’re feelings, for saying what others are thinking.
- stormypink
  
  When 9/11 happened I couldn’t believe those men lived among us…lived the American life and still did what they did. I couldn’t believe they experienced what we think of as “the good life” and still chose to die by crashing planes. I thought about it a lot—then I had to conclude that what we believe is the best in life, was a sinful pit of hell–worthy of God’s punishment. It is what they were taught.
  - Ashley
    
    Stormy,
    
    I am not saying I agree with what the terrorists do by any means. They (terrorist organizations) bring nothing but pain and suffering to the innocent people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. What I am saying is that hate breeds hate. The leaders of these organizations (Al-Qaeda, The Taliban…etc) spew hate towards the western culture. The taught hatred gets passed down into the community. I deployed knowing that I might have to take a life if it meant saving my friends life or my own life, but I also deployed wanting to help change the jaded perception of Americans. I helped deliver 6 Iraqi babies, all boys. Lets say as they are growing up they run with the wrong crowd, a crowd that teaches them to hate Americans but they remember being told that Americans helped deliver them into this world,we gave them life. What if that though alone changes the path they take in the future? If I changed one persons life in a positive way, if I stopped one Iraqi from hating us as collective Americans, then I feel like my mission came with a positive outcome. It only takes one person to light the spark for change.
Leo Bueno

A poem is always about poetry and, then again, poetry is not for begginers. I loved it. Nobody will never know what is in Dzhokhar’s mind, nor what was briefly in the heads of the people he have supposed killed. But Amanda Palmer says what’s in HER mind, and in her heart, and she has to be very brave and sensitive to share it with us. Thank you, mrs. Palmer. And for the others: we need more comprehension, and therefore more peace, so please stop fighting.
http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz

Since when is art about toeing the line of morality? since when is art only about the good guys? since when is art supposed to be profound and meaningful?

I thought art is art just because it is. One comment really got me: “who the hell includes things such as ‘battery life’ and ‘iPhones’ in poetry”
Poetry isn’t all about flowers and nature.

Art isn’t uncontroversial.
Art isn’t even always beautiful.

You can’t even define the difference between art and not art.

Eye of the beholder folks.

Art is about being human.
- a_lethe_ia
  
  yeah. and for godwins sake “hitler made art too”
  
  scnr
  - http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
    
    I’ll agree with that. Art isn’t necessarily good.
    Artists aren’t necessarily good either.
    There’s nasty stuff out there…truly vile creations. I think of lapshades made of human skin in the holocaust…and I just don’t have words for the horror. But, there’s the creation, there’s my reaction, there’s thousands of other reactions, some of them art themselves…and it shouldn’t have happened, there shouldn’t have been that tragedy, but now that there is it just keeps spinning…we shouldn’t dwell on it. We should get back to the light and hope. But we can’t deny it.
    
    devil’s advocate is important in debate, thanks.
- love
  
  probably the most sense that will be made in all of these gross comments.
http://www.facebook.com/tpkern Tom Kern

Human being Amanda Palmer wrote a poem that attempts to
describe the confusion she felt during the Boston bombing. Part of working
through her confusion was an attempt to try an understand one of the men who
did this.

Is he different from me?

What is he feeling?

He’s a human just like me. Why would he do this?

Why do this?

Well because it’s natural. Because writing off another human
being as a “monster” and capital E “Evil” is easy and dangerous.

Maybe I misinterpreted the poem. Maybe it’s not well
written. Maybe the title is misleading.

I have differing feeling s about the above.

However I can say this I don’t think it was done for
attention. I think the title was purposefully chosen to bring attention to the
POEM but not to Amanda.

Human being Amanda Palmer got all of us arguing about a poem
in the 21st century.

We are all literary critics now.

The last time people got all worked up about a literary work
in my time was The Satanic Verses.

But hey I’m just an amateur literary critic on the internets…
http://www.facebook.com/pg.matuszak P-G Matuszak

From

Jim Treacher
“There once was a girl, Amanda Palmer
Who felt bad for a child-killing bomber
If the dolt is aroused
By this murdering louse
She must get dripping wet over Dahmer ”

#apoemforamanda
- a_lethe_ia
  
  do you like yatze croshaw? i dont know why i am remembering him.. maybe because of limerick
- ugh
  
  wow, that was completely disgusting. amanda’s poem is QUITE RECOGNIZABLY FAR from a proclamation of her love for murderers.
Sharpies R Punx, amiright!?

I have to say that after reading this “poem”, watching your awful TED talk, hearing that people somehow gave you a million dollars out of their own pockets to make a crappy record and seeing this “support my art” button above, it is clear you are only in it for the money and will do anything to publicize yourself. You are fake and awful. You act like you are a suffering artist, but are a millionaire You should do the world a favor and take all of that Kickstarter money and donate it to the One Fund Boston. Then you can go live in the woods or something so no one has to see/hear you again.
- a_lethe_ia
  
  and your ate the truth with a golden spoon i see. well mr Harvard. art, music and _____critic, what have you done for the art other than bitching on other ppls blogs?^^
dangerG

So, Dzjokhar isn’t Lord Voldemort. He’s a person who made a really bad decision from a position of hate and ignorance. And it’s okay if that scares you, because we’re all capable of making really bad decisions. The fact that it scares you and is abhorrent to you means that you probably never will do something as colossally stupid as attacking our country.

It is terrifying to think that this could happen in your home town, or mine. It is terrifying that this DID happen in your hometown. Anger grows best in fear. But remember who actually planted the bomb. It wasn’t the poet.

We’re all on the same side, here, right? The side of people who would like to see less bombing and terror in our country. I imagine it would be easier to vent your frustrations if Dzjokhar had his own blog, but he doesn’t. He’s not reading these comments. The poem didn’t take anyone’s legs. He did. Focus your anger where it belongs.
Think2x

Try writing about the POV from Martin Richard. You know- the innocent little boy who was laid to rest today. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/8_year_old_dorchester_victim_of_marathon_attacks_laid_to_rest
Seriously

You are human garbage. Just fucking stop.
ass

This is the worst poem I have ever read. It doesn’t even fucking rhyme how the fuck did you even come up with this? Did you smoke a ton of meth and write this?
Kevin Blouin

This is a national news story? This poem sounds like a lost Nickleback song. I hope you have a day job. I’m not offended or anything. Your poem just sucks BALLS.
- jennifer626
  
  Wow, cheap shot to Nickelback!
FAN5223

I understand a poem is a form of art. To be honest, and with all do respect, please write a poem for the parents of the eight year old boy who lost his life. Please write a poem to the families of the two women whose lives ended too short. Please write a poem for the police officer was assassinated. Please write a poem for his family. Please write a poem for the injured victims of the Boston bombings. Please write a poem for the people who can’t walk again. Please write a poem for the police officers who spent time away from their families and put their own lives in danger to catch these evil people. Please write a poem for all the people that think twice about participating in a public event again. Please STOP writing about these evil people that caused so much pain to so many people world wide. I try to see the good in everyone. I really do. These brothers were no good. They were successful, had friends, one a great boxer, both intelligent, etc. They had the makeup to be successful in life, they CHOSE this path. It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people say “they had a lot of pain inside, they were confused, they had demons, etc. etc. etc. IT’S ALL BS!! Enough with giving these evil people more exposure, more recognition. Start recognizing the people in this world that do good. There’s not enough of that in this world. Too many good people do not get recognized, and good people usually don’t need to be recognized. It makes me sick to my stomach knowing someone actually took time out of their life to write a poem about someone who has done so much wrong, and actually feels empathy for this individual. I am a Christian, and have no right to judge anyone, but hope our Lord has a special taxi straight to hell for these evil men.
- Conchubar
  
  I’d like to see a poem for the 23 who died in Iraq that same day. The poem is pointing out that everyone has pain. Yes, he was a monster for doing what he did: but what if he was an American, in Iraq or Afghanistan who bombed a street there? He’s be a hero then. It’s all about perspective. I have sympathy for those he affected, hell yes. But I also have sympathy for him because he is so deluded that he felt he had to do this.
  - a_lethe_ia
    
    well and what is of all the iraqis which died in this war and the afterthought because some dicks thought they could bomb freedom into a country. this costs lives at a daily bases and nobody here mourns of them or writes poems because it seems to me that a helluvalot people think its okay if muslims die (well, 70% of the victims of terrorism ARE muslims) by the hand of muslims (let me give you a tip:no its not. its as bad as america teenager die killed by american teenager and nobody tells these or the white americans they should tell their terrorist to stop this bs. (and the successful white terrorists are a lot more common that the successful muslim-terrorists in number.))
    
    there
confusedgonzales

Anyone who attempts to justify an action that hurt innocent people, shame on you. If you are suffering what makes it right to make other suffer. People tend to use the “I am a victim” approach to justify their wrongdoings. When do we take responsibility for our actions? When do we start to heal ourselves by being strong??? I am sorry, I do not feel anything kind to anyone who harms others in such a manner. I feel great saddness and pray for the families that have suffered. Time wasted on writing a poem for this individual is unbelievable. I cannot understand the motivation. no wonder we have problems. perhaps the author should have been in Boston to witness the saddness and loss and pain, then the view may have been different. I wasn’t there, but cried just the same. 9/11 came back to mind. the loss of live for nothing but hatred. completely senseless
- a_lethe_ia
  
  the author LIVEs in boston. not far away.
http://twitter.com/Joannie_bing Joan Philips

A title is just a title, it has little influence on the material. Try reading it without the title try reading it without some picture in your mind maybe then you will understand what she was feeling when she wrote it. We are all human beings, without empathy for our fellow man, are we human?
- Dyrewulf
  
  Ask dzhokhar that.
Leatherstocking

you don’t know what it is to pick up body parts of the innocent.
you don’t know what it is to put your hand into a leg to stop a bleeding artery.
you don’t know about carrying a women who will never walk again.
you don’t know how to comfort a young girl gang-raped by a muslim militia.
you don’t know about the coptic christian women being kidnapped in egypt.
you don’t know how to deal with rotting corpses of a village.
you don’t know about medical and educational missionaries killed for their beliefs
you don’t know how to honor your mother or father
you don’t know enough of this world to form an intelligent opinion.
http://twitter.com/PatriotLand Daniel

“And You don’t know”….. that a sentence, even in a supposed “poem” should always have the first word capitalized. No money for you unless you use it for a serious beauty makeover. Another brain-dead person looking for her 5 minutes of fame here. Epic failure to the tenth degree.
Annika

To all y’all haters: you don’t HAVE TO agree with what someone writes. That’s the awesomeness about it all, that we are all entitled to our opinion.

With that in mind: read the poem again. I don’t interpret it as showing sympathy for these boys’ acts; but for them. As people. Everyone has their reasons, no matter how fucked-up, and these two brothers had reasons they probably saw as reasonable. I don’t. I find it utterly discusting and horrible, what they did, and I hate their acts, yes, maybe I even hate them in a way (I know my hate to them would definetely be a fact if I had any personal connection to what happened, of course, that’s human), but I can still feel sympathy for them as humans. As little boys – fuck – I’m 24, my brother is 20, this could be him and me. I can’t hate them because I’m not inside their heads, I don’t understand how their worlds looked before they did all this. If I could be them for a while, maybe my thoughts on the acts would be completely different.

Oh well, this turned into a lot of just loosey-goosey sleepy-talk. Basically, what I mean is: hate the acts, hate the reason (whatever that was), hate the hand that made the mess. But don’t hate the heart of the person whose hand made the mess, we are so different from these people it’s unimaginable for us to even plan something like this in a serious matter. And maybe most of all: don’t hate on a person writing a poem trying to express something around the event and the people. You, we, might not understand, we might not agree, but come on, it’s words, not bombs. They won’t kill us, only, hopefully, make our perspectives a little bigger.
Benjamin Harris

Please get the fuck out of my country.
- stormypink
  
  This is “your country”? Scuse me…..
-

how about “you dont know how the family of the 8 year old child that you killed feels” ?
Christian_Joe

You think if he was waterboarded it would be horrible? Later, he would still have his legs, while others would not. Later he would still have his father and his mother, but others lost their son, while others lost their daughter. Later the water would be nothing more than a frightening memory, though one he so well deserved. He killed. He maimed. A father remembers that hug so dear, that his son had given him an instant before the boy’s life was stolen.
You need to look in the mirror, long and hard. Part of you is dead. Nothing remains but a slowly rotting corpse. You too will go to the grave, and return to the dust. No one will care.
- stormypink
  
  What you wish on others will come to you.
Billy

….i Feel for the 8 Year old Boy

Who will never go on his 1st Date

Who will never go to his Prom

Who will never pick up the Bass and play in a band

Who will never drink beer and stay out late with his friends

Who will never have a job that he Loves. Never have a Love of his Life. Never have any more regrets or Sorrows

Who will never have anymore Fun. Who will never have anymore Hopes or fears.

…I Feel for the 2 Young Women

Who will never Go to Spain

Who will never again hang glide

Who will never have kids

Who will never get to have their art work hanging in a Museum.

Who will never lose a Loved one or win the Lottery. Who will never get Married or Divorced.

dzhokhar had and made his choice….he chose to kill…The 8 year old boy and the 2 young women who died did not get to chose….I am Sorry but I do Not Sympathize with dzhokhar
- stormypink
  
  Amanda didn’t sympathize with him either
Benjamin Harris

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/18/1366301961186/phpg8GryFAM.jpg
- FF866
  
  Why i her sleeve covered in red blood and her skin underneath fine? Am I the only one who sees this?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  Who cares about the carnage when Dzhokar doesn’t know how to mourn his brother?
LAscreenwriter

>>>”you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers.
you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.

Wow, it’s amazing that Palmer can “empathize” with a terrorist this way. And I’m sure his victims that are lying in Boston hospital beds — who actually had their fingers and legs completely blown off — were especially touched by these 2 specific lines. After all, his emotional pain compared to their emotional AND physical pain must be far greater (insert mocking eye roll here). Of course, you gotta love this bit too…

>>”you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown … you don’t know where your friends went.”

I don’t mean to become Mr. Spock and get all logic-like here, but once you start bombing innocent civilians… and once you turn to carjacking and kidnapping hoping to make your escape so you can
kill even MORE people yet another day… and once you have every cop and Fed in the country after you… it seems pretty silly to wonder “where your friends went.” Because I’m guessing they all abandoned you — oh gee, I don’t know — because you’re a freaking murderous terrorist and Public Enemy #1???

And to those saying this poem is about ART… clearly you have substandard levels of taste. Because REAL art is an expression of the human condition that should focus on – and reveal – what the subject was doing or feeling, whether it’s a still life of fruit in a bowl that is basking in the sunlight or a person sitting on a park bench all alone that you paint or photograph, hoping to capture a moment of genuine emotion in their face, body posture, etc.

But we don’t know anything about this person since he’s still being questioned. The result being this poem is nothing more than a flat-out LIE since its Palmer superimposing HER feelings onto things, while making the stupefying logic leap that this must be what HE was feeling. Bottom line: if she wants to write a poem about her feelings of confusion or “friends abandoning her” – fine, go do it. But at least have the creative honesty to call it “A Poem For Amanda” rather than arrogantly claiming you’re speaking for another person.

Plus, a little news flash for Palmer… In the midst of composing this, did it ever occur to you that rather than Dzhokhar having all of these mixed up feelings where you’re bending over backwards to humanize him that maybe… just maybe… he WAS coldly thinking “I just want to kill someone today”? Because nowhere in this screed about his touchy-feely emotions – which ultimately makes this sound like nothing more than an apologist’s ode — do you even touch the concept of pure simple human rage.

And that’s why this poem is a TRIPLE EPIC FAIL. It fails on all artistic cylinders because it approached tings in all the wrong ways… it’s artistically insincere and a sham and lie since it’s completely based on false and made-up emotions… and, BY FAR most importantly of all, this thing is an outright ill-times and insensitive insult to the ACTUAL victims and their suffering families of this
event.

Which means this “art” doesn’t come from the heart, but instead is pure crass commercialism at its worst, where you’re just trying to call attention to yourself and that freakingly dumb donation button.
- a_lethe_ia
  
  ecause REAL art is an expression of the human condition that should focus on
  1. when were the situation decided that you are the one which was defining what art is?
  2- shes doeng exactly that. expressing human condidtion. asking questions, askying-how could it be that a human did it? a human, parents, frend, fellow student stated he were nice and calm and whatever?
  
  like school shooting. like the young guys at the war who shot afghan civilians like they were walking target-practice.signs. like the young guys, some of them policemen who operated in small groups behind the front lines and executed jewish families without really wanting it. like the slaver who abduct children to pick chocolate for ferrero and you..
  
  all these are human. we are human. and we dont know the answer. we dont know why.
- stormypink
  
  Epic Fail is so yesterday…..
  
  you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.
  
  As in “I never really appreciated my legs until I saw a person with no legs”
  
  you don’t know where your friends went.”
  
  As in ” I can’t find my friends, I hope they are OK”
  
  you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers
  
  As in ” I’m anxious, I pick at my nails’
- http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
  
  Although I don’t think that Ms. Palmer’s stream-of-consciousness composition is, in fact, a poem, or particularly artistic, I must disagree with your assertion that its failure as “art” is because of its projection onto the subject (Dzhokhar), because at root, all communication that is not entirely self-referential involves some type of projection. It’s inherent in the subject/object duality within which we all, as bounded and finite creatures, find ourselves.
  
  When DaVinci painted the woman we call “Mona Lisa”, he was, in fact, painting his own projection of her — after all, she was not painting the portrait herself! What makes art great is when those projections correspond to some universal part of the human condition: the Mona Lisa moves us because DaVinci captured in her enigmatic smile something which we can all identify as mystifyingly human.
http://twitter.com/1stLazyBum Lazy Bum

YOU DON’T KNOW HOW i MADE IT 1/4 OF THE WAY THRU THIS WITHOUT VOMITING. iT WASN’T EASY…..Can I have my 2 minutes back, please?
- trollsandtrollsandtrolls
  
  Wow, it took you 2 minutes to get through a quarter of this? That’s like five lines. Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
  
  What am I saying. Obviously you’re not.
http://twitter.com/RJ_Huneke R.J. Huneke

This poem conveys stark feeling, overcoming emotion, sympathy, and most importantly empathy. Empathy. That is what I take from this piece. Empathy is an important theme too often lost on the world. You did not have to know the brothers to be affected by what has transpired…we all have been hurt by this tragedy. Empathy. Thank you for being you, AFP. Keep rockin’ on. Keep writing.
- visceralrebellion
  
  em·pa·thy [em-puh-thee] noun
  1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.
  
  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empathy
  
  I have no desire to identify or experience Johar the murderer in any way. If you do, please seek professional help immediately. An ER will suffice.
stormypink

Where in Amanda’s poem is there sympathy for this Boston Bomber? Which lines show sympathy? Which lines show what was running through the author’s mind?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  She sympathizes with the fact that he doesn’t know how to mourn his brother and pay his debts. And she kind of understands why he would try to kill marathon runners because “why would anyone want to run their goddamned knees into the ground anyway.”
cawcaw

I love you Amanda. The bomber was a boy a year younger than myself. He’s not some monster and he shouldn’t be treated as such. By treating those who hurt us as monsters, we take away the responsibility from ourselves, because we can say there was nothing we could have done to stop a monster. If somebody had been kind to that boy, had loved him, would he have done the things he done? If he wasn’t feeling alone and confused in a big wide world where so much is expected of him and yet he has no idea what to do, would he have done the things he done? Maybe Americans should take a step back and realize, he’s not a monster. He’s just like you and me. Lost in the woods. He decided to burn those woods down. And that’s an awful thing and he deserves whatever punishment he’ll get, but maybe we should look at what caused this, and learn from it, and evolve as a society, rather than just writing him off as another monster.

I hope you are holding up well.
- sfhjksft3267g
  
  he should be loved and understood….much like the 8 year old he blew to bits….
  - cawcaw
    
    No, he should not be loved, he should be tried and put in jail. He should have been loved before he did what he did, but it’s too late for that. As for understood, yes, he should be understood, because by understanding him we can understand what caused him to do what he did, and by learning that, maybe we can prevent other eight year olds from being blown to bits.
    
    This is a vicious cycle and it will only be put to rest if we decide to stand up and stop it. Hate only predicates more hate.
- visceralrebellion
  
  Sounds like there were plenty of people who cared for Tsarnaev the younger. Fat lot of good all their friendship and love did. Honestly, the only word that accurately describes Johar is monster. Any attempt to sanitize him to make him less obscene is itself an injustice.
  
  From where comes the desire to claim that **anyone** can be the next Johar. Bullshit! Most people cannot fathom smiling at an 8 year old boy while planting the bomb that will slice the child apart. If YOU know people who are “just like Johar” you are in serious need of new friends.
Robin Red

Wow, there is enough hatorade down there to quench the desert’s cruel thirst. Anyway, I love your voice, Amanda. Not your singing voice (that, too, though) but the voice of your persona. It was spot on.
- sfhjksft3267g
  
  she stands with terrorists. what a role model.
  - luci_fer
    
    does she? please justify.
  - Robin Red
    
    “To reveal art and conceal the artist is art’s aim.” Amanda Palmer is no more a terrorist-sympathizer than John Milton is a satanist.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
      
      She is CLEARLY a terrorist empathizer and admits as much. Pay attention.
  - http://www.facebook.com/bjorn.h.visser Bjorn Herman Visser
    
    you stand with hate aimed at someones beliefs. you aren’t that different. sorry.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  Her poem is hateful to the real victims. Utterly vile.
Susan Strober

Why are people calling this a poem? It’s like reading the diary of an overweight 7th grader with acne. I sure wish I could have back the last minute of my life.
- a_lethe_ia
  
  if i shit in one hand and wish into my other, which one fills first?
NotImpressed

I’m sorry but I just don’t think this poem would have turned out the way it did if you were standing by one of their bombs. It’s these idiots that will DESTROY our country and all the indifferent people who listen to them. And anyone who gives these people money are even bigger fools being led like sheep to be slaughtered.
sfhjksft3267g

sfhjksft3267g Amanda Palmer • 4 minutes ago

In spite of my obvious fury at your poem, I appreciate your response. I still strongly disagree and I feel that as an artist, yes, you certainly have free reign to self expression, but the troubling part is that AS an artist, why glorify evil? I see this theme echoed in the sentiment of other gifted artists ( and in fairness you are.) They write from the vantage point or the inner dialogue of a serial killer, school shooter, suicide victim, ect. But what does this prove? In what way does this breathe life into tragedy and offer a ray of sunshine? With your poem, you chose for a glaring moment in the media sun (as this has been covered on most of the indie blogs) to dwell on this evil young man who walked into a crowd of men, women and children, smiling and leaving 2 minutes later as their body parts blew away. Think for a minute Amandda Palmer. That 8 year old child…he deserved to be in your poetic spotlight. The man who had his legs blown off and turned ashen death grey…I’m sure he had some serious ruminations in his mind that were of greater significance and pathos to write about. Amanda Palmer, as an artist, you must understand that posting a sympathetic piece ( that IS how most people are taking it) about a man who murdered innocents is not going to be taken well. Certainly, you as an artist are brave and empowered and I have enjoyed the rawness of your shows. But when you concluded your self-vindication with the sentiment that “I am Dhzokar, you are Dhzokar”, no way man. Noooooooooo way. As hurt in life as I have been ( and indeed I have been), I’ve never willingly walked into scores of innocent souls, smiled, left a bomb and walked off to the screams of their torture and the smells of their burning flesh. I simply don’t understand any justification, particularly in light of how FRESH and recent this horrific tragedy has been. I know there is a lot of hateful comments on here directed to you,, and I certainly don’t hate you and appreciate your response. But I believe it is terribly insensitive to insinuate we are all inherent serial murdering terrorists and glorify that in a poem, instead of using your sizable platform to instead memorialize the dead or the wounded. Truly we ARE all capable of doing what Dhzokar did, but Amanda, the last thing I would even think to write to my fans and to the world about would be about his final moments before capture. I’d write about the final moments of that innocent 8 year old boy looking at the runners, smiling, happy and joyful before that evil man blew him to bits.
http://www.facebook.com/ElisabethVictoria Elisabeth Victoria Weaver

I feel it’s so very important to remember that bombers were people. I feel like we’ve all bought tickets to the media circus and we forget that they were people like us.
- visceralrebellion
  
  Speak for yourself. The ONLY thing the Tsarnaev brothers share with me and my family is the number of chromosomes in our nuclei. Everything else differs like night and day.
  
  Why would you be compelled to align yourself with a mass murdering Islamist?
http://www.facebook.com/cj.carr.5 Cj Carr

I don’t think it sounds empathetic at all. She ‘s saying he was hopeless from the start. He was bound to fail in all aspects of life because he didn’t know how to live life. Everything he was trying to do he didn’t know how. He is a complete failure in all realms of life, and ultimately a complete failure in his final act in civilization for what he thinks he’ll be remembered. For the one thing he thinks he finds success in, he has failed. Quit spreading hate everyone.
stevesailer

Think how much more peaceful and sensible the human race would be by now if psycho killers didn’t make too many women want to have their babies.
CHUCKO’

wowzy wowzers this fuckin’ sucks!
CheshireCat

When do you US-americans stop thinking about how to kill all the “evil terrorist” that “attack freedome” and start wondering why you have so few people lying bombs under your arses? Don’t understand me wrong. This bomb is terrible for all the victims and their friends and families and I feel sympathy for them. But your countrys politics seriously fucks up other countrys for decades now. There are over 70.000 dead Mexicans because of the escalation of the “War on drugs” Nixon declared 40 years ago. In Vietnam there are still children born with mostly unfunctional brains because of the terrible chemical warfare of your country. The extremists in the middle east you call “terrorists” were installed by the US as “good rebels” against the russians. On top of that two “wars” seriously fucked up the whole middle east. Just to name a few examples…

Many many millions of people all around the world would have reason enough to detonate bombs in US cities, but somehow you still get very, VERY few of them! They still seem to be able to see the US-citizens mostly as normal human beings. Come down from your freaking high horse and give them back the same courtesy, including the ones that are so desperate or filled with hate, that they are willing to build a bomb and kill other people with them.

Don’t hate! Hate only brings more suffering! Always!

These things will happen occasionally. Feel sympathy for the victims, ask what the reasons might have been and try to eliminate these reasons.
- visceralrebellion
  
  All of that drivel, then an appeal to “don’t hate”???? Odds are the contradiction went right over your head.
  - http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
    
    I think they were trying to get at this idea:
    
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453392938072662&set=a.180723062006319.44192.178047252273900&type=1&theater
    
    This was awful, but it’s commonplace in other countries, sometimes from our involvement. Getting too into hunting terrorists often breeds tragedy in other places. Except for loosing servicemen and women, we haven’t really felt the effect of the wars we’ve started since like, the civil war. It hasn’t been on our soil, and for that we should be so thankful.
    
    there’s another photo with a follow up to the first from syria by those in boston.
tygerstripes

It’s too soon. It’s too soon for a poem.

I get what you’re saying. Immediately after 911, I wanted a nuclear response; but long before the forever war started, I was already heartsick of it. The U.S. wasted a chance then to turn the other cheek. To demonstrate grace and rise above the terrorists; that chance was shat on. The world would be so different now.

This terrorist will go to trial, not to Guantanamo. They finally read him his Miranda. But it’s still too soon for a poem.

Please remove your ‘Donate’ spiel/button from this page.
- luci_fer
  
  she has it on every page; it’s built into the blog and not specific to the poem.
  
  I don’t think it’s too soon for her to express herself on her own blog about something that affected her. It might be too soon for you to read it.
  - tygerstripes
    
    She or someone she pays added the button to donate to The One Fund. If they can do that, they can delete her donation button.
    She can express herself; I can express myself.
Ken Volok

Bravo, very poignant.
costume

A Poem for Amanda

You don’t know how it feels to have your legs blown off.
You don’t know the agony of learning that your child has been murdered.
You don’t know the meaning of the word “empathy.”
You don’t know how to do anything without attaching a donation request.
You don’t know shit.
- http://www.facebook.com/bjorn.h.visser Bjorn Herman Visser
  
  I don’t think the point was that she knew what he was feeling? She might just be TRYING to understand? maybe don’t jump to conclusions so quickly… maybe just love a bit more even towards the people you don’t like. try that.
  - costume
    
    I don’t think the point was that she really cared about any of that stuff. I think she was simply trying to be provocative to raise her profile some more and raise some more money from suckers who buy into her act.
    
    Anybody who thinks Amanda is sincere is woefully naive.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
    
    Bjorn, if Amanda loved a bit more she would never have written an empathetic Poem for Dzhokar. Repugnant, Insensitive. Hateful.
Willie Feo

A Poem For Martin Richard

Martin wrote a project about World Peace while you were getting stoned and making bombs to kill him.

Martin will never grow up and have a cool shaggy rockstar haircut like you.

Martin won’t have a misguided legion of foolish groupies mooning over how badly he was treated.

Martin died with braces on his teeth.

Martin’s skinny little eight year old body was studded with nails and BBs that you stuck into him.

Martin was blown apart in front of his mother and father who loved him.

Martin’s little sister lost her leg.

Fuck you, Dzokhar and everyone who feels sympathy for you.
Larry Palmer

You are not a poet. You’re a sick bowl of puke.
http://www.facebook.com/windy.cheeks.5 Johnny Fandango

Amanda, can you write a poem about what an incredibly pretentious self absorbed jackass you are ? Thanks in advance
trolls

So many trolls. Trolls and trolls and trolls…
GuyMontag

an earlier comment on here:

“I feel it’s so very important to remember that bombers were people. I feel like we’ve all bought tickets to the media circus and we forget that they were people like us.”

Oh, yes, Dzokhar’s certainly a person. And he’s a person whose neck needs a fucking rope tightening around it. He needs to stop breathing, and I’d have no problem dropping out that trap door. I’ll volunteer, dammit.

(oh, and Amanda Palmer, “Coin Operated Boy” sucks.)
cherwin

People talk about being bullied, confused, unhappy, lost blah, blah, blah as reasons or excuses for these kinds of behavior. The truth is it all has to do with radical islam. A religion that teaches that anyone who doesn’t live by their beliefs and values is the enemy and has to die. It is a religion that preaches that Allah will reward you in heaven for killing in the name of the religion.
Until we as Americans accept and believe that this is why these things occur and do something about it, instead of worrying about PC and fear of insulting someone, they will continue to plot and plan and blow us up.
anon

oh thats so rebel and profound…psh you wish you were an artist
anon

I say, publicity stunt. all over
GuyMontag

OK, one more post before I get off of here…I have better things to do than troll on a talentless hack’s website comment section.

What if this guy wasn’t a Muslim? What if, say, the bombing was blamed on Rick Santorum and Todd Akin? I doubt you’d be so sympathetic. You’d probably be leading the mob in a burlesque drum major’s uniform.

this is why I find it impossible to understand liberals. You’re so desperate to be diverse and accepting of everyone, you badmouth your own country’s traditions and have knee-jerk sympathy for a religion that’s far more antiquated than Christianity will ever be.

And guess what? people like Dzhokhar hate social progressives like you far more than they hate people like me. You are doing yourself no favors by sympathizing with this scumbag, dear.
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  http://www.timwise.org/2013/04/terrorism-and-privilege-understanding-the-power-of-whiteness/
  
  The issue is that with ANY individual that does something SO violent, how do we rationalize it?
  If he’s a white American, we seem to be fine with psychopath. Remember sandy hook? No one called him a terrorist. But I’d say opening fire in a school is a pretty deliberate act of terror.
  
  The danger is that with foreigners we seem to never be able to look at JUST THE ONE WHO DID IT. We get so wrapped up in “them” and “their religion” against “us”. Plenty of America is muslim, plenty of horrid acts are committed by christians and OUR government.
  
  We shouldn’t accept this act, but maybe we should pause before we lump whole groups of people under labels.
  - maxonepercent
    
    Problem is that some particular groups of people seem far more inclined toward this sort of thing that others. To deny that reality is insane.
    - http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
      
      Americans seem to think we’re always in the right. That starting wars in other countries, starting take-overs, putting leaders into power (who later become dictators that we start wars with) is all justified. America doesn’t commit acts of violence abroad through subversive terrorist groups, we do it blatantly with our military. isolated acts of terror are the only thing our country has had to face on our soil. We don’t see the destruction of the wars we start.
      
      Make sure you don’t forget we’ve done things too.
      - maxonepercent
        
        I see, so that excuses the wholesale murder of innocent children standing on the street? We have never attacked Chechnya. We gave these people a place to live, gave them welfare, and education. And they turn around and kill innocent Americans in response? Because of some BS they read on the internet? These people never experienced any aggression from Americans. The only victims here are the ones who were killed and maimed and injured in Boston. For some reason I doubt you would be so sympathetic if they had been motivated by Christianity instead of islam. Why don’t you go put on a hijab and hug a terrorist you traitor.
      - http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
        
        No, no, no, this does not excuse murder. No, my point is just that why doesn’t our sympathy extend past our borders? It’s too late to stop this tragedy, but can’t we stop another one? All this pro-life rhetoric, and yet where do most of our tax dollars go? TO WAR.
Mike

Wow. Let me say this, I was close to Boylston when the bombs went off. I sat in stunned silence and watched as the scene unfolded before me. I bought pitchers of beer at the court side bar that afternoon for 6 people that were actually at the blast site and had helped the injured. I then stayed at my friends house, literally one street over from where this Jack ass was sleeping. Despite all this, I read the poem and am not offended. Everyone is going to interpret it as they see fit. My interpretation? Having sat, locked in my office in downtown Boston for 5 hours on Friday while rifles filled the streets and the second jack ass was tracked is that this poem is artistic release for the writer. Anybody that actually lived in this area for last week will on some level struggle with some of the things mentioned in the poem, some will have to come to grips with how close they came to being in those areas, maybe as in my case, a last minute decision to head to another spot in the city saved their life. This coming to grips will show in many different ways: art, anger, dedication, memorials but hopefully most of all in the compassion and understanding that we can show each other when we do eventually express our thoughts on what befell our city.
anon

I hope every cent of your donations go to the victims, I truly do hope your that human.
anon

dont know how to get away from your fucking parents? they are in russia, or some other country. so how far away does he need to be exactly?
john

Lady you full of crap.
Ashley

It makes me sick that so many people are bashing Amanda for writing her feelings. What you guys fail to realize is that she is an amazing artist and her music has gotten me through some shit times (My deployment to Iraq). No not everyone is going to agree with what she has written just like I don’t agree with a lot of the crap you guys are writing. You can perceive her words however you want to but she has a right to write what she feels. More power to you Amanda. I got your 6.
- anonymous
  
  uh-huh. And we have a right to make her an object of ridicule – this is the Internet.
  
  If you write something that’s intentionally controversial, don’t bitch and moan when people take offense.
  - asdf
    
    Yes, yes, we get it, you have freedom of speech, you can be a douchebag all you like. I’m sure your massive penis is just lovely.
    
    However, when you grow up you may learn that just because you can do something doesn’t mean that you should.
    - jennifer626
      
      I assume your statement applies equally to Amanda (substitute genitalia of your choice).
Jean

I was freaked out by how similar my story is to Dzhokhar and Timerlane’s when I read it in the New Yorker. The only difference was NOT that I made the right choice or that I pulled myself up by my own moral bootstraps. No, when I thought there was no way out and that the only place I could ever find any sense of hope was in a radical religion (Christian in my case, think Westboro but worse), the only thing that saved me from ending up in the bottom of a boat watching my iphone battery die was a person. A guy who forced himself into my life when I had closed all the doors to people. Who made me feel compassion, even when I didn’t think I needed it. Who made me see reason, even when I thought I had it. Who gave me hope, when I thought I had no hope left and nothing to lose. He’s my best friend now. And he saved my life. I wrote this poem about it.

A Poem of Me, or My Name is Not Dzhokhar

I am the boy

Without a drop of empathy

I’ve walked a road too hard

And seen too much tragedy

I am the boy

Raised in the place of lack

Saw the horrors we commit

Man to woman, white to black

I am the boy

Uprooted from my family

Transplanted to a new home

Forever feeling so lonely

I am the boy

With one foot here and the other there

Not American, not foreign

Not fitting anywhere

I am the boy

Who feels that no one can know

What its like inside my head

And there’s no way for me to show

I am the boy

Strangled by my darkest dreams

Who will just keep wearing my smiles

Who is not what I seem

I am the boy

So desperate to feel apart

To feel included and understood

To not live with this broken heart

I am the boy

Who finally found relief

Found the people who understand

Found the ones who share my grief

I am the boy

Directing all my energy

Pouring all into the cause

That finally makes me feel free

I am the boy

Who has made a terrible mistake

Who has placed my trust in someone false

Who has to live with new heartbreak

I am the boy

Who might never understand

Might never see the bigger picture

Always writing it off as some divine plan

I am the boy

Who has earned all of my shame

Who has made the choices to harm others

Who is the only one to blame

I am the boy

Who cannot be held at fault

Who felt like I had no other options

Who didn’t take the easy way out

I am the boy

Who just needed to have a friend

Who just needed someone to care

Who could have prevented this bitter end

I am a boy

My name is not Dzhokar

But my story was almost his

Had a kind stranger not stopped me before I fell too far
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  And this is why empathy is important, not to justify or side with terrorists, but to wonder would we do the same in their situation? Thank you for your story.
- FF866
  
  The ability to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes and feel empathy without casting judgement is everything. The ability to love and try to understand each other is everything. I think your poem is excellent.
DZHJYVOKHAR TSAYZRNYEV

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Woden13

This is a wonderful poem. Great work as always, Amanda. Many of the people who dislike it simply don’t understand poetry.
- harrison
  
  haha
daurntchaunrOES

The poem encapsulates the sadness of this insensible act. I get it as a voyeur looking in at Boston from the safety of my home far, far away, and I think I understand the hope that you are expressing that Dzhokar feels the sadness and pain of his indescribably callous and heinous actions. And, for the commentary about this “being all about Amanda,” I would humbly submit that art, in some respect, is always about the artist. I believe that Amanda, trying to cope with the grief she’s experiencing, overlays her emotions onto the act — and being creative, expresses that pain in the voice of an artist.
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  I would extend that one step further. Our reactions to art often tell us more about ourselves than the artist.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
    
    I agree. My disgust with Amanda’s poem tells me I have good judgment.
Julie

It has to be about everyone even if it is about Dzjokhar because we’re all connected. Even if we run or hide from it, there’s a part of that killer in all of us. I think Dzjokhar as well as a lot of other people who commit these atrocities do it for the same reason I want to smash my mirror sometimes. The external world is a mirror for us and when I want to smash something outside of myself want I really want to do is destroy the thing in me that I have come to view as ugly, bad or unacceptable. I’ve been exluded from my family because of my sexuality and because I’ve basically been deemed broken and useless to them. When something as foundational as my family was ripped from me you bet your ass I wanted to destroy something, but its only because I viewed it as a life or death situation. Either I lose my family/tribe and die, or I sacrifice my inner reality and die an equally painful death. As I gain acceptance foe these things within myself the mirror itself doesn’t change but my reflection back to me, in my own mind does. And as I do this I’m able to reflect that same acceptance back to those around me and I’m starting to realize everyone I thought was out to get me was just as terrified of being destroyed. I think Amanda does a beautiful job of showing the fragility and uncertainty of life. And in a way, also the resiliency. Alienation seems to be a theme. “Punching my broken nose will heal it.” Said no one EVER. Real art unifies and Amanda is as true an artist as I’ve ever seen.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=656855901 Elaine Ileina Ahnee

Despicable! Looks to me someone is trying to get their 5 minutes of fame.
- sdaf
  
  She’s been famous for over 10 years now.
  - RealityCheck131
    
    Never heard of her.
    - asd
      
      Well, that’s that then, stranger on the internet! I forgot about how you personally were the arbiter of celebrity.
ogunsiron

I’m curious.

Had dzhokar been named Jake and had he been a white, lacrosse player type (iow, had he been David Sirota’s dream suspect), would most of you express sympathy for him ?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  Bingo. Never! And no way in a million years would Amanda Palmer write a poem for him.
OY VEY!

You are definitely, mentally retarded, Amanda Palmer.
fyouell

A Poem For Martin Richard

by Willie Feo

Martin wrote a project about World Peace while you were getting stoned and making bombs to kill him.

Martin will never grow up and have a cool shaggy rockstar haircut like you.

Martin won’t have a misguided legion of foolish groupies mooning over how badly he was treated.

Martin died with braces on his teeth.

Martin’s skinny little eight year old body was studded with nails and BBs that you stuck into him.

Martin was blown apart in front of his mother and father who loved him.

Martin’s little sister lost her leg.

Fuck you, Dzokhar and everyone who feels sympathy for you.
http://twitter.com/freestaterevolt August West

Oh gag, am I in Poetry 101 in my freshman year again?
http://www.facebook.com/lea.merclova Lea Merclova

I cannot believe we still have religions in 21st century!

The big thinkers and people who changed our world to the modern society new centuries ago what a fraud it is.

Most of us know it for some decades. Yet we still have the “crusaders” and people believe that one religion is more truthful than the other, young people are driven to this nonsense for a lack of real purpose in life and proper education.

The guy is a victim of religious fanaticism as well as people from America, people from Burma,people from Middle East…….

And yes, they Don’t know the way….anywhere…..
Queenbee

Seems to me, that it would have been easier to title this something other what you chose. I was angry after reading it and even started writing a tirade. But then I saw where you posted how this poem “came to be” so I took a look. Other than being a little wordy, I think I understood what you were attempting to convey. Perhaps a more appropriate, and less inflammatory title would have been “A Poem for Boston” seeing as how you were trying to convey your feelings and the feelings of an entire city during those nightmarish hours and days. I’d like to think that you didn’t name it what you did in order to get attention. Or maybe you did. As far as having empathy for these terrorists goes…I just can’t. I can’t put myself into the skin of someone whose sole intent is to create mass injury and death and terror. Especially since, by most accounts, he was a nice, normal guy. His parents said he was “an angel.” If he was “misunderstood” it was because he wanted to be. He didn’t want to blow is image because that would create suspicion and suspicion leads to unwanted attention and terrorists can’t have unwanted attention. Sympathy? I have loads and LOADS of it…for the people whose lives were forever changed that day, either because they lost a loved one or a part of themselves to the bombs that went off. I have much sympathy and gratitude for all the first responders who experienced the terrifying moments the bombs went off, saw unimaginable horrors, and helped anyway. I’m sorry their lives will never be the same for having seen what they saw. I’m sorry for the city of Boston. A city beloved by so many in this country and steeped in so much history, but will be forever scarred by the events that day. You have empathy for this monster and his brother? Good for you. You must be a better person than I! But I think that this is not an instant of “seek first to understand.” I think that this is an instance of “the intent was understood, and crystal clear.” This isn’t a high school kid going to his school and targeting individuals who bullied him and made his life miserable. This isn’t some mentally ill person going on a rampage. It was a very clearly thought out and deliberate attack meant to cause mass damage and harm. SORRY! Can’t empathize with that mentality. Just CAN’T.
Cecilia

Its like Amanda Todd all over again. When are you going to stop using other peoples tragedies to boast your own career?
JennyLovesJava

I want to believe that he is a confused, scared, misguided kid. I want so badly for this to be true. If it’s true, then your sentiments are so important for us all to remember. I want to believe that his heart wasn’t hardened by hate that caused him to mature all too quickly into a willful killer believing that his god approves of and even requires his horrendous actions. I want to believe, and I will until some truth is revealed that proves I am wrong, but I am so afraid that that my faith is misplaced. I am afraid, but for now I will believe, and I will pray for that confused, scared, misguided kid.
- maxonepercent
  
  Well there is this picture:
  
  http://www.ironicsurrealism.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Dzhokhar_Martin_Richard_Bomb_11.jpg
  
  As you can see he placed the bomb directly behind that family, he had to have known innocent chldren would die. That is pure evil, not the actions of some “confused, scared, misguided kid”.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
    
    Amanda doesn’t care about the blown up Martin kid. His story is not poetically edgy enough.
  - Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
    
    maxonepercent,David Bruck former defense attorney of Dzhokhar said last year on trial that no video does exist of showing Dzhokhar placing a bomb near the family.Google “Boston Marathon Bomber caught on camera detonating bombs” and it is not the Tsarnaev brothers who have the rem,ote control in their hands.Look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you.
JuJu

I enjoyed your poem. I care about people and wish that more people reached out to help instead of hating. If only someone could have reached out to him and gave him a hug and showed him love….
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  LOL
Winston Sayre

Wow, nihilist anonymous, a 12 step pathway to hell! I try to look for the best in people, but the hate of Islam has not only become the damper to a civil society, but an unenlightened path to the abyss! I’d put
a copy of this poem in my bird cage but I’d be afraid my bird would die of constipation rather than to add to redundancy. I’m not a hater, and I do not hate you, I pity your feel good, self deceptive idea of enlightenment.
bikerbill

How do you generate sympathy for killers? They come from a wartorn part of the world, are welcomed in the U.S., educated, permitted citizenship … what do we have to apologize to them for? Islam is a feudal throwback that treats women like chattel, supports “honor” killings for the tiniest slight and in its holiest book, the Koran, calls for the death or enslavement of those who follow a different religion or refuse to convert. Political correctness is just another form of tyranny; it’s time to start profiling Muslims and clear out the bad ones immediately. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but just about every terrorist is a Muslim …
- http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
  
  Timothy McVeigh — not a Muslim. Eric Rudolph — not a Muslim. Ted Kaczynski — not a Muslim. Weather Underground — not Muslims. The Red Faction in Berlin — not Muslims. The Irish Republican Army — not Muslims.
  
  What was that again about “just about every terrorist is a Muslim”?
  - maxonepercent
    
    How about this: every terrorist in the 21st century has been a muslim, get with the times…
    - http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
      
      In the first decade of the 21st century, ETA, an armed Basque separatist movement, has committed more than 100 acts of terrorism, mainly in Spain (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ETA_attacks#2000-2009 ). They are not Muslims.
      
      Although the guilt of Bruce Ivins in the 2001 Anthrax letter attacks in the United States has been called into question, there has never been a single shred of evidence that they were perpetrated by Muslims. Likewise, although authorities have dropped charges against their initial suspect, all indications point to a non-Muslim, domestic terrorist in the recent Ricin letter attacks.
      
      You may be content projecting your prejudices against Muslims onto the very concept of terror itself, but I am not. Terrorism is a tool that can be used by any extremist, from any political, religious, or other perspective. Furthermore, your prejudices in fact exacerbate the problem by confirming the stereotypes of Americans as ignorant and bigoted–stereotypes that reenforce the suspicions that form part of the distorted worldview of extremist Islamists.
      - maxonepercent
        
        The best you can come up with are extremely regionalized Basque separatists and the Anthrax mailings that didn’t claim a single victim? Look, failing to recognize the inherent tendency towards religiously-motivated violence that is evident in modern Islam everywhere that it exists today is totally irrational.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/ProphetKevin-Ives/1644274188 ProphetKevin Ives
        
        Hmmm… Well there was the dude that shot all those people at the Sikh temple last year. Killed more people than the Boston Marathon bombing. And really, while we’re at it, um the dude that shot up the movie theater had a bunch of shit to make bombs too. There was also a skinhead that killed a security officer at the Holocaust museum. In Florida, a couple of years ago, there was a pipe bombing at a mosque. Someone stuck a pipe bomb at at a MLK parade two years ago, but it was picked up before it could go off. The Norwegian Massacre and bombings was probably one of the bigger acts of terrorism since 9/11. Then there are Loyalists in Ireland, and they are blowing up shit too right now. The Gabrielle Giffords shooter wasn’t Muslim either and even though the dude was crazy, he was committing an act of political terror. Wasn’t there a dude that flew a plane into an IRS building? Yes there was. The Sri Lankans? Ya. There have been a lot of suicide bombings and terrorist attacks in Sri Lanka in the last decade, mostly done by Hindus. There was a casino fire in Mexico in 2011 that caused the deaths of 52 people. A lot of that stuff that goes on in the drug war is terrorism. I could go on, but I won’t.
      - maxonepercent
        
        Semantics. It is not terrorism unless it is carried out for specifically political or religious motivations. The best way to view it would be the difference between a criminal act and an act of war. Admittedly the guy who shot up the temple could definitely be considered terrorism, as well as the Norway attacks and the Holocaust museum. However, look at the ratios. Muslims make up a tiny percentage of the population yet they account for the majority of terrorist attacks. I understand the desire to avoid prejudice but there comes a point where you have to put the idealism aside and deal with reality.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
        
        Nice try Nathaniel, but you are attempting to defend the indefensible. The Quran teaches that it’s perfectly acceptable to kill infidels. Read it sometime. BTW, unlike Christians, Muslims are required to take the Quran literally.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
    
    Worldwide terrorism is probably 99.9% Muslim. The truth is painful, but that doesn’t mean we should deny it.
agboerum@yahoo.com

Free verse does not always constitute poetry, and a boundless uninformed interpretation of the feelings of someone else does not constitute thoughtfulness. As I read this, and if were to briefly imagine myself as the subject, I would respond to each question differently (yes/no/what the fuck are you talking about Amanda). What was your intended effect? To highlight your lyrical ineptitude? To project a world showcase upon yourself? To stink up my morning with regret of wasted time? As always, Amanda, you keep me reading, but for all the wrong reasons.
Mattgb

Krystle Campbell, 29
Lü Lingzi, 23
Martin Richard, 8
You don’t know how it feels to die.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  This is an infinitely better poem than the trash Amanda Palmer wrote in tribute the man who killed them. Sad that Palmer couldn’t find another topic to write about. You know, there is a shortage of topics for poetry. Utterly vile.
Krys Fox

i love you Amanda. (you know that) And I love those of you who hate this. (you may not know why) But I hate the pain and the hurt. And by slinging hate, you must know folks, you are adding to the pain.

Beautiful poem AFP, keep creating and keep feeling and keep loving hard.

xoxo foxy
- Johnny Alpha
  
  By loving and excusing terrorists you are helping to create more of them. You think “loving hard” will excuse you from being butchered by them but that is all just pink fuzzy bunny rabbits and unicorns. Nice try though.
http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell

I wonder if you could please explain why it is that you endow with the name of “poetry,” a work such as this, which possesses not a single poetical attribute? It has neither rhythm nor rhyme, neither alliteration nor assonance, nor any form of poetical structure.

When did prose, spiced up with a few extra adjectives or anaphora and with random line breaks inserted, suddenly jump the compositional boundary into poetry?
- Dustin Doss
  
  About the mid-1960s, if you’re asking.
  
  I recommend looking up Postmodernism, Black Mountain College, the Beat Movement, and specifically Allen Ginsberg if you want a good luck at some of the most accomplished and skilled poets who ascribe to this style.
  
  More importantly though, art is defined by those who make it – if Mrs. Palmer says she is writing poetry, then that is as valid of a definition as any.
  - http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
    
    If only it were so, I would declare myself whatever it was I wanted to be and–presto!–it would be. Art by personal fiat? What kind of imaginary world do you live in? And are you really going to compare this drivel with “Howl”?
    
    (By the way, I’m very well acquainted with post-modernism, post-structuralism, post-post-modernism, new historicism, and our current fad with obejct-oriented-ontologies. It is not at all clear to me that Ms. Palmer, however, has any idea what she’s doing. Rather, it seems to me that she’s been told all her life that dribbling some pablum onto a piece of paper or into a computer and declaring it “emotive” is sufficient to raise the most pedestrian sort of rambling words into “art”. Again, if only personal fiat were so effective!)
    - Dustin Doss
      
      We could spend years debating the definition and threshold of “art”, to little avail. It’s worth keeping in mind though, among the most prototypical purposes of art is the expression of emotion, which this certainly falls under. I think the very fact that Amanda’s words have evoked such emotions–be they positive, negative, empathetic, angry, or what-have-you–shows the power that they hold. If they really were so easily dismissed as “drivel” then we wouldn’t be discussing them.
      
      Of course a ten-minute stream-of-conscious poem by a modern musician/songwriter holds little in comparison to one of the most defining poems of the American 20th century; that wasn’t my point. All I was trying to say with that was that traditional structure is not a necessary component of poetry, and that isn’t exactly a new concept.
      - http://nathaniel-campbell.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel M. Campbell
        
        I suppose my problem is this: calling a piece such as that above “poetry” so broadens and degrades the term as to make it useless as a designation of compositional form.
        
        This ten-minute-stream-of-consciousness is not a poem — it is at best poetical prose. The specific power of poetry is that it stretches and contorts and presses normal language into extraordinary feats of signification, precisely because of the limits and constraints that it places on that language.
        
        The only “poetical” feature of this “poem” is its anaphora — but the expressions that follow each repetition of “you don’t know” are entirely prosaic. They have neither the features nor the potency of poetry.
      - idontknow
        
        nice comment! You go, Nathaniel.
  - RealityCheck131
    
    I define my comment here as poetry. Clearly it is so.
differentisntdifferentnemore

Being different because you are is courageous, being different because you demand attention is just sad. I feel this entire woman’s livlihood is just a sad manipulation of those looking for something to relate to. This poem and her “art” in general, are sad and cliche. She falsley manifests some struggle that her and Dzhokhar have in common. FAKE.FAIL
BigAustin

Total rubbish, Amanda knows nothing about this boy and is simply exploiting the tragedy to make some headlines. It’s reprehensible.
maxonepercent

When you hear people ranting about how much they hate liberals, this is why. This monster killed an innocent 8-year old boy whose only crime was standing next to his parents watching a sporting event. Fuck anyone who wants to support this garbage,
http://twitter.com/xulie xulie

I think some of the reasons we fail as a society is because we have failed to empathize with people, and if empathize sounds too strong at least we should be curious.
Is lack of curiosity and empathy the reason we do not understand our corrupt politicians, our obnoxious coworkers, our bullies, our selfish bosses, our terrorists. Yes, they all are ours. We have contributed to their creation. We need to understand why to know how.
It is not enough if you’re an exemplary father if you judge your neighbor, if you ask for his blood for the barbaric act he just committed. It frightens me how people now believes so easily the media stories but fail to empathize or to even try to understand why did that happened, how they do not ask for justice but call for vengeance. When these people ask for revenge they’re no less terrorists than the Tsarnave brothers.
If they fail we fail, if our children fail we fail as parents, if our friends fail we fail as friends. We must understand we are connected, like it or not.
We will never get the right answers if we don’t ask the right questions. We will never find solutions if we don’t want to understand the problem. There is a saying: Put yourself in the shoes of others, but no one does that anymore.
If you empathize or feel sorry for someone else it doesn’t mean that you agree with what this person did, it shows that you are human and that you understand. The world belongs to people with curiousity, only with curiosity we’ll get answers, not by believing what we get so easy from the media. Think, ask, empathize, act. Do not let them decide for you or you will be failing, and if you fail we all fail.
Mikime

Thinking of all that happened and all the discussions and of national poetry month, I was reminded of this :
“THE BURIAL OF THE DEAD
APRIL is the cruellest month,breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.”

It’s the very beginning of T. S. ELIOT’s The WasteLand, of course.
(I couldn’t read ALL the comments, not sure if someone else already quoted it… Sorry for the repetition… Although repetitions help memorising, and memorising poetry is such a great, advisable, fun activity! :-))
Love to all!
Brian

It is self-destruction of a really great musical career. As a fan I am sad, and as a person reading all of this self-promotion for donations, I am embarrassed. I don’t know if I am a fan anymore. I don’t know what this BS is really intended to provoke. Disappointed.
ivorytickler

major tom to ground to control … the system (capitalist democracy) appears to be broken. can you hear me major tom?
- ivorytickler
  
  oops our utmost propitiations peoples, must give cudos to the ‘hitting an all-time low’ ever eclectic ….drum roll please …. david robert jones (david bowie) for the word-smith-some. hmmm hey honey (amanda) there’s a horny duet just waitin’ to be born.
RealityCheck131

The whole donation thing here? Yuck.
http://Revelinitmag.com/ Paula Puryear Martin

Surprised by the violence and vitriol in this comment thread. It seems to bespeak a lack of clarity about the function of art in the culture, and a dearth of tools for processing intense emotional pain in the face of trauma and tragedy. We must learn to do something with our grief besides turn it into rage and hate. Amanda wrote a poem. A poem. It is not an apologia. It is not a treatise on what the 19 year old bomber whose name she invoked actually felt or thought. The title is simply a literary device and the work an attempt to make sense of the unfathomable and be present with the real complexity at the heart of what has occurred.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas
  
  Bullshit! If Amanda wrote a similar poem for, say, an abortion clinic bomber or a KKK member, those defending her now would be the ones expressing violence and vitriol. Calling it “art” doesn’t make it right. The poem is a vile tribute to a man who blew the legs and arms off women and children. “You don’t know how to mourn your brother?” and “you don’t know why people run their goddamned knees in the ground anyway?” This is much more than mere empathy. It is the author taking the killer’s side. HE is the victim because his brother was killed and those damn marathon runners deserved to die because it’s stupid to run 26 miles. The poem is horrific and MUST have felt that way when it was being written. It’s sadistic and disgusting no matter how stridently Ms. Palmer claims it is merely “art.”
cautionkelly

Its crazy how there are harsh things that most don’t, nor wouldn’t, experience thrown in between all the normal teenage feelings and things. Yet, it works. I have a hard time feeling empathetic towards the terrorist that killed and maimed so many for life. But being seen as just another teen, who makes mistakes, and has a life, and was confused, just brings a new sense of understanding to this completely incomprehensible and sad situation.
thatseemslikealotofbutter

if i was someone different

a boy, not a girl

if i had an older brother and he loved me

and he told me the truth and he told me

it was the only truth i was supposed to believe

i would not know how to stop

when the moment came and we were there with all the people

when i was young i learned that our country, my country

herded japanese people during the war into camps

and i remember thinking, like hitler? like hitler.

and when i told my dad how horrified this made me

he said it was what we had to do, because you cannot

know where someone’s loyalty lies and you have to

protect yourself

i do not know how he came to think this or what i could have said

after he told me how disappointed he was that i disagreed

it feels almost impossible to be loved by someone and know

they are not always right

if i had an older brother who had smiled at me since the moment i was born

i would not know how to think he was wrong

about the most important things

i had an older brother and he died two years

before i was even born

if he had lived

i do not know who i would be
Andrew

I grew up near Boston. I love Boston. The bombing upset me more than I was prepared for.

There is nothing offensive in this poem. This is art. Does no one ever wonder what it’s like to be a criminal? A killer? A terrorist? An outcast? To be young and confused, and one day doing absolutely the wrong thing because of it?

I think people are offended by this poem because it diminishes the distance people want to put between themselves and those who commit evil acts.

Artists are supposed to make us ask difficult questions. Being offended is easy. Thinking is hard.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  Can’t it be “art” AND insensitive, at the same time?
  - http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
    
    absolutely. Look at the backgrounds of many famous composers, artists….care is not always given for the subject, for the audience. Art is what it is.
Biff

I wonder who feels mores stylistically ripped off by this ‘poem’, the ghost of Ginsberg or Cara Ellison.
Kiki

as a parent, I found this to be beautiful. Many I know could not understand how I empathized for this young man as he lay in hiding, bleeding in a boat, knowing that his life was over. Possibly wanting to hit a rewind button. Yes. He is an adult. He knew what he was doing. But did he really? He is 19. He’s still a child in many, many ways. He acted as an adult and will and should be tried as an adult. BUT just remember 19… how impressionable were you? how invincible did you feel? did the bottom ever drop out of your world? Was there someone who could convince you to jump off a bridge, eat a cockroach, drink and drive?
I can’t imagine where his head and heart were while he lay bleeding, hiding – knowing that his brother was dead. Can anyone? he’s still a human being that somewhere in his very short life, something changed. Something or someone convinced him that this was the only way.

he’s a baby who’s now realizing exactly the gravity of his decisions. his life is over. Yes it is awful. Yes innocent people died and were maimed at his hands. He will be punished. rightfully so. but somewhere a little boy wanted his life back. that’s the sad part.

thank you, Amanda.
- FF866
  
  I share the empathy. I have empathy for the victims. I also have it for Jahar. He is going to take the full punishment alone. Had his brother been alive, he may have received a lesser sentence, but I think he’s “holding the bag” (no pun) since his brother is dead. I think you wrote a masterful and moving response to this poem. I wish I could turn back the clock myself so Jahar would have a second chance, and so would his brother’s victims (note I said his BROTHER’S victims)…..
  - Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
    
    FF866 yes Dzhokhar is holding the full bag so to speak but not because he is responsible for what he was accused of but because he was pressured into this madness.Please look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you!Dzhokhars last “confession and apology was not his writing but from his own defense Judy Clarke.You can obtain the information that Judy Clarke is in the know of Dzhokhars innocence up to this day from the information above and she has pressured Dzhokhar into his “last confession and apology”Dzhokhar was framed and betrayed completely by his own former defense.He should get the chance of retrial.
BV

Another talentless White self hating liberal hack. Go spout your hippy crap in Roxbury, see how well the homies like it.
BostonSadness

I don’t know what drove this boy to do these horrible things to my city and these people, I don’t know how he could walk away and go to school like nothing happened. But…. I do know what it is like to see someone you love and cherish do monstrous things, and struggle to separate the monstrous acts from the human who committed them. And go back – and forth – and back – and forth. Black and white are easy. But life has color. You don’t know what was in his head, but you put yourself in his shoes, and I think that is art. It was a brave poem. Only time will tell us what brought him to such evil. But once there was a good boy there. And your poem reminds us.
compassionate

thank you for looking at humanity within all people
http://twitter.com/artfulgaby Gaby Smith

It amazes me how people read poetry as fact or definition–like the way they would read an article or anything else. It’s an ART-FORM. Art is a perspective. So many people are assigning their own meaning to it, which is what art makes us do–but it’s our invention, not necessarily her message (which BTW I think is about compassion, not justification).
What I get from it is that she wants us to see how significant AND insignificant our lives can be, not just his. I feel it’s a poem about everyone, with a few lines thrown in for Dzhokhar. Maybe to help us see how alike (and different) we are from him. But, I don’t know and I’m certainly not going to throw stones at an artist. Those are are really upset and angry about this are showing themselves to be more like the attacker.
- Johnny Alpha
  
  It doesn’t matter one infinitesimal shit whether this is defined as art or not. Artists, like everyone else, express their opinions and they don’t have any special protections or immunity, just because they are artists, from being criticized for those opinions. If anything, they have a greater responsibility, not less, for what they say because they know the power of the written word.
http://twitter.com/emannyv Manny Velazquez

This is glorious! We’ve brought your words to life, Amanda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDGaqGOkss0
- Bostonian
  
  hilarifukingous!
bobby fischer

ten years ago we had steve jobs, bob cash, and johnny hope; now we have no job, no cash, and no hope
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  that sucks. I want hope!
rogerlb

Thank you for having the bravery to try to put the confusion (rather than the reason, or the justification, or the game plan) into words, and to quietly, determinedly defend that action when you realized that was actually a brave thing. <3
- Johnny Alpha
  
  There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BRAVE about preaching to your own choir.
http://www.facebook.com/creiss Christopher Reiss

This is beautiful, insightful and brave.
james

HAHAHAHAHAHA fucking retard
http://twitter.com/writerjax jaclyn stevenson

It’s a look into his mind, and an inner look into her own – alternating back and forth in a dissonant way just as our thoughts did that week. Good poetry vs bad is subjective. This is a soul search, not a love song.
Andrea Robertson

I’m not offended by the idea of trying to think about or write about people like Dzjokhar in a sympathetic way, but this is a little tone deaf. When I was in my MFA program, I translated some of the (understandably so ) untranslated work of Fadwa Tuqan, a poet from Palestine. Fadwa was a complicated lady, she wrote love poetry at a time when it wasn’t really acceptable for Arab women…and heartbreakingly beautiful elegies for suicide bombers. I don’t read Arabic I worked collaboratively with a native speaker, and it was UNCOMFORTABLE how Tuqan cut me straight to the heart with what she was framing as a hero’s tale of someone doing something I found absolutely abhorrent, and for my collaborator to speak those rough-translated words in the first place. But those are valuable poems, because they do make the argument that people who do awful things are not 100% evil , sometimes they’re hopeless and furious and choose to do an evil thing.

BUT the difference is, Tuqan was from Palestine. She lived through the occupation, she knew the culture first hand. Again, super uncomfortable for a pacifist translator like me, Fadwa made no bones about her belief that violence was a valid tactic for freedom. Her work can be really, really painful because of that, but it’s a pain worth listening to as a Westerner, because even if we don’t agree with the “Why”, she does explain some of it (again, in painfully eloquent metaphor). She knew the struggle her subject was facing, and she met his family, so it was less speculation/ papering over the kid’s identity like this is. I think that’s pretty key. Also 99% sure she didn’t publish said poem less than a week after it happened. Not saying she was a great literary heroine for writing that in the first place, I am saying that there is merit in this kind of thinking, but I don’t see it in this poem.
- mary
  
  This is an interesting response – thank-you. I wish people responding here could contrast the above (in my opinion) nonsense with these poems by Tuqan.
  
  It’s interesting, despite being American by birth, I have incredible empathy for the Palestinian position. After all, the Palestinians are a people under siege. Their land was forcibly taken away; they’ve been sequestered; they live under sanctions; their children are hungry. I understand the pent-up anger that takes the form of violence when any individual is so powerless. But through life circumstances, I’ve been in that position myself, and maybe that’s why I empathize so deeply, and perhaps even experience some projection.
  
  It’s the Israeli acts that I find difficult to sympathize with: the fanatical Orthodox pushing their settlements into the arid desert up against the Palestinians who have already lost so much, the young soldiers tormenting people of so little power passing through their checkpoints, the political will of part of a population to prevent any concessions to a people who have already suffered so much. Anyway, it’s just interesting to see the difference in our perspectives. I wonder what kind of poem you would write about the Occupation.
FuckingAmandaPalmer

There were three victims too many in that bombing and yet one victim too few, it seems.
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  damn, and you call her insensitive?
torn

Amanda, this is amazing. Thank you for being brave enough to share. I am speechless.
Bob

It’s like staring into the sun, if the sun was a giant burning pile of fail. I cannot even begin to describe it. If the attempt is to be ironic, about being ironic, and then reversing that and trying to be serious, but ironically, then she succeeded.
If the attempt is to stir up emotions in the reader, she has failed. After reading it, a little part of my soul died. If you can imagine that numb feeling that happens in the middle of the night when you lie on your side too much and your arm falls asleep, spread that over your entire body and that would be what I feel at this moment. Just like my arm falling asleep, this poem just makes me want to roll over and forget it ever happened.
I can’t see why anyone would get angry about it, since I actually believe it killed any ability I have to emotionally connect with any other human being. I could now watch puppies being strangled and I don’t know if I could muster the desire to even look away. I am now dead inside. From now until every star in the sky burns out, until the last drop of matter is torn apart, until the last singularity in the heavens evaporates in a puff of x-rays and hawking radiation, I will never again know joy, pain, or any emotion for that matter. It is the abyss that stares back into your soul and murders hope itself. This poem should be read by any man who is doomed, for he will not fear dying and feel no pain.
- http://www.facebook.com/hannah.schuetz Hannah Schuetz
  
  perhaps sir, you are a poet yourself? What was the depth of your intention with this little display of colorful writing?
crimson halo

Interesting response to the event. It’s as though you convey a sense of innocence about him and his brother, naivite gone wrong. Sadly that isn’t the case … the reports just keep on coming about these two and their parents, whose uninvolved/criminal lifestyles no doubt made at least some small contribution to their kids’ unbelievable shallowness.

There is always opportunity to turn away from a damaged past … if you will it.

These two didn’t.

These two chose to self-segregate and fill themselves with hate propaganda while distancing themselves from all of the people in the community who actually gave two shits about them.

These two acted of their own volition because they had it in their heads that selfishness, violence, expedience, and solipsism were the way to go, in spite of the fact so many in the community were trying desperately to reach out and right the wrongs.

These two were hopeless. If they even pretend to care about the chaos they’ve created it would only be with the expectation of doing so to receive a lighter sentence.
Namor

Lol “donate”.. who is she Zach Braff?
Guest

What a joke!

The United Snakes of Amnesia kills people by the score DAILY and you expect the rest of the world to stop and mourn when a handful of your own are killed?

Stories in the news yesterday about the female victim who decided to have her foot amputated. She was a ‘little Eichmann” who worked for Raytheon – the maker of ‘smart bombs’ for drones.

In other words, she was a miniature war-profiteer.

So no, I DON’T feel sorry for her or any of the little Eichmanns when their karma comes back to them
dedeboomboom

Wow, you suck.
l.d.

I feel such a fierce, compelling need to defend this poem and this writer that i’m having trouble putting it into words. when tragedy occurs, what can you do but make it about you? how else do you internalize and process what on earth just happened?

and if you see something like this happen, and you look at the people who got so hurt, and you look at the people who hurt them, and you have a choice: you can focus on healing, and send positive energy, and do all that junk that sounds psuedo-spiritual but actually does kind of work, or you can scream for blood and for revenge from your sofas without even thinking of what that actually means to people who are first people and then monsters, or victims, or news-watching hypocrites, or whatever.

i’m sure this same point, this same END THE CYCLE NOW rant has happened a million times, but it made me feel better to show support. and i’m not sorry i made it about me.
http://www.facebook.com/IgorGold Igor Goldkind

empathy. and connectedness. good to hear the buddha owning experience and reflecting. good to hear humanity on a granular level.
you don’t know free verse

True congratulations are in order. I couldn’t have written a more trite, pandering, self-serving pile of crap if I had 10 years of free time and the help of 1000 chimps randomly banging on word processors. I can only hope the 5 minutes I wasted on this are added back at the end of my life.
Inge

I’m reading a lot of comments, and wonder why most of you fill in eachothers thoughts? You don’t know the reasons behind the acts, (poems and bomb blasts) until you ask the person who did it…..
I really whish people would fill in less and show empathy more….

Think about these facts for a moment:

To acts of violence:
Afghanistan, 6 april: 17 civilians (including 12 children) killed in U.S. airstrike
Boston, 15 april: 3 civilians killed during bomb blasts Boston marathon

Everything is connected; the good and the bad.
Mindfulmoon

I think this is a beautiful poem that is trying to express the complexity of the psychology of a person who might do something like that. I think it is brave and moving.

Whether we want to believe it or not. there is a part of each of us that is capable of harming others. We all have a dark part. If we label the suspects “monsters” we are telling ourselves that they are “not us”. But the truth is they ARE us. The only difference is that you who are criticizing the most loudly are the ones who are able to keep your shit together. Your secret is that no one knows how you do this: maybe you have too many cocktails at night, get a thrill out of pushing your kids around, or maybe you are a nightmare to work with. You too have outlets for these dark feelings, and there is no way you can tell me that they are all pretty.

Does this excuse what he did? Absolutely not. But by not cultivating curiosity and wondering more about the emotional and psychological answers to “why”, we miss the opportunity to look at ourselves and tell the truth.
- Emma
  
  YES.
EZD

Amanda thank you for the art you do. Thank you for putting yourself out there into this. I think you are amazing
– An appreciative fan
Matt

Dear Amanda,

You don’t know how to use the English language.
http://www.facebook.com/martin.neidhardt.3 Martin Neidhardt

Fuck the haters! “Art should comfort the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable”
- chefjuan
  
  You managed to find a quote from a “poet” whose “art” sucks even harder than Amanda Palmer’s.
- valentina
  
  i like your quote, but, in this case i think would be more aproppriate to say “love the haters!” don’t you think…
Anon

This “poem” is just awful for so many reasons.
GoEatAFucking Cheezeburger

You’d been better off writing the truth about he and the brother being pawns or patsy’s. This isn’t very good, and don’t fuck with MOZ bitch!
http://twitter.com/casey_julia Julia Casey

I’m doing a presentation on this poem and your post explaining it for my philosophy of aesthetics class, and the first several times I read the poem I didn’t notice that “through” was used twice in the second line. At first I thought, ‘oh hey, maybe it’s a typo,’ but that’s not necessarily true. Since you’ve explained the intent behind the poem so much already, is it alright to ask if the second “through” is intentional? This isn’t an attempt to question the integrity or quality of your work, but just to understand it better.
deliah

Wow. Reading this ton of hateful comments I just stopped wondering about a lot of things that happen in the US. Seems that your mindset is much closer to Dzhokar’s than Amanda’s could ever be.
http://www.facebook.com/mikhail.reitz Mikhail Reitz

I think you wrote this to yourself, and maybe to people in general. I believe we can respond to a tragedy in our own way, and I believe you are very brave Amanda, being in your position and taking risks that you do by expressing yourself. You are one of the most authentic entertainers out there today in my opinion, and you really inspire me and give me hope, and for that I thank you. I actually spent a part of today listening to your songs I relate to, and I only actually found out about this poem and the controversy surrounding it half an hour ago. All I can say is people are confused, like you said, and angry, and they are venting some of that anger at you now. Stay the beautiful person you are and just keep on doing what you are doing. I think your the type of person who can’t help but do just that , because of your obvious passion. kind regards , Mikhail Reitz
Craisus

Such monsters that they havn’t had a trial yet and the people have not been shown any evidence that they did it.Pathetic.
First there were no bomb drills while they were blasting the warning over loud speakers.
FBI and company were ALL over the finish line at the time of the bombing. Then they simply said, nuh’uh! No bomb drils!
Then we have audio of Dzhokar screaming “CHILL OUT WE DIDN’T DO IT!” while he’s being shot at.Next he’s in a boat involved in a gun BATTLE with police. What a monster..oh, wait, HE WAS UNARMED! But didn’t they say….but they said…but they said! They said it!? We don’t need evidence and a trial or to hear fist hand accounts in a courtroom right! That’s communist thinking our great leaders know it all! More pathetic.
Kid wasn’t supposed to make it, that was an attempted hit. Now it’s clean up time, so he’s bleeding and full of holes hooked up to an I.V. half concience he spills all. But NOT in a courtroom. He even confessed to JFK’s murder after they left the room..I HEAR! I hear a lot.
Now they are saying that the bomb was made in Tamerlans apartment yet his wife didn’t know a thing.And a bunch of fireworks was aparently a better source of explosive that gunpowder from any shop, ot homeade plastique from cleaners(terrorists are GOOD at that sort of thing), or hell, model rocket engines which would be way more potent. And his wife missed all of this.
You democracy theorists need to take off your tinfoil hats.
And this could all be true. They still, possibly could have done it. But the ONLY REAL problem
is that the media won’t allow anyone to wait for a court to even consider it.
Sad. But the new American way obviously.
No trial, no criminal.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Craisus,you are on the right track here.Look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richhard Serino.Thank you.Please google as well “Boston Marathon Bomber caught on camera detonating bombs”.It was not Dzhokhar who had the remote control in his hands.People have the right to know the truth.Dzhokhar and his deceised brother were framed and Dzhokhar still is in this situation.Dzhokhar is innocent and I so hope he has the chance for retrial.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803683287 Paul White

You did a fine job. It’s certainly a matter of conjecture how this kid or anybody REALLY feels, but you absolutely captured a moment in the mind of a just-did-something-monumentally-stupid-and-irrevocable-without-really-knowing-why 19-year-old. Been there.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=553345586 Paul Gauthier

I love you Amanda. And I love you for having the courage to aspire to being a whole human being.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Pappas/750711412 Peter Pappas

Palmer had 9 minutes to write a poem and she chose this? Wonder what the reaction of her defenders would be had she written a poem arguing for empathy for, say, an abortion clinic bomber or a KKK member? My hunch, it would have been a lot different. Sad use of “art.”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dungeonmaster-Jim/100002480637891 Dungeonmaster Jim

You don’t know what it is to look down at your legs and see they’re not there.
Jim

LOL! Wow…this is just inane gibberish trying to disguise itself as poetic, but it comes across as so incredibly silly. This has nothing to do with empathy, and I don’t think this, uh…singer(?) has a clue as to real life. Why not write something about the poor little poor that this monster killed or the folks who had legs blown off? Don’t have much empathy for them, huh.
http://twitter.com/Applemask_ Matthew Harris

If Amanda Palmer wasn’t famous on the Internet, no-one would give a flying fuck about this poem.
http://twitter.com/zoso0420 zoso420

My poem for Dzhokhar:
May they beat his balls with a ball-peen hammer.
Hammer
’til his asshole whistles the Star-Spangled Banner
Banner
Iris

I love this.
Samuel

It Saddens me hugely at how muh hurt the commenters want to inflict on an unyet convicted man. The fact of the matter is having seen your brother killed and hiding bloodied in a stun grenade filled boat must have been the sheer essence of terror. Yes he may have done bad things, doens’t mean he has no emotions or is “pure evil” which is too lazy.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Samuel,can I encourage you to look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you.To look into the ugly truth that Dzhokhar was framed and betrayed takes a lot of courage.In there you can read that Dzhokhars own former defense Judy Clarke visited parents of Dzhokhar to admit to them that she is in the know of Dzhokhars innocence.Furthermore parents of Dzhokhar were warned that if they would not refrain from saying that Dzhokhar is innocent his life in Boston would be at risk.
Ken

This is a really powerful poem. I didn’t read this when it came out,
and missed the yelling and gnashing of teeth. But I really connected
with it.

I got to meet Amanda in a truly miserable time in my
life, I had really hit a rough patch, living in Boston. I definitely
felt many of the things that go through the poem. Just listening to
Amanda communicate love for humanity through music and just plain being
got me through it. I don’t know what I would have done. I truly believe
that I would never try to hurt the city that I loved so much or the
people in it. feeling so much betrayal, hurt, and not knowing whether I
was worth existing in life – but because of AFP, I never had to. Because
Amanda writes things that she feels, things like this poem.

And I remember, too, watching a month ago the horror that occurred in
Boston. For the first time in months, I was watching television,
watching this incomprehensible thing happen to this street I knew every
inch of.

I walked that street more than once a week while I was living there. I
remember walking through the bleachers of a night before the Boston
Marathon and the energy there. It’s been a long time since I
was there, but I feel the welling of pain from a city I love so much.

I only bring this up because I don’t understand how this poem is an
apologist missive for Dzjokhar. I keep reading it and I don’t see it. I
know I’m biased because I have the luxury of a month of recovery. It’s
all the voices that Amanda brings up, and these voices are hers, these
voices are ours, and they have validity for being human. And if you
truly embrace all the voices that are humanity, you have to allow a
moment for the voice of that person who committed something truly
inhuman, huddling under a sheet in a boat reflecting that his life is
over. A lot of you, from your posts, can write people off as not being
part of the human race by their actions.

There’s a lot of terrible things in this world – and Amanda tries to reach us through her
words and her music to try to diminish them. I read this poem with the
hope that someone, someone out there, who was a little more desperate,
little more tragically inclined and terrified of themselves will read it
and realize that they are human and everyone they may try to hurt is
human, and no god or ideology saying otherwise is true. And my hope is
that if they had the time to read it, and they won’t go out and hurt
someone else.

Maybe I’m naive, maybe I’m missing the point, but I believe that art is
genuinely good, and flaming, trolling, and the 24 hour news hemorrhage
cause more evil than this poem ever could.
grannyisafatburger

i don’t get it.
yousuck

Ok, I 100% get the point that she is trying to get people to ‘sympathize and empathize’ with this terrorist because in her and a lot of other people’s minds, he is ‘a scared little boy who didn’t know what he was doing’.

You are ignorant and delusional if you believe that. He was 19, not 9. He very well knew that that bomb was going to kill people and injure hundreds more. He knew that in that shootout his brother was injured and he chose to mercilessly run him over and kill him instead of surrendering like the ‘little boy’ he is according to you. He continued to run from police, and HE CONFESSED to doing these horendous acts. He hasn’t yet expressed any sort of remorse for what he has done, and when he was read that the death penalty was an option, he showed no sign of fear or remorse, because he believes he will be ‘sent to paradise and have all of the virgins he wants’.

The bottom line is he was not stupid. He was not mentally ill. He 100% knew what his choices and actions meant. He knew he was going to kill people. And he liked it. If he didn’t he easily could have told his brother no and reported him to the police. But he was brainwashed by him and his religion into truly believing that killing was the right thing to do. And I have no empathy or sympathy for a cold blooded killer. Smarten up people.
- Discord
  
  You put ‘sympathize and empathize’, and ‘scared little boy who didn’t know what he was doing’ into quotation marks, as though you are quoting… anyone. On earth. Really, you’re just making up things she didn’t say, (in fact, she said precisely the opposite) and arguing with that. Hope you’re proud of yourself.
  
  Sorry you’re so irrelevant.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  yousuck,look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev where you can read that former defense Judy Clarke does know to this day that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent.Please look up as well BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Dzhokhar together with his deceised brother was framed to cover up for the higher ups.Dzhokhar was not the author of his “last apology and confession” last year after he was sentenced to death.His former defense Judy Clarke is in the know of Dzhokhars innocence.
aramisathei

Amanda,

Thank you for sharing a piece of yourself with us.

Because of you, I’m learning to leave the garret door open.
nyc

NYC doesn’t want you. Go the fuck away.
Rick

Fearless self expression is a
rare virtue…we were all ready to jump on board once the ship was
built…naysayers and quiet friends alike. Let’s remember Amanda cast
her feelings into a torrent of rage, fear and confusion when few of us
would commit to publishing any original perspective. It was, for most of
us, just easier to use her words and feelings as a launch-pad for our
boisterous, and many times, insensitive comments.

Thank you Amanda for “a writing” that started this dialog…now
forty-five days has passed and all of us are better for the interaction.
We spoke our mind, showed our fears and looked within….we loved,
hated, agreed, and despised you with passion (and occasional
indifference)—but all-in-all, it was great to travel the path from your
mind down to your heart…

As always, best….
Not a narcissist

you used dzhokhar’s name

for publicity of course

don’t think we don’t know
Matthew Tuthill

Write another one when they execute him.
Steafan Dubhuidhe

Those nipping at Amanda Palmer’s heals over this poem merely demonstrate why it needed to be written. There is nothing sacred enough to demand compliant silence. Nothing is taboo enough to ban from art. Tell me, critics, if any of us, the anonymous billions, were to write the same poem, would there be a Tsunami of hate, or we would simply be ignored or dismissed? You are outraged that someone that has gained some fame would express herself freely without constraining herself to the expectations of what is acceptable in art. That is why this poem needed to be written, so that you could show up here while I wave my middle finger at you. Reality is far more offensive than this poem.
- Garpin Blorp
  
  Art, as many things are, are a subjective thing defined not only by the producer but the eye of the beholder as well. If this were not the case, all painted works of art would be masterpieces.
  
  I certainly would not try to oppress someone’s creative process, that doesn’t mean I’m expected not to denigrate that product if in my eye the product is disgusting.
  
  I’m sorry Amanda, you tried, but you failed. If you are looking for true appraisal and appreciation of your “art”, pick a subject that doesn’t raise so many doubts about your mental well being.
  - Lara Ghazal
    
    I read the thread years after the shitstorm. Just wanted to say that I hope you realize after these years that your attitude is pseudo-liberal at best. It starts from putting art between quotation marks and ends at saying “sorry, you failed”. Maybe you reread the poem after years and then ask yourself what was actually upsetting you, because it is obvious that it wasn´t the poem.
Coinoperatedboy

Amanda, thank you for the fresh perspective. It may not be what was really going on in this boy’s head; it may be EXACTLY what was going on in his head. The point is that he is a human being and, IF guilty, however messed up he may be, he might still have been my brother or my friend. He might have been me. And that is what I take away from your poem. Thanks for sharing!
- smartalek
  
  “He might have been me”
  
  Okay, see, now, that’s where you lose me.
  I cannot envision — even with major chemical assistance — ANY conceivable circumstances in which I’d ever come to the conclusion, “Y’know, blowing up random citizens of some country, including CHILDREN, is the right thing to do here. Yeah, let’s blow some people up, possibly kids; that’ll accomplish something useful. Let’s go do that.”
  My first and last initials, irl, are A.F., and I live in the northeast.
  And if you know me irl, please just stay far the fuck away from me for the rest of our lives, okay?
  No explanations, no good-byes, just go away and never cross paths with me again. Thank you.
Jennifer Louise Lee

I wish I could make you feel how deeply this resonated with my soul, Amanda.
I wish I could express how effortlessly I understood just what you were saying.
And dear gods, I wish I could thank you for the gift of knowing I’m not the only one. <3
Coin Operated Black Girl

How deep. Snicker.
Thomas Leo McGrath

I know this was written a long time ago, but now that some time has passed, I just wanted to say that I liked it. I wont go on about what I think it means or doesn’t mean or who it is for. I just wanted to say that I really hope that there are more people like you in the world than it appears there are. You have a lovely soul.
Arthur

I find this poem to be obnoxious for the simple reason that she’s speaking for somebody else and putting words in his mouth. Regardless of whether you think we should try to sympathize with or understand a person who has committed an atrocity, in any case isn’t it just juvenile and unhelpful to purposefully make up stories and attribute them to real people? I’d personally be furious if this kind of poem was written by a stranger on my behalf, even if I was imprisoned and unable to speak for myself, for a crime of conscience that Amnesty International could get behind, and somebody was writing it to support my cause.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  You are very right,Dzhokhar could never tell his side of the story.Look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.TY!I hope his case will be deemed a huge misscarriage of justice.His last “confession and apology” was shoved down Dzhokhars throat with force (coercen) from his own defense.He was not the author of such.
Karissa

I think you’re describing the slow fade to desensitization. and maybe if we stopped to meet these crazy people and loved them. then we would help them realize how fucked up they were, or lift them, before it got worse or theyre dead, and can’t come to the realization. or others are dead because of them
Jessica Hardin

Amanda, this is a beautiful poem. It is beautiful writing, and what everyone thinks is insignificant to the passion and thought you put into this piece of art. They can’t take that away from you.
Joshua Paul Hawkins

I’m sorry but this was bloody brilliant. Since when is stating simple truths a fucking act of sympathy? Grow some balls people.
Nisha Mei

People like to defend Freedom of Speech until someone uses it to say something they don’t want to hear. Poetry is poetry and this is a good poem. Only someone who is too angry to use common sense would think it is ‘supporting terrorism’. Your true fans know you better than that. That isn’t what this is about, but people like to take issue with everything. As sensitive as the subject is, it’s clear you had no ill intention. Always speak your mind and do so with a brave and open heart. Well done, Amanda.
- PharrellsHat69Boner
  
  actually the poem is awful, it is a boring insipid love letter to a child murderer. Nobody is saying Palmer isn’t free to write such a bland piece of slop, quite the opposite. We are also free to call her out for how insanely bad it is.
  - valentina
    
    wow… i think there’s something really wrong with this world when the words “boring” and “insipid” can be read in the same phrase where the words “child” and “muderer” also are… sad
  - smartalek
    
    Reading comprehension: it’s a thing.
    Home-schooled, were you?
    If you set out to convince us that the liberal stereotype of conservatives as uneducated / ignorant / unintelligent is actually accurate, then, hey, congratulations: mission accomplished, dude — well done, you.
    To be as clear and explicit as I can possibly be, since you appear to have… challenges… with your cognition:
    This isn’t any “love letter.”
    It’s a condemnation.
    Of course, since it’s a bit longer, more subtle, and more discursive than “FUCK YOU, NOW YOU GONNA DIE, RAGHEAD MOTHERFUCKER!!1!,” that may not be so easy for you to recognize.
    If you have any further problems with your reading comp, give a yell; always happy to help out the slower among us.
    - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CYLK07K/?tag=dambrsbl-20 Read_ThFlyingSaucrsAreVryVryRl
      
      Ad hominem is a fallacy. The uninspired and dull poem is indeed just what it sounds like, sympathy for killers.
Eat shit

This is a pretty shitty poem.
Jaybird

Good poem bad title
http://www.openeyesvideo.com/ Glenn C. Koenig

I just read this poem, now over a year later. Amanda, I’m glad you wrote it! I just read a few comments, below.

I’m glad someone else (you) is thinking about this guy as a human being. Sadly, I think it’s easy for many folks to just label someone suspected of a horrendous crime as ‘a monster.’ I don’t see it that way. I see people, most of the time, who get wrapped up in a vortex of messages, feelings, questions answered by somebody else in a certain way, convinced of things, entering a mental space that most of us have never imagined.

I see every person who has ever shot up a shopping mall and then killed themselves as a person hopelessly overwhelmed by something, who is so angry, so furious inside, that in the end they become the ultimate nihilist – believing that the world is so terrible and horrible and worthless that both it and they themselves should be wiped out.

There are days when I think most of us have had such a bad time that we say things that later, we realize were a bit extreme. But we just had to say them, to blow off some steam. A day or so later, we see life in more balance, as having good as well as bad. We reached that low point then, but now, we’re in a better place. But once in awhile, a person goes much, much further than that. Your and my ‘bad day’ is to them a ‘bad life’ that is so bad, they go into the abyss of despair and want to destroy everybody and everything, including themselves.

No, I don’t think this is exactly the case with Dzhokhar. But what I’m trying to say is that the line between ‘a monster’ and ‘everybody else’ is not so distinct as we might wish it to be. I’m just glad that the vast majority of us never reach that abyss of despair. That the person who sets a bomb or starts firing with an automatic weapon is extremely rare, at least here in the USA.

If anything our job is to get familiar with what it really means to be human, to realize that, beyond extreme mental illness, we’re all very complex, powerful (yes, powerful!) and sometimes have thoughts and feelings we’d rather not have. I think of Stanley Milgram and Phillip Zimbardo, both of whom recognized this. We can learn a lot, I think, by understanding what they have done and shown.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you.Dzhokhar was and still is framed.His last “confession and apology” was shoved down his throat with force from his own defense.Dzhokhar never had a fair trial.
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    “Dzhokhar was and still is framed”
    
    No shit! By whom?
    The Mossad?
    The CIA?
    The Illuminati?
    Obummer?
    All of the above?
    Was 4/15 another “false flag” operation, like 9/11 and/or the Newtown massacre?
    Please enlighten all of us who aren’t so privileged to be as “woke” as you.
    But about your “Paul Craig Roberts” — he said that the Boston lockdown and “shelter in place” orders were a prequel to the imposition of martial law. It’s been 4 1/2 years since then — see any martial law ’round here?
    You’re going to have to do much better than that.
    - Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
      
      Did you actually read the reports on Paul Craig Roberts Website under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev? There are too many incidents who yes do point to Dzhokhar Tsarnaevs innocence! Oh and by the way the Las Vegas Shooting incident is a false flag Event as well,They are more and more in common as you might think.Yes all the above are involved in this huge cover up! The United States are under martial law already and unlike you many people around you do realize this very fact! Just because you do not experience yet police who go from door to door to Arrest people does not mean the police state is not already in place! I really am hoping that you do wake up!
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Well, this is awkward.
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The sentiment may be love for the hurting other, which is fine. The mechanics of the poem, though. Well…
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i didn’t read it with some dzjokhar in mind. i read it in total examination of this amanda palmer chick. want the road map to how i found out about your existence, amanda?

interesting human. lexington. that’s where my brother grew up. i’m his sister, from everett. you and i were born in the same year. heaven must be missing an angel (they mean angel, she was born in ’76, too).

i like the “you don’t know” ness of your poem here. other than that, for the most part, i have no idea what you’re saying so .. you win.
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I’m really glad you wrote this. who cares if this guy is like this or not. there’s never a good reason or excuse for this kind of tragedy but it exists whether we want it to or not. and trying to understand it holds more courage and value to me than more hatred. Death is a transformation and everyone should get a chance to live out their full life, but it’s not always the case sadly. If we can learn and understand each other more, maybe that’s a way to make change.
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I love the line about wondering how he so obliviously fell into this trap. The Boston bombing is the most successful and generally believed frame job of all time (next to the framing of Mumia)
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Brooke,in framing job you do mean the framing of the Tsarnaev brothers am I right?Yes Dzhokhar fell into this trap you can say this out loud.People have the right to know the truth.Look up Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you.The last “confession and apology” was shoved down Dzhokhars throat.He was not the author of it.You can read it up that his former defense Judy Clarke worked for the prosecution did never defend Dzhokhar as it should have been but betrayed him completely.Judy Clarke made visits to parents of Dzhokhar to warn them that if they would not refrain from saying in public that Dzhokhar is innocent his life in Boston is at risk.She furthermore bluntly admitted to parents of Dzhokhar that she is in the know of Dzhokhars and his deceised brothers innocence.
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Just reading it now, I think it’s a very, very good poem, ( especially for one written in 9 minutes). I have no clue how I would have felt had I read it two years ago, in the midst of the bombing and it’s aftermath. Really only the title is off-putting. And maybe a poem’s title should be; it should grab you, force you to read the actual poem, than you can react to that. Idk, I liked it.
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Gorgeous!!! The path to recovery&healing is being able to humanize “monsters” & not just blame & victimize them back. An eye for an eye does not work here…. it leaves everyone blind…. xo
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Because we are all human. Because some people are mostly lost and others are mostly losing. Because some of us humans take extreme action and other take extreme vocalization.

I support you and I hope you feel those vibes reaching you all the way from Southern California.
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This poem has gotten a lot of hate. Of course, people are free to think of it as they will, and if it angers people, then maybe it has made others question or think. I’m not saying that I in any way support the actions of the Tsarnaevs. Duh. I’m from Boston, I’ve lived there my whole life. I have friends who lost family in the bombings. At the same time, I am angry and upset by the courts’ decisions to give Dzhokhar the death sentence. I think this poem captures an interesting perspective on even deeply disturbed individuals who’ve committed horrible wrongs. Thank you Amanda. I’m glad I discovered this poem.
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Sasasaam,please read the two reports of Paul Craig Roberts under Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and BMB plan 2008 and Richard Serino.Thank you very much.Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent.He is not responsible for the crimes he is accused of.His last “apology and confession ” last year he has made after Dzhokhar was sentenced to death was shoved down his throat by his own defense.Judy Clarke admitted to parents of Dzhokhar that she is in the know of the innocence of him and his deseiced brother.You can read this on Paul Craig Roberts two reports.A great uncle to Dzhokhar , Dzhamaly Tsarnaev has stated in his Affidavit that FBI came to visit him (disguised as tourists) and family members of Dzhokhar to bluntly admit to him and them that the public defenders office in Boston is in the know of Dzhokhars innocence.The public was lied to and the lies still do continue -Movie “Patriots day”.The public has the right to know the truth.
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That poem is so bad that he deserves it.

But I’m sure the Poetess doesn’t think of it as bad(or Bomb Evil)

But I kinda have a feeling that she wouldn’t or hasn’t done the same for say
Dylan Roof

awwww Poor Dylan, Oh well I’m sure he had a hard enough life to get to this point without needing a eye ball popping WTF was that from Ms. Pampers anyway.
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https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73280e0c343ac646785658d9a14d3baea00c7029a9b77cfc786d2a5483f79fb8.jpg Now that the dust has settled maybe the world will see Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent
Here is a Summary of some of the support groups findings…. on all charges He didn’t plant Bombs He didn’t Murder Sean Collier and attempted murder of Law enforcement. It was all set up to appear as if he did it by powers in a …. Shadow Govt …..(Google it)
Take a few moments to see things without a smoke screen Jtlyk I am not some fan girl I am 65 years old,French Canadian Mohawk…. white male single… Veteran US Army 1972…… I am retired Disabled Breathing promblems,….. So I had the time to dig into this event every day for hours for 3+ years to plce the pieces to see the puzzle and here along with others findings is th REAL TRUTH. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15NyaekKdptWk_X5o7SuvCPZYy_ToSp1w6mWRYX1czng/edit#slide=id.g133ae7218c_2_7

Also.. Read here
https://sites.google.com/site/thefactsofthebbostonbombing/black-ops-did-it/they-cut-the-2nd-backpack-out

He was coerced to say he did it all …. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74482aead8ba07ba759f7ccc7d51c92f6d517c3716cd2dba205115cabfbb3750.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74482aead8ba07ba759f7ccc7d51c92f6d517c3716cd2dba205115cabfbb3750.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab624a8b6d933c51eed93ee2123a3c5fefcdc77460b948f3da5394eb73ed25bf.jpg
- Elisabeth Ritter-Blaser
  
  Thank you Tom Fontaine, for posting this on here.
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      Gonna tell us all about the pedophiles in Hillary’s pizza parlor basement (the one that doesn’t exist) next?
      Or are you gonna save that one for after the “Newtown massacre was false-flag, to grab all our gunz” bit?
      Or should we go straight to the main dish, and dispense with all these little appetizers — 9/11 Troof!?
      Seek help, before the damage becomes irreversible.
      Obamacare is still hanging on (for the moment), so you can afford it, no matter how financially useless you are.
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      Try to remember that, ok?
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